Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting

[Toru Mori (森 亮)]

I second to Ravi's proposal.

Toru Mori
OSGeo Japan Chapter

On 2012/07/24, at 13:48, Ravi Kumar wrote:

> Please consider changing the rule that only One vote for one candidate (by 
> the charter member) in the Board election.
> 
> Advantages:
> The only way to show that you prefer a candidate is by voting to him / her 
> more than once.
> 
> 
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Industry Working Group, composed of some key industry players (and we
>must consider how OSGeo can work with this group, as there is some great
>momentum being generated there)
>- a large FOSS4G event will not be happening in 2012
>
>Ambitions for OSGeo
>---
>
>I want OSGeo to grow.  I want every person in the geospatial industry to
>know what OSGeo and FOSS4G are.  I want them to see our passion, to feel
>it, to experience it.  And I want them to experience it in their local
>areas.  I want more local chapters forming, more informal chapter
>meetings over a drink and chat at the local restaurant.
>
>Personal Motivation
>---
>
>Some of you might wonder what happened, that I felt I should resign from
>the OSGeo Board so recently (February), after being so active on it
>since back in September of 2009.  Some community members might have
>strong opinions that: I was worn out, exhausted, frustrated, unhappy
>that my FOSS4G Advisor proposal didn't take off, needed a change, not
>made for such a director position,... I've now heard many opinions.
>Looking back now, I needed a break.  After Denver I needed to take some
>time, to step back.  And I did just that.
>
>Recently some might have noticed that I am active again; indeed I feel
>rejuvenated.  I am the old me.  Passionate about OSGeo, FOSS4G, and,
>chicken wings and beer :)
>
>Personal Goals
>--
>
>As Mike mentioned, I don't lack any passion for OSGeo or FOSS4G, I can
>be very vocal, but sometimes that is not what is needed.  I must learn
>to be more professional, to let others do their jobs, to let things
>happen, and to help the community grow.  I will work hard to do this.
>
>I have made many mistakes; and because I am so open and vocal, all of my
>mistakes are there for everyone to see.  But I don't regret being open.
> Mistakes give me character, make me who I am, allow me to grow.  So, I
>will grow with OSGeo and FOSS4G :)
>
>Call for more Board Nominations
>---
>
>I too have been asking other community members these past weeks if they
>are interested in being nominated for the Board; I hope everyone is
>contacting their own local community leaders and asking them.
>
>Thanks
>--
>
>I also respect that sometimes it is good to have new members on the
>Board, a new perspective, from a different geographic region (or how did
>Arnulf put it? a non-NorthAmerican-middleaged-male? ha)  And I agree.
>
>But don't get me wrong, I am interested in helping OSGeo and FOSS4G.  I
>would be honored to represent the community again.
>
>Thank you everyone, you've all really helped me grow.
>
>-jeff
>
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>
>
>
>
>On 12-07-23 7:03 PM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH wrote:
>> I would like to nominate Jeff McKenna to the board of OSGeo.
>> 
>> As to his qualifications, how much time to do you have? Jeff lives and
>> breathes OSGeo and is one of the most active members of the OSGeo
>> community. He is a friend, resource and gateway to all who have an
>> interest in Open Source (data and software) and OSGeo in particular.
>> Jeff is one of the original charter members (from 2006) and has been on
>> the OSGeo board before (September 2009). Jeff has a passion for OSGeo
>> that is unrivaled by anyone, a big heart, and  is considered someone
>> always ready to talk or listen when anyone, anywhere has a OSGeo
>> question, comment or critique. Jeff is very international in his
>> approach to OSGeo and works with and participates with many, many OSGeo
>> chapters worldwide. He has also been an incredible force behind almost
>> all of the international FOSS4G conferences. Jeff would be a humble,
>> strong, active and loud voice for OSGeo.
>> 
>> And I'm proud to call him my friend.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> -- 
>> Michael Smith
>> US Army Corps
>> Remote Sensing GIS/Center
>> 
>
>
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>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:30:25 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Ravi Kumar 
>To: osgeo-discuss 
>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Fwd:  Board elections Voting
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>I voted for a motion (2009) that limits a charter members vote to a Board 
nominee only once (not more that 1 even if voted more than once).
>I was in the board on that day (IRC) when a motion was proposed. Remember 
that some were reluctant to change the existing pattern where in a charter 
member can vote as many times as the number of Board member slots. Then I felt 
that OK I will go with the tide and voted for the motion.
>
>But now I feel this reduces the chances of voting to a worthy member 
competing for the board. At the same time it might be rude not voting to any 
other if he feels that he might reduce the chances of (his) the chosen one.
>Hope the present charter will react to this.?
>
>Ravi Kumar
>
>
> From: Seven (aka Arnulf) 
>To: bo...@lists.osgeo.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [Board] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting
> 
>On 07/24/2012 02:47 PM, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:
>> Can you please point me to what it says on the web.
>
>Venka,
>I am referring to the Elections page [1] which is a verbatim copy of
>last year's, so does not really help at all.
>
>Let's do some web archaeology (*):
>
>The elections process page gives more insight, actually it was a change
>edited by Frank explicitly disallowing weighed voting, see here: [2]
>
>The change was a regular agenda item on the 2010-01-07 [3] Board meeting
>and has been approved by the board. Everything open and correct.
>
>It was brought in as an amendment of wording by Paul Ramsey [4], Jeff
>McKenna and Tyler and supported by Christopher Schmidt.
>
>The corresponding explanation can be found on the IRC log, search for
>"08:03:33" at: [5].
>
>> Since the Charter members are voting, I thing a
>> consensus could be sought among the voters rather
>> than the board.
>
>You can add an item to the next board agenda including an explanation
>why you suggest a change back.
>
>
>We have discussed direct Charter Member votes before and it is still
>simply not practical, we will not get anywhere. As CRO I am having the
>closest experience with Charter Member responsiveness you can imagine.
>It is hard enough to get the board attend regular meetings and cast
>votes, anything more than that wont work.
>
>
>Best regards,
>Arnulf
>
>(*) This is one great thing about the Web and how we run OSGeo - it is
>really, really transparent. You might have to dig a bit, but it is all
>there.
>
>[1]
>http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2012#Nominate_new_Board_Members_-_2012-07-
23_-_2012-08-01
>[2]
>http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?
title=Proposed_Board_Election_Procedure&action=historysubmit&diff=44123&oldid=44122
>[3] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2010-01-07
>[4] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2009-10-08
>[5] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2009-10-08.log
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna

[maria . brovelli]

Hi Jeff, thanks!

I would like to second your nomination to the OSGeo Board.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Fwd: Board elections Voting

[maning sambale]

I support this proposal.  We are already doing this for the Charter
Membership election [0].

[0] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Membership_Process#Voting

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Stefano Costa  wrote:
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>>
>> But now I feel this reduces the chances of voting to a worthy
>> member competing for the board. At the same time it might be rude
>> not voting to any other if he feels that he might reduce the
>> chances of (his) the chosen one. Hope the present charter will
>> react to this.
>
> Why not something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schulze_method as
> used by the Debian project?
>
> Incidentally, this could be used for other voting purposes, too.
>
> Ciao,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Ravi Kumar]

Good to see that Jeff wants to be in the front and  in the Board.
+1



 From: Jeff McKenna 
To: osgeo  
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna
 
Hi Cameron,

I don't mind a public response.

I feel the OSGeo Conference Committee is very important.  I would enjoy
taking an active role in it again.  I feel it should be revived as soon
as possible.

I don't exactly know the correct process to name a chair - I am
interested in being the chair, but we need to make sure we follow
correct process.  I'll ping the conference list to discuss all of that.

Regarding the OSGeo-Advocate page (I will speak freely, I hope that is
ok): one point that always hits my brain as I click on that page, is,
how do you decide the ordering of countries on that page?  Is there
logic used?  Otherwise, my brain wants an alphabetical listing (or a
note above that explains the ordering); it seems to me to be very
unorganized.   I hope you don't take offense to that comment (I just
don't want to start editing the wiki and stepping on toes, which, I have
a habit of doing too often).

Indeed it is impressive seeing all the great names on that page, such
talented people!

Talk soon,

-jeff




On 12-07-24 5:34 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Jeff,
> Sent personally, but you are welcome to email your response publicly.
> Thanks for clarifying your position.
> 
> I'm interested to hear where you stand on the OSGeo Conference
> Committee, which I understand is lacking a chair, and is currently very
> quiet. Is this something you are interested in taking a more active role
> in again? (You certainly have the prior experience)
> 
> And as a bit of an unfair plug, I'm hoping that you could update your
> OSGeo-Advocate page, in the template format described here:
> 
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Process_for_becoming_an_OSGeo_Advocate
> 


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Venkatesh Raghavan]

On 2012/07/25 3:40, Mark Lucas wrote:

Jeff,

Great to have you back, look forward to working with you again.

Same here. Nice to see Jeff back all fresh and shining.
I would like to second his nomination to the OSGeo Board.

And look forward to his contribution to the community with
renewed vigor and zeal.

Best

Venka


On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Jeff McKenna  
wrote:


Hello OSGeo community!

I thank Mike for such a nice nomination.  It would be an honor to again
represent the OSGeo community on the Board of Directors of OSGeo, and I
accept this nomination.

General Thoughts


OSGeo for me has always been about the community.  I have worked very
hard in my career on specific parts of community building for OSGeo,
that often involved no code writing: answering questions on mailing
lists (often on non-English lists), documentation, installers, testing
new features in software, providing feedback to developers, event
planning, hands-on workshops, benchmarking...

So, in my mind, the future of OSGeo will still be about the community.
Sure, we/OSGeo are in the middle of an interesting time:

- a 15,000-strong event is happening as I write this now in San Diego,
and a lot of their products are using FOSS code now (this to me is very
positive)
- FOSS4G regional events are being created all around the globe (I am
fascinated as I watch this)
- Our recently added Charter Members are mostly all non-North American
(wow really a great sign of OSGeo and FOSS4G spreading around the world)
- OSGeo revenue sources are not as clear as before
- a very interesting group is being formed as we speak, Location
Industry Working Group, composed of some key industry players (and we
must consider how OSGeo can work with this group, as there is some great
momentum being generated there)
- a large FOSS4G event will not be happening in 2012

Ambitions for OSGeo
---

I want OSGeo to grow.  I want every person in the geospatial industry to
know what OSGeo and FOSS4G are.  I want them to see our passion, to feel
it, to experience it.  And I want them to experience it in their local
areas.  I want more local chapters forming, more informal chapter
meetings over a drink and chat at the local restaurant.

Personal Motivation
---

Some of you might wonder what happened, that I felt I should resign from
the OSGeo Board so recently (February), after being so active on it
since back in September of 2009.  Some community members might have
strong opinions that: I was worn out, exhausted, frustrated, unhappy
that my FOSS4G Advisor proposal didn't take off, needed a change, not
made for such a director position,... I've now heard many opinions.
Looking back now, I needed a break.  After Denver I needed to take some
time, to step back.  And I did just that.

Recently some might have noticed that I am active again; indeed I feel
rejuvenated.  I am the old me.  Passionate about OSGeo, FOSS4G, and,
chicken wings and beer :)

Personal Goals
--

As Mike mentioned, I don't lack any passion for OSGeo or FOSS4G, I can
be very vocal, but sometimes that is not what is needed.  I must learn
to be more professional, to let others do their jobs, to let things
happen, and to help the community grow.  I will work hard to do this.

I have made many mistakes; and because I am so open and vocal, all of my
mistakes are there for everyone to see.  But I don't regret being open.
Mistakes give me character, make me who I am, allow me to grow.  So, I
will grow with OSGeo and FOSS4G :)

Call for more Board Nominations
---

I too have been asking other community members these past weeks if they
are interested in being nominated for the Board; I hope everyone is
contacting their own local community leaders and asking them.

Thanks
--

I also respect that sometimes it is good to have new members on the
Board, a new perspective, from a different geographic region (or how did
Arnulf put it? a non-NorthAmerican-middleaged-male? ha)  And I agree.

But don't get me wrong, I am interested in helping OSGeo and FOSS4G.  I
would be honored to represent the community again.

Thank you everyone, you've all really helped me grow.

-jeff

--
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On 12-07-23 7:03 PM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH wrote:

I would like to nominate Jeff McKenna to the board of OSGeo.

As to his qualifications, how much time to do you have? Jeff lives and
breathes OSGeo and is one of the most active members of the OSGeo
community. He is a friend, resource and gateway to all who have an
interest in Open Source (data and software) and OSGeo in particular.
Jeff is one of the original charter members (from 2006) and has been on
the OSGeo board before (September 2009). Jeff has a passion for OSGeo
that is unrivaled by anyone, a big heart, and  is considered someone
always ready to talk or listen when anyone, anywhere has a OSGeo
question, comment or critique. Jeff is very interna

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Cameron Shorter]

On 25/07/12 06:54, Jeff McKenna wrote:

Regarding the OSGeo-Advocate page (I will speak freely, I hope that is
ok): one point that always hits my brain as I click on that page, is,
how do you decide the ordering of countries on that page?  Is there
logic used?  Otherwise, my brain wants an alphabetical listing (or a
note above that explains the ordering); it seems to me to be very
unorganized.   I hope you don't take offense to that comment (I just
don't want to start editing the wiki and stepping on toes, which, I have
a habit of doing too often).


The countries have been ordered roughly in the order that advocates have 
added their profiles.

And you will note that we have started grouping countries by regions.
I'm open to discuss how to reorder the page on the marketing email list 
if you wish.




Indeed it is impressive seeing all the great names on that page, such
talented people!


Yes, indeed. It will be a very valuable marketing tool for OSGeo to be 
able to point people at this advocate list and say "This is the team 
that you get when you make use of OSGeo Software".  I think we only have 
about 1/4 of the people who I'd like to see on the list.
Hoping to see lots of people put in a half hour to get their profile 
updated and listed.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Jeff McKenna]

Hi Cameron,

I don't mind a public response.

I feel the OSGeo Conference Committee is very important.  I would enjoy
taking an active role in it again.  I feel it should be revived as soon
as possible.

I don't exactly know the correct process to name a chair - I am
interested in being the chair, but we need to make sure we follow
correct process.  I'll ping the conference list to discuss all of that.

Regarding the OSGeo-Advocate page (I will speak freely, I hope that is
ok): one point that always hits my brain as I click on that page, is,
how do you decide the ordering of countries on that page?  Is there
logic used?  Otherwise, my brain wants an alphabetical listing (or a
note above that explains the ordering); it seems to me to be very
unorganized.   I hope you don't take offense to that comment (I just
don't want to start editing the wiki and stepping on toes, which, I have
a habit of doing too often).

Indeed it is impressive seeing all the great names on that page, such
talented people!

Talk soon,

-jeff




On 12-07-24 5:34 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Jeff,
> Sent personally, but you are welcome to email your response publicly.
> Thanks for clarifying your position.
> 
> I'm interested to hear where you stand on the OSGeo Conference
> Committee, which I understand is lacking a chair, and is currently very
> quiet. Is this something you are interested in taking a more active role
> in again? (You certainly have the prior experience)
> 
> And as a bit of an unfair plug, I'm hoping that you could update your
> OSGeo-Advocate page, in the template format described here:
> 
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Process_for_becoming_an_OSGeo_Advocate
> 


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Mark Lucas]

Jeff,

Great to have you back, look forward to working with you again.

Mark



On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Jeff McKenna  
wrote:

> Hello OSGeo community!
> 
> I thank Mike for such a nice nomination.  It would be an honor to again
> represent the OSGeo community on the Board of Directors of OSGeo, and I
> accept this nomination.
> 
> General Thoughts
> 
> 
> OSGeo for me has always been about the community.  I have worked very
> hard in my career on specific parts of community building for OSGeo,
> that often involved no code writing: answering questions on mailing
> lists (often on non-English lists), documentation, installers, testing
> new features in software, providing feedback to developers, event
> planning, hands-on workshops, benchmarking...
> 
> So, in my mind, the future of OSGeo will still be about the community.
> Sure, we/OSGeo are in the middle of an interesting time:
> 
> - a 15,000-strong event is happening as I write this now in San Diego,
> and a lot of their products are using FOSS code now (this to me is very
> positive)
> - FOSS4G regional events are being created all around the globe (I am
> fascinated as I watch this)
> - Our recently added Charter Members are mostly all non-North American
> (wow really a great sign of OSGeo and FOSS4G spreading around the world)
> - OSGeo revenue sources are not as clear as before
> - a very interesting group is being formed as we speak, Location
> Industry Working Group, composed of some key industry players (and we
> must consider how OSGeo can work with this group, as there is some great
> momentum being generated there)
> - a large FOSS4G event will not be happening in 2012
> 
> Ambitions for OSGeo
> ---
> 
> I want OSGeo to grow.  I want every person in the geospatial industry to
> know what OSGeo and FOSS4G are.  I want them to see our passion, to feel
> it, to experience it.  And I want them to experience it in their local
> areas.  I want more local chapters forming, more informal chapter
> meetings over a drink and chat at the local restaurant.
> 
> Personal Motivation
> ---
> 
> Some of you might wonder what happened, that I felt I should resign from
> the OSGeo Board so recently (February), after being so active on it
> since back in September of 2009.  Some community members might have
> strong opinions that: I was worn out, exhausted, frustrated, unhappy
> that my FOSS4G Advisor proposal didn't take off, needed a change, not
> made for such a director position,... I've now heard many opinions.
> Looking back now, I needed a break.  After Denver I needed to take some
> time, to step back.  And I did just that.
> 
> Recently some might have noticed that I am active again; indeed I feel
> rejuvenated.  I am the old me.  Passionate about OSGeo, FOSS4G, and,
> chicken wings and beer :)
> 
> Personal Goals
> --
> 
> As Mike mentioned, I don't lack any passion for OSGeo or FOSS4G, I can
> be very vocal, but sometimes that is not what is needed.  I must learn
> to be more professional, to let others do their jobs, to let things
> happen, and to help the community grow.  I will work hard to do this.
> 
> I have made many mistakes; and because I am so open and vocal, all of my
> mistakes are there for everyone to see.  But I don't regret being open.
> Mistakes give me character, make me who I am, allow me to grow.  So, I
> will grow with OSGeo and FOSS4G :)
> 
> Call for more Board Nominations
> ---
> 
> I too have been asking other community members these past weeks if they
> are interested in being nominated for the Board; I hope everyone is
> contacting their own local community leaders and asking them.
> 
> Thanks
> --
> 
> I also respect that sometimes it is good to have new members on the
> Board, a new perspective, from a different geographic region (or how did
> Arnulf put it? a non-NorthAmerican-middleaged-male? ha)  And I agree.
> 
> But don't get me wrong, I am interested in helping OSGeo and FOSS4G.  I
> would be honored to represent the community again.
> 
> Thank you everyone, you've all really helped me grow.
> 
> -jeff
> 
> --
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12-07-23 7:03 PM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH wrote:
>> I would like to nominate Jeff McKenna to the board of OSGeo.
>> 
>> As to his qualifications, how much time to do you have? Jeff lives and
>> breathes OSGeo and is one of the most active members of the OSGeo
>> community. He is a friend, resource and gateway to all who have an
>> interest in Open Source (data and software) and OSGeo in particular.
>> Jeff is one of the original charter members (from 2006) and has been on
>> the OSGeo board before (September 2009). Jeff has a passion for OSGeo
>> that is unrivaled by anyone, a big heart, and  is considered someone
>> always ready to talk or listen when anyone, anywhere has a OSGeo
>> question, comment or critique. Jeff is very international in his
>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Fwd: Board elections Voting

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> 
> But now I feel this reduces the chances of voting to a worthy
> member competing for the board. At the same time it might be rude
> not voting to any other if he feels that he might reduce the
> chances of (his) the chosen one. Hope the present charter will
> react to this.

Why not something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schulze_method as
used by the Debian project?

Incidentally, this could be used for other voting purposes, too.

Ciao,
steko
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Fwd: Board elections Voting

[Ravi Kumar]

I voted for a motion (2009) that limits a charter members vote to a Board 
nominee only once (not more that 1 even if voted more than once).
I was in the board on that day (IRC) when a motion was proposed. Remember that 
some were reluctant to change the existing pattern where in a charter member 
can vote as many times as the number of Board member slots. Then I felt that OK 
I will go with the tide and voted for the motion.

But now I feel this reduces the chances of voting to a worthy member competing 
for the board. At the same time it might be rude not voting to any other if he 
feels that he might reduce the chances of (his) the chosen one.
Hope the present charter will react to this. 

Ravi Kumar


 From: Seven (aka Arnulf) 
To: bo...@lists.osgeo.org 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Board] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections Voting
 
On 07/24/2012 02:47 PM, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:
> Can you please point me to what it says on the web.

Venka,
I am referring to the Elections page [1] which is a verbatim copy of
last year's, so does not really help at all.

Let's do some web archaeology (*):

The elections process page gives more insight, actually it was a change
edited by Frank explicitly disallowing weighed voting, see here: [2]

The change was a regular agenda item on the 2010-01-07 [3] Board meeting
and has been approved by the board. Everything open and correct.

It was brought in as an amendment of wording by Paul Ramsey [4], Jeff
McKenna and Tyler and supported by Christopher Schmidt.

The corresponding explanation can be found on the IRC log, search for
"08:03:33" at: [5].

> Since the Charter members are voting, I thing a
> consensus could be sought among the voters rather
> than the board.

You can add an item to the next board agenda including an explanation
why you suggest a change back.


We have discussed direct Charter Member votes before and it is still
simply not practical, we will not get anywhere. As CRO I am having the
closest experience with Charter Member responsiveness you can imagine.
It is hard enough to get the board attend regular meetings and cast
votes, anything more than that wont work.


Best regards,
Arnulf

(*) This is one great thing about the Web and how we run OSGeo - it is
really, really transparent. You might have to dig a bit, but it is all
there.

[1]
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2012#Nominate_new_Board_Members_-_2012-07-23_-_2012-08-01
[2]
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Proposed_Board_Election_Procedure&action=historysubmit&diff=44123&oldid=44122
[3] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2010-01-07
[4] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2009-10-08
[5] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2009-10-08.log

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Jeff McKenna]

Hello OSGeo community!

I thank Mike for such a nice nomination.  It would be an honor to again
represent the OSGeo community on the Board of Directors of OSGeo, and I
accept this nomination.

General Thoughts


OSGeo for me has always been about the community.  I have worked very
hard in my career on specific parts of community building for OSGeo,
that often involved no code writing: answering questions on mailing
lists (often on non-English lists), documentation, installers, testing
new features in software, providing feedback to developers, event
planning, hands-on workshops, benchmarking...

So, in my mind, the future of OSGeo will still be about the community.
Sure, we/OSGeo are in the middle of an interesting time:

- a 15,000-strong event is happening as I write this now in San Diego,
and a lot of their products are using FOSS code now (this to me is very
positive)
- FOSS4G regional events are being created all around the globe (I am
fascinated as I watch this)
- Our recently added Charter Members are mostly all non-North American
(wow really a great sign of OSGeo and FOSS4G spreading around the world)
- OSGeo revenue sources are not as clear as before
- a very interesting group is being formed as we speak, Location
Industry Working Group, composed of some key industry players (and we
must consider how OSGeo can work with this group, as there is some great
momentum being generated there)
- a large FOSS4G event will not be happening in 2012

Ambitions for OSGeo
---

I want OSGeo to grow.  I want every person in the geospatial industry to
know what OSGeo and FOSS4G are.  I want them to see our passion, to feel
it, to experience it.  And I want them to experience it in their local
areas.  I want more local chapters forming, more informal chapter
meetings over a drink and chat at the local restaurant.

Personal Motivation
---

Some of you might wonder what happened, that I felt I should resign from
the OSGeo Board so recently (February), after being so active on it
since back in September of 2009.  Some community members might have
strong opinions that: I was worn out, exhausted, frustrated, unhappy
that my FOSS4G Advisor proposal didn't take off, needed a change, not
made for such a director position,... I've now heard many opinions.
Looking back now, I needed a break.  After Denver I needed to take some
time, to step back.  And I did just that.

Recently some might have noticed that I am active again; indeed I feel
rejuvenated.  I am the old me.  Passionate about OSGeo, FOSS4G, and,
chicken wings and beer :)

Personal Goals
--

As Mike mentioned, I don't lack any passion for OSGeo or FOSS4G, I can
be very vocal, but sometimes that is not what is needed.  I must learn
to be more professional, to let others do their jobs, to let things
happen, and to help the community grow.  I will work hard to do this.

I have made many mistakes; and because I am so open and vocal, all of my
mistakes are there for everyone to see.  But I don't regret being open.
 Mistakes give me character, make me who I am, allow me to grow.  So, I
will grow with OSGeo and FOSS4G :)

Call for more Board Nominations
---

I too have been asking other community members these past weeks if they
are interested in being nominated for the Board; I hope everyone is
contacting their own local community leaders and asking them.

Thanks
--

I also respect that sometimes it is good to have new members on the
Board, a new perspective, from a different geographic region (or how did
Arnulf put it? a non-NorthAmerican-middleaged-male? ha)  And I agree.

But don't get me wrong, I am interested in helping OSGeo and FOSS4G.  I
would be honored to represent the community again.

Thank you everyone, you've all really helped me grow.

-jeff

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On 12-07-23 7:03 PM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH wrote:
> I would like to nominate Jeff McKenna to the board of OSGeo.
> 
> As to his qualifications, how much time to do you have? Jeff lives and
> breathes OSGeo and is one of the most active members of the OSGeo
> community. He is a friend, resource and gateway to all who have an
> interest in Open Source (data and software) and OSGeo in particular.
> Jeff is one of the original charter members (from 2006) and has been on
> the OSGeo board before (September 2009). Jeff has a passion for OSGeo
> that is unrivaled by anyone, a big heart, and  is considered someone
> always ready to talk or listen when anyone, anywhere has a OSGeo
> question, comment or critique. Jeff is very international in his
> approach to OSGeo and works with and participates with many, many OSGeo
> chapters worldwide. He has also been an incredible force behind almost
> all of the international FOSS4G conferences. Jeff would be a humble,
> strong, active and loud voice for OSGeo.
> 
> And I'm proud to call him my friend.
> 
> Mike
> 
> -- 
> Michael Smith
> US 

[OSGeo-Discuss] ricerca di definizioni per SMART?

[agatalota...@libero.it]

Buongiorno.

Vi invio alcuni links sperando di fare cosa gradita:
http://smartinnovation.forumpa.it/dossier/Le%20parole%20d%27ordine%20per%20la%
20smart%20city?utm_source=SMARTINNOVATION&utm_medium=2012-07-23

http://smartinnovation.forumpa.it/story/69436/cosa-vuol-dire-smart-sostenibile-
partecipata-senziente-ecco-la-citta-che-vorremmo?
utm_source=SMARTINNOVATION&utm_medium=2012-07-23

Cari saluti,
agata

ps- Io ho già dato la mia definizione usando la funzione "aggiungi commenti a 
FORUM PA"

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>   3. OGC's GIS SErver vs non Standard like Mapnik (Frans Thamura)
>   4. Re: OSGeo meet up in Tokyo (Toru Mori (? ?))
>   5. Board elections Voting (Ravi Kumar)
>   6. Re: Board elections Voting (Alex Mandel)
>   7. Re: Board elections Voting (Venkatesh Raghavan)
>   8. Re: Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna (Bart van den Eijnden)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 03:45:33 +0700
>From: Firman Hadi 
>To: Frans Thamura 
>Cc: "Dr. Franz-Josef Behr" ,
>   discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G-SEA a sucess
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>Dear Frans,
>
>Prof. Behr is right that we were invited through this mailing list.
>I was there on the first day of the AGSE 2012 to accompany my colleague
>presented his research. Too bad that I could not join the FOSS4G-SEA meeting
>due to business reason.
>
>Maybe we can initiate the OSGEO Indonesian Chapter meeting? 
>FYI, the Indonesia Ministry of Research and Technology is currently working
>to implement and promote the use of open source GIS for the R & D agencies
>in Indonesia. We held three days national workshop earlier this month in 
Surakarta 
>and it will be followed by regional workshops later this year.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Firman Hadi
>Center for Remote Sensing 
>Institute Technology of Bandung
>Indonesia
>
>
>
>
>On Jul 23, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Frans Thamura wrote:
>
>> r u sure?...
>> 
>> but anyway, i still operate .or.id
>> 
>> On 7/23/12, Dr. Franz-Josef Behr  
wrote:
>>> But you WERE invited, and we had contact before the event!
>>> 
>>> I am convinced you would have enriched the event!
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Franz-Josef
>>> 
 i am not invited
>>> 
 On Jul 21, 2012 11:45 PM, "maning sambale" >>> >
 wrote:
 
> /  Dear everyone,
 />/
 />/  I am happy to announce that (personally) foss4g-sea 2012 [0] was a
 />/  success.  This event was in conjunction with the partner conference
 />/  AGSE 2012 [1].  I personally thank UTM, Dr. Behr and Dr. Thuy for
 />/  making this a success.  Everyone got their very own OSGeo Live-DVD.
 />/
 />/  OSGeo Malaysia Local Chapter convened during the event and  I 
expect
 />/  more activities from the LC will move afterwards.
 />/
 />/  Many of the participants have heard of open source but I'm amazed 
to
 />/  see that many where surprised of what it can actually do.  Lots of
 new
 />/  converts in my opinion (including the Malaysian national mapping
 />/  agency who attended my QGIS workshop). :)
 />/
 />/  Dr. Behr and Dr. Thuy can provide more details.  Thanks again.
 />/
 />/
 />/  [0]http://foss4g-sea.org/
 />/  [1]http://applied-geoinformatics.org/
 />/  --
 />/  cheers,
 />/  maning
 />/  --
 />/  "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
 />/  wiki:http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
 />/  blog:http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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