Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

On 2015/10/16 2:14, Massimiliano Cannata wrote: My 0.01 cent, actually I don't think we have obtained permission to use it... as nobody own it. Looking at it the other way I think it could be said that the community owns it. my 0.01 yen ...OSGeo is the expression of FOSS4G, like the PSC of a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

FOSS4G is the accepted brand in India for OSGeo India events. +1 to it's usage world wide. Ravi Kumar On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: > The foss4g brand has world wide recognition and is being used as great > outreach tool for several organizations

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

The foss4g brand has world wide recognition and is being used as great outreach tool for several organizations (often based on the region). As an organization we do not own the brand, and have obtained permission to use it (as the polite thing to do). One thing that is interesting is watching

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

My 0.01 cent, actually I don't think we have obtained permission to use it... as nobody own it. ...OSGeo is the expression of FOSS4G, like the PSC of a project is the expression of the project community... Exactly like QGIS look for creating a legal body foss4g did it in the past with OSGeo, a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

ha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> > Inviato: domenica 11 ottobre 2015 14.09 > A: discuss@lists.osgeo.org > Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G > > I think the OSGeo-Live project that you are leading can be safely > (re)-named as > FOSS4G-Live as it has a wonderful ar

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

El Martes 13. octubre 2015 09.48.11 Hans Gregers Petersen escribió: > Let us then say that FTSJ only has a byline in the: > "'The Fabulous Geo Conference' *cough cough* brought to you by FTSJ". So what would be the problem with something like «FOSS4G: The OSGeo conference»? Wouldn't that

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

+1 OSGeo is The organisation to support the collaborative development of open source geospatial software, and promote its widespread use. [1] To promote its widespread use OSGeo started, amongst other things, to organise a yearly conference. Today, there is the global conference, and a lot of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

Hi, Another reason *not* to change the name: if it is called the OSGeo conference, non-OSGeo software or companies will feel rejected and don't want to come. I find it very refresh to be able to discuss non-OSGeo but FOSS4G things in this kind of conferences. Regards, María.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

Dear all, After changing conference name, losing long-lasted brand value will be very immediate and clear. However gaining the popularity of another firm brand will take time and the effect will be vague. Sometimes branding strategy doesn’t work as we imagine in our brain. Branding is more

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

Il 12/10/2015 01:00, Cameron Shorter ha scritto: > > I suggest the OSGeo board invite the OSGeo charter members to vote on: > > /Should future FOSS4G international conferences be called:/ > /1. FOSS4G/ > /2. OSGeo Conference/ > / I think that rename the conference is the worst thing that we

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Marco Negretti wrote: > I think that rename the conference is the worst thing that we can do: > ten years of history trashed! I now regret not putting "please refrain from hyperbole" in my original posting. It's clearly not "the worst

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

I prefer to have the name FOSS4G. We can say it is the OSGeo conference.. On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Barry Rowlingson < b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Marco Negretti > wrote: > > > I think that rename the conference is the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

>> >> >> 1 to Cameron's concise summary of the importance of simplifying and >> coalescing around a single identity >> >> Outside of our small well informed community there is confusion re 2 brands, >> one of which, FOSS4G, we don't even own apparently! >> >> Cheers Steven >> On 12

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

nto di Venkatesh Raghavan<ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> Inviato: domenica 11 ottobre 2015 14.09 A: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G I think the OSGeo-Live project that you are leading can be safely (re)-named as FOSS4G-Live as it has a wonderful arra

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

osgeo.org> per conto di Venkatesh Raghavan <ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> Inviato: domenica 11 ottobre 2015 14.09 A: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G I think the OSGeo-Live project that you are leading can be safely (re)-named as FOSS4G-Live as it

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

I think the OSGeo-Live project that you are leading can be safely (re)-named as FOSS4G-Live as it has a wonderful array of software projects that are not under the OSGeo umbrella as yet. Venka On 2015/10/08 5:08, Cameron Shorter wrote: +1 for "OSGeo conference". Adding a perspective from

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

11 ottobre 2015 14.09 A: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G I think the OSGeo-Live project that you are leading can be safely (re)-named as FOSS4G-Live as it has a wonderful array of software projects that are not under the OSGeo umbrella as yet. Venka On 2015/10/08

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

dia.osaka-cu.ac.jp> > Inviato: domenica 11 ottobre 2015 14.09 > A: discuss@lists.osgeo.org > Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G > > I think the OSGeo-Live project that you are leading can be safely > (re)-named as > FOSS4G-Live as it has a wonderful array of soft

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

On 12/10/2015 12:04 am, Jeff McKenna wrote: Regarding that topic though, it is a good time to bring up discussions of having the OSGeo-Live project actually enter into OSGeo Incubation, so that it formalizes as an OSGeo Project (right now it is classed as an "Outreach Project"). There was

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

Am 2015-10-07 22:21, schrieb Stephen Woodbridge: +1 on the less is more and on renaming. Marketing is about establishing a brand (among other things). It is clear who owns the OSGeo brand. Who owns the FOSS4G brand belong to? what is the added value of supporting this brand? and potentially

[OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

>Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but >here goes... > >Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference to The OSGeo Conference? > >Cons: > > 1. FOSS4G is an established brand > > 2. FOSS4G sidesteps the "Free" vs "Open Source" argument by including both. > >Counters to those: >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

+1 on the less is more and on renaming. Marketing is about establishing a brand (among other things). It is clear who owns the OSGeo brand. Who owns the FOSS4G brand belong to? what is the added value of supporting this brand? and potentially diluting or confusing the OSGeo brand? Many

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

+1 for "OSGeo conference". Adding a perspective from someone who marketed FOSS4G 2009. Creating a marketing message is all about minimising words used, because "less words get read more". When explaining FOSS4G to people outside our community you need to use: "international conference for

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss- > boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Barry Rowlingson > Yes, you and I and everyone *on this mailing list* knows > the difference and the relationship between OSGeo and FOSS4G. But > there are people out there in geospatial who don't

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

All, Fun thread to follow. throwing my thoughts out . . . I think the bigger issue is the word “change” in the discussions. It’s not about changing anything. It’s about classifying items better than before. Nothing is going away label-wise, or really being changed either. For example, you

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

A resounding YES !!! > On Oct 6, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Barry Rowlingson > wrote: > > Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but > here goes... > > Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference to The OSGeo Conference? > > Cons: > > 1. FOSS4G is an

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. I will bring some fuel - diesel in honor of the largest car manufacturing plant near me (Volkswagen) It would strengthen the brand of OSGEO with a conference named the same. There seems to be a fairly large disconnect right now with the FOSS4GNA

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

Hi Barry, No, please no!! FOSS4G is easy to pronounce in several languages, includes the word Free and is the name of the conference. OsGeo is ¿"just"? the organization behind it. I think it will make even more sense to change OSGeo to FOSGeo. Comments inline. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 5:12 PM,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

I'm actually a +1 for this. Changing to "The OSGeo Conference" would give the description right on the tin and ensure that OSGeo remains more actively relevant in the minds of members and newbies approaching the organization. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Barry Rowlingson

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

> > From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org > > [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot > > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 3:45 PM > > To: Paul Ramsey <pram...@cleverelephant.ca> > > Cc: osgeo-discuss <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

I do notice that many of the people speaking here were unable to attend FOSS4G Seoul. What you missed experiencing was how a FOSS4G event should be: - OSGeo Board representative quickly introduced the event in the opening plenary - OSGeo Board representative closed the event in the final

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

On 6 Oct 2015 18:28, "Paul Ramsey" wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Barry Rowlingson > wrote: > > Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but > > here goes... > > > > Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

> On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Paragon Corporation wrote: > > OSGEO is the Go To for all your FOSS4G needs. Reminds me how I used to do GIS on my IBM then go home and watch CBS on my VCR. Thankfully, those days are over. ___ Discuss

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 3:45 PM > To: Paul Ramsey <pram...@cleverelephant.ca> > Cc: osgeo-discuss <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G > > > > On 6 Oct 2015 18:28, "Paul Ramsey" <pram...@cleverelephant.ca> wro

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

Of Mateusz Loskot Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 3:45 PM To: Paul Ramsey <pram...@cleverelephant.ca> Cc: osgeo-discuss <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G On 6 Oct 2015 18:28, "Paul Ramsey" <pram...@cleverelephant.ca <mailto:pram..

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is the Go To for all your FOSS4G needs. > > > > > > Thanks, > > Regina > > > > From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 3:45 PM > To: Paul Ramsey <pram...@c

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

Acronyms don’t usually include prepositions, at least in English. Including 2 and 4 is definitely computerese, something that helps separate words that can’t have spaces between them as in command-line Unix, e.g. shp2kml. But I don’t see a need for it here, especially if we want to reach out to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

+1 4 this comment: "a cool thing 2 do ten years ago" Actually from an international point of view - and as OSGeo grows - I would think that the 4 in FOSS4G raises more questions than answers since the number 4 and the word "for" are only homonyms in English as far as I know. The German words für

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

On 10/06/2015 08:12 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: > Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but > here goes... > > Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference to The OSGeo Conference? > > Cons: > > 1. FOSS4G is an established brand > > 2. FOSS4G sidesteps the "Free" vs "Open

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

+1 -mpg > On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Dan Ames wrote: > > +1 4 this comment: "a cool thing 2 do ten years ago" > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: > Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but > here goes... > > Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference to The OSGeo Conference? Get off my lawn.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

On 6 October 2015 at 17:48, Gert-Jan van der Weijden wrote: > If FOSS4G is meant to be an event exclusively organized by OSGeo then a > rebrand to to OSGeo conference makes perfect sense. Folks, I'd like to remind us history of FOSS4G and its name:

[OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but here goes... Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference to The OSGeo Conference? Cons: 1. FOSS4G is an established brand 2. FOSS4G sidesteps the "Free" vs "Open Source" argument by including both. Counters to those: 1. Really?

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

If FOSS4G is meant to be an event exclusively organized by OSGeo then a rebrand to to OSGeo conference makes perfect sense. If -just as with FOSS4G-NA 2015- the conference is going to be a co-productin with one more other organisations (such as LocationTech then I'd keep the FOSS4G name. To