Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS Performance Shootout at FOSS4G 2009

2009-10-09 Thread Bob Basques

All,

Is there a list of the tests administered?   I would be interested in 
the rendering speed of differently sized images and where the sweet spot 
is for a particular engine in size vs rendering speed.  I did find the 
description of source data.  Also any thing related to reprojection of 
rasters on the fly?


Are the Live Benchmarks links going to be the same for the duration of 
the competition?


thanks

bobb


Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:

Sydney, Australia. 5 October 2009. http://2009.foss4g.org

GeoServer, MapServer, and ArcGIS Server will be competing for the
title of Fastest Web Map Server (WMS) at the FOSS4G 2009 conference
at the end of October. The Web Mapping Performance Shoot-out compares
Web Map Servers in a variety of real world use cases.

This third installment of the FOSS4G shoot-out looks to be even more
exciting with the introduction of a team from ESRI. ESRI supports
interoperability with the OSGeo and open source community says Satish
Sankaran, PhD., ESRI Product Manager for Interoperability,  and, as
such, are happy to participate in the OSGEO demonstration-'shootout'
at FOSS4G. We are also participating in the OGC's Climate Change
Integration Plugfest at FOSS4G, and with our colleagues from 52North
who will be in the technical exhibits area.

The performance shoot-out will see GeoServer, MapServer, and ArcGIS
Server compared in terms of how long they take to generate a map
image, from a common set of spatial data. The data formats used will
be shapefile, geotiff, ECW, PostgreSQL/PostGIS, Oracle Spatial, and
SDE on Oracle. Benchmarking scripts will be executed on a common
platform running Red Hat Linux.

GeoServer will be represented by Andrea Aime (OpenGeo) and Simone
Giannecchini (GeoSolutions). With the rapid expansion of GeoServer's
capabilities each year, these benchmarking exercises are an excellent
forum for us to test it in new and challenging ways, said Chris
Holmes, Managing Director of OpenGeo and founder of the GeoServer
project.

One of the most important 'rules of engagement' for each Web server
team is that all parties must contribute any changes that they make to
their software for this exercise, back to their community. As
explained by Steve Lime, founder of Mapserver, Past benchmarking
presentations have brought about many improvements in the servers,
such as MapServer's improvements in large shapefile indexing, raster
read optimization, and labeling placement. The MapServer Project
Steering Committee is excited to help with this presentation again.
MapServer will be represented by Daniel Morissette (Mapgears), Jeff
McKenna (Gateway Geomatics), and Frank Warmerdam.

For more information about the Web mapping performance shootout, see
the wiki at: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Benchmarking_2009, or follow
along discussions in the benchmarking mailing list at:
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/benchmarking.

== About FOSS4G ==

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2009. FOSS4G offers presentations, workshops, demos, an install-fest,
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Policy Makers, Sponsors and Geospatial Professionals and includes the
latest geospatial applications, standards, government programs,
business processes and case studies. Topics include mobile platforms,
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Integration of Open Source and Proprietary Software and more.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS Performance Shootout at FOSS4G 2009

2009-10-09 Thread Frank Warmerdam

Bob Basques wrote:

All,

Is there a list of the tests administered? 


Bob,

There will be.

 I would be interested in 
the rendering speed of differently sized images and where the sweet spot 
is for a particular engine in size vs rendering speed. 


I do not believe we are analysing large vs. small images.  We have
produced a randomly generated request sequence with a mix of sizes
intended to represent a common workload.

  I did find the
description of source data.  Also any thing related to reprojection of 
rasters on the fly?


No, not this year.

Are the Live Benchmarks links going to be the same for the duration of 
the competition?


I'm not sure what links you mean, but the wiki page will continue to exist
and be updated.  I would note we are trying to keep the final results
quiet so there will be a little drama at the presentation.

Best regards,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS Performance Shootout at FOSS4G 2009

2009-10-09 Thread Bob Basques

Ok, ok,

No problem.  It can wait till afterwards.  Just a thought.

bobb



Andrea Aime wrote:

Bob Basques ha scritto:

All,

The reason i asked about the stability of the WMS links in the wiki, 
was I was thinking about setting up a GeoMoose interface for the WMS 
calls for each layer, combining that with Firebug would give some 
good real (world network speed) information metrics for users, either 
during and/or after the compitition, BTW, how much/many of the 
services will stay inplace after the fact?  Might be useful during 
the thing as well.


The network connection to those servers is capped to something like
30-50KBytes/s, you won't get anything out of that.
Also please don't run any sequence of tests over them since:
- if anybody is running test benchmarks you'll skew the results
- our ssh consoles will be mostly stuck as you make requests since
  you'll be eating away all bandwidth

Please people, be patient until the conference is done

Cheers
Andrea



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS Performance Shootout at FOSS4G 2009

2009-10-09 Thread Jeff McKenna

Bob Basques wrote:

All,

The reason i asked about the stability of the WMS links in the wiki, was 
I was thinking about setting up a GeoMoose interface for the WMS calls 
for each layer, combining that with Firebug would give some good real 
(world network speed) information metrics for users, either during 
and/or after the compitition, BTW, how much/many of the services will 
stay inplace after the fact?  Might be useful during the thing as well.


bobb


Bob,

I'm glad you responded.  What I forgot to mention is that as we perform 
tests, we shut down the other mapping servers (right now I believe Arc 
Server is being tweaked so Apache/MapServer and GeoServer are down). 
Also, if you start using those links for your own tests then our numbers 
will be off (if you hit MapServer while we benchmark, then GeoServer and 
ArcServer numbers will not be comparable).



-jeff


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[OSGeo-Discuss] Mind Map - Open Source Spatial Projects

2009-10-09 Thread Bruce Bannerman
I have been developing a Mind Map for a number of years, showing various
Open Source spatial projects, with a summary of project features and links
to project urls.

It should help as an aide-memoire for Open Source spatial projects.

I've released this under a Creative Commons license with the source in the
OSGeo subversion repository.



Details are at:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Bruce.bannerman


The information in the mind map is a little dated. Perhaps a few of us can
collaborate to maintain it.


Thanks to Tyler for his help in getting this into subversion.



Bruce Bannerman
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