Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-21 Thread David William Bitner
Big +1 On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Paul Ramsey wrote: > Agree w/ Daniel in all ways. We want our events to succeed, no? So we > use marketing techniques to do so. Emails and so on. And we track who > opens them so we can get better at marketing. Like any other business > trying to succeed.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-17 Thread David Bianco
ource Geo is IMHO immensely worthwhile. To do that you need to be a bit pushy while finding the right balance. >> >> Let’s applaud our advocates, conference organisers and marketeers, not moan at them >> >> Apologies if this is a bit ranty (the fi

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-17 Thread Daniel Kastl
ile finding the right balance. > > Let’s applaud our advocates, conference organisers and marketeers, not > moan at them > > Apologies if this is a bit ranty (the first draft was way more ranty) > > Peace and goodwill to everyone for the holiday season whatever your faith >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-17 Thread Jody Garnett
__ > Steven > > > On 16 Dec 2015, at 20:00, board-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: > > *From: *Paul Ramsey > *Subject: **Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o* > *Date: *16 December 2015 at 17:16:15 GMT > *To: *Daniel Morissette > *Cc: *OSGeo Di

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-17 Thread Steven Feldman
equ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: > > From: Paul Ramsey <mailto:pram...@cleverelephant.ca>> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o > Date: 16 December 2015 at 17:16:15 GMT > To: Daniel Morissette <mailto:dmorisse...@mapgears.com>> >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Jody Garnett
I can provide an update - but I am not sure what is interesting. Most of the things LocationTech does are advertised here on the discussion list (if they are an event ) or via twitter (for news ). Most communication in Locatio

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
I think there is another facet of communication that is being missed and is probably part of the current issue. I think the OSGeo member of LocationTech should also be responsible for keep the OSGeo membership more informed about what is happening between the two organizations. I think it is n

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Jody Garnett
The board is aware of public perception and I trust it will be on the agenda for f2f meeting. I think we can do a bit better than a statement - in our last board meeting Micheal Smith has volunteered to be our OSGeo representative to LocationTech. OSGeo is a member of LocationTech and we have been

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Arnulf Christl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian, Jeroen, thanks. +1 Arnulf (OSGeo President Emeritus) On 16.12.2015 14:29, Jeroen Ticheler wrote: > Thanks Ian for this email! I fully support what you are writing. It > is very much time to stop the negative sentiments around > LocationTech, FO

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Arnulf Christl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul, Daniel, thanks. +1 Arnulf (OSGeo President Emeritus) On 16.12.2015 18:16, Paul Ramsey wrote: > Agree w/ Daniel in all ways. We want our events to succeed, no? So we > use marketing techniques to do so. Emails and so on. And we track who > open

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Pat Tressel
Puneet -- > If you want to point at a company as being the Evil Empire these days, > you'd be more accurate pointing at Apple (cancelling licenses for Mac > clones, suicides at Foxconn, restrictions on getting apps on iTunes, > removing fitness tracker products from their stores because they might

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Paul Ramsey
Agree w/ Daniel in all ways. We want our events to succeed, no? So we use marketing techniques to do so. Emails and so on. And we track who opens them so we can get better at marketing. Like any other business trying to succeed. Mail chimp is currently convenient, in the past other technologies wer

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Marc Vloemans
Puneet +1 Vriendelijke groet, Marc Vloemans > Op 16 dec. 2015 om 17:56 heeft Puneet Kishor het > volgende geschreven: > > > >> On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Pat Tressel wrote: >> >> If you want to point at a company as being the Evil Empire these days, you'd >> be more accurate pointing

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Jorge Gustavo Rocha
Hi Jeroen, Thanks for your constructive message. Ian was very constructive also. Maybe I spend too much time coding and I miss a few emails. Did Jeff resign? What have we done to upset him so much? Regards, Jorge Gustavo Às 13:29 de 16-12-2015, Jeroen Ticheler escreveu: Thanks Ian for this

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Dave Patton
On 2015/12/16 07:00, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote: On 2015/12/16 18:37, Pat Tressel wrote: MailChimp is a very popular product. If you have a provable accusation against them -- that they were acting **independently of the account administrator** to alter lists, then that would be significant. As Ro

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Daniel Morissette
On 2015-12-16 10:00 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote: On 2015/12/16 18:37, Pat Tressel wrote: MailChimp is a very popular product. If you have a provable accusation against them -- that they were acting **independently of the account administrator** to alter lists, then that would be significant. As

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan
On 2015/12/16 18:37, Pat Tressel wrote: MailChimp is a very popular product. If you have a provable accusation against them -- that they were acting **independently of the account administrator** to alter lists, then that would be significant. As Rob has stated, MailChimp did not do something b

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Jeroen Ticheler
Thanks Ian for this email! I fully support what you are writing. It is very much time to stop the negative sentiments around LocationTech, FOSS4G conference offers that had LocationTech as a partner and so forth. Constructive collaboration is all we need within OSGeo AND with others in the (geo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Ian Edwards
*"there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech bashing going on"* This negative "bashing" of other organisations has to completely stop because it is having a massive negative impact on OSGeo. We've recently lost a respected former board member (who has resigned his charter member status

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Massimiliano Cannata
Pat You misunderstood or probably i didn't explained myself. I'm not against any proprietary software or company. I use google and agree to accept their term of use. I don't think there is any evil around, just people taking care of their interests. My point is that i didn't agreed to be include

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Puneet Kishor
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Pat Tressel wrote: > > If you want to point at a company as being the Evil Empire these days, you'd > be more accurate pointing at Apple (cancelling licenses for Mac clones, > suicides at Foxconn, restrictions on getting apps on iTunes, removing fitness > track

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Pat Tressel
I'm concerned about the vague accusations without evidence. They also don't seem relevant to the discussion about how one's name got on various mailing lists. I don't know if MailChimp is a "standard" for some type of companies but > certainly I don't want it to be for communicating with OSGeo co

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Massimiliano Cannata
our goals are > > - what our values are > > - and how these two compare to each other. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Gert-Jan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Van:* Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.or

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-15 Thread Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl
rds, Gert-Jan Van: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Rob Emanuele Verzonden: dinsdag 15 december 2015 21:51 Aan: David Bianco CC: OSGeo Discussions Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - SOMEONE IS WATCHING YOU :-o Hey David, The emails on the mailing li

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - SOMEONE IS WATCHING YOU :-o

2015-12-15 Thread Rob Emanuele
Hey David, The emails on the mailing list were cultivated by past FOSS4G NA attendees, people opting in in other ways, and from lists that were given by members of this and last year's committee. If we're spamming people who didn't opt in, it is not intentional and apologies for the spam (the worl

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - SOMEONE IS WATCHING YOU :-o

2015-12-15 Thread David Bianco
I believe MailChimp has policies against adding emails to your list without a user's authorization. http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/ On Tue, Dec 15, 2015, at 10:16, Rob Emanuele wrote: > Thanks for pointing out that it wasn't yet posted to OSGeo-Discuss, I > just posted it. There's a o

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - SOMEONE IS WATCHING YOU :-o

2015-12-15 Thread Rob Emanuele
Thanks for pointing out that it wasn't yet posted to OSGeo-Discuss, I just posted it. There's a one-click unsubscribe button from that mailing list, sorry for the spam! On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Massimiliano Cannata < massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote: > Just a funny note... > > Nice t

[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - SOMEONE IS WATCHING YOU :-o

2015-12-15 Thread Massimiliano Cannata
Just a funny note... Nice to see that LocationTech has a FOSS4G email ( WOW!) and. that all the link on the received e-mail are connected with my user_id (I have one? Yes) and that they are tracked (!!! without inform me !!!) and... that I have been added to a list that i'm