Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] help with geotifcp usage

[P Kishor]

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Homan, Thomas  wrote:
> It's been a bit since I scripted anything in bash and I don't have anything 
> fired up at the moment. You'll have to fill in the details on the scripting 
> but something like this should be close to working
> #
> FILES = /path/to/files/*.tif
> For f in $FILES
> Do
>  Echo "Processing $f..."
>  Geotifcp -g a.tif ${f%.*} ${f%.*}.newtif
> Done
>
> Once the processing is done delete the *.tif and then mv the *.newtif to 
> *.tif. These steps could be handled inside the do but for a one-off process a 
> little manual review of results before a delete works well for me.


Thanks Thomas. I was hoping geotifcp itself could do this. Seems like
not so. Well, no big deal -- Perl to the rescue, as all of my app is
in Perl anyway.


>
> Just a random thought
>
> T
>
> -Original Message-
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of P Kishor
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:07 PM
> To: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] help with geotifcp usage
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:20 PM, P Kishor  wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Bob Basques  
>> wrote:
>>>  Hmm, the help file doesn't say much does it.  Did you try using a thrid
>>> file name on the end instead of b.tif (again)?
>>>
>>
>> Seems like the following works
>>
>>    geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif c.tif
>>
>> creating an extra file c.tif. What a shame. Now, to figure out if I
>> can apply this blessed proj info to 100 files in one shot or not, and
>> then delete 100 old files.
>>
>> Also, I wish these darned commands were named consistently. When I see
>> `geotifcp` I think of its analog as `geotifls`, and when I see
>> `listgeo` I think of its analog as `copygeo`. What a shame its not so.
>>
>>
>>
>>> bobb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2010 4:07 PM, P Kishor wrote:

 I have a file a.tif with correct proj info embedded in it. I have
 another file b.tif with no proj info in it. I want to take the proj
 info within a.tif and embed it into b.tif. When I try the following --

 geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif b.tif

 my b.tif goes from around 321K to 8 bytes. Obviously that is no good,
 but I can't, for the life me, intuit what the usage would be.

 Corollary -- I have about a 100 target tifs... b_1.tif, b_2.tif, and
 so on. I would really like to embed the proj info from a.tif into all
 of the b_?.tif so what would that usage be?


>>>
>
>
>
>
> A little more on geotifcp. It doesn't really have an explicit
> usage/help switch, but if I type just the command, I get the usage
> description. There is a typo in it, however
>
>    $geotifcp
>    usage: gtiffcp [options] input... output
>
> huh! What the heck is `gtiffcp` ?
>
>    $gtiffcp
>    -bash: gtiffcp: command not found
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Local chapter update

[Charlie Schweik]

 On 9/15/2010 8:06 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote:

Hi all,
One common question I heard while at FOSS4G was:
  "where can our local chapter tell the world what we are doing?"

One is in the annual report, but another is by posting to this 
"discuss" list - it is also a great way to reach many people.  It is 
always inspiring for others to hear/see what you are doing in your 
region/language.  I encourage you to share your stories, ideas and 
projects on this list for those chapters who would like to.
A third way, if it is at all education-related, please consider 
contributing local chapter education material through the educational 
inventory system so other local groups can find it [1].


Cheers
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Best wishes,
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Local chapter update

[Tyler Mitchell]

Hi all, 
One common question I heard while at FOSS4G was: 
  "where can our local chapter tell the world what we are doing?"

One is in the annual report, but another is by posting to this "discuss" list - 
it is also a great way to reach many people.  It is always inspiring for others 
to hear/see what you are doing in your region/language.  I encourage you to 
share your stories, ideas and projects on this list for those chapters who 
would like to.

Best wishes,
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] help with geotifcp usage

[Homan, Thomas]

It's been a bit since I scripted anything in bash and I don't have anything 
fired up at the moment. You'll have to fill in the details on the scripting but 
something like this should be close to working
#
FILES = /path/to/files/*.tif
For f in $FILES
Do
  Echo "Processing $f..."
  Geotifcp -g a.tif ${f%.*} ${f%.*}.newtif
Done

Once the processing is done delete the *.tif and then mv the *.newtif to *.tif. 
These steps could be handled inside the do but for a one-off process a little 
manual review of results before a delete works well for me.

Just a random thought

T

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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] help with geotifcp usage

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:20 PM, P Kishor  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Bob Basques  
> wrote:
>>  Hmm, the help file doesn't say much does it.  Did you try using a thrid
>> file name on the end instead of b.tif (again)?
>>
>
> Seems like the following works
>
>    geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif c.tif
>
> creating an extra file c.tif. What a shame. Now, to figure out if I
> can apply this blessed proj info to 100 files in one shot or not, and
> then delete 100 old files.
>
> Also, I wish these darned commands were named consistently. When I see
> `geotifcp` I think of its analog as `geotifls`, and when I see
> `listgeo` I think of its analog as `copygeo`. What a shame its not so.
>
>
>
>> bobb
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/15/2010 4:07 PM, P Kishor wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a file a.tif with correct proj info embedded in it. I have
>>> another file b.tif with no proj info in it. I want to take the proj
>>> info within a.tif and embed it into b.tif. When I try the following --
>>>
>>> geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif b.tif
>>>
>>> my b.tif goes from around 321K to 8 bytes. Obviously that is no good,
>>> but I can't, for the life me, intuit what the usage would be.
>>>
>>> Corollary -- I have about a 100 target tifs... b_1.tif, b_2.tif, and
>>> so on. I would really like to embed the proj info from a.tif into all
>>> of the b_?.tif so what would that usage be?
>>>
>>>
>>




A little more on geotifcp. It doesn't really have an explicit
usage/help switch, but if I type just the command, I get the usage
description. There is a typo in it, however

$geotifcp
usage: gtiffcp [options] input... output

huh! What the heck is `gtiffcp` ?

$gtiffcp
-bash: gtiffcp: command not found

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] help with geotifcp usage

[P Kishor]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:20 PM, P Kishor  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Bob Basques  
> wrote:
>>  Hmm, the help file doesn't say much does it.  Did you try using a thrid
>> file name on the end instead of b.tif (again)?
>>
>
> Seems like the following works
>
>    geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif c.tif
>
> creating an extra file c.tif. What a shame. Now, to figure out if I
> can apply this blessed proj info to 100 files in one shot or not, and
> then delete 100 old files.
>
> Also, I wish these darned commands were named consistently. When I see
> `geotifcp` I think of its analog as `geotifls`, and when I see
> `listgeo` I think of its analog as `copygeo`. What a shame its not so.
>
>
>
>> bobb
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/15/2010 4:07 PM, P Kishor wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a file a.tif with correct proj info embedded in it. I have
>>> another file b.tif with no proj info in it. I want to take the proj
>>> info within a.tif and embed it into b.tif. When I try the following --
>>>
>>> geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif b.tif
>>>
>>> my b.tif goes from around 321K to 8 bytes. Obviously that is no good,
>>> but I can't, for the life me, intuit what the usage would be.
>>>
>>> Corollary -- I have about a 100 target tifs... b_1.tif, b_2.tif, and
>>> so on. I would really like to embed the proj info from a.tif into all
>>> of the b_?.tif so what would that usage be?
>>>
>>>
>>




A little more on geotifcp. It doesn't really have an explicit
usage/help switch, but if I type just the command, I get the usage
description. There is a typo in it, however

$geotifcp
usage: gtiffcp [options] input... output

huh! What the heck is `gtiffcp` ?

$gtiffcp
-bash: gtiffcp: command not found

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] help with geotifcp usage

[P Kishor]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Bob Basques  wrote:
>  Hmm, the help file doesn't say much does it.  Did you try using a thrid
> file name on the end instead of b.tif (again)?
>

Seems like the following works

geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif c.tif

creating an extra file c.tif. What a shame. Now, to figure out if I
can apply this blessed proj info to 100 files in one shot or not, and
then delete 100 old files.

Also, I wish these darned commands were named consistently. When I see
`geotifcp` I think of its analog as `geotifls`, and when I see
`listgeo` I think of its analog as `copygeo`. What a shame its not so.



> bobb
>
>
>
> On 9/15/2010 4:07 PM, P Kishor wrote:
>>
>> I have a file a.tif with correct proj info embedded in it. I have
>> another file b.tif with no proj info in it. I want to take the proj
>> info within a.tif and embed it into b.tif. When I try the following --
>>
>> geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif b.tif
>>
>> my b.tif goes from around 321K to 8 bytes. Obviously that is no good,
>> but I can't, for the life me, intuit what the usage would be.
>>
>> Corollary -- I have about a 100 target tifs... b_1.tif, b_2.tif, and
>> so on. I would really like to embed the proj info from a.tif into all
>> of the b_?.tif so what would that usage be?
>>
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] help with geotifcp usage

[Bob Basques]

 Hmm, the help file doesn't say much does it.  Did you try using a thrid file 
name on the end instead of b.tif (again)?

bobb



On 9/15/2010 4:07 PM, P Kishor wrote:

I have a file a.tif with correct proj info embedded in it. I have
another file b.tif with no proj info in it. I want to take the proj
info within a.tif and embed it into b.tif. When I try the following --

geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif b.tif

my b.tif goes from around 321K to 8 bytes. Obviously that is no good,
but I can't, for the life me, intuit what the usage would be.

Corollary -- I have about a 100 target tifs... b_1.tif, b_2.tif, and
so on. I would really like to embed the proj info from a.tif into all
of the b_?.tif so what would that usage be?




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[OSGeo-Discuss] help with geotifcp usage

[P Kishor]

I have a file a.tif with correct proj info embedded in it. I have
another file b.tif with no proj info in it. I want to take the proj
info within a.tif and embed it into b.tif. When I try the following --

geotifcp -g a.tif b.tif b.tif

my b.tif goes from around 321K to 8 bytes. Obviously that is no good,
but I can't, for the life me, intuit what the usage would be.

Corollary -- I have about a 100 target tifs... b_1.tif, b_2.tif, and
so on. I would really like to embed the proj info from a.tif into all
of the b_?.tif so what would that usage be?


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly

[Seven (aka Arnulf)]

On 09/15/2010 08:23 PM, strk wrote:

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 06:38:22PM +0900, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:


g) Was not particularly amused by keynote speaker putting out
his cap and a great guy running to the stage to put coins.


Now _this_ is something I'd have loved to be there to see.
@guy : how much did you raise ?

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€ 6.50 which is quite a lot more than the common 2 Ct so I's say it was 
a success.


Sorry if I offended anybody with this "performance". I acted on the spur 
of the moment inspired by the performers on Rambla who only move if 
somebody puts money in their hat. It was supposed to be a funny way of 
showing how money makes the world go round and not intended to humiliate 
anyone or depreciate volunteers' work.



At the Board of Director meeting we had a more serious dialog about this 
topic. We hope to identify "products" that OSGeo might "sell" to 
sponsors in order to get funding. Or extend our sponsorship program with 
a paid membership for institutions who cannot sponsor. All of this must 
not interfere with the business of OSGeo members and their companies and 
neither will OSGeo allow paying members to meddle with the mission. This 
reduces the potential number of "products" to "sell" considerably. 
Constructive ideas are welcome. Or better even, more sponsors.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly

[Seven (aka Arnulf)]

Venka,
thanks for the feedback. Ideally you would also add this to the Lessosn 
Learned page in the Wiki [1] to be considered at the next conference.


Conference Committee,
it would be great to compile all our experience into a comprehensive 
conference manual. We did this for FOSSGIS in Germany and it helps the 
local teams a lot in running a conference. There already is a lot in the 
Wiki but it is all over the place. Maybe one starting page with a list 
of links would already be a good start. Anybody interested in taking a 
lead?


Best regards,
Arnulf

[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2010_Lessons_Learned


On 09/15/2010 11:38 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:

Hi All,

Back to work after four weeks on the road
with the ZOO-Team.

Enjoyed being at FOSS4G2010. As usual there
many good things, few bad things at least
one ugly incident (for the ZOO-Team).

About the good things, i will not spend too
much time as it is obvious to all. Just to
mention that it was wonderful to meet many
of you folks and learn new things.

Few bad things that I will elaborate more below;

a) Difficulty in meet people since we were all spread
out and there was not much info about common meeting
points
b) No "Practical Guide"
c) No ice-breaker
d) Had to pay for FOSS4G2010 T-Shirt
e) Lunch at least on the first day was a sea of people and
great difficulty in getting to the food. Choose to grab
a sandwich nearby coffee shop
f) Having poster session in lunch-time and having authors
being present in front of their posters to answer questions.
g) Was not particularly amused by keynote speaker putting out
his cap and a great guy running to the stage to put coins.
Must think of better gimmicks to get money flowing into OSGeo.
h) AGM should be planned well in advance. The idea of canceling
Local Chapter Reports and Committee reports was not a good one
i) Some kind of OSGeo-Nostalgia talk with ex-board director was
missing
j) seated tables at Gala Dinner. Would have been better like a buffet
with people able to mingle.
k) Could not see many students. Also, suggestions for best student
paper and poster award that I have been talking about since long
is not yet considered.
k) Bad also that I forget some other points to be listed here.

As for the ugly incident, we had to miss the AGM as
our car was towed away by the police for a minor parking
violation.

Hope to see some of you folks in some other parts
of the world when we will have more of the good,
few of the bad and none of the ugly.

Cheers

Venka

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly

[Martin Landa]

Hi,

2010/9/15 Venkatesh Raghavan :
> d) Had to pay for FOSS4G2010 T-Shirt

and please don't dry your T-shirt. Otherwise you will get nice black
T-shirt without any logo as me ;-)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly

[strk]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 06:38:22PM +0900, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:

> g) Was not particularly amused by keynote speaker putting out
>his cap and a great guy running to the stage to put coins.

Now _this_ is something I'd have loved to be there to see.
@guy : how much did you raise ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS and layer stacking.

[Bob Basques]

 Well I did see that "Opaque" param in there.   It's better than nothing I 
guess.

It's looking like it's up to the client to keep track of such things, at least other than foreground/background hints 
from the opaque setting.


Thanks all.

bobb




On 9/15/2010 8:59 AM, Ian Turton wrote:

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bob Basques
  wrote:

All,

does anyone know if there is a layer hierarchy setting in the WMS service,
which layers are on top of which layers (Z value=)?


There is an "opaque" hint in the capabilities document that suggests
that the layer should be a base layer. Other than that the layers are
just drawn in the order the client requests them and there is no
implied ordering from the capabilities file. For example GeoServer
returns the layers in alphabetical order by namespace then layer name.

Ian


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Java library that can read GML file then port to Java classes

[Justin Deoliveira]

In general only the simplest profiles are gml are handled, more or less
simple features level 0. I don't think this schema falls into that category
so while geotools could parse it I don't think you would get exactly what
you expect. I suggest asking on the geotools user lists, the folks that do
complex application schema support should be able to help.

-Justin

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:13 AM, eros  wrote:

>
> Can support the below gml/schema files?
>
> xsd files:
> http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/Ksj_Common.xsd
> Ksj_Common.xsd
>
> http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/KsjAppSchema-A02_b-v1_0.xsd
> KsjAppSchema-A02_b-v1_0.xsd
>
> gml file:
> http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/A02-60M-13-b-5339.xml
> A02-60M-13-b-5339.xml
>
> Please take a look with the files.
> thanks a lot.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly

[Jochen Topf]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:31:43AM -0400, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
> > a) Difficulty in meet people since we were all spread
> > out and there was not much info about common meeting
> > points
> 
> Not really sure what you mean about this. I mean, we
> were all in the conference center; the OSGeo Booth
> was a reasonably easy to find meeting space, etc. On
> each evening, I successfully gathered a crowd of 20+
> for dinner, thanks to having a number of ways to pre-assign
> spots to meet up, and so on.

One very nice idea I saw at a different conference was this: People with local
knowledge reserved seats in nearby restaurants. Not huge amounts, but just 10
or 15 for each restaurant. They then put the info up on a board at the
conference. Just restaurant type, name, and address. And space for people to
write in their name. This way people who don't have any other plans can
self-allocate to one of the seats. Optionally you can also have subjects or
themes for each restaurant.

The whole thing is easy to set up for the organisers and uses the knowledge of
the local attendees.

> > c) No ice-breaker
> 
> I think that with 800 attendees, it gets really hard to host
> an ice breaker event practically. Even in Lausanne, the icebreaker
> event was pretty hard to actually meet people; imagining it
> with 2-3 times as many people seems impossible.

Maybe have several different ice-breaker events then. :-)

> > e) Lunch at least on the first day was a sea of people and
> >great difficulty in getting to the food. Choose to grab
> >a sandwich nearby coffee shop
> 
> I think a lot of this comes down to unfortunate assumptions
> about the size of the conference. The Organizing committee
> can correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was that much
> of the conference was designed around the idea of 500 attendees;
> food, wireless, etc. were initially targeted for that. With the
> conference ending up at almost 900, some of the things that are
> limited by physical resources ended up being a bit ... tighter 
> than expected :)

Aeh. No, this is due to the caterer beeing clueless. There is absolutely
no problem doing catering for 800 people in a short amount of time in
the space we had there. I have seen it done before. You just have to
set up the food in a different way. For instance by having more than
two lines. Or by having a different and well-announced place to go to
for just salad. So that some people go get salad and only go for the
other food later.

> > h) AGM should be planned well in advance. The idea of canceling
> >Local Chapter Reports and Committee reports was not a good one
> 
> These two statements are unrelated.
> 
> Local Chapter and committee reports are no longer practical to do
> in a situation where we have all attendees participating. Unless
> you limit them to 1 minute per (most people want something more like 5),
> it's 2 hours just to do local chapters, another hour for committes,
> and another 2 hours for projects.
> 
> I discussed with some people the idea of having an "What's what in 
> OSGeo" 'track' -- during breaks, lunches, or possibly alongside
> presentations -- that would let local chapters and projects 
> present. This would give groups a longer time to talk about what they
> were doing, and would give people who are interested in what local
> chapters are doing a 'default' place to go during these times.
> 
> Neither of these solutions is ideal, but short of turning the 
> AGM into an all day event, i don't think it's practical to include
> local chapter reports in the AGM.

Thats true, on the other hand there was a lot of "What is OsGeo" introductory
stuff in the AGM that most attendees probably already knew. There is some
room for improvement. :-)

But I think you are right: This doesn't all have to be in the AGM.
How about this: In every coffee break one or two local chapters present
themselves. Can be done in the poster area. A few people are interested
in several countries, but many people probably only want to know what
their own country is doing. This gives them a little bit of information
and a few contacts to build upon. Maybe same thing for projects. Could
also be combined with the restaurant idea from above.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS and layer stacking.

[P Kishor]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Christopher Schmidt
 wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 04:33:04PM +0200, P Kishor wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Ian Turton  wrote:
>> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bob Basques
>> >  wrote:
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> does anyone know if there is a layer hierarchy setting in the WMS service,
>> >> which layers are on top of which layers (Z value=)?
>> >>
>> >
>> > There is an "opaque" hint in the capabilities document that suggests
>> > that the layer should be a base layer. Other than that the layers are
>> > just drawn in the order the client requests them and there is no
>> > implied ordering from the capabilities file. For example GeoServer
>> > returns the layers in alphabetical order by namespace then layer name.
>> >
>>
>>
>> I was quite under the belief that the layers were requested, delivered
>> and drawn in the order they appeared in the map.addLayers([array])
>> invocation.
>
> You're discussing an implementation (OpenLayers), with multiple requests to
> the WMS server being stacked in the client.
>
> This discussion is about the WMS "API".


dang it... you are so right. Show how much my mind is consumed with OL nowadays.


>
> WMS draws layers from bottom to top, from the beginning of the list in the
> 'layers' param to the end.
>
>  layers=foo,bar,baz
>
> will put foo first, then bar, then baz.

Yes indeed.


>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS and layer stacking.

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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 04:33:04PM +0200, P Kishor wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Ian Turton  wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bob Basques
> >  wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> does anyone know if there is a layer hierarchy setting in the WMS service,
> >> which layers are on top of which layers (Z value=)?
> >>
> >
> > There is an "opaque" hint in the capabilities document that suggests
> > that the layer should be a base layer. Other than that the layers are
> > just drawn in the order the client requests them and there is no
> > implied ordering from the capabilities file. For example GeoServer
> > returns the layers in alphabetical order by namespace then layer name.
> >
> 
> 
> I was quite under the belief that the layers were requested, delivered
> and drawn in the order they appeared in the map.addLayers([array])
> invocation.

You're discussing an implementation (OpenLayers), with multiple requests to
the WMS server being stacked in the client. 

This discussion is about the WMS "API".

WMS draws layers from bottom to top, from the beginning of the list in the
'layers' param to the end.

 layers=foo,bar,baz

will put foo first, then bar, then baz.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS and layer stacking.

[P Kishor]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Ian Turton  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bob Basques
>  wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> does anyone know if there is a layer hierarchy setting in the WMS service,
>> which layers are on top of which layers (Z value=)?
>>
>
> There is an "opaque" hint in the capabilities document that suggests
> that the layer should be a base layer. Other than that the layers are
> just drawn in the order the client requests them and there is no
> implied ordering from the capabilities file. For example GeoServer
> returns the layers in alphabetical order by namespace then layer name.
>


I was quite under the belief that the layers were requested, delivered
and drawn in the order they appeared in the map.addLayers([array])
invocation.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thoughts on how to use elevation in routing

[Stephen Woodbridge]

Yes, on the OSGeo Discuss list there was the interesting suggestion that 
one could compute the viewshed for points along a road segment to get an 
estimate of the potential view from that segment. I'm thinking about 
doing this in the future since I already have the DEM which would be 
required for the US. The BIG problem is how to do this from a great many 
points as it is compute cost heavy.


There are also problems with vegetation blocking the view, but just 
computing the potential view based on the DEM might be a good starting 
point. By comparing the difference between a DEM that looks at the 
ground and one that looks at the vegetation you can probably get a good 
idea of whether or not the view is hidden by the vegetation.


So many ideas and so little time and compute power .

In the idea of costing cross traffic turns higher than with traffic 
turns, this would be a very cool feature to have in pgRouting. In the 
abstract we are adding a cost at a node based on a rule. If the rules 
are extensible, then a node might also represent a bus stop and a 
schedule such that given an arrival time at the stop we can cost then 
compute the wait time for each successive departure when doing 
multi-modal routing.


-Steve

On 9/15/2010 10:09 AM, Anton Patrushev wrote:

Correct, but not with only right (left) turns, but with much higher
costs for left (right) turns.
Slightly off the topic - at the FOSS4G conference poster session I saw
very interesting application for tourism with costs assigned according
to how beautiful or interesting road segments are.

Anton.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Geoff Hay  wrote:

Hi All
I seem to remember reading somewhere that UPS delivery routes are
constructed with only right turns (or left depending on the country) so as
to make use of 'free' turns to avoid waiting at traffic lights.
Geoff

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thoughts on how to use elevation in routing

[Chris Puttick]

Sounds to me like the kind of application that gets sold to someone in the UK, 
who are then surprised that all their deliveries start to take longer... (no 
free turns at red lights in the UK, red means stop)

- Original Message -
> Correct, but not with only right (left) turns, but with much higher
> costs for left (right) turns.
> Slightly off the topic - at the FOSS4G conference poster session I saw
> very interesting application for tourism with costs assigned according
> to how beautiful or interesting road segments are.
> 
> Anton.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Geoff Hay 
> wrote:
> > Hi All
> > I seem to remember reading somewhere that UPS delivery routes are
> > constructed with only right turns (or left depending on the country)
> > so as
> > to make use of 'free' turns to avoid waiting at traffic lights.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thoughts on how to use elevation in routing

[Anton Patrushev]

Correct, but not with only right (left) turns, but with much higher
costs for left (right) turns.
Slightly off the topic - at the FOSS4G conference poster session I saw
very interesting application for tourism with costs assigned according
to how beautiful or interesting road segments are.

Anton.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Geoff Hay  wrote:
> Hi All
> I seem to remember reading somewhere that UPS delivery routes are
> constructed with only right turns (or left depending on the country) so as
> to make use of 'free' turns to avoid waiting at traffic lights.
> Geoff
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS and layer stacking.

[Ian Turton]

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bob Basques
 wrote:
> All,
>
> does anyone know if there is a layer hierarchy setting in the WMS service,
> which layers are on top of which layers (Z value=)?
>

There is an "opaque" hint in the capabilities document that suggests
that the layer should be a base layer. Other than that the layers are
just drawn in the order the client requests them and there is no
implied ordering from the capabilities file. For example GeoServer
returns the layers in alphabetical order by namespace then layer name.

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Links to FOSS4G Presentations?

[Fawcett, David (MPCA)]

Thank you Lluis!

David.

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Hi David,

All presentations and worshop materials will be available to download from the 
foss4g2010 website pretty soon. Thanks for your patience.

Best regards,
Lluís

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Is there a central location with links to presentations and workshop materials 
from FOSS4G 2010?



I understand that materials from every workshop won't be made available, but it 
would be great to have a location to browse and see what is available.



Also, have the WMS Shootout results been posted anywhere?



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly

[Christopher Schmidt]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 06:38:22PM +0900, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Back to work after four weeks on the road
> with the ZOO-Team.
>
> Enjoyed being at FOSS4G2010. As usual there
> many good things, few bad things at least
> one ugly incident (for the ZOO-Team).
>
> About the good things, i will not spend too
> much time as it is obvious to all. Just to
> mention that it was wonderful to meet many
> of you folks and learn new things.
>
> Few bad things that I will elaborate more below;
>
> a) Difficulty in meet people since we were all spread
> out and there was not much info about common meeting
> points

Not really sure what you mean about this. I mean, we
were all in the conference center; the OSGeo Booth
was a reasonably easy to find meeting space, etc. On
each evening, I successfully gathered a crowd of 20+
for dinner, thanks to having a number of ways to pre-assign
spots to meet up, and so on.

> b) No "Practical Guide"

To the town? To the conference? Perhaps this existed somewhere
else; what would a practical guide contain?

> c) No ice-breaker

I think that with 800 attendees, it gets really hard to host
an ice breaker event practically. Even in Lausanne, the icebreaker
event was pretty hard to actually meet people; imagining it
with 2-3 times as many people seems impossible.

> e) Lunch at least on the first day was a sea of people and
>great difficulty in getting to the food. Choose to grab
>a sandwich nearby coffee shop

I think a lot of this comes down to unfortunate assumptions
about the size of the conference. The Organizing committee
can correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was that much
of the conference was designed around the idea of 500 attendees;
food, wireless, etc. were initially targeted for that. With the
conference ending up at almost 900, some of the things that are
limited by physical resources ended up being a bit ... tighter 
than expected :)

> f) Having poster session in lunch-time and having authors
>being present in front of their posters to answer questions.

Why is this a bad thing?

> g) Was not particularly amused by keynote speaker putting out
>his cap and a great guy running to the stage to put coins.
>Must think of better gimmicks to get money flowing into OSGeo.

I don't think that's a bad thing about the conference. I also think
that it tells an important story about OSGeo that most people don't
seem to be getting: we need sponsors if people want this organization
to survive in its current state. We need organizations who want
to support the organization (and the great conference it helps
make happen), we need support.

> h) AGM should be planned well in advance. The idea of canceling
>Local Chapter Reports and Committee reports was not a good one

These two statements are unrelated.

Local Chapter and committee reports are no longer practical to do
in a situation where we have all attendees participating. Unless
you limit them to 1 minute per (most people want something more like 5),
it's 2 hours just to do local chapters, another hour for committes,
and another 2 hours for projects.

I discussed with some people the idea of having an "What's what in 
OSGeo" 'track' -- during breaks, lunches, or possibly alongside
presentations -- that would let local chapters and projects 
present. This would give groups a longer time to talk about what they
were doing, and would give people who are interested in what local
chapters are doing a 'default' place to go during these times.

Neither of these solutions is ideal, but short of turning the 
AGM into an all day event, i don't think it's practical to include
local chapter reports in the AGM.

> i) Some kind of OSGeo-Nostalgia talk with ex-board director was
>missing

I don't really understand what you mean here.

> j) seated tables at Gala Dinner. Would have been better like a buffet
>with people able to mingle.

Enh. I personally liked this, but I can understand either wya. I think
you'll get some each way no matter what you do.

> k) Could not see many students. 

More explanation here; did you mean that students were unable to attend?
That you couldn't tell who the students were? That you didn't feel there
was ample oppourtunity to meet up with students? Something else?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Links to FOSS4G Presentations?

[Lluís Vicens]

Hi David,

All presentations and worshop materials will be available to download
from the foss4g2010 website pretty soon. Thanks for your patience.

Best regards,
Lluís





  


  
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  Is there a central location with links to presentations and workshop materials from FOSS4G 2010?

I understand that materials from every workshop won't be made available, but it would be great to have a location to browse and see what is available.  

Also, have the WMS Shootout results been posted anywhere?

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Java library that can read GML file then port to Java classes

[eros]

Can support the below gml/schema files?

xsd files:
http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/Ksj_Common.xsd
Ksj_Common.xsd 
http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/KsjAppSchema-A02_b-v1_0.xsd
KsjAppSchema-A02_b-v1_0.xsd 

gml file:
http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/A02-60M-13-b-5339.xml
A02-60M-13-b-5339.xml 

Please take a look with the files.
thanks a lot.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly

[Venkatesh Raghavan]

Hi All,

Back to work after four weeks on the road
with the ZOO-Team.

Enjoyed being at FOSS4G2010. As usual there
many good things, few bad things at least
one ugly incident (for the ZOO-Team).

About the good things, i will not spend too
much time as it is obvious to all. Just to
mention that it was wonderful to meet many
of you folks and learn new things.

Few bad things that I will elaborate more below;

a) Difficulty in meet people since we were all spread
out and there was not much info about common meeting
points
b) No "Practical Guide"
c) No ice-breaker
d) Had to pay for FOSS4G2010 T-Shirt
e) Lunch at least on the first day was a sea of people and
   great difficulty in getting to the food. Choose to grab
   a sandwich nearby coffee shop
f) Having poster session in lunch-time and having authors
   being present in front of their posters to answer questions.
g) Was not particularly amused by keynote speaker putting out
   his cap and a great guy running to the stage to put coins.
   Must think of better gimmicks to get money flowing into OSGeo.
h) AGM should be planned well in advance. The idea of canceling
   Local Chapter Reports and Committee reports was not a good one
i) Some kind of OSGeo-Nostalgia talk with ex-board director was
   missing
j) seated tables at Gala Dinner. Would have been better like a buffet
   with people able to mingle.
k) Could not see many students. Also, suggestions for best student
   paper and poster award that I have been talking about since long
   is not yet considered.
k) Bad also that I forget some other points to be listed here.

As for the ugly incident, we had to miss the AGM as
our car was towed away by the police for a minor parking
violation.

Hope to see some of you folks in some other parts
of the world when we will have more of the good,
few of the bad and none of the ugly.

Cheers

Venka

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Demande of help!

[Giovanni Manghi]

look for help here

http://www.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user



On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 09:08 +, libere mudende wrote:
> 
> I need a help about GRASS. So i use now MapInfos en my service. I
> considere that Grass is better than MapInfos.

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[libere mudende]

I need a help about GRASS. So i use now MapInfos en my service. I considere 
that Grass is better than MapInfos.
Mudende Libère.
--- En date de : Mer 15.9.10, Bill Thoen  a écrit :

De: Bill Thoen 
Objet: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for Yum or RPM Site for GIS Suite for Centos 
5.5
À: "OSGeo Discussions" 
Date: Mercredi 15 septembre 2010, 2h56



  



  Thanks! I've still got to
finish getting the machine built and the RAID system set up and
get PostgreSQL sorted out. Then I should be in position to start
loading up on GIS tools. I'll probably be asking plenty of
questions then.



- Bill Thoen

.

On 9/14/2010 5:41 AM, Mathieu Baudier wrote:

  
Thanks for all the help and advice on this, everybody! Especially for 
the
info on EPEL and ELGIS. I guess I had no idea that getting stable and

  
  You can browse the spec files here:
https://projects.argeo.org/elgis/svn/factory/trunk/rpmbuild/

in order to see whether the switches you need are all there.
At first glance I think they are, but if you need some more, I can try
to add them.


  
software. And it sounds like QGIS is a non-starter on CentOS. But I've 
got

  
  I'm still trying to get QGIS fully working on CentOS 5, but as Micha
put it, this may not be worth the effort given that RHEL/CentOS 6 is
around the corner.

For the time being you have QGIS 1.4 working, integrated with GRASS,
BUT without the Python plugins (a big limitation).
We also have SRPMS for QGIS 1.0.2 (their LTS version) but there was
little interest in it, so we dropped it.


  
I appreciate the help as always.

  
  Don't hesitate to join the EL GIS mailing-list:
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/el

This project is very user driven: we support what people actually use,
so this is the right place to send your wish list.
And feedback is very useful for us!
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