Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] points of interest database

[Raj Singh]

Oh one more note. It's a raw dump, in the custom data model I'm using for best 
performance. It's not in the draft standard available here, but that's my next 
task:
http://www.w3.org/2010/POI/documents/Core/latest

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On Jan 28, at 2:28 PM, Raj Singh  wrote:

> I've made a database dump of the OpenPOIs database available here:
> http://openpoi.ogcnetwork.net/dumps/
> 
> It's large -- 3Gb compressed, using pg_dump's custom dump format as described 
> here:
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/backup-dump.html
> 
> Let me know if you can use it. I'm sure there will be more discussion on 
> this, and to keep discussion where the most people will be interested, let's 
> communicate on this list:
> https://lists.opengeospatial.org/mailman/listinfo/openpois-users
> 
> Everyone please join us there!
> 
> ---
> Raj
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 23, at 6:06 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Raj,
>> 
>> thanks for the prompt reply!
>> if you can send me a postgres/postgis dump, this would be extremely useful! 
>> (thanks!).
>> By the way, (and this is the main reason that I address it to the list, too) 
>> do you plan to follow/adapt the corresponding W3C recommendation or do you 
>> already do that?
>> If not and if you need some involvement for the semantic part I would also 
>> be happy to participate.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Dimitris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Raj Singh wrote:
>>> Hi Dimitris. I'm the host/developer of OpenPOIs from OGC. Right now 
>>> OpenPOIs is an aggregation of Geonames and DBPedia information. I'll soon 
>>> be adding OpenStreetMap POIs to the mix, but that won't be complete for a 
>>> few months. I'm also experimenting with a write API that will allow content 
>>> providers to add to the database. That should be ready in a few weeks. I'd 
>>> be happy to get you a postgresql/postgis database dump at any time if that 
>>> would be useful.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Raj Singh
>>> r...@rajsingh.org
>>> http://www.rajsingh.org/
>>> 
>>> On Jan 22, at 11:56 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking for a points of interest database (regardless of format, I 
>>>> use database in a loose term here) that is licensed under one of the open 
>>>> source/data/creative commons licenses.
>>>> I know of course about open street maps and their layer of POIs and the 
>>>> one from OGC (http://openpoidb.ogcnetwork.net/).
>>>> Is there anything else available out there? :)
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks in advance for the help and I do apologize since I am sure 
>>>> that this is a recurring question,
>>>> 
>>>> Dimitris
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>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] points of interest database

[Raj Singh]

I've made a database dump of the OpenPOIs database available here:
http://openpoi.ogcnetwork.net/dumps/

It's large -- 3Gb compressed, using pg_dump's custom dump format as described 
here:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/backup-dump.html

Let me know if you can use it. I'm sure there will be more discussion on this, 
and to keep discussion where the most people will be interested, let's 
communicate on this list:
https://lists.opengeospatial.org/mailman/listinfo/openpois-users

Everyone please join us there!

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On Jan 23, at 6:06 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos  wrote:

> Hi Raj,
> 
> thanks for the prompt reply!
> if you can send me a postgres/postgis dump, this would be extremely useful! 
> (thanks!).
> By the way, (and this is the main reason that I address it to the list, too) 
> do you plan to follow/adapt the corresponding W3C recommendation or do you 
> already do that?
> If not and if you need some involvement for the semantic part I would also be 
> happy to participate.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Dimitris
> 
> 
> 
> Raj Singh wrote:
>> Hi Dimitris. I'm the host/developer of OpenPOIs from OGC. Right now OpenPOIs 
>> is an aggregation of Geonames and DBPedia information. I'll soon be adding 
>> OpenStreetMap POIs to the mix, but that won't be complete for a few months. 
>> I'm also experimenting with a write API that will allow content providers to 
>> add to the database. That should be ready in a few weeks. I'd be happy to 
>> get you a postgresql/postgis database dump at any time if that would be 
>> useful.
>> 
>> ---
>> Raj Singh
>> r...@rajsingh.org
>> http://www.rajsingh.org/
>> 
>> On Jan 22, at 11:56 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a points of interest database (regardless of format, I use 
>>> database in a loose term here) that is licensed under one of the open 
>>> source/data/creative commons licenses.
>>> I know of course about open street maps and their layer of POIs and the one 
>>> from OGC (http://openpoidb.ogcnetwork.net/).
>>> Is there anything else available out there? :)
>>> 
>>> Many thanks in advance for the help and I do apologize since I am sure that 
>>> this is a recurring question,
>>> 
>>> Dimitris
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>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] points of interest database

[Raj Singh]

I do follow the draft W3C spec in terms of the data model and XML encoding. We 
never got to the JSON and RDF encodings as the effort stalled in W3C. 

In OGC we're starting a group to create a standard for the data model, XML and 
JSON encoding. That list will be private to OGC members as it will be a SWG. 
We'll keep people updated here as well. 

The RDF and Microdata work is going to continue in a W3C community group:
http://www.w3.org/community/places/
We can talk semantics there!

I don't know how big the database dump will be. Hopefully I can get that posted 
in a day or two.

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On Jan 23, at 6:06 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos  wrote:

> Hi Raj,
> 
> thanks for the prompt reply!
> if you can send me a postgres/postgis dump, this would be extremely useful! 
> (thanks!).
> By the way, (and this is the main reason that I address it to the list, too) 
> do you plan to follow/adapt the corresponding W3C recommendation or do you 
> already do that?
> If not and if you need some involvement for the semantic part I would also be 
> happy to participate.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Dimitris
> 
> 
> 
> Raj Singh wrote:
>> Hi Dimitris. I'm the host/developer of OpenPOIs from OGC. Right now OpenPOIs 
>> is an aggregation of Geonames and DBPedia information. I'll soon be adding 
>> OpenStreetMap POIs to the mix, but that won't be complete for a few months. 
>> I'm also experimenting with a write API that will allow content providers to 
>> add to the database. That should be ready in a few weeks. I'd be happy to 
>> get you a postgresql/postgis database dump at any time if that would be 
>> useful.
>> 
>> ---
>> Raj Singh
>> r...@rajsingh.org
>> http://www.rajsingh.org/
>> 
>> On Jan 22, at 11:56 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a points of interest database (regardless of format, I use 
>>> database in a loose term here) that is licensed under one of the open 
>>> source/data/creative commons licenses.
>>> I know of course about open street maps and their layer of POIs and the one 
>>> from OGC (http://openpoidb.ogcnetwork.net/).
>>> Is there anything else available out there? :)
>>> 
>>> Many thanks in advance for the help and I do apologize since I am sure that 
>>> this is a recurring question,
>>> 
>>> Dimitris
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>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] points of interest database

[Raj Singh]

Hi Dimitris. I'm the host/developer of OpenPOIs from OGC. Right now OpenPOIs is 
an aggregation of Geonames and DBPedia information. I'll soon be adding 
OpenStreetMap POIs to the mix, but that won't be complete for a few months. I'm 
also experimenting with a write API that will allow content providers to add to 
the database. That should be ready in a few weeks. I'd be happy to get you a 
postgresql/postgis database dump at any time if that would be useful.

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http://www.rajsingh.org/

On Jan 22, at 11:56 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos  wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I am looking for a points of interest database (regardless of format, I use 
> database in a loose term here) that is licensed under one of the open 
> source/data/creative commons licenses.
> I know of course about open street maps and their layer of POIs and the one 
> from OGC (http://openpoidb.ogcnetwork.net/).
> Is there anything else available out there? :)
> 
> Many thanks in advance for the help and I do apologize since I am sure that 
> this is a recurring question,
> 
> Dimitris
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] pycsw Receives OGC Compliance Certification and Reference Implementation Status

[Raj Singh]

Andrea, the RI policies have changed a bit in the last few years so it's worth 
taking a read through that new policy document and/or contacting Luis at OGC 
for clarification.
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On Jan 15, at 4:33 AM, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:

>> Wondering, what steps did you follow to have pycsw also become a reference
>> implementation?
>> I thought the RI where chosen only while developing the CITE tests for a
>> particular standard, but the CSW 2.0.2 tests
>> have been out for a while
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>> 
> 
> Thank you Andrea :)
> 
> We contacted OGC about compliance testing and we followed the documented 
> procedures:
> http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=49237
> 
> Regarding RI, I am not aware of such time limitation during CITE test 
> development.
> On our side what we did was ask kindly to get a review of the project and the 
> source code in order to be considered for RI.
> I do not know what internal processes of OGC were triggered from this, but it 
> seems we did well on our review.
> 
> Cheers,
> Angelos

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open source map server

[Raj Singh]

SLD is Styled Layer Descriptor:
http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/sld

"defines an encoding that extends the WMS standard to allow user-defined 
symbolization and coloring of geographic feature and coverage data. SLD 
addresses the need for users and software to be able to control the visual 
portrayal of the geospatial data. The ability to define styling rules requires 
a styling language that the client and server can both understand"

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On Aug 4, at 5:46 AM, del cadarn wrote:

> Forgive my ignorance but a few of you mention SLD editor... What does that 
> mean?
> 
>   Merci,
> 
>   D
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapQuery 0.1.0 released

[Raj Singh]

Thanks. Sounds like a great addition to the web mapping universe. Attracting 
more traditional web developers is a noble endeavor!
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On Jul 29, at 12:47 PM, Steven Ottens wrote:

> Hi Raj,
> 
> MapQuery formally extends OpenLayers, it is similar in concept as GeoExt, but 
> uses jQuery instead of Ext. The idea is to create a jQuery-style webmapping 
> library which wraps around OpenLayers and extends it with functionality like 
> layer managers, datagrids (NYI), legends etc. We try to make it easy to 
> create a webmap-application with OpenLayers, without having to know all that 
> OpenLayers has to offer. 
> We aim at jQuery developers more than on people who are already well-versed 
> in OpenLayers. As such we will provide a few simple functions which (we 
> think) will be enough for 90% of the use-cases. The other 10% is not actively 
> pursued, though one could directly access OpenLayers and do some of the 
> advanced stuff we're not providing. 
> 
> Steven 
> 
> 
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Raj Singh wrote:
> 
>> What does MapQuery do beyond what OpenLayers does? Does MapQuery formally 
>> extend OpenLayers? In other words, does MapQuery include OpenLayers, but 
>> provide an interface familiar to jQuery developers, or was OpenLayers simply 
>> informal inspiration? 
>> 
>> ---
>> Raj
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 28, at 3:56 PM, Steven Ottens wrote:
>> 
>>> MapQuery 0.1 released
>>> 
>>> The MapQuery Community is happy to announce the first release of
>>> MapQuery: v0.1.
>>> 
>>> MapQuery, formerly known as GeoJQuery, has been an idea for several
>>> years and now, with this first release, it is an actual product you can
>>> use. We would like to thank Geodan for hosting the codesprint that
>>> kickstarted this release. We would also like to thank the communities of
>>> OpenLayers, jQuery and GeoExt for inspiration, answers, software and
>>> general awesomeness.
>>> 
>>> Release details
>>> 
>>> Download the zip file here, unzip it get the dependencies with the 
>>> /lib/getdeps.sh script and check out the demos.
>>> To get involved you can:
>>> 
>>>  * fork MapQuery from GitHub 
>>>  * join the mailinglist
>>>  * file issues 
>>>  * hang out on IRC 
>>>  * join the foss4g codesprint
>>> 
>>> About MapQuery
>>> 
>>> MapQuery is a pure javascript based library which builds upon
>>> OpenLayers, jQuery and jQuery UI to provide an easy to use webmapping
>>> library. It is meant for jQuery application developers who want to build
>>> Rich Internet Applications (RIAs) with maps. Currently it provides a few
>>> basic widgets to create functionality around a map and an easy API to
>>> write your own widgets.
>>> 
>>> The first release includes:
>>> -the main map widget
>>> -FeatureInfo widget
>>> -LayerManager widget
>>> -MousePosition widget
>>> -OverviewMap widget
>>> -Popup widget
>>> -ZoomButtons widget
>>> -ZoomSlider widget
>>> 
>>> For more information see the website: http://mapquery.org
>>> 
>>> Have fun!
>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapQuery 0.1.0 released

[Raj Singh]

What does MapQuery do beyond what OpenLayers does? Does MapQuery formally 
extend OpenLayers? In other words, does MapQuery include OpenLayers, but 
provide an interface familiar to jQuery developers, or was OpenLayers simply 
informal inspiration? 

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On Jul 28, at 3:56 PM, Steven Ottens wrote:

> MapQuery 0.1 released
> 
> The MapQuery Community is happy to announce the first release of
> MapQuery: v0.1.
> 
> MapQuery, formerly known as GeoJQuery, has been an idea for several
> years and now, with this first release, it is an actual product you can
> use. We would like to thank Geodan for hosting the codesprint that
> kickstarted this release. We would also like to thank the communities of
> OpenLayers, jQuery and GeoExt for inspiration, answers, software and
> general awesomeness.
> 
> Release details
> 
> Download the zip file here, unzip it get the dependencies with the 
> /lib/getdeps.sh script and check out the demos.
> To get involved you can:
> 
>* fork MapQuery from GitHub 
>* join the mailinglist
>* file issues 
>* hang out on IRC 
>* join the foss4g codesprint
> 
> About MapQuery
> 
> MapQuery is a pure javascript based library which builds upon
> OpenLayers, jQuery and jQuery UI to provide an easy to use webmapping
> library. It is meant for jQuery application developers who want to build
> Rich Internet Applications (RIAs) with maps. Currently it provides a few
> basic widgets to create functionality around a map and an easy API to
> write your own widgets.
> 
> The first release includes:
> -the main map widget
> -FeatureInfo widget
> -LayerManager widget
> -MousePosition widget
> -OverviewMap widget
> -Popup widget
> -ZoomButtons widget
> -ZoomSlider widget
> 
> For more information see the website: http://mapquery.org
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> The MapQuery team
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Booth at FOSS4G...

[Raj Singh]

Hi Tyler. I'm interested in having OGC share a booth with OSGeo, basically just 
as a place to meet people and hand out pamphlets. I'd be willing to man the 
booth and talk OSGeo in exchange!

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On Jun 29, at 8:19 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote:

> Hi all, it's that time of year to think more about what we want the OSGeo 
> booth to look like at FOSS4G.  In the past it has served as a meeting place 
> and key location for helping connect people with projects and their teams, 
> etc.  Think back to the last booth you may have seen and share your thoughts 
> for what would make it even better.  We have a nice central location with a 
> fair bit of room.
> 
> Also, if you are interested in helping run the booth, even if just for an 
> hour or two, let me know.  I usually coordinate the booth, but since I won't 
> be able to attend this year (new baby coming at same time!), I'd love to work 
> with others to line up handling the booth.  
> 
> Any thoughts or ideas?  Share them 
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2011_OSGeo_Booth
> 
> Tyler
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Using an OSGeo membership to work at the OGC

[Raj Singh]

Within OGC staff we're looking to publish TC meeting summaries more publicly 
and in an easy to digest format -- like a blog. So stay tuned!
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On Apr 15, at 7:17 AM, Adrian Custer wrote:

> During the closing pleneray of every TC meeting (every 3 months), each 
> working group or ad-hoc meeting reports back and tells everyone where things 
> stand. Those could form the basis of some report or some such.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Using an OSGeo membership to work at the OGC

[Raj Singh]

I don't know what the guidelines are from the OSGeo side, but from the OGC side 
(as Jody mentioned) the primary guideline is that you can't be an employee of 
an organization that could get OGC membership the usual way. These OSGeo 
memberships are intended to accommodate the ad hoc nature of open source 
project teams and individuals, and give them a "seat at the table".

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On Apr 15, at 5:34 AM, Adrian Custer wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> In reviewing Arnulf's recent white paper, I was reminded that OSGeo has 
> various memberships to the OGC. Since I am in need of re-joining the OGC as 
> an individual member, I might be in a position to use such a membership.
> 
> Do we have any guidelines on how these memberships are to be used? 
> Specifically, if I were to use one of them would I need to 'represent' the 
> OSGeo membership in some way (which I would find hard since I have always 
> been on the margins of OSGeo) or could I continue to represent the 'free 
> software community' as I feel I already do quite a bit at the OGC? Are there 
> any other responsiblities that using one of those memberships would bring, 
> such as reporting back to OSGeo in some way?
> 
> More practically, how would one go about requesting such a membership?
> 
> And finally, is anyone actually invested in any of these memberships yet?
> 
> 
> Thanks for any information or pointers,
>  ~adrian
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Summary: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

[Raj Singh]

I've loved YQL in demos. But Yahoo doesn't seem to get any buzz around their 
geo stuff. They have a lot of cool stuff, but it's so fragmented and I can 
never tell if it will grow, mature and/or play nice with other apps. Does 
anyone have a better feeling about Yahoo's services and strategy?
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On Oct 7, at 3:46 PM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote:

> On 6 October 2010 18:02, Raj Singh  wrote:
>> I think that's the most sensible idea. Geonames seems to be the gold 
>> standard right now.
>> ---
>> Raj
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> sorry to be late to this geowanking but what about the geoplanet
> database from yahoo? It's a hierarchical database of place names with
> aliases. Taking your example, and using a GUI for this database, take
> a look on [1] to see a nice representation of the graph neighbours of
> your Stockton town (witch has the unique WOEID #2500105).
> 
> And using Yahoo Query Language you can create a sentence and get
> parents on the geoplanet database for Stockton in XML or JSON[2].
> 
> Thanks to YQL you can do some work on geoplanet without needing an AppId.
> 
> Best
> 
> [1] http://isithackday.com/geoplanet-explorer/index.php?woeid=2500105
> [2] http://y.ahoo.it/YGCu+wNR
> 
> -- 
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> Ingeniero en Geodesia y Cartografía
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Summary: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

[Raj Singh]

I think that's the most sensible idea. Geonames seems to be the gold standard 
right now.
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On Oct 6, at 11:21 AM, Landon Blake wrote:

> Thanks for all of the responses.
> 
> After some careful consideration of the responses I received I realize
> the challenges of trying to get real world features into the type of
> hierarchy I derive.
> 
> I'm going to check out the system Geonames is using with RDFa. I think I
> might be able to use their technique for uniquely identifying places.
> 
> Thank you again for your help.
> 
> Landon
> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Allan Doyle
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 7:40 AM
> To: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent
> URLs
> 
> 
> On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Bob Basques wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I'm a long time address database creation/maintenance/re-creation
> fiend myself.
>> 
>> I've also been working with the USNG (MGRS) gridding system the last
> few years, and need to at least suggest the idea of 
>> using a Gridding system to locate things.  This idea is not nbew, but
> USNG usage has gained quite a bit of ground the 
>> last couple of years across all level of government, with a large
> emphasis placed on using it for disaster response.
>> 
>> Tying a placeName to a grid location that can describe things down to
> the centimeter if needed and still stay unique as 
>> a location is a very good thing.
> 
> Don't be too sure at the centimeter level.
> 
> "The average rate of motion across the San Andreas Fault Zone during the
> past 3 million years is 56 mm/yr (2 in/yr). " --
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/facts.php
> 
> I like Chris Schmidt's quote: "The world is fuzzier than you realize".
> 
>   Allan
> 
> 
>> 
>> bobb
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/5/2010 8:52 PM, Landon Blake wrote:
>>> The geonames ontology looks like it might work for me. I'll read it
> over tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>> 
>>> Landon
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:45 PM, "Ian Turton"  wrote:
>>> 
 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Christopher Schmidt
   wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 05:18:47PM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>> "All attempts to construct simple ontologies end up reinventing
> RDF" . ?
> That was actually my first thought when I saw this: "Hey look,
> someone else reinventing RDFa!" :)
> 
> Seriously, I say this with a bit of knowledge; I mean, after all,
> I sort of work on making places searchable on maps. For a company
> with a pretty big set of data about the hierarchy of the world.
> It's a lot fuzzier than you think :)
> 
> Also, Landon, I do highly recommend looking into RDF --
> specifically,
> RDFa -- because I think it's heading in a very similar direction to
> what you're describing, without the need for some
> all-world-hierarchy
> to tie it to, which might actually help you get a bit further.
 
 You might want to look at http://www.geonames.org/ontology/ which
> RDFs
 the GeoNames database.
 
 Ian
 -- 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: "git" like for geodata management [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Raj Singh]

Arnulf, that's exactly what the OGC Geosynchronization spec describes! Servers 
advertise their changes in a GeoRSS feed -- where the  element 
describes the change in WFS-T XML. It's nicely loosely coupled, because as you 
eloquently state, clients can decide what they want to do with the "suggested" 
modifications, accept them all, just use those in a certain area, or those from 
a "trusted" agency, etc.

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On Sep 24, at 4:08 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:

> This might be too far off the original idea... But: It might be interesting 
> to look into a more disconnected way of "managing" geospatial data with the 
> Web. As in having "servers" advertize latest changes in geometry and 
> attributes using GeoRSS and "clients" picking these up and integrating them 
> (potentially including processing, changes) into their "cache" or "copy" of 
> the data. Which might automagically turn into a "server" itself advertizing 
> changes following the same pattern. This idea grew on me over the past years 
> after seeing Ward Cunningham give his presentation at Wikimania 2005 in 
> Fankfurt on bits of information floating around the Web [1]. Maybe now the 
> time is ready to implement some of these thoughts in our domain.
> 
> I am currently seeding these ideas to the European National Mapping Agencies 
> through the ESDIN project. Yes I know, it sounds a bit remote but hey, it is 
> a nice vision... :-)
> 
> Have fun,
> Arnulf.
> 
> [1] Slides: http://c2.com/doc/wikimania/
> Screener: http://www.archive.org/details/WIKIMANIA_TAPE_019_SCREENER.mov
> Low res video runs 30 minutes
> 
> 
> On 09/24/2010 01:40 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>> Ragi,
>> 
>> I agree. I think that we have a way to go yet to have something
>> comparable to the ArcSDE / ArcGIS Multi-versioning and version conflict
>> detection functionality.
>> 
>> The advantage that the ArcSDE solution has is that edits are made
>> directly within the database. This works well within an Enterprise
>> environment as described by Fabio earlier in this thread.
>> 
>> I may be wrong, but I think that git works on files, but I haven’t used
>> it myself. Can git detect changes to the spatial representation of a
>> feature within a binary file?
>> 
>> Also, speaking as someone who implemented an ArcSDE/ArcGIS
>> Multi-versioned edit scenario several years ago, the ESRI solution is
>> far from perfect. It imposes very strict environment management on the
>> system managers, e.g.:
>> 
>>* All versions of the software used (client and server) must be at
>>  precisely the same version, service pack and patch;
>>* The environment can only use software that implements the
>>  ArcObjects environment (from experience, this rules out the use of
>>  the ArcSDE Java and C API’s);
>>* Editors must be well trained and knowledgeable in using both
>>  ArcGIS and Multi-versioned processes;
>>* The Organisation needs to think through their maintenance
>>  processes to get best advantage of the functionality; and
>>* It doesn’t remove the need for data maintenance people to talk to
>>  each other about work that is going on, as the software cannot
>>  resolve all conflicts. For example, if two editors make changes to
>>  the spatial representation of a feature, which one is correct? The
>>  software will detect the conflict, but the editors (or their
>>  managers) will need to resolve the issue of which version of the
>>  feature’s spatial representation is correct.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 
>> 
>> On 24/09/10 4:05 AM, "Ragi Burhum"  wrote:
>> 
>>Hi Noli,
>> 
>>thanks for the link. That is definitely a step in the right
>>direction, but it is hardly comparable to git ArcSDE versioning at that.
>> 
>>The article and sample code you describe above generates hashes for
>>all rows and tables in the db and compares them to the target db. So
>>1 million rows in a db, regardless if the two dbs are identical,
>>would cause 1 million hashes to go over the wire. Every single time
>>you ask to sync you pay the price.
>> 
>>Git and ArcSDE keep track of changesets, and when it is time to
>>synchronize, they exchange that changeset and apply it. One insert?
>>That is all that needs to be sent.
>> 
>>Another issue is that there is nothing about conflict resolution
>>there (what happens when you delete one row in one db and modify it
>>in another one?). There is also the problem of allowing multiple
>>versions of the data in the same db (Like having multiple heads).
>> 
>>Regardless, thank you for the link,
>> 
>>- Ragi
>> 
>> 
>>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:22:17 +1000
>>From: Noli Sicad 
>>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: "git" like for geodata management
>>To: OSGeo Discussions 
>>Message-ID:
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>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> 
>>PostgreSQL Synchronization Tool --- psync [1]
>> 
>>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "git" like for geodata management

[Raj Singh]

Just to add another option to the discussion, OGC has a Geosynchronization 
specification getting close to being finalize. It uses XML requests from the 
Web Feature Service - Transactional spec to describe actions on a spatial 
database such as add, modify, delete. Like CouchDB, it also doesn't specify 
what to do about conflict resolution. This has to be done with your software 
smarts.

OGC® Loosely Coupled Synchronization of Geographic Databases in the Canadian 
Geospatial Data Infrastructure Pilot
http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=26609

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On Sep 20, at 7:46 PM, Volker Mische wrote:

> On 20.09.2010 11:48, maning sambale wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just something for brainstorming.
>> 
>> Use case:
>> 1. I get a subset of the data for field work for a couple of days.
>> Coming back from field work, I "sync" the edits to the main data
>> server.  An application takes care of the merge like git does.
>> 
>> 2. Two field workers, edit the same data on a different area.  An
>> application manages the conflict before merging to main data server.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> for the sync part you should have a look at CouchDB [1]. Though it doesn't do 
> the hard part of resolving conflicts. This part would need to be coded.
> 
> [1] http://couchdb.apache.org/
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source OGC Sensor Web Enablementimplementations [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Raj Singh]

Yes this listing is self-service, so we depend on the developers and companies 
to keep their listings up-to-date.
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On Aug 4, at 2:21 AM, Rafal Wawer wrote:

> BTW.
> The info on some of the OSGeo tools at OGC standards' implementation 
> inventory weren't updated since several years - UMN MapServer for example is 
> listed with version 4.2 (2004)...
> 
> Best regards:
> RAf
> 
> Dr. Rafal Wawer
> Department of Soil Science Erosion COntrol and Land Protection
> The Institute of Soil Science and Plant Cultivation - State Research Institute
> ul. Czartoryskich 8
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> Poland
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> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Raj Singh" 
> To: "OSGeo Discussions" 
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source OGC Sensor Web 
> Enablementimplementations [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> 
> 
> I encourage everyone to register their implementations at:
> http://www.opengeospatial.org/resource
> 
> You can find all implementations registered with OGC by going to:
> http://www.opengeospatial.org/resource/products/byspec
> and selecting, for example, "Sensor Observation Service v.1.0.0" from the 
> drop-down.
> 
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> 
> On Jul 23, at 10:30 AM, Kralidis,Tom [Ontario] wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
>>> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Bannerman
>>> Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 01:09
>>> To: OSGeo Discussions
>>> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source OGC Sensor Web
>>> Enablement implementations [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to get an understanding of which FOSS4G projects
>>> are currently (or are planning to) support OGC Observations
>>> and Measurements as well as other OGC Sensor Web Enablement
>>> related standards.
>>> 
>>> We see this as a strategic direction that we'll need to explore.
>>> 
>>> Can you please reply to the list with urls to your documentation?
>>> 
>> 
>> MapServer (SOS 1.0.0 server):
>> http://www.mapserver.org/ogc/sos_server.html
>> 
>> OWSLib (SOS 1.0.0 client - not mature):
>> http://trac.gispython.org/lab/browser/OWSLib/trunk/owslib/sos.py
>> 
>> 52north implementations: http://52north.org/SensorWeb/
>> 
>> OpenLayers client: http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/sos.html
>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OGC + OSGeo > CSS Standards Problem?

[Raj Singh]

OGC always takes a "survival of the fittest" approach to technology strategies. 
So if a large enough community desires CSS based map styling, it would 
certainly be considered by OGC for standardization. The way to insert this 
approach into the OGC process is to write a "discussion paper", which would be 
a full description of the styling syntax. I would be happy to help with the 
appropriate formatting if someone produced the raw content.

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On Apr 8, at 3:26 PM, Chris Holmes wrote:

> The three approaches, for reference:
> 
> http://teczno.com/cascadenik/doc/
> http://wiki.cartagen.org/wiki/show/GssUsage
> http://docs.geoserver.org/2.0.x/en/user/community/css/tutorial.html
> 
> A standard for these would be awesome.
> 
> On 4/8/10 2:47 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>> How about a test case to see if things can get better? There's now
>> three extant approaches for doing map styling as CSS, here's the
>> latest:
>> 
>> http://blog.geoserver.org/2010/04/05/styling-geoserver-layers-with-css/
>> 
>> All the implementors so far are open source. Standardizing this could
>> be a big win to a lot of folks. How can OGC help?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source OGC Sensor Web Enablement implementations [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Raj Singh]

I encourage everyone to register their implementations at:
http://www.opengeospatial.org/resource

You can find all implementations registered with OGC by going to:
http://www.opengeospatial.org/resource/products/byspec
and selecting, for example, "Sensor Observation Service v.1.0.0" from the 
drop-down.

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On Jul 23, at 10:30 AM, Kralidis,Tom [Ontario] wrote:

> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
>> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Bannerman
>> Sent: Friday, 23 July 2010 01:09
>> To: OSGeo Discussions
>> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source OGC Sensor Web 
>> Enablement implementations [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>> 
>> I'm trying to get an understanding of which FOSS4G projects 
>> are currently (or are planning to) support OGC Observations 
>> and Measurements as well as other OGC Sensor Web Enablement 
>> related standards.
>> 
>> We see this as a strategic direction that we'll need to explore.
>> 
>> Can you please reply to the list with urls to your documentation?
>> 
> 
> MapServer (SOS 1.0.0 server):
> http://www.mapserver.org/ogc/sos_server.html
> 
> OWSLib (SOS 1.0.0 client - not mature):
> http://trac.gispython.org/lab/browser/OWSLib/trunk/owslib/sos.py
> 
> 52north implementations: http://52north.org/SensorWeb/
> 
> OpenLayers client: http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/sos.html
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] displaying complex GML in web-based enviroment ?

[Raj Singh]

Let me add that recently I've tried accessing WFS 1.1.0 services using uDig, 
QGIS, and gvGIS. Varying results, but none of them ever showed me data.
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On Jun 15, at 11:06 AM, Stefan Steiniger wrote:

> not sure - but I know deegree was always quite up to date with the standards.
> but if it does 3.1.1?
> 
> http://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/deegree3/HowToWorkWithGML
> the text in the page mentions version 3.1
> 
> stefan
> 
> Raj Singh schrieb:
>> I would love to know this too!
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>> On Jun 15, at 10:00 AM, andrea giacomelli wrote:
>>> Hi - I received a request from a team who is not (yet) on the discussion 
>>> list
>>> 
>>> --
>>> ...We are looking for free/open source package which can display
>>> complex GML 3.1.1 features in a web based environment, and supports
>>> both WFS and WMS
>>> --
>>> 
>>> TIA for any feedback
>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] displaying complex GML in web-based enviroment ?

[Raj Singh]

Deegree has always been a services stack in the past (Chris, are you thinking 
of uDig?). It looks like they are planning to have a desktop UI in deegree3, 
but it doesn't exist yet.
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On Jun 15, at 11:24 AM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 09:06:59AM -0600, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
>> not sure - but I know deegree was always quite up to date with the  
>> standards.
>> but if it does 3.1.1?
>> 
>> http://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/deegree3/HowToWorkWithGML
>> the text in the page mentions version 3.1
> 
> This doesn't look like a 'web based environment'? I thought deegree
> was a desktop app.
> 
> I expect OpenLayers is probably the closest thing, but handling
> 'complex GML 3.1.1 features' sounds like you're working with a 
> custom handler of some kind; isn't the whole point of 'complex
> features' that they are combining app-specific data/formatting,
> etc. into the GML? Or perhaps 'complex' means something different
> in this case?
> 
> -- Chris
> 
>> stefan
>> 
>> Raj Singh schrieb:
>>> I would love to know this too!
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 15, at 10:00 AM, andrea giacomelli wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi - I received a request from a team who is not (yet) on the discussion 
>>>> list
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> ...We are looking for free/open source package which can display
>>>> complex GML 3.1.1 features in a web based environment, and supports
>>>> both WFS and WMS
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> TIA for any feedback
>>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] displaying complex GML in web-based enviroment ?

[Raj Singh]

I would love to know this too!
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On Jun 15, at 10:00 AM, andrea giacomelli wrote:

> Hi - I received a request from a team who is not (yet) on the discussion list
> 
> --
> ...We are looking for free/open source package which can display
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> both WFS and WMS
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Getting a .kmz into GIS

[Raj Singh]

Looks to me like the PNGs referenced in the KML are 2 logos and a small image 
preview icon. 
The actual image file seems to be called 20100614151937_Envisat_VV.tif, but I 
can't figure out the full web URL.
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On Jun 14, at 9:29 AM, Tim Waters wrote:

> Hi Ezra,
> 
> looking inside the kmz file,
> http://www.cstars.miami.edu/media/20100613_Envisat_PM.kmz
> 
> It appears that the image is actually a PNG file. The kml file
> references this as a groundOverlay with bounds: for example:
> 32.4216794699724
> 23.59737906433506
> -84.32169599536186
> -90.33200805674051
> 
> Using this information it should be possible to view it in most GIS
> systems, or at least to convert it to a GeoTIFF using GDAL perhaps.
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Tim
> 
> On 14 June 2010 14:16, Ezra Boyd  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I need help in importing or converting a .kmz file so that I can view it in
>> my GIS.
>> I work for a small environmental NGO in coastal Louisiana, and we are
>> currently assisting emergency responders tackling BP's oil spill.  One of my
>> tasks is surveillance of oil streamers and globules as they approach the
>> coast.  To help with this, I am using radar satellite imagery obtained from
>> CSTARS (https://www.cstars.miami.edu/.)
>> The website provides downloadable .kmz files.  When I open these files in an
>> GeoBrowser, I can view a georeferenced .tif image.  However, I have not
>> figured out how to get geotiff into my GIS, where I can overlay winds,
>> currents, tides, and waves to project likely movement of observed oil
>> globules.
>> I have tried exporting the image in Google Earth, Nasa Worldwind and ArcGIS
>> Explorer.  I have also tried opening the .kmz in a half dozen or so GIS
>> viewers.  I have also tried converting the file using GDAL.  I have also
>> tried changed the file extension .zip and then uncompressing it.  None of
>> these attempts have worked.
>> Please let me know if you how to extract the .tif file embedded in the .kmz.
>> Thanks,
>> Ezra
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Searching proper schema constructs in layered GML application schema

[Raj Singh]

OGC's GML discussion forum is probably the best place to ask this.
http://feature.opengeospatial.org/forumbb/viewforum.php?f=9

Staff monitors the board and tries to make sure posted questions get  
looked at by topic experts within the membership.

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On Nov 12, at 6:21 AM, Krzysztof FF wrote:



Hi there,

I'm trying to define GML 3.2.1. based application schema for FM- 
related

software.

The concept is to create some intermediate base-level schema common  
to basic
software tools (e.g. universal XSLT processing), completed with  
specific

application-level schemas presenting actual application structure.


From "GML Best Practices Guide"
(http://www.ogcnetwork.net/system/files/ 
GML_Best_Practices_Guide.pdf) it is

advised not to use "type" attribute:

quote starts
If you wish to denote distinct semantic types such as river and  
road, it is
INVALID GML to use a type attribute as shown in the following  
examples.


Example of Invalid GML Using a Type Attribute


 water
 90
  … 


You can "narrow" the type denoted by the feature type name element  
(GenericFeature>) by using qualifying properties, as shown in the  
following

example.


 Canal
 water
 90
  ... 

quote ends

But from the other hand, from "XML Schema W3C Recommendation"
(http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-0/#abstract) it results that using  
abstract

types makes constructs with "type" attribute perfectly legal:

quote starts
Declaring a type as abstract simply requires the use of a type  
derived from
it (and identified by the xsi:type attribute) in the instance  
document.


http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema";
  targetNamespace="http://cars.example.com/schema";
  xmlns:target="http://cars.example.com/schema";>

 

 
   
 
   
 

 


The transport element is not abstract, therefore it can appear in  
instance
documents. However, because its type definition is abstract, it may  
never
appear in an instance document without an  xsi:type attribute that  
refers to

a derived type. That means the following is not schema-valid:

 http://cars.example.com/schema"/>

because the transport element's type is abstract. However, the  
following is

schema-valid:

http://cars.example.com/schema";
  xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
  xsi:type="Car"/>

because it uses a non-abstract type that is substitutable for Vehicle.
quote ends

It results that using Galdos recommendation with  element is
somehow artificial and naive, disallowing for application-specific
specialization of concrete GenericFeatures.

On the other hand, W3C recommended xsi:type attribute is perfectly  
legal,

and allows using in the same time generic schema to describe specific
features.

Of course it requires further generalization by defining generic  
properties

for features in base-level schema with their concrete definitions in
application-level schema.


I wonder what is opinion of GML-gurus about proper constructs for  
layering

of GML-application schemas.


Regards,

Krzysztof
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] distributing "read-only" vector files?

[Raj Singh]

Look at the section called, "Copyright Information for use with  
Australian Bureau of Meteorology and CSIRO data"

at 
http://external.opengis.org/twiki_public/bin/view/ClimateChallenge2009/ScenarioAusBOM
for an example of how the Australian government has approached the  
situation.


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On Nov 3, at 7:58 AM, maning sambale wrote:


Before anything else, let me introduce our dilemma.  We are a
non-profit geo-research institution.  In many cases we produce
geospatial datasets no other local institution can create in my
country at the moment.  What we create are sometimes benchmark info
useful to various research and policy initiatives.  At the moment we
have two broad users the public (we provide free download of pdf maps)
and special interest group (requesting for GIS data).  We always want
our datasets to be used by other geoshop.

However, we have several concerns regarding the release of GIS data:
1.  Securing "data integrity" - once released we cannot guarantee that
the data will be distributed from other sources with
alterations/changes.  Some of this data may contain critical info that
if used (coming from altered data), our institution "might" be blamed.
2.  Ensuring corrections will be reported back to us for data  
enhancement.

3. Ensuring non-commercial use of the data

I'm sure these concerns are not unique to us but also common to other
institutions.  I am hoping we can discuss options on how we can
resolve the above concerns in areas both technical and institutional
policy.

Any ideas?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Options for sharing geodata symbology along with WFS?

[Raj Singh]

Good points, Jody.
---
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On Aug 14, at 11:36 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:

I will also point out that SLD 1.0 has been split into two in order  
to make this more clear ..


SLD 1.1 really focuses on the WMS intergration
SE 1.1 isolates the information you need about styling and is much  
more clearly applicable to defining *just* styles


The link for Symbology Encoding is:
- http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/symbol

The symbology encoding document does not really define any new  
concepts; it is just one document being broken into two ...

Jody

On 15/08/2009, at 4:52 AM, Raj Singh wrote:

SLD is usually thought of in conjunction with WMS because you don't  
see the effect of the styling until you make a map. But it  
certainly applies to WFS just as well in a situation like Chris  
mentions with Openlayers, where the client software is doing the  
portrayal.


In addition to this:
Styled Layer Descriptor
http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/sld

you will also want to look at this:
Feature Styling IPR version 0.4.1 found at:
http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/dp

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On Aug 14, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:22:51PM -0400, Alexandre Leroux wrote:


Hi,

Thanks Christopher for your answer. A colleague excluded SLD by  
telling
us it only applies to WMS, which, based on your comment, isn't  
true. The
OGC website isn't clear on this (I guess we should read deeper).  
This

would enable us to generate SLDs with uDig :-)


SLD is a language; at least some non-WMS tools can read SLD, and  
style

WFS vectors according to it. (OpenLayers can do this; I'm sure that
other client software can as well.) Insofar as such a thing exists,
SLD is the primary standards based way of communicating styling
information regarding a set of data.

Some WMS servers are capable of using SLD as their style  
descriptions;

I believe both MapServer and GeoServer can do this. However, other
clients can as well.




answers! :-) To my defense for this OSGeo-unrelated question,  
we do
process and serve all the related geodata using OSGeo  
software! ;-)


Which software?


Since you're asking.. still the same project already mentioned on  
this
list: providing Canadian weather information with web maps and  
standard
web services. Our (fully working) prototypes use MapFish,  
OpenLayers

GDAL/OGR . (we also use other OSGeo software for other projects)


Hm, I guess my question was unclear; I was curious what software  
you were

using for WMS/WFS.

GeoServer uses SLD as the primary styling configuration on the  
server,

for example.



Cheers,

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Options for sharing geodata symbology along with WFS?

[Raj Singh]

SLD is usually thought of in conjunction with WMS because you don't  
see the effect of the styling until you make a map. But it certainly  
applies to WFS just as well in a situation like Chris mentions with  
Openlayers, where the client software is doing the portrayal.


In addition to this:
Styled Layer Descriptor
http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/sld

you will also want to look at this:
Feature Styling IPR version 0.4.1 found at:
http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/dp

---
Raj


On Aug 14, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:22:51PM -0400, Alexandre Leroux wrote:


Hi,

Thanks Christopher for your answer. A colleague excluded SLD by  
telling
us it only applies to WMS, which, based on your comment, isn't  
true. The

OGC website isn't clear on this (I guess we should read deeper). This
would enable us to generate SLDs with uDig :-)


SLD is a language; at least some non-WMS tools can read SLD, and style
WFS vectors according to it. (OpenLayers can do this; I'm sure that
other client software can as well.) Insofar as such a thing exists,
SLD is the primary standards based way of communicating styling
information regarding a set of data.

Some WMS servers are capable of using SLD as their style descriptions;
I believe both MapServer and GeoServer can do this. However, other
clients can as well.





answers! :-) To my defense for this OSGeo-unrelated question, we do
process and serve all the related geodata using OSGeo software! ;-)


Which software?


Since you're asking.. still the same project already mentioned on  
this
list: providing Canadian weather information with web maps and  
standard

web services. Our (fully working) prototypes use MapFish, OpenLayers
GDAL/OGR . (we also use other OSGeo software for other projects)


Hm, I guess my question was unclear; I was curious what software you  
were

using for WMS/WFS.

GeoServer uses SLD as the primary styling configuration on the server,
for example.



Cheers,

Alex
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OGC geospatial rights mgt. summit

[Raj Singh]

But OGC could, as a service to its membership, work with SC to define  
standardized classes of licenses that would help geospatial data  
publishers with their licensing needs all along the permissions  
spectrum.


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On May 30, at 4:53 PM, Ian Turton wrote:

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Landon Blake   
wrote:
How about OGC support for the Science Commons work on a "public  
domain"

or "creative commons" type license for geospatial data.



That's not going to happen. OGC has many national mapping agencies as
members and USGS and OS are never going to allow this. Plus it isn't
any of the OGC's business as to what sort of licenses are used on
data.

Ian
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[OSGeo-Discuss] The Open Indicators Consortium

[Raj Singh]

The Open Indicators Consortium

The University of Massachusetts Lowell announces the formation of a
national open source consortium to develop a new system for
integrating and visualizing neighborhood, municipal, and regional data

Project Leaders:
Georges Grinstein and William Mass, University of Massachusetts Lowell
Charlotte Kahn, The Boston Foundation

The University of Massachusetts Lowell has announced the formation of  
a national consortium dedicated to improving access to important data  
about communities and regions.  This consortium will develop a new  
open source software system for the analysis and visualization of  
economic, social, and environmental indicators at the neighborhood,  
municipal, county and regional levels.  The effort will be led by  
faculty members Georges Grinstein (Professor of Computer Science and  
Director of the Institute for Visualization and Perception Research)  
and William Mass (Director of the Center for Industrial  
Competitiveness) and by Charlotte Kahn, Director of the Boston  
Indicators Project at The Boston Foundation.  Consortium members  
include organizations from Greater Atlanta, Georgia; Metro Boston,  
Massachusetts; Columbus, Ohio; Phoenix, Arizona; Chicago, Illinois and  
New Haven, Connecticut.  Additional partners will be announced soon.
Up to ten founding members, each of which will contribute funding to  
the joint initiative, will guide development based on local  
preferences in order to achieve universally useful functionality.   
They will test progress through quarterly releases of the program,  
with the goal of establishing fully operational websites in each  
participating region by the end of 2009. In the second year of the  
program, additional features will be added, such as online networking,  
collaboration within and across regions, personalization, and user  
history.
Once complete, the open source program will be made fully available,  
with constraints only on commercial use.  Users of the new software  
will likely include researchers, planners, educators, the media, and  
the general public.
The founding members see many opportunities to use this new tool for  
complex data integration and visualization.  Michael Rich, Director of  
the Emory University’s Office of University-Community Partnerships and  
Associate Professor of Political Science, is a lead data and  
technology partner for Atlanta’s Neighborhood Nexus.  Rich is excited  
about “creating a tool that will make information about neighborhoods  
and communities available to a wide audience in an easily accessible  
format and the tremendous potential for comparative research on cities  
and neighborhoods to inform policy and evaluation.”
Joshua Connolly, Manager of Data Analysis for Arizona Indicators at  
Arizona State University’s Morrison Institute for Public Policy, looks  
forward to “filling the gap in public knowledge” so that “public  
policy decided through voter initiatives can be based on an accurate  
understanding of conditions in Arizona rather than on partisan  
positions.”
David Norris, Community Data Manager at Community Research Partners in  
Columbus Ohio, sees “the opportunity to benchmark across communities  
in ways we never could before in Central Ohio and, in the process,  
save a lot of money.”
Holly St Clair, Director of Data Services at the Boston-based  
Metropolitan Area Planning Council, notes that “efficiency and  
sustainability are key challenges facing the nation, but data centers  
are tightening their belts. This tool is a sophisticated yet cost- 
effective way to help us see how our communities are doing, despite  
the downturn.”
The product of this effort will be a high-performance, highly  
interactive software system that supports the analysis of local and  
regional datasets through a variety of visualizations such as scatter  
plots, bar or pie charts, line graphs, and multi-layered maps.  The  
software will allow multiple visualizations to be displayed  
simultaneously, and action on any visualization will automatically  
update the others allowing for quick comparisons. The system’s mapping  
capability will cover a variety of boundaries and jurisdictions,  
including parcels, census tracts, voting precincts, zip codes,  
neighborhoods, municipalities, legislative districts, and watersheds.
Simplicity, ease of use, and security are key goals for the software.   
Different configurations will be tailored for novice, intermediate and  
advanced users, and individual users will be able to further  
personalize the site.  The system will be “browser-based,” requiring  
no special software and facilitating collaboration by simultaneous  
users at different sites for joint development, technical assistance,  
and training.  It will also support voice and chat functions to enable  
collaboration.
The University of Massachusetts Lowell brings a wealth of talent to  
the task ahead, including graduate students in the departm

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Where are all the FOSS OGC Client implementations?

[Raj Singh]

Note that anyone can add to OGC's registered products listing here:
http://www.opengeospatial.org/resource/products/registration
---
Raj


On Jan 2, at 4:01 AM, Tim Sutton wrote:


Hi

On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 15:17 +0100, Miguel Montesinos wrote:

Hi Tim,

Do you mean apart from OGC Registered products [1]?


Yes I mean list FOSS products and which OGC standards they support  
(and

whether as client or server if applicable).

The list you linked to is also useful though - thanks!

Regards

Tim




Regards,

[1] http://www.opengeospatial.org/resource/products


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] georss reader

[Raj Singh]

Rome  is a Java open source library that  
reads GeoAtom (Atom + GeoRSS). More readers are talked about at 

---
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On Sep 26, at 8:36 PM, Rushforth, Peter wrote:


Hi,

Does anybody have an idea if such a thing exists?  I know I can view
georss in google maps, and from there via the maps api, as a network  
link

in google earth.

But I haven't found reference to a feed reader that supports georss.
I'm thinking about filtering feeds based on categories and  
geography, for example.


Any links or discussion welcome.

Cheers,

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Technology Advisor / Conseiller technique
GeoConnections / GéoConnexions
650-615 Booth St. / rue Booth
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Time window request on OGC protocol?

[Raj Singh]

If all you need are time and bounding box parameters, WFS Simple might  
be easier to implement than WFS:

http://www.ogcnetwork.net/wfssimple

Andrea does a good job of describing how to do a time query with WFS,  
but it requires using Filter Encoding, which is a bit heavy.


I also have just created a sourceforge site for an open source Java  
servlet implementation of WFS Simple:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplewfs/

---
Raj


On Sep 26, at 5:12 AM, Andrea Aime wrote:


Domenico Febbo ha scritto:

Hi all,
maybe it is a very newbies' question:
I need to implement a Web Service based on GML that accept a XML  
request

with two main things consist of:
1) WGS84 coordinates for a geographical area
2) the timeframe (start time and stop time) used to query to the  
geodatabase

historical data.
It was very usefull (for me) to implement a web service over the WFS
protocol or other OGC standard protol,
but I didin't found a clear solution.


WFS does not have a TIME parameter like WMS has, yet you can just
publish the time attributes as part of your feature type, and
create an OGC filter in your WFS request to filter upon them.
For the details, I suggest you have a look at the WFS 1.0  
specification

and at the Filter 1.0 specification (available at the OGC site),
they are a dry read but should allow you to setup the request you're
looking for.

Cheers
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] AAG Boston OSGeo Social Meetup

[Raj Singh]

I'll be there by 9!
---
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On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:

AAG is happening in Boston this week, and in an effort to make some
things happen, I'm planning to have a social meetup this Thursday with
anyone who is interested in coming.

Time: Thur, Apr 17th, 7:45PM
Place: Grendel's Den, Harvard Square, Cambridge
Who: Anyone interested in Open Source Geo
Why: To get together to chat socially about stuff over some beer
 and bar food.

Directions:

Get to Harvard Square. Head south on JFK street past "The Garage" on
your left. You will cross Mt. Auburn St. On the Southwest corner is a
small open green space: on the opposite corner from JFK is the  
entrance

to Grendel's, below  Upstairs on the Square.

I'll be there, hopefully by 7:30, with an eeepc and an OSgeo shirt on.

Map: http://tinyurl.com/uof38

See ya there,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: OGC WPS and Amazon SQS

[Raj Singh]

I just attended an Open Grid Forum event (http://www.ogf.org/OGF22/)  
where lat-lon and 52north showed off some very nice WPS work. OGC  
plans to work more closely with the Grid community to further improve  
our service offerings for distributed computing, but it won't be a  
quick and easy process. There's a lot of work to be done in this area.


---
Raj


On Feb 27, 2008, at 9:04 PM, Dr. Markus Lupp wrote:


Hi Randy,

deegree has a WPS implementation (although by now it supports only  
WPS v. 0.4.0). We plan to publish an easy-to-install WPS Demo  
Release for deegree 2.2, coming in June (1st Release Candidate in  
April).



Regards,

Markus



Randy George schrieb:


I noticed OGC finalized the WPS spec: 
http://www.opengeospatial.org/pressroom/pressreleases/843

Does anyone know of projects working on WPS implementations?

The goal of WPS is apparently to provide a consistent framework for  
interchangeable service process algorithms that can potentially be  
chained together into answers to higher level questions than the  
typical ‘what’, ‘when’, and ‘where.’ Dealing with ‘why’, ‘how  
much’, and ‘what if’ modeling usually requires a process pipeline  
for convolutions, boolean band operations, and summary pixel  
calculations, all of which are cpu cycle intense, especially for  
large imagery sets. In fact cpu usage issues would make the usual  
service approach prohibitive. Even the little I have worked on JAI  
pipelines shows me the futility of a one cpu to many service  
requests approach for WPS.


However, looking at the AWS Simple Queue Service, SQS http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Queue-Service-home-page/b/ref=sc_fe_l_2?ie=UTF8&node=13584001&no=3435361&me=A36L942TSJ2AJA 
 , some interesting possibilities come to mind.


Locking message queues with AMI instance pools is essentially a  
poor man’s supercomputer. It would be interesting to look at  
harnessing the utility computing concept with instance pools  
available for each stage in a process pipeline connected using the  
asynchronous SQS service. This is a more or less controlled  
‘distributed computing model’ applied to WPS.


Ref here for some examples of existing distributed computing  
projects: http://distributedcomputing.info/projects.html


Here are a couple possible approaches to a WPS service model that  
might overcome the cpu bottle neck:


1) Sequential SQS pipeline with dedicated instance for each process  
node - this would work best for operations amenable to a streaming  
pipeline – Boolean band operations or pixel summary operations for  
instance


2) Distributed computing model with a chunk server feeding a  
pipeline and an array pool of instances processing the chunks  
coming down the SQS queue – this would be better suited to tiled  
operations


WPS is great when someone else provides the service. I imagine it  
would be very interesting to the academic scientific world and  
government groups tasked with providing access to all the myriad  
imagery coming off space sensor platforms.


Just thinking out loud. More thoughts here: http://www.cadmaps.com/gisblog/?p=28

randy



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open-Source Geolocator??

[Raj Singh]

MetaCarta's Web services might do the trick. I'm not sure what the  
terms or costs are.

http://ondemand.metacarta.com

---
Raj


On Dec 15, 2007, at 7:10 PM, Ted Habermann wrote:


Hello OSGeo,

Does anyone know of an open-source or inexpensive tool that can read  
text in a bunch of files, find location names, and associate lat/ 
lons with each file?


Ted Habermann

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

[Raj Singh]

Luis, good to hear support for a GML version of Peter Vretanos' BXML.  
When we were working on the WFS Simple API last year Peter and I did  
some more work on it here:

http://www.ogcnetwork.net/node/189
(schema and examples)

I think it's slightly different (simpler and geometry harmonized with  
GeoRSS GML) than what's at http://www.cubewerx.com/web/guest/bxml, but  
the idea is the same.

---
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On Nov 17, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Luis W. Sevilla wrote:


Hi,
 +1 for GML with BXML encoding as next open standard. GML 3.* with his
ability to be 'profiled' seems to be on the base of  almost all and
every OGC norm being proposed on last 2-3 years. As Rob Atkinson  
said to

me, BXML may be an encoding for GML, in a way no standard needs to be
modifyed to support this encoding, only implementors must add  
support to it.

   At gvSIG we're currently working both on a low level library for
reading and writing GML 3.* + other GML alike formats, disacopled of
our object model, and a java port of this cubewerx BXML encoder/ 
decoder.

We hope to release early results by the end of 1st term next year.
   Maybe the way of push the standard (both OGC and ISO) it's by  
simply

implement parsers and writers, and use it a widely as possible.

   greetings
  Luis
Paul Spencer wrote:


Cubewerx created a binary XML implementation that is open source.
They claim substantial benefits, so perhaps GML plus a binary XML
library could be an alternative?

http://www.cubewerx.com/web/guest/bxml

Cheers

Paul

On 15-Nov-07, at 5:21 PM, Lucena, Ivan wrote:


Sampson,

I am not a GML guru and I don't know if a binary version exists
already, but I would imagine that HDF5 would be a excellent choice
by its own hierarchical nature. I mean, we can use GML as a schema
to store the data in binary format in the HDF5 format.

Best regards,

Ivan

Sampson, David wrote:


Alright,
Here are some other thoughts.
First off what about a open office (open base) type approach...  
This

mimmics the ESRI MSAccess approach and seams to work well for non
server
environments. Also open office is a good environment for some basic
applications.
Next, what ever happened to the adoption of GML... Was GML not
supposed
to be the NEXT interchange fomrat?  Perhaps this is a good
discussion to
include the GML gurus in. The whole discussion of going with a  
binary

GML format makes sense and GML is already used for many web mapping
(feature) services. It sounds like a duplication of GML to me...
Unless
someone can offer a direct compare and contrast between the concept
here
and the GML/Binary GML concept.
In either case being able to convert to and from GML would be a
necesity
for wide adoption IMHO.
Another thought is to encourage some of the proprietary formats to
open
up. What would it take to get ESRI on board to open up the format
(open
as in free speech). What about other non-open standards? Once it's
open
then we can bring the SHP format to modern day useage. Surely  
much of

the format could be salvaged.
Besides, if you want wide adoption of an open format then why not
go for
those players who hold greatest market share.
Some thoughts.
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Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new,  
open  data

format
So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS
data.
That it is open (albeit not Free) along with the deep and wide
presence
of ESRI's products from the beginning of the epoch, it has been   
widely

adopted. Existence of shapelib, various language bindings, and
ready use
by products such as MapServer has continued to cement Shapefile  
as  the
format to use. All this is in spite of Shapefile's inherent   
drawbacks,

particularly in the area of attribute data management.
What if we came up with a new and improved data format -- call it
"Open
Shapefile" (extension .osh) -- that would be completely Free,
single-file based (instead of the multiple .shp, .dbf, .shx, etc.),
and
based on SQLite, giving the .osh format complete relational data
handling capabilities. We would require a new version of Shapelib,
improved language bindings, make it the default and preferred
format for
MapServer, and provide seamless and painless import of regular .shp
data
into .osh for native rendering. Its adoption would be quick in the
open
source community. The non-opensource community would either not   
give a

rat's behind for it, but it wouldn't affect them...
they would still work with their preferred .shp until they learned
better. By having a completely open and Free single-file based,
built on
SQLite, fully relational dbms capable spatial data format, it  
would  be

positioned for continued improvement and development.
Is this too crazy?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geospatial Events Calendar?

[Raj Singh]

Just to add another one to the list, OGC events are listed here:
http://www.opengeospatial.org/event

There's a small link in the bottom right to the iCal URL, which is:
webcal://www.opengeospatial.org/event/ical
---
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On Oct 14, 2007, at 11:16 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Has anyone set up (and maintaining) a Geospatial Events Calendar?  
Ideally one that I can import into my Google Calendar.
It would be useful for picking future OSGeo conference dates that  
don't clash.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

[Raj Singh]

I didn't feel the activity was well enough defined. OGC has done a  
lot of these types of things, and found that they work best when the  
participants have a pressing issue to tackle. In the future, I  
suggest that the integration issue is grounded in a real-world  
problem that is relevant to some software problem participants are  
trying to solve for their users and/or clients.

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On Oct 8, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Tim Bowden wrote:


I believe the integration test bed didn't go quite as well as planned.
Any thoughts as to why, and what could be done next time to improve  
the

experience?


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO & OGC spec development

[Raj Singh]

But there is now officially an individual membership category. Info  
isn't up on the web site yet, but I think its $400/year. You can  
qualify if no one else (such as a full-time employer) has legal  
rights to all your work.

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On Jul 17, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:

That's not an option any more, only members and prospective members  
may attend TC henceforth.


Ian Turton wrote:

You could also just attend the meetings as a non-member as Paul  
Ramsey

does sometimes, or just ask some of us who do go to meetings to make
your points for you.




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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO & OGC spec development

[Raj Singh]

Also remember that OGC has made its Mass Market Working Group  
discussion list public:

http://mail.opengeospatial.org/mailman/listinfo/mass-market-geo

This is the best way for non-members to get in on certain  
discussions, particularly the ones Jeroen mentions. That allows  
individuals to put forth their opinions. A unified OSGeo opinion  
would certainly carry more weight, so I think it's valuable to move  
that discussion forward.

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On Jul 16, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:

A number of us have this same sort of conversation in the past, but  
we've never come up with anything that satisifies all concerned...  
Perhaps a BOF/Summit/Thingie at the conference in September to talk  
about this?


-mpg


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- 
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:12 PM
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Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO & OGC spec development

Hi all,
Last week I attended the Open Geospatial Consortium Technical  
Committee (OGC-TC) meeting in Paris.


For those not to familiar with this meeting, it consists of a  
series of Working Group (WG) meetings that mostly run around the  
development of specifications (or standards if you wish) dealing  
with geo-informatics. The most prominent specifications coming from  
OGC are Web Map Service (WMS), Web Feature Service (WFS) and  
Geographic Markup Language (GML). There's a whole list of other  
specs available or under development. OSGEO projects work with a  
substantial number of them. See http://www.opengeospatial org for  
more details.


With this email I would like to touch upon two issues that I think  
are relevant to OSGEO. I hope bringing this up can trigger some  
discussion on how OSGEO would best benefit from the OGC spec  
development process:


1- Discussions related to Google's KML and Web Map Context
2- Discussions related to a Tiled Web Map Service specifications

There was discussion on the possibility that KML becomes an OGC  
specification and, more importantly, that it could be used to  
replace the wining Web Map Context (WMC) specification. A number of  
OSGEO projects use the Styled Layer Descriptors (SLD (symbology))  
specification and the WMC. There's a great deal of overlap between  
these and KML. It is likely in the interest of these projects to  
share their experience with OGC and see some of that reflected in  
future OGC specs.


There was also discussion about a new Tiled WMS specification. Such  
spec can have different forms, and could be conceived as a new spec  
or as an extension (or application profile) of a Web Map Service.  
Two approaches were presented and two other approaches were  
mentioned, among which the approach taken within the OSGEO community.


Observing these discussions, my impression is that OSGEO has an  
important role to play in the further development of these OGC  
specs. We can obviously take the easy route and let OGC go its way.  
We could than come up with in-house, open specifications that will  
compete with OGC specs still under development. The development of  
the specs is likely to be quicker than going through OGC. However,  
I feel that with limited effort by the community we can have a very  
positive influence on the OGC spec development. We can make sure  
experiences in OSGEO are reflected in the OGC specs. The WMS-T is  
an obvious example of this. It was kind of frustrating to not see  
that experience properly represented at the WMS-WG.


OSGEO is very young still, so frustration is not an expression of  
dissatisfaction in this case :-) rather, I think it might be time  
to establish a way to formally represent OSGEO in OGC. This could  
be through those OSGEO members that already hold a TC level  
membership to OGC (the logical first step I would think) and later  
possibly through a direct OSGEO TC Membership to OGC. Also, we  
could consider a focal point in OSGEO where specification  
development is discussed and coordinated. This may have the form of  
a Committee for instance. I'm hesitant to propose new Committees,  
but if there's enough interest to have a central coordination point  
dealing with standards and specs, it may make sense :-)


Greetings from Rome,
Jeroen

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Software Standards - The Ugly Truth

[Raj Singh]

An angel investor is by nature too small and idiosyncratic a group to  
guarantee good results--isn't this the "benevolent dictator" argument  
? If they happen to  
be both well-meaning and right good things can happen. But there's a  
much better chance that at least one of those two conditions won't  
exist, or at least won't exist for long.

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On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:09 PM, Dave Patton wrote:


Blammo wrote:

I'm not sure what to do about the monetary aspects of the  
Standards participation.


What is needed is the equivalent of an "angel investor":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investors

By that what I mean is a corporate entity that will
step forward and setup a model where money that would
otherwise be spent on memberships in standards bodies, etc.,
is put into a business model whereby the money funds
things like infrastructure, grants to individuals or
companies to provide resources to work on reference
implementations of standards, legal fees to make sure
that nobody can monopolize the results of the process,
etc. Such corporate entities have to be forward thinking,
and can gain competitive advantages in terms of good will,
being involved with a wide spectrum of development and
intellectual talent, and maybe even attracting some
'anti-establishment types' to work for 'their team' ;-)

--
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http://www.confluence.org/

Personal website - Maps, GPS, etc.
http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Any plans for OGR fdo to support GML

[Raj Singh]

I recently had a cause to try this out. I wanted to translate GeoRSS  
GML. Turns out I couldn't do it until I changed the syntax to GML2  
format and threw some extra tags around the  element to  
make it more like a "real" piece of GML. You can grab my sample file  
from here (for a few days):

http://georss.mit.edu/basin_gml2.gml

Here's my command line run on that file:
prompt: ogrinfo basin_gml2.gml
Had to open data source read-only.
INFO: Open of `basin_gml2.gml'
  using driver `GML' successful.
1: type
2: shape

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On Jun 13, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:


Gary Morin wrote:

Hi
Any plans for the OGR FDO to support GML
I guess it may not be fast enough to used live, but it would be  
useful for odd utility.


Gary,

The FDO OGR Provider can already be built with GML support if it is
desired.  I'm not sure if it is part of the default build or not.  It
really depends on how the OGR is built.

Note, there are limitations with the OGR GML driver.  GML2 only,  
and easily

confused by complicated gml.

Best regards,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Building Floorplan

[Raj Singh]

How about Sketchup? Free but not OS. Go to File menu->3D Warehouse- 
>Get models and search for furniture.

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On May 23, 2007, at 8:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Does there exist a free application for quickly designing a building
floorplan?

One with drag-and-drop furniture, bench cabinets, plumbing etc?

Something suitable for doing the concept phase of a house renovation?

Yes, that's right, I'm thinking about putting up an extension, and
something
like this would be really useful.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ISO 19115

[Raj Singh]

In the geospatial standards community (I work for OGC), ISO 19115 is  
sort of a bible. The problem with this, and most ISO documents, is  
that it's too abstract to design software around. You generally need  
to go to another level of specificity to do real coding. For example,  
the OGC catalog work   
conforms to ISO 19115 and gets much closer to something implementable.

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On May 15, 2007, at 9:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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I noticed the existance of ISO 19115

http://www.iso.org/iso/en/CatalogueDetailPage.CatalogueDetail? 
CSNUMBER=26020&ICS1=35&ICS2=240&ICS3=70


Particularly "the cataloguing of datasets"

Has anyone read this? Is it useful?


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Use cases for FOSS-GIS in universities

[Raj Singh]

Whether commercial or open source, this technology is difficult to  
learn. I think the problem is that academia doesn't know what these  
new tools are good for. Someone mentioned the Tomlin book. It's great  
if you need to do spatial analysis for landscape ecology or urban  
planning. If you're interested in collaborative geo-information  
sharing, the new open source tools are great for this, but there is  
no curriculum or textbook to reference. Until the next Tomlin comes  
along and puts the conceptual foundation in place, I believe the  
situation Arnulf describes will persist.

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On May 13, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Arnulf Christl wrote:

Ther is absoultely no support or even requests from professors. I  
guess

this has to do with several reasons, one is not knowing how to do it
themselves, another is lack of time (turning universities into  
businesses
breaks people having time for this kind of thing), course material  
from

last millenium, etc.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for help with Where 2.0 and OGC

[Raj Singh]

I'm not sure why I just received this message dated Feb. 1, but it's  
a good time to let people know about our next call, (today for many  
of you):

Friday, April 13 at 3pm EDT
<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html? 
month=4&day=13&year=2007&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=43>

Please call: +1 512 225 3050 passcode:36429#

The idea is to showcase the software and services that us "uber" geo  
geeks are building, and make it more powerful by organizing our  
efforts around some common scenarios. Here's the latest idea on the  
scenarios we'll be exploring. Hope people can call in, and please do  
sign up for the mailing list where more discussion will happen  
<https://mail.opengeospatial.org/mailman/listinfo/mass-market-geo>.


Scenario 1: ***Business location ideas mashups***
Where should "we" put our new office? That's the question that
motivates this scenario. It's an issue that cuts across government,
commercial, and personal interests.

Locating a business brings up commercial issues such as:
- how expensive are the rents compared to other areas
- how educated is the workforce
- what are taxes like

Personal questions could be
- what's the housing market like
- what are the cultural activities
- schools, traffic, etc.

Scenario 2: ***Emergency Response***
Location is North Carolina, US, due to the wealth of data available  
via OGC services and some people working there volunteering to  
organize the effort.


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On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:


OSGeo plans to have a booth at Where 2.0, as we did last year, to  
spread

the word about Open Source solutions in the more cutting-edge geo
spaces.

This year, as part of their effort to reach out to the "mass  
market" geo

community, OGC also plans to have a significant presence at Where 2.0.
Towards this goal, they are thinking about having a demo there showing
some of the power of open standards.  For example, a demo of a  
scenario

in which their might be a catalog of services, and show how those
services can be chained together -- think a "mashup of mashups", if  
you

will, using perhaps a mix of public and private data sources.

OGC would like OSGeo to participate in putting this demo together.
While there may be some closed-source players in the mix, there is
plenty of room in there for the sorts open source solutions that our
projects provide.

On the OGC side, this is being coordinated by Raj Singh, someone  
who has

an understanding and respect for the OSGeo community and what we're
about.  Raj and I both feel this event would be a good step towards
helping OGC and OSGeo can work together in the future -- something a
number of us have talked about over the past months.

If you're interested in participating in this event, please let me  
know.
We plan have a phone conference on Feb 13th to begin to organize  
things,

and in the meantime discussions will be starting on OGC's mass-market
mailing list (open to the public,
https://mail.opengeospatial.org/mailman/listinfo/mass-market-geo).

Thanks.

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