Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members
Il 17/09/2014 22:42, P Kishor ha scritto: also in this thread) is like waking up at night to find a bunch of strangers chatting in your living room. Definitely, involving Charter Members would be a very sound and nice thing to do. +1 I share Puneet feelings. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu Corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members
+1 for involving charter members Maria Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano ISPRS WG IV/5 Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications - Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory Board Member - SIFET Scientific Commitee Member Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA) Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321 e-mail1: maria.brove...@polimi.it e-mail2: prorettr...@como.polimi.it Da: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org per conto di Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it Inviato: giovedì 18 settembre 2014 08.03 A: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members Il 17/09/2014 22:42, P Kishor ha scritto: also in this thread) is like waking up at night to find a bunch of strangers chatting in your living room. Definitely, involving Charter Members would be a very sound and nice thing to do. +1 I share Puneet feelings. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu Corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members
This ' LocationTech and OSGeo collaboration ', appears to be some thing that the OSGeo Charter should involve and motivate opinion etc. Those at the helm may pl post a summary of the, 'storey so far'. On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:23 AM, Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.com wrote: Just noting, discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo .. or LocationTech. It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly) developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good. If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's position. Jachym 2014-09-17 22:42 GMT+02:00 P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com: My guess is, just as I do, most Charter Members find this entire thread very alien. For us who don't go to FOSS4G, OSGeo means something completely different (here is where I disagree with an earlier email--I think it was Jo Cook--that folks know OSGeo products but not OSGeo). To suddenly hear of all this chatter about FOSS4G being used as a football between OSGeo and LocationTech (an org I heard about for the first time also in this thread) is like waking up at night to find a bunch of strangers chatting in your living room. Definitely, involving Charter Members would be a very sound and nice thing to do. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Steven Feldman shfeld...@gmail.com wrote: Before we get to the stage of polling charter members and local chapters, it would be helpful if more of the charter membership and local chapters chipped in with their opinions. Many seem to have been very quiet, i am sure they must have a view __ Steven On 17 Sep 2014, at 20:00, conference-europe-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Massimiliano Cannata massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo Date: 17 September 2014 19:22:24 BST To: P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com Cc: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org Puneet, I agree with you, this is an hot decision that cannot be taken by a small group of people without at least have heard about what the OSGeo community think about. In this tread I have learnt a lot on LocationTech and on motivation that pushed some OSGeo members to embrace also LocationTech. I can really feel the desire to help and foster geospatial open source software from those guys. BTW, I also believe that FOSS4G is the OSGeo event. For this reason I believe that if OSGeo want to change things and share it with LocationTech (not just let them organize it in the name of), we need a deep OSGeo internal discussion at all level: Local Chapters, Charter members, Committees and finally the Board which has the responsibility to vote on this. So, my proposal is: 1) Have a formal proposal from LocationTech which explain terms of collaboration, commitments and guarantees 2) Publish publicly this proposal for a period (let's say 2 week) for people to look into this proposal 3) Call for a vote from charter members 4) Call for a letter of position letter from each committee and local Chapters 5) Publish publicly the results 6) Discuss it on the next board meeting and finally have a vote and a letter of motivation from the Board BTW, the FOSS4G-EUROPE website (http://foss4g-e.org/) states clearly at the home page: OSGeo's European Conference on Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial. I hope this doesn't hurt anyone, and brings positive point of discussion. It is just my personal thought as a new board member, and sorry if I've lost some best practice currently in place. Maxi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Puneet Kishor Manager, Science and Data Policy Creative Commons ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Jachym Cepicky e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com URL: http://les-ejk.cz GPG: http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp Give your code freedom with PyWPS - http://pywps.wald.intevation.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Ravi Kumar___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members
Dear All, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.com wrote: Just noting, discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo .. or LocationTech. It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly) developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good. If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's position. If anyone is wondering why most charter members remained silent about the topic, here i can offer my 2 cents.. It is true that this is a long story, but it's hard to find all the elements needed for judgement. I'd ask those that have personally followed the steps, to kindly fill a wiki page with the most important facts. Another thing is that, for those that couldn't make it at FOSS4G, it is (I believe) not easy to understand on what exactly the community of charter members is being called to express their opinion. What does it mean to cooperate and what does it imply for the organizations involved? Is it a case by case cooperation what you're talking about? why it looks like is the FOSS4G event at stake here? Thanks for any pointers -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members
Hello, well said Gert-Jan. I would like to say that I feel that the Board is responsible to provide decision proposals, giving the full meaning / goals of each decision proposed (this is really important to me to be also more open in this part), clarifying the proposals may help for better understanding of the Foundation goals and should probably help in the past too, to make all the OSGeo Charter Members understanding where the Foundation is willing to go. Then if we have clear defined goals bind to the proposals made then it is more fair to ask the Charter Member to vote or amend the decision taken by the Board. I hope my point is clear, Best regards, Le 18 sept. 2014 à 08:14, Maria Antonia Brovelli maria.brove...@polimi.it a écrit : +1 for involving charter members Maria Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano ISPRS WG IV/5 Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications - Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory Board Member - SIFET Scientific Commitee Member Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA) Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321 e-mail1: maria.brove...@polimi.it e-mail2: prorettr...@como.polimi.it Da: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org per conto di Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it Inviato: giovedì 18 settembre 2014 08.03 A: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members Il 17/09/2014 22:42, P Kishor ha scritto: also in this thread) is like waking up at night to find a bunch of strangers chatting in your living room. Definitely, involving Charter Members would be a very sound and nice thing to do. +1 I share Puneet feelings. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu Corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gérald Fenoy http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members
Dear All I agree completely with Margherita. The most of people are asking themselves what it is happening. Please who was and is involved, please write the history of what has happened on a wiki page. When the plot is finalised the charter members vote. Maria Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano Public Participation GIS: a FOSS architecture enabling field-data collection http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF ISPRS WG IV/5 Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications - Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory Board Member - SIFET Scientific Commitee Member Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA) Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321 e-mail1: mailto:maria.brove...@polimi.it maria.brove...@polimi.itmailto:maria.brove...@polimi.it e-mail2: prorettr...@como.polimi.itmailto:prorettr...@como.polimi.it Da: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org per conto di Margherita Di Leo direg...@gmail.com Inviato: giovedì 18 settembre 2014 10.13 A: Jachym Cepicky Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; conference; osgeo-board List; Steven Feldman Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members Dear All, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.commailto:jachym.cepi...@gmail.com wrote: Just noting, discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo .. or LocationTech. It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly) developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good. If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's position. If anyone is wondering why most charter members remained silent about the topic, here i can offer my 2 cents.. It is true that this is a long story, but it's hard to find all the elements needed for judgement. I'd ask those that have personally followed the steps, to kindly fill a wiki page with the most important facts. Another thing is that, for those that couldn't make it at FOSS4G, it is (I believe) not easy to understand on what exactly the community of charter members is being called to express their opinion. What does it mean to cooperate and what does it imply for the organizations involved? Is it a case by case cooperation what you're talking about? why it looks like is the FOSS4G event at stake here? Thanks for any pointers -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eumailto:margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo
Hi all, sorry for coming so late in this thread but I would like to try rephrase what Bart said to the following: On one hand you have a Foundation, let’s name it OSGeo, which is willing to be more professional at organizing the FOSS4G and searching for the help of a professional organization to do so. On the other hand you have a professional organization, let’s name it LocationTech, which proven to be devoted to the previous one and is willing to provide this help by providing bids for organizing the next FOSS4Gs. So from here, I feel we should all keep calm and try to speak our mind in a constructive and when possible positive way. Indeed, if we reread the first paragraph here, can we see anything bad in what is happening except solution (or at least kind-of). Obviously, nothing is totally black or totally white anywhere, so we obviously have to take good care of the implications this may have in the futur and protect what we think have to be protected for being able to evolve safely as a Foundation. But please one more time, let us try to be more positive and let’s *move on* without facing the same issue again and again. I feel it started already. Best, Le 14 sept. 2014 à 08:51, Bart van den Eijnden bart...@osgis.nl a écrit : Okay then I have 2 follow-up questions for you and/or Jeff: 1) do you acknowledge we have a problem with FOSS4G organising? 2) what other solutions to this problem do you see and why are they better than co-organising with Eclipse/LocationTech? Bart Gérald Fenoy http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members
HI all, As there is a request for Charter Members to chime in, here my 2 cents: The issue on hand is highlighting excellently the need for effective and efficient decision procedures based on mandates. OSGeo has but embarked on establishing these, currently discussions are driven more by gut feeling than by ordered bylaws and procedures. The fact that there are projects in incubation for 4.5 years [1] and still not done underlines this. A grassroots mindset is good for gathering people initially, but to exercise impact at large we need efficient, agreed decision structures. With some of the last posts I see that we are embarking in this direction, and I very much applaude to that. cheers, Peter [1] http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeo On 09/18/2014 09:59 AM, Ravi Kumar wrote: This ' LocationTech and OSGeo collaboration ', appears to be some thing that the OSGeo Charter should involve and motivate opinion etc. Those at the helm may pl post a summary of the, 'storey so far'. On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:23 AM, Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.com wrote: Just noting, discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo .. or LocationTech. It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly) developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good. If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's position. Jachym 2014-09-17 22:42 GMT+02:00 P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com mailto:punk.k...@gmail.com: My guess is, just as I do, most Charter Members find this entire thread very alien. For us who don't go to FOSS4G, OSGeo means something completely different (here is where I disagree with an earlier email--I think it was Jo Cook--that folks know OSGeo products but not OSGeo). To suddenly hear of all this chatter about FOSS4G being used as a football between OSGeo and LocationTech (an org I heard about for the first time also in this thread) is like waking up at night to find a bunch of strangers chatting in your living room. Definitely, involving Charter Members would be a very sound and nice thing to do. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Steven Feldman shfeld...@gmail.com mailto:shfeld...@gmail.com wrote: Before we get to the stage of polling charter members and local chapters, it would be helpful if more of the charter membership and local chapters chipped in with their opinions. Many seem to have been very quiet, i am sure they must have a view __ Steven On 17 Sep 2014, at 20:00, conference-europe-requ...@lists.osgeo.org mailto:conference-europe-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: From: Massimiliano Cannata massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch mailto:massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo Date: 17 September 2014 19:22:24 BST To: P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com mailto:punk.k...@gmail.com Cc: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org Puneet, I agree with you, this is an hot decision that cannot be taken by a small group of people without at least have heard about what the OSGeo community think about. In this tread I have learnt a lot on LocationTech and on motivation that pushed some OSGeo members to embrace also LocationTech. I can really feel the desire to help and foster geospatial open source software from those guys. BTW, I also believe that FOSS4G is the OSGeo event. For this reason I believe that if OSGeo want to change things and share it with LocationTech (not just let them organize it in the name of), we need a deep OSGeo internal discussion at all level: Local Chapters, Charter members, Committees and finally the Board which has the responsibility to vote on this. So, my proposal is: 1) Have a formal proposal from LocationTech which explain terms of collaboration, commitments and guarantees 2) Publish publicly this proposal for a period (let's say 2 week) for people to look into this proposal 3) Call for a vote from charter members 4) Call for a letter of position letter from each committee and local Chapters 5) Publish publicly the results 6) Discuss it on the next board meeting and finally have a vote and a letter of motivation from the Board BTW, the FOSS4G-EUROPE website (http://foss4g-e.org/) states clearly at the home page: OSGeo's European Conference on Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial. I hope this doesn't hurt anyone, and brings positive point of discussion. It is just my personal thought as a new board member, and sorry if
[OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members
I second Jachym and Peter. Peter Baumann: HI all, As there is a request for Charter Members to chime in, here my 2 cents: The issue on hand is highlighting excellently the need for effective and efficient decision procedures based on mandates. OSGeo has but embarked on establishing these, currently discussions are driven more by gut feeling than by ordered bylaws and procedures. The fact that there are projects in incubation for 4.5 years [1] and still not done underlines this. A grassroots mindset is good for gathering people initially, but to exercise impact at large we need efficient, agreed decision structures. With some of the last posts I see that we are embarking in this direction, and I very much applaude to that. Jachym Cepicky: So, now we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good. If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeos position. on the horizon I see 3 (already worked on) tasks of the OSGeo foundation: (a) service/infrastructure provider for foss4g projects, (b) open minded community nucleus of foss4g spirit, (c) business support for foss4g as OSGeo is happily growing :-) and has reached a critical size, well reviewed structures are needed to work on all or some of these tasks, alone or in cooperation with other organisations ... lets find OSGeos position. best Helmut OSGeo: wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Hellik Peter Baumann: HI all, As there is a request for Charter Members to chime in, here my 2 cents: The issue on hand is highlighting excellently the need for effective and efficient decision procedures based on mandates. OSGeo has but embarked on establishing these, currently discussions are driven more by gut feeling than by ordered bylaws and procedures. The fact that there are projects in incubation for 4.5 years [1] and still not done underlines this. A grassroots mindset is good for gathering people initially, but to exercise impact at large we need efficient, agreed decision structures. With some of the last posts I see that we are embarking in this direction, and I very much applaude to that. cheers, Peter [1] http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeo On 09/18/2014 09:59 AM, Ravi Kumar wrote: This LocationTech and OSGeo collaboration , appears to be some thing that the OSGeo Charter should involve and motivate opinion etc. Those at the helm may pl post a summary of the, storey so far. On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:23 AM, Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepicky at gmail.com wrote: Just noting, discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo .. or LocationTech. Its just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly) developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good. If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeos position. Jachym ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] prepare questionnaire for our members, about osgeo mission, goals review, ...
Hi, great mails after FOSS4G. I wish, we had chance to talk about stuff openly face2face on FOSS4G, but there was no timeslot, nor members (not so many). If you agree, I (any help welcomed) volunteer for creating questionnaire (using google forms) with questions to our charter members. The results should be: * review of OSGeo goals as described on [1] * feedback from local chapters, why they need OSGeo * feedback from projects, future projects - why did they want to be osgeo project, why do they still want to remain osgeo project, why there are not so many new osgeo projects * feedback from members: why are you member, what are you expecting from osgeo * ... others ... Someone else might put it into mail in more structured way. Any agreement? Co-volunteer? Good idea? Absolutely bad idea? Jachym [1] http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/about.html -- Jachym Cepicky e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com URL: http://les-ejk.cz GPG: http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp Give your code freedom with PyWPS - http://pywps.wald.intevation.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] prepare questionnaire for our members, about osgeo mission, goals review, ...
I didn't actually test conference events specifically, and it's only a correlation (not causation). But it would be easy to if there's a good list somewhere of events by country (might have to be by region analysis). And of course as I mentioned in the talk testing local chapter activity too. Thanks, Alex On 09/18/2014 03:44 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: Kind of wish people were thee for Alex's talk on OsGeo live metrics. We don't need to guess on the value of of local events - Alex has the numbers to show why local conferences are amazing - they motivate more downloads. I also had a talk on OSGeo as a software foundation - thanks to those who attended. These meta-talks were tricky to schedule in a conference where the value comes from using software. On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, great mails after FOSS4G. I wish, we had chance to talk about stuff openly face2face on FOSS4G, but there was no timeslot, nor members (not so many). If you agree, I (any help welcomed) volunteer for creating questionnaire (using google forms) with questions to our charter members. The results should be: * review of OSGeo goals as described on [1] * feedback from local chapters, why they need OSGeo * feedback from projects, future projects - why did they want to be osgeo project, why do they still want to remain osgeo project, why there are not so many new osgeo projects * feedback from members: why are you member, what are you expecting from osgeo * ... others ... Someone else might put it into mail in more structured way. Any agreement? Co-volunteer? Good idea? Absolutely bad idea? Jachym [1] http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/about.html -- Jachym Cepicky e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com URL: http://les-ejk.cz GPG: http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp Give your code freedom with PyWPS - http://pywps.wald.intevation.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members
I'll volunteer to start a wiki collating options for the FOSS4G future, with sections that people can add comments into. I should have something up for review and contributions within 24 hours. On 18/09/2014 7:04 PM, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote: Dear All I agree completely with Margherita. The most of people are asking themselves what it is happening. Please who was and is involved, please write the history of what has happened on a wiki page. When the plot is finalised the charter members vote. Maria Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano Public Participation GIS: a FOSS architecture enabling field-data collection http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF ISPRS WG IV/5 Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications - Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory Board Member - SIFET Scientific Commitee Member Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA) Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob.+39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321 e-mail1: mailto:maria.brove...@polimi.itmaria.brove...@polimi.it mailto:maria.brove...@polimi.it e-mail2:prorettr...@como.polimi.it mailto:prorettr...@como.polimi.it *Da:* discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org per conto di Margherita Di Leo direg...@gmail.com *Inviato:* giovedì 18 settembre 2014 10.13 *A:* Jachym Cepicky *Cc:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org; conference; osgeo-board List; Steven Feldman *Oggetto:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members Dear All, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.com mailto:jachym.cepi...@gmail.com wrote: Just noting, discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo .. or LocationTech. It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly) developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good. If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's position. If anyone is wondering why most charter members remained silent about the topic, here i can offer my 2 cents.. It is true that this is a long story, but it's hard to find all the elements needed for judgement. I'd ask those that have personally followed the steps, to kindly fill a wiki page with the most important facts. Another thing is that, for those that couldn't make it at FOSS4G, it is (I believe) not easy to understand on what exactly the community of charter members is being called to express their opinion. What does it mean to cooperate and what does it imply for the organizations involved? Is it a case by case cooperation what you're talking about? why it looks like is the FOSS4G event at stake here? Thanks for any pointers -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu mailto:margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter, Software and Data Solutions Manager LISAsoft Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Pl summarise LocationTech and OSGeo proposed collaboration
It will be clear to most charter members if some one helps summarise LocationTech and OSGeo proposed collaboration Ravi Kumar ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
