Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Interesting points. I have no credibility to begin with, but like you, I'm learning, and I care less about my credibility than learning this from people who do :) All I can say at this time is, yes, it seems that time functionality is being developed now with the open source GIS tools. This is a nice article that Noli Sicad gave earlier in the thread: WMS-T Support in Geoserver and Mapserver http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ nitin On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Carsten Troelsgaard wrote: > Hej Nitin > > I'll risk my credibillty on a comment. I grasp little of GIS, but I've > spent a lot of attention on visualizing data and 'painting on the screen'. > I've got an impression that time-animations belong to a next generation GIS, > but don't take my word for it. I expect that the code-changes needed to > animate a 2d polygon lies very deep in the code structure. > Ok, say I have what you have on your pc .. I would look for the > polygon-data. Is it accessible? > I know of one set of polygon-data, and that's the esri shapefile format. > I've been working on accessing that format through code, but I'm not all > there yet. > Next question: how/where are the changes of data? I mean, do you have ie > two sets as a 'before' and an 'after', or do you have a time-dependant > algorithm that can be used on the initial data to propagate it forward > (probably not). How is your setup on that front? > The 'painting-mashinery' of your pc may read directly on the data, so there > could be problems on syncronisation if you start to write to the same data - > I could imagine that this is where the real problems are, becourse the > transmission from the data to the screen may need to be redirected to > somewhere else (to the changed data) or wrapped up in a thread-safe way. > That's a problem that's been solved before, but probably not without > altering the original code .. it's on the edge of my experience. > That said, I'm very little acquainted with any gis-tools, so don't take my > comment for more than it is > > Kindly > Carsten > > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like > OSM? > > From: tmitch...@osgeo.org > > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:01:26 -0700 > > To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > > > > Hi Nitin, I'd suggest you focus only on running something on your own PC > for now so you can test it out without worrying about hosting providers. > Then again, maybe someone on here knows of some public services you might > use, but I'm not familiar with any. > > > > For getting started I recommend you check out some of the workshops from > last year's FOSS4G - most of them have downloads available of the course > material and software, specifically for newcomers like yourself. Check out: > http://2010.foss4g.org/workshop.php > > > > Hope that helps! > > > > Tyler > > > > On 2011-08-03, at 1:44 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > > > > > Thanks for that tutorial. I'll need to first have administrative access > to both GeoServer and PostgreSQL running on a server. > > > > > > So, I'm thinking of setting up, as I mentioned, both mapserver via > geomoose and geoserver. > > > > > > I am new to all of this, so I'm going to send questions to the > individual mailing lists to get help setting up. > > > > > > Does anyone think there is a way I can just use the tools through a > server providing the tools as a free service? > > > If I should just go ahead and install everything on my own server, I > was thinking of setting up a server through godaddy, a third-party service. > Is this a bad idea? I don't want to have any problems, and they're good with > customer support. I have no experience setting up a server on my own... > > > > > > I'll send links to the threads I start on the geoserver and geomoose > mailing lists. > > > > > > thanks, > > > nitin > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > > > Here's a tutorial for OpenLayers WFS-T Using a GeoServer Hosted PostGIS > Layer. > > > > > > "A WFS-Transaction can be used to add, remove or modify the features > > > that are loaded, and most importantly allows for the changes to be > > > committed back and saved to the parent source." > > > > > > > http://www.gistutor.com/openlayers/22-advanced-openlayers-tutorials/47-openlayers-wfs-t-using-a-geoserver-hosted-postgis-layer.html > > > > &g
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Hej Nitin I'll risk my credibillty on a comment. I grasp little of GIS, but I've spent a lot of attention on visualizing data and 'painting on the screen'. I've got an impression that time-animations belong to a next generation GIS, but don't take my word for it. I expect that the code-changes needed to animate a 2d polygon lies very deep in the code structure. Ok, say I have what you have on your pc .. I would look for the polygon-data. Is it accessible? I know of one set of polygon-data, and that's the esri shapefile format. I've been working on accessing that format through code, but I'm not all there yet. Next question: how/where are the changes of data? I mean, do you have ie two sets as a 'before' and an 'after', or do you have a time-dependant algorithm that can be used on the initial data to propagate it forward (probably not). How is your setup on that front?The 'painting-mashinery' of your pc may read directly on the data, so there could be problems on syncronisation if you start to write to the same data - I could imagine that this is where the real problems are, becourse the transmission from the data to the screen may need to be redirected to somewhere else (to the changed data) or wrapped up in a thread-safe way. That's a problem that's been solved before, but probably not without altering the original code .. it's on the edge of my experience.That said, I'm very little acquainted with any gis-tools, so don't take my comment for more than it is KindlyCarsten> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM? > From: tmitch...@osgeo.org > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:01:26 -0700 > To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > Hi Nitin, I'd suggest you focus only on running something on your own PC for > now so you can test it out without worrying about hosting providers. Then > again, maybe someone on here knows of some public services you might use, but > I'm not familiar with any. > > For getting started I recommend you check out some of the workshops from last > year's FOSS4G - most of them have downloads available of the course material > and software, specifically for newcomers like yourself. Check out: > http://2010.foss4g.org/workshop.php > > Hope that helps! > > Tyler > > On 2011-08-03, at 1:44 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > > > Thanks for that tutorial. I'll need to first have administrative access to > > both GeoServer and PostgreSQL running on a server. > > > > So, I'm thinking of setting up, as I mentioned, both mapserver via geomoose > > and geoserver. > > > > I am new to all of this, so I'm going to send questions to the individual > > mailing lists to get help setting up. > > > > Does anyone think there is a way I can just use the tools through a server > > providing the tools as a free service? > > If I should just go ahead and install everything on my own server, I was > > thinking of setting up a server through godaddy, a third-party service. Is > > this a bad idea? I don't want to have any problems, and they're good with > > customer support. I have no experience setting up a server on my own... > > > > I'll send links to the threads I start on the geoserver and geomoose > > mailing lists. > > > > thanks, > > nitin > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > > Here's a tutorial for OpenLayers WFS-T Using a GeoServer Hosted PostGIS > > Layer. > > > > "A WFS-Transaction can be used to add, remove or modify the features > > that are loaded, and most importantly allows for the changes to be > > committed back and saved to the parent source." > > > > http://www.gistutor.com/openlayers/22-advanced-openlayers-tutorials/47-openlayers-wfs-t-using-a-geoserver-hosted-postgis-layer.html > > > > Noli > > > > On 8/3/11, Nitin Gadia wrote: > > > I just had a good conversation with Tyler Mitchell at OSGeo. > > > > > > I am going to dive in and set up a server with openlayers and try > > > different > > > tools for the server layer. > > > > > > What I need is something that deals well with WFS-T and WMS-T. > > > WFS-T is for adding and editing features, and WMS-T is for requesting maps > > > with a time component. > > > > > > Noli Sicad above gave a great overview article about WMS-T, which > > > mapserver > > > has developed and geoserver is working on: > > > http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ > > > > >
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Should I use this one? http://2010.foss4g.org/workshop08.php I downloaded the slides, but I don't see the slides anywhere in the folder... nitin On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote: > Hi Nitin, I'd suggest you focus only on running something on your own PC > for now so you can test it out without worrying about hosting providers. > Then again, maybe someone on here knows of some public services you might > use, but I'm not familiar with any. > > For getting started I recommend you check out some of the workshops from > last year's FOSS4G - most of them have downloads available of the course > material and software, specifically for newcomers like yourself. Check out: > http://2010.foss4g.org/workshop.php > > Hope that helps! > > Tyler > > On 2011-08-03, at 1:44 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > > > Thanks for that tutorial. I'll need to first have administrative access > to both GeoServer and PostgreSQL running on a server. > > > > So, I'm thinking of setting up, as I mentioned, both mapserver via > geomoose and geoserver. > > > > I am new to all of this, so I'm going to send questions to the individual > mailing lists to get help setting up. > > > > Does anyone think there is a way I can just use the tools through a > server providing the tools as a free service? > > If I should just go ahead and install everything on my own server, I was > thinking of setting up a server through godaddy, a third-party service. Is > this a bad idea? I don't want to have any problems, and they're good with > customer support. I have no experience setting up a server on my own... > > > > I'll send links to the threads I start on the geoserver and geomoose > mailing lists. > > > > thanks, > > nitin > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > > Here's a tutorial for OpenLayers WFS-T Using a GeoServer Hosted PostGIS > Layer. > > > > "A WFS-Transaction can be used to add, remove or modify the features > > that are loaded, and most importantly allows for the changes to be > > committed back and saved to the parent source." > > > > > http://www.gistutor.com/openlayers/22-advanced-openlayers-tutorials/47-openlayers-wfs-t-using-a-geoserver-hosted-postgis-layer.html > > > > Noli > > > > On 8/3/11, Nitin Gadia wrote: > > > I just had a good conversation with Tyler Mitchell at OSGeo. > > > > > > I am going to dive in and set up a server with openlayers and try > different > > > tools for the server layer. > > > > > > What I need is something that deals well with WFS-T and WMS-T. > > > WFS-T is for adding and editing features, and WMS-T is for requesting > maps > > > with a time component. > > > > > > Noli Sicad above gave a great overview article about WMS-T, which > mapserver > > > has developed and geoserver is working on: > > > > http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ > > > > > > I am going to do some research into WFS-T. > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > Looks like geoserver and mapserver handle that, as well as geomajas, > > > deegree, mapfish, and others. > > > > > > I'm going to dive right in and set up both mapserver (perhaps using > > > geomoose) and geoserver\ > > > I'll be needing help setting it all up, so I'll probably be asking the > > > individual mailing lists for help with that along the way. > > > > > > ... and by the way, there's a good chance I will attend FOSS4G, perhaps > I > > > can talk to people there and attend a related workshop. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts about what components should be used, and the advantages > and > > > disadvantages of each? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Nitin Gadia > wrote: > > > > > >> fantastic!! > > >> thanks! > > >> Hopefully they will become part of the team :) > > >> > > >> This is just for countries - imagine every road, city, ethnic and > > >> linguistic group, the flow of trade, events such as battles and wars, > > >> etc... > > >> and animated... > > >> > > >> There is so much out there, it all needs to kind of put together. > > >> > > >> > > >> nitin > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Wladimir Szczerban > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Nitin, > > >>> > > >>> Maybe you can contact those who made this map. > > >>> http://geacron.com/home-es/?lang=es&sid=GeaCron860293 > > >>> > > >>> Perhaps you can get some collaboration. > > >>> > > >>> Bolo > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 2011/8/1 Nitin Gadia > > >>> > > Great!! > > > > So, I went forward and started a page on the OSGeo Wiki around the > > project: > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Online_Polygon_Mapping_Communities > > > > *Does anyone else know of any other open polygon mapping effort or > > tools? > > *It is very important that the full breadth of the efforts are > > inventoried before i/we go forward with this.* > > * > > So far we have: > > > > *Openlayers > > *Open Moose (uses openlaye
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Hi Nitin, I'd suggest you focus only on running something on your own PC for now so you can test it out without worrying about hosting providers. Then again, maybe someone on here knows of some public services you might use, but I'm not familiar with any. For getting started I recommend you check out some of the workshops from last year's FOSS4G - most of them have downloads available of the course material and software, specifically for newcomers like yourself. Check out: http://2010.foss4g.org/workshop.php Hope that helps! Tyler On 2011-08-03, at 1:44 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > Thanks for that tutorial. I'll need to first have administrative access to > both GeoServer and PostgreSQL running on a server. > > So, I'm thinking of setting up, as I mentioned, both mapserver via geomoose > and geoserver. > > I am new to all of this, so I'm going to send questions to the individual > mailing lists to get help setting up. > > Does anyone think there is a way I can just use the tools through a server > providing the tools as a free service? > If I should just go ahead and install everything on my own server, I was > thinking of setting up a server through godaddy, a third-party service. Is > this a bad idea? I don't want to have any problems, and they're good with > customer support. I have no experience setting up a server on my own... > > I'll send links to the threads I start on the geoserver and geomoose mailing > lists. > > thanks, > nitin > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > Here's a tutorial for OpenLayers WFS-T Using a GeoServer Hosted PostGIS Layer. > > "A WFS-Transaction can be used to add, remove or modify the features > that are loaded, and most importantly allows for the changes to be > committed back and saved to the parent source." > > http://www.gistutor.com/openlayers/22-advanced-openlayers-tutorials/47-openlayers-wfs-t-using-a-geoserver-hosted-postgis-layer.html > > Noli > > On 8/3/11, Nitin Gadia wrote: > > I just had a good conversation with Tyler Mitchell at OSGeo. > > > > I am going to dive in and set up a server with openlayers and try different > > tools for the server layer. > > > > What I need is something that deals well with WFS-T and WMS-T. > > WFS-T is for adding and editing features, and WMS-T is for requesting maps > > with a time component. > > > > Noli Sicad above gave a great overview article about WMS-T, which mapserver > > has developed and geoserver is working on: > > http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ > > > > I am going to do some research into WFS-T. > > Any thoughts? > > > > Looks like geoserver and mapserver handle that, as well as geomajas, > > deegree, mapfish, and others. > > > > I'm going to dive right in and set up both mapserver (perhaps using > > geomoose) and geoserver\ > > I'll be needing help setting it all up, so I'll probably be asking the > > individual mailing lists for help with that along the way. > > > > ... and by the way, there's a good chance I will attend FOSS4G, perhaps I > > can talk to people there and attend a related workshop. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts about what components should be used, and the advantages and > > disadvantages of each? > > > > > > > > Nitin > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > > > >> fantastic!! > >> thanks! > >> Hopefully they will become part of the team :) > >> > >> This is just for countries - imagine every road, city, ethnic and > >> linguistic group, the flow of trade, events such as battles and wars, > >> etc... > >> and animated... > >> > >> There is so much out there, it all needs to kind of put together. > >> > >> > >> nitin > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Wladimir Szczerban > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Nitin, > >>> > >>> Maybe you can contact those who made this map. > >>> http://geacron.com/home-es/?lang=es&sid=GeaCron860293 > >>> > >>> Perhaps you can get some collaboration. > >>> > >>> Bolo > >>> > >>> > >>> 2011/8/1 Nitin Gadia > >>> > Great!! > > So, I went forward and started a page on the OSGeo Wiki around the > project: > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Online_Polygon_Mapping_Communities > > *Does anyone else know of any other open polygon mapping effort or > tools? > *It is very important that the full breadth of the efforts are > inventoried before i/we go forward with this.* > * > So far we have: > > *Openlayers > *Open Moose (uses openlayers) > > WMS-T: > *MapServer > *GeoSolutions > > There is also: > *Geocommons > *click2map > > > Anything else?? > Feel free to respond here or write on the wiki page :) > > > Thanks, > Nitin > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > > > > Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Thanks for that tutorial. I'll need to first have administrative access to both GeoServer and PostgreSQL running on a server. So, I'm thinking of setting up, as I mentioned, both mapserver via geomoose and geoserver. I am new to all of this, so I'm going to send questions to the individual mailing lists to get help setting up. Does anyone think there is a way I can just use the tools through a server providing the tools as a free service? If I should just go ahead and install everything on my own server, I was thinking of setting up a server through godaddy, a third-party service. Is this a bad idea? I don't want to have any problems, and they're good with customer support. I have no experience setting up a server on my own... I'll send links to the threads I start on the geoserver and geomoose mailing lists. thanks, nitin On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > Here's a tutorial for OpenLayers WFS-T Using a GeoServer Hosted PostGIS > Layer. > > "A WFS-Transaction can be used to add, remove or modify the features > that are loaded, and most importantly allows for the changes to be > committed back and saved to the parent source." > > > http://www.gistutor.com/openlayers/22-advanced-openlayers-tutorials/47-openlayers-wfs-t-using-a-geoserver-hosted-postgis-layer.html > > Noli > > On 8/3/11, Nitin Gadia wrote: > > I just had a good conversation with Tyler Mitchell at OSGeo. > > > > I am going to dive in and set up a server with openlayers and try > different > > tools for the server layer. > > > > What I need is something that deals well with WFS-T and WMS-T. > > WFS-T is for adding and editing features, and WMS-T is for requesting > maps > > with a time component. > > > > Noli Sicad above gave a great overview article about WMS-T, which > mapserver > > has developed and geoserver is working on: > > > http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ > > > > I am going to do some research into WFS-T. > > Any thoughts? > > > > Looks like geoserver and mapserver handle that, as well as geomajas, > > deegree, mapfish, and others. > > > > I'm going to dive right in and set up both mapserver (perhaps using > > geomoose) and geoserver\ > > I'll be needing help setting it all up, so I'll probably be asking the > > individual mailing lists for help with that along the way. > > > > ... and by the way, there's a good chance I will attend FOSS4G, perhaps I > > can talk to people there and attend a related workshop. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts about what components should be used, and the advantages and > > disadvantages of each? > > > > > > > > Nitin > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > > > >> fantastic!! > >> thanks! > >> Hopefully they will become part of the team :) > >> > >> This is just for countries - imagine every road, city, ethnic and > >> linguistic group, the flow of trade, events such as battles and wars, > >> etc... > >> and animated... > >> > >> There is so much out there, it all needs to kind of put together. > >> > >> > >> nitin > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Wladimir Szczerban > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Nitin, > >>> > >>> Maybe you can contact those who made this map. > >>> http://geacron.com/home-es/?lang=es&sid=GeaCron860293 > >>> > >>> Perhaps you can get some collaboration. > >>> > >>> Bolo > >>> > >>> > >>> 2011/8/1 Nitin Gadia > >>> > Great!! > > So, I went forward and started a page on the OSGeo Wiki around the > project: > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Online_Polygon_Mapping_Communities > > *Does anyone else know of any other open polygon mapping effort or > tools? > *It is very important that the full breadth of the efforts are > inventoried before i/we go forward with this.* > * > So far we have: > > *Openlayers > *Open Moose (uses openlayers) > > WMS-T: > *MapServer > *GeoSolutions > > There is also: > *Geocommons > *click2map > > > Anything else?? > Feel free to respond here or write on the wiki page :) > > > Thanks, > Nitin > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > > > > Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking > > lots, > > > buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to > be > > able > > > to figure it out... > > > > Vector editing in OpenLayers (i.e. drawing points, lines and > polygons). > > http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/vector-formats.html > > > > You can use OSM as your basemap for the editing. > > > > You need Geoserver and/or Mapserver for the timeline with OpenLayers. > > > > WMS-T Support in Geoserver and Mapserver > > > > > http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ > > > > Noli > > ___
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Here's a tutorial for OpenLayers WFS-T Using a GeoServer Hosted PostGIS Layer. "A WFS-Transaction can be used to add, remove or modify the features that are loaded, and most importantly allows for the changes to be committed back and saved to the parent source." http://www.gistutor.com/openlayers/22-advanced-openlayers-tutorials/47-openlayers-wfs-t-using-a-geoserver-hosted-postgis-layer.html Noli On 8/3/11, Nitin Gadia wrote: > I just had a good conversation with Tyler Mitchell at OSGeo. > > I am going to dive in and set up a server with openlayers and try different > tools for the server layer. > > What I need is something that deals well with WFS-T and WMS-T. > WFS-T is for adding and editing features, and WMS-T is for requesting maps > with a time component. > > Noli Sicad above gave a great overview article about WMS-T, which mapserver > has developed and geoserver is working on: > http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ > > I am going to do some research into WFS-T. > Any thoughts? > > Looks like geoserver and mapserver handle that, as well as geomajas, > deegree, mapfish, and others. > > I'm going to dive right in and set up both mapserver (perhaps using > geomoose) and geoserver\ > I'll be needing help setting it all up, so I'll probably be asking the > individual mailing lists for help with that along the way. > > ... and by the way, there's a good chance I will attend FOSS4G, perhaps I > can talk to people there and attend a related workshop. > > > > Any thoughts about what components should be used, and the advantages and > disadvantages of each? > > > > Nitin > > > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > >> fantastic!! >> thanks! >> Hopefully they will become part of the team :) >> >> This is just for countries - imagine every road, city, ethnic and >> linguistic group, the flow of trade, events such as battles and wars, >> etc... >> and animated... >> >> There is so much out there, it all needs to kind of put together. >> >> >> nitin >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Wladimir Szczerban >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Nitin, >>> >>> Maybe you can contact those who made this map. >>> http://geacron.com/home-es/?lang=es&sid=GeaCron860293 >>> >>> Perhaps you can get some collaboration. >>> >>> Bolo >>> >>> >>> 2011/8/1 Nitin Gadia >>> Great!! So, I went forward and started a page on the OSGeo Wiki around the project: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Online_Polygon_Mapping_Communities *Does anyone else know of any other open polygon mapping effort or tools? *It is very important that the full breadth of the efforts are inventoried before i/we go forward with this.* * So far we have: *Openlayers *Open Moose (uses openlayers) WMS-T: *MapServer *GeoSolutions There is also: *Geocommons *click2map Anything else?? Feel free to respond here or write on the wiki page :) Thanks, Nitin On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > > Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking > lots, > > buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to be > able > > to figure it out... > > Vector editing in OpenLayers (i.e. drawing points, lines and polygons). > http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/vector-formats.html > > You can use OSM as your basemap for the editing. > > You need Geoserver and/or Mapserver for the timeline with OpenLayers. > > WMS-T Support in Geoserver and Mapserver > > http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ > > Noli > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >> > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
I just had a good conversation with Tyler Mitchell at OSGeo. I am going to dive in and set up a server with openlayers and try different tools for the server layer. What I need is something that deals well with WFS-T and WMS-T. WFS-T is for adding and editing features, and WMS-T is for requesting maps with a time component. Noli Sicad above gave a great overview article about WMS-T, which mapserver has developed and geoserver is working on: http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ I am going to do some research into WFS-T. Any thoughts? Looks like geoserver and mapserver handle that, as well as geomajas, deegree, mapfish, and others. I'm going to dive right in and set up both mapserver (perhaps using geomoose) and geoserver\ I'll be needing help setting it all up, so I'll probably be asking the individual mailing lists for help with that along the way. ... and by the way, there's a good chance I will attend FOSS4G, perhaps I can talk to people there and attend a related workshop. Any thoughts about what components should be used, and the advantages and disadvantages of each? Nitin On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > fantastic!! > thanks! > Hopefully they will become part of the team :) > > This is just for countries - imagine every road, city, ethnic and > linguistic group, the flow of trade, events such as battles and wars, etc... > and animated... > > There is so much out there, it all needs to kind of put together. > > > nitin > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Wladimir Szczerban wrote: > >> Hi Nitin, >> >> Maybe you can contact those who made this map. >> http://geacron.com/home-es/?lang=es&sid=GeaCron860293 >> >> Perhaps you can get some collaboration. >> >> Bolo >> >> >> 2011/8/1 Nitin Gadia >> >>> Great!! >>> >>> So, I went forward and started a page on the OSGeo Wiki around the >>> project: >>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Online_Polygon_Mapping_Communities >>> >>> *Does anyone else know of any other open polygon mapping effort or >>> tools? >>> *It is very important that the full breadth of the efforts are >>> inventoried before i/we go forward with this.* >>> * >>> So far we have: >>> >>> *Openlayers >>> *Open Moose (uses openlayers) >>> >>> WMS-T: >>> *MapServer >>> *GeoSolutions >>> >>> There is also: >>> *Geocommons >>> *click2map >>> >>> >>> Anything else?? >>> Feel free to respond here or write on the wiki page :) >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Nitin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: >>> > Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking lots, > buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to be able > to figure it out... Vector editing in OpenLayers (i.e. drawing points, lines and polygons). http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/vector-formats.html You can use OSM as your basemap for the editing. You need Geoserver and/or Mapserver for the timeline with OpenLayers. WMS-T Support in Geoserver and Mapserver http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ Noli ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
fantastic!! thanks! Hopefully they will become part of the team :) This is just for countries - imagine every road, city, ethnic and linguistic group, the flow of trade, events such as battles and wars, etc... and animated... There is so much out there, it all needs to kind of put together. nitin On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Wladimir Szczerban wrote: > Hi Nitin, > > Maybe you can contact those who made this map. > http://geacron.com/home-es/?lang=es&sid=GeaCron860293 > > Perhaps you can get some collaboration. > > Bolo > > > 2011/8/1 Nitin Gadia > >> Great!! >> >> So, I went forward and started a page on the OSGeo Wiki around the >> project: >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Online_Polygon_Mapping_Communities >> >> *Does anyone else know of any other open polygon mapping effort or tools? >> *It is very important that the full breadth of the efforts are >> inventoried before i/we go forward with this.* >> * >> So far we have: >> >> *Openlayers >> *Open Moose (uses openlayers) >> >> WMS-T: >> *MapServer >> *GeoSolutions >> >> There is also: >> *Geocommons >> *click2map >> >> >> Anything else?? >> Feel free to respond here or write on the wiki page :) >> >> >> Thanks, >> Nitin >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: >> >>> > Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking >>> lots, >>> > buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to be >>> able >>> > to figure it out... >>> >>> Vector editing in OpenLayers (i.e. drawing points, lines and polygons). >>> http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/vector-formats.html >>> >>> You can use OSM as your basemap for the editing. >>> >>> You need Geoserver and/or Mapserver for the timeline with OpenLayers. >>> >>> WMS-T Support in Geoserver and Mapserver >>> >>> http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ >>> >>> Noli >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
It looks like the project can be done by starting it with GeoMoose, but I want to survey all the other web mapping tools available. Geomoose is made with mapserver and openlayers. Perhaps Geoserver and other tools/software have advantages over mapserver? I'm starting from scratch, so you have to bear with me! Nitin On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > Great!! > > So, I went forward and started a page on the OSGeo Wiki around the project: > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Online_Polygon_Mapping_Communities > > *Does anyone else know of any other open polygon mapping effort or tools? > *It is very important that the full breadth of the efforts are inventoried > before i/we go forward with this.* > * > So far we have: > > *Openlayers > *Open Moose (uses openlayers) > > WMS-T: > *MapServer > *GeoSolutions > > There is also: > *Geocommons > *click2map > > > Anything else?? > Feel free to respond here or write on the wiki page :) > > > Thanks, > Nitin > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > >> > Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking lots, >> > buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to be >> able >> > to figure it out... >> >> Vector editing in OpenLayers (i.e. drawing points, lines and polygons). >> http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/vector-formats.html >> >> You can use OSM as your basemap for the editing. >> >> You need Geoserver and/or Mapserver for the timeline with OpenLayers. >> >> WMS-T Support in Geoserver and Mapserver >> >> http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ >> >> Noli >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Hi Nitin, Maybe you can contact those who made this map. http://geacron.com/home-es/?lang=es&sid=GeaCron860293 Perhaps you can get some collaboration. Bolo 2011/8/1 Nitin Gadia > Great!! > > So, I went forward and started a page on the OSGeo Wiki around the project: > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Online_Polygon_Mapping_Communities > > *Does anyone else know of any other open polygon mapping effort or tools? > *It is very important that the full breadth of the efforts are inventoried > before i/we go forward with this.* > * > So far we have: > > *Openlayers > *Open Moose (uses openlayers) > > WMS-T: > *MapServer > *GeoSolutions > > There is also: > *Geocommons > *click2map > > > Anything else?? > Feel free to respond here or write on the wiki page :) > > > Thanks, > Nitin > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > >> > Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking lots, >> > buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to be >> able >> > to figure it out... >> >> Vector editing in OpenLayers (i.e. drawing points, lines and polygons). >> http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/vector-formats.html >> >> You can use OSM as your basemap for the editing. >> >> You need Geoserver and/or Mapserver for the timeline with OpenLayers. >> >> WMS-T Support in Geoserver and Mapserver >> >> http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ >> >> Noli >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Great!! So, I went forward and started a page on the OSGeo Wiki around the project: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Online_Polygon_Mapping_Communities *Does anyone else know of any other open polygon mapping effort or tools? *It is very important that the full breadth of the efforts are inventoried before i/we go forward with this.* * So far we have: *Openlayers *Open Moose (uses openlayers) WMS-T: *MapServer *GeoSolutions There is also: *Geocommons *click2map Anything else?? Feel free to respond here or write on the wiki page :) Thanks, Nitin On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Noli Sicad wrote: > > Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking lots, > > buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to be > able > > to figure it out... > > Vector editing in OpenLayers (i.e. drawing points, lines and polygons). > http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/vector-formats.html > > You can use OSM as your basemap for the editing. > > You need Geoserver and/or Mapserver for the timeline with OpenLayers. > > WMS-T Support in Geoserver and Mapserver > > http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ > > Noli > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
> Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking lots, > buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to be able > to figure it out... Vector editing in OpenLayers (i.e. drawing points, lines and polygons). http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/vector-formats.html You can use OSM as your basemap for the editing. You need Geoserver and/or Mapserver for the timeline with OpenLayers. WMS-T Support in Geoserver and Mapserver http://underdark.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/wms-t-support-in-geoserver-and-mapserver/ Noli ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/2044/digitizing-buildings-in-potlatch The key is that it's a different tool (like most GIS desktop). It's a line that has the same start/end point and then a proper tag to indicate what it is. You can see in downloads of OSM data that buildings etc get put into a polygon layer separate from the line layers. If you have more questions try the OSM mailing lists. Thanks, Alex On 07/29/2011 02:17 PM, Nitin Gadia wrote: > awesome! thanks! > > Are there any other projects that use polygons that you're aware of?? > > Is there any word about GeoMoose becoming an online open community like > openstreetmap or onegeology? > > Looks like this is the project I need to join in development. I did a demo > of GeoMoose, it looks pretty good. It needs more functionality though. A > timeline would be nice. Also, something that would join boundaries of > polygons. Here, I'm envisioning that a user can draw a polygon and some > lines could automatically be drawn along a line, like a river or a > coastline, or another border. This would streamline drawing tremendously. > > > Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking lots, > buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to be able > to figure it out... > > > Nitin > > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Bob Basques > wrote: > >> Nitin, >> >> Openlayers can build polygons on the map. >> >> GeoMoose, which is built on top of OpenLayers can also do this. >> >> In both cases you will need to build out a service to store the created >> polygons. >> >> bobb >> >> >> >> > Nitin Gadia wrote: >> >> Please help!! >> >> >> Does anyone know an open online mapping platform like openstreetmap that >> does polygons (OSM only does lines)? >> >> Basically, I'm envisioning something where someone can add polygons such as >> historical nations, and then be able to animate them. I should be able to >> type in, say, "1900" and see the way the world was then. I can then edit a >> map, changing and adding polygons, and their colors and metadata. I should >> also be able to view areas by, say, population density and other statistics. >> >> The closest thing I've found is "click2map", which is not opensource. >> Something needs to be created just like it. Try it out, and create a >> polygon: >> http://www.click2map.com/free_map_editor >> >> >> >> >> I want to help create an open historical map of the world. Check out the >> work I've done so far: >> http://www.thenittygritty.org/intheworks.html >> >> Also, check this out: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxrXiO0zcVw&feature=related >> >> >> >> >> If this is not available, I will do everything I can to help build it! >> >> >> Thanks, >> Nitin >> >> ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
awesome! thanks! Are there any other projects that use polygons that you're aware of?? Is there any word about GeoMoose becoming an online open community like openstreetmap or onegeology? Looks like this is the project I need to join in development. I did a demo of GeoMoose, it looks pretty good. It needs more functionality though. A timeline would be nice. Also, something that would join boundaries of polygons. Here, I'm envisioning that a user can draw a polygon and some lines could automatically be drawn along a line, like a river or a coastline, or another border. This would streamline drawing tremendously. Someone also told me you can do polygons in openstreetmap (parking lots, buildings, etc.). Does anyone know how to do this? I can't seem to be able to figure it out... Nitin On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Bob Basques wrote: > Nitin, > > Openlayers can build polygons on the map. > > GeoMoose, which is built on top of OpenLayers can also do this. > > In both cases you will need to build out a service to store the created > polygons. > > bobb > > > > > >>> Nitin Gadia wrote: > > Please help!! > > > Does anyone know an open online mapping platform like openstreetmap that > does polygons (OSM only does lines)? > > Basically, I'm envisioning something where someone can add polygons such as > historical nations, and then be able to animate them. I should be able to > type in, say, "1900" and see the way the world was then. I can then edit a > map, changing and adding polygons, and their colors and metadata. I should > also be able to view areas by, say, population density and other statistics. > > The closest thing I've found is "click2map", which is not opensource. > Something needs to be created just like it. Try it out, and create a > polygon: > http://www.click2map.com/free_map_editor > > > > > I want to help create an open historical map of the world. Check out the > work I've done so far: > http://www.thenittygritty.org/intheworks.html > > Also, check this out: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxrXiO0zcVw&feature=related > > > > > If this is not available, I will do everything I can to help build it! > > > Thanks, > Nitin > > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Nitin, Openlayers can build polygons on the map. GeoMoose, which is built on top of OpenLayers can also do this. In both cases you will need to build out a service to store the created polygons. bobb >>> Nitin Gadia wrote: Please help!! Does anyone know an open online mapping platform like openstreetmap that does polygons (OSM only does lines)? Basically, I'm envisioning something where someone can add polygons such as historical nations, and then be able to animate them. I should be able to type in, say, "1900" and see the way the world was then. I can then edit a map, changing and adding polygons, and their colors and metadata. I should also be able to view areas by, say, population density and other statistics. The closest thing I've found is "click2map", which is not opensource. Something needs to be created just like it. Try it out, and create a polygon: http://www.click2map.com/free_map_editor I want to help create an open historical map of the world. Check out the work I've done so far: http://www.thenittygritty.org/intheworks.html Also, check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxrXiO0zcVw&feature=related If this is not available, I will do everything I can to help build it! Thanks, Nitin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] online open source polygon mapping, like OSM?
Please help!! Does anyone know an open online mapping platform like openstreetmap that does polygons (OSM only does lines)? Basically, I'm envisioning something where someone can add polygons such as historical nations, and then be able to animate them. I should be able to type in, say, "1900" and see the way the world was then. I can then edit a map, changing and adding polygons, and their colors and metadata. I should also be able to view areas by, say, population density and other statistics. The closest thing I've found is "click2map", which is not opensource. Something needs to be created just like it. Try it out, and create a polygon: http://www.click2map.com/free_map_editor I want to help create an open historical map of the world. Check out the work I've done so far: http://www.thenittygritty.org/intheworks.html Also, check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxrXiO0zcVw&feature=related If this is not available, I will do everything I can to help build it! Thanks, Nitin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
