Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-22 Thread Arnulf Christl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO: [...] I am probably too vector oriented to understand the problems involved here but my experience is that there should be no issue if you have your services configured all right. I don't agree. But then my requirements are for spatial data that covers a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-22 Thread Arnulf Christl
Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing') IMO: Paul, On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What it comes down to is what is appropriate for your use case. Indeed! However, there seem to be vanishingly few use cases

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-22 Thread Tim Bowden
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 10:49 +0900, Tim Bowden wrote: Bruce, Note: I've never tried this, and I'm making it up as I go. Others more informed than me may well kill the idea (Paul?). Ok, kill this one. Tried it and it doesn't work. Tim ___ Discuss

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-21 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Hi Tyler, Thanks for the reply. Am I correct in believing that the two things people desire with images in an RDB, is having an abstract 1) storage framework (tables) and 2) a common access language (SQL) for managing the framework. You could have the most complex storage

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-21 Thread Arnulf Christl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO: Hi Tyler, Thanks for the reply. Am I correct in believing that the two things people desire with images in an RDB, is having an abstract 1) storage framework (tables) and 2) a common access language (SQL) for managing the framework. You could have the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-21 Thread Paul Ramsey
All too often, the benefits touted for raster-in-database have nothing to do with the database, and everything to do with the data preparation tools that the vendor is including with their raster-in- database solution. To store rasters in a database, you need a set of tools that will (a)

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-21 Thread Tim Bowden
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 16:24 -0800, Paul Ramsey wrote: On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What it comes down to is what is appropriate for your use case. Indeed! However, there seem to be vanishingly few use cases for which raster-in-database is actually the more

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-21 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Paul, On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What it comes down to is what is appropriate for your use case. Indeed! However, there seem to be vanishingly few use cases for which raster-in-database is actually the more appropriate solution. ;-) I beg to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-21 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Tim, Would you like to expand on this? Bruce Completely off the wall thought, but what about using git? Tim Notice: This email and any attachments may contain information that is personal, confidential, legally privileged and/or copyright.No part of it should be

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-21 Thread Randy George
To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing') IMO: Paul, On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What it comes down to is what is appropriate for your use case. Indeed! However, there seem

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-21 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO 12 million records is teensy. Stuff it into PostGIS. It's the billion- point LIDAR sets that leave me queasy, but I can't begin to think of a reasonable architecture for that without learning more about how the points are actually USED, which I really am not clear on at the moment.

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-20 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Hi Randy, Ivan and Arnulf, I seem to have spawned another thread, moving away from my original post and Randy's excellent response. Sorry. I've renamed this thread accordingly. more below... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/02/2008 02:38:13 AM: Hi Ivan and Bruce, I am curious

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-20 Thread Chris Holmes
- When you consider the complexities that Google must be facing with GE in trying to manage 256x256k tiles of imagery over the entire world, at multiple pyramid layers and with constant revision of imagery, you can soon see that a file based approach would lead to a major headache. He he, I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Image Management in an RDBMS...(was OS Spatial environment 'sizing')

2008-02-20 Thread Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
On 20-Feb-08, at 4:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - When you consider the complexities that Google must be facing with GE in trying to manage 256x256k tiles of imagery over the entire world, at multiple pyramid layers and with constant revision of imagery, you can soon see that a file