Re: [slim] Christmas Music

2007-11-20 Thread auronthas
You can tune in Christmas Music 24/7 station from Live365 under > Internet Radio> Live365 > Genres> Seasons/Holidays - Christmas, you can choose Christmas music stations within this area. I think you need to subscribe (free) as member and sign in. -- auronthas Auronthas Digital Sources: Squ

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread sikahr
Ben, thank you for support Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 __

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread sikahr
Sean, thank you for your answer. I will try stereo tonight and report results here. regards, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdev

Re: [slim] Possible SB3 Bug

2007-11-20 Thread ceejay
First thought, slightly long shot - is your slimserver externally visible on the internet? Second thought, slightly more likely - plugins? Try disabling all plugins and see if the behaviour changes. If it does change, turn d_plugins on in debugging settings and see what shows up in the log. Cee

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread haunyack
Ooh...the forum police... Run! . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K R200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. (Listening room) SB3 (RWA analog) -> Rotel RB1070 -> B&W Matrix 805. (Bedroom) Fridgidare -> Mirror Pond pale ale -> easy chair w/remote -> irritated neighbors.

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread haunyack
Everybody's a self-proclaimed moderator. No this, no that. Sterile, safe, boring. Jeez. . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K R200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. (Listening room) SB3 (RWA analog) -> Rotel RB1070 -> B&W Matrix 805. (Bedroom) Fridgidare -> Mirror Pond pale ale -> easy chair w/remot

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread tyler_durden
Why don't you guys take this to usenet, where it belongs? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread seanadams
This is not going to be simple to track down but we will look into it. I assure our MAD implementation is 24-bit, although that it not to say it doesn't have a problem with this signal. As you are probably aware the decompression/decoding stage of mp3 playback is a frequency domain affair, and t

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread JimC
morris_minor;244058 Wrote: > Well, yes - if all you want is a "World Band" radio . . . and assuming > our non-techy user even knows what a router is . . and can then set it > up . . then it does Just Work :o) Actually, it is already far more than a world-band radio. It connects you to music se

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread haunyack
Ron F.;244248 Wrote: > People, > Frustration is understandable, but the use of bad language is really > bad form here. > > -Ron So...hide your eyes. Shit happens. So, I said some shit that I should not have. Kinda shitty of me to contribute to the lower vibration of this thread. I deleted my sh

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread Ron F .
People, I certainly have become frustrated myself at times with running Slimserver, but this forum has been fantastic. It is not like other forums, and it is important to treat everyone else you meet here as if they are someone that you would like to invite over to sit on your couch and listen t

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread brucegrr
This is certainly a thread illustrating "how not to get help" :) In some forums I have participated in, the original poster would have been roasted alive. Folks on these forums are pretty mellow, all in all. I view slimserver as a work in progress (as all software is) It is not perfect but it ai

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread tonyptony
seanadams;243980 Wrote: > Sorry to hear about your frustration, but the fact is that SlimServer > has never been intended to "organize" your music. Indeed, the software > deliberately avoids modifying any music files at all on your disk, and > this has been a conscious design principle since vers

Re: [slim] 10.5.1(Leopard) and SqueezeCenter

2007-11-20 Thread mario21
I did a clean install. I choose for all users. Same problem,,, -- mario21 mario21's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40362 ___

Re: [slim] Possible SB3 Bug

2007-11-20 Thread btcompute
Actually, I am using a universal remote most of the time to control the SB. None of the components controlled by this remote are JVC. I can tell you that this behavior occurs when no buttons are being pushed. I see this happen when I am the only person in the house, and all I'm doing is sitting s

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread snarlydwarf
Ben Sandee;244199 Wrote: > I don't > understand why everyone is jumping all over you honestly -- bug > reports like this with detailed reproductions and calm, collected > reasoning are very rare. I don't think anyone is "jumping all over" him. I just doubt the methodology or the wording is com

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread 4mula1
How are you trying to delete the playlist? From the web interface? Which skin? -- 4mula1 SlimServer 6.5.4 + Solaris 10 x86: Because Linux would've been too easy! 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.ph

Re: [slim] Possible SB3 Bug

2007-11-20 Thread snarlydwarf
In the ancient past, there was no real remote: the SliMP3 was pretty much a garage project and spending money on a custom remote would have been silly. So Sean and Co cheated: they had the original devices use JVC DVD remote codes and included a universal remote for the remote. These codes are s

[slim] Squeezebox 2 starts playing on its own

2007-11-20 Thread qirex
I'm beginning to think my Squeezebox is haunted, it will occasionally begin playing without any input from the remote or the web front end. This has been going on for a while but until last night it was simply an annoyance because it usually happened when I was out of the house or just in another

Re: [slim] Possible SB3 Bug

2007-11-20 Thread btcompute
snarlydwarf;244195 Wrote: > Is this a JVC TV? No it isn't. Do you have a serious reason for asking, or it that a joke that I don't get? -- btcompute btcompute's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread Ben Sandee
On Nov 20, 2007 4:20 PM, sikahr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I already contacted slimdevices support. Unless they filed a bug *for* you, go ahead and file a bug. I don't understand why everyone is jumping all over you honestly -- bug reports like this with detailed reproductions and calm, collect

Re: [slim] Possible SB3 Bug

2007-11-20 Thread snarlydwarf
Is this a JVC TV? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40424 _

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread sikahr
snarlydwarf;244185 Wrote: > If I understand that right, it is the following: > > 1) 1Khz sine wave at -90db. > 2) Converted with lame to an mp3. > 3) Decoded with lame back to a wav. > > Played and it had distortion on the SB3, but not on your PC. > > That points to a flaw in your methodology

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread radish
I don't see an obvious problem with the test methodology, and it does look interesting to me. Even if lame is causing problems (I'm not sure what the difference between "Distorted 1Khz (no dithering)" and "Clean 1Khz with dithering noise" is) - it's clear from the test that MAD on the PC is produc

[slim] Possible SB3 Bug

2007-11-20 Thread btcompute
Hi, Here is the odd behavior that my SB3 displays: While the SB is running but not streaming music, and the date/time screensaver is displayed, the display switches to the volume control for a couple seconds and then the display switches back to date/time. This occurs at seemingly random interva

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread sikahr
Ben Sandee;244154 Wrote: > > > It sounds to me like you've done a fair amount of analysis -- nice > work. I think you should file a bug with all the appropriate attached > data at bugs.slimdevices.com. If it's a decoder problem in the > firmware then only a Logitech employee can really contri

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread snarlydwarf
> > > A. Lame > command: lame --decode "sinus 1kHz -90dB.wav.lame.mp3" "sinus 1kHz > -90dB.wav.lame.mp3".lame16.wav > resulting File: "sinus 1kHz -90dB.wav.lame.mp3.lame16.wav" > Format 16-bit mono wav > Playing with SQ3: Distorted 1Khz (no dithering), OK for decoder without > 24 to 16 bit dithe

Re: [slim] Added Second SB3 - now stuttering & other issues

2007-11-20 Thread SuperQ
There is a network test plugin you can use to verify things are working. You should be able to do 2000Kbps at 100% with 11g. If you unplug the new one, does the old one return to working? -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http:

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread sikahr
Please try to listen, you will get clearer picture this way. sin 1KHz -80 db also have artifacts. -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevic

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread snarlydwarf
funkstar;244155 Wrote: > -why- is this a problem though? > > Sure it is a bug, but why were you testing for it? To me, it sounds a > little like the Excel bug that appeared a few months back, here some > forumulas resulting in 65,535 would appear as 100,000. > Actually I think it is less impor

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread funkstar
-why- is this a problem though? Sure it is a bug, but why were you testing for it? To me, it sounds a little like the Excel bug that appeared a few months back, here some forumulas resulting in 65,535 would appear as 100,000. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/09/26b.html Yes it is a bug,

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread Ben Sandee
On Nov 20, 2007 2:12 PM, sikahr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My conclusion: inbuilt mp3 decoder is in a way broken. It sounds to me like you've done a fair amount of analysis -- nice work. I think you should file a bug with all the appropriate attached data at bugs.slimdevices.com. If it's a

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread sikahr
Maybe, but i don't believe. I generate file with lame, no errors, on PC decoding is without problem, only one problem is decoding on squeeze. Additionally, I can generate similar file (I tried sinus 1kHz -100 db), problems haven't gone away. Regards, Nenad -- sikahr --

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread Peter
sikahr wrote: > less "technical" description of problem: > > There is a mp3 with very very low volume. > > When playing this mp3 directly with squuezebox there is a loud strange > noise (loud means louder then signal, not absolutely). > > When first decoding this mp3 on PC to wav and then playing t

Re: [slim] Can't connect to OSX Leopard slimserver

2007-11-20 Thread igroucho
Where is your gzip program? [/usr/bin/gzip] Where is your tar program? [/usr/bin/tar] Where is your unzip program? [/usr/bin/unzip] Warning: make not found in PATH Where is your make program? [] Warning: lynx not found in PATH Where is your lynx program? [] Warning: wget not found in PATH Whe

Re: [slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread sikahr
less "technical" description of problem: There is a mp3 with very very low volume. When playing this mp3 directly with squuezebox there is a loud strange noise (loud means louder then signal, not absolutely). When first decoding this mp3 on PC to wav and then playing that wav on squuezebox soun

Re: [slim] How to detect if a SB2 is on?

2007-11-20 Thread jasontemple
In case anyone is curious, it's quite straightforward. nc localhost 9090 status 00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3A7b%3A6c status exit player_name%3A192.168.1.102 player_connected%3A1 power%3A0 signalstrength%3A0 and you can read power 0 for off and power 1 for on. very easy. The plan is to use a fit-pc (

Re: [slim] How to detect if a SB2 is on?

2007-11-20 Thread jasontemple
kdf;244113 Wrote: > In your SlimServer/SqueezeCenter web UI, look in Help->Technical > Information->Command Line Interface. You'll find all that and more. > For sending the commands you work through a telnet connection or use > something like netcat (nc) to do each as a standalone command. > >

Re: [slim] Power consumption active speakers

2007-11-20 Thread Peter
mortslim wrote: > Assuming no auto-shutoff (most powered speakers don't have that > feature), I also have wondered about this issue considering that I have > zero education in electronics. I have asked a few different sources and > gotten different answers. The consensus seems to be that if the a

Re: [slim] Power consumption active speakers

2007-11-20 Thread Mark Lanctot
mortslim;244106 Wrote: > However to clarify what I have been told, even when no music is flowing > but the speakers are on, you are consuming a lot of electricity. Kind of painting with a wide brush there...it depends on the amplifier. If it's a class D, it's 80% - 95% efficient. And that's as

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread schatzy
gdg, Maybe you should apologize to the very nice folks here. You and a few others are the ones that make this forum unbearable to read at times. Also as a "Senior Member" of these forums you should know better than to be so rude. I have only had my Squeezebox for 3 months and even I know that t

[slim] Added Second SB3 - now stuttering & other issues

2007-11-20 Thread roll - gybe
Hello all, I've seen a couple threads on similar topics, but there are so many variables, I thought I would seek some help. I have just installed a second SB3. The first one was working just fine. Its location is on the other side of a thick wall from the router. Now the original SB3 is stutte

Re: [slim] How to detect if a SB2 is on?

2007-11-20 Thread kdf
In your SlimServer/SqueezeCenter web UI, look in Help->Technical Information->Command Line Interface. You'll find all that and more. For sending the commands you work through a telnet connection or use something like netcat (nc) to do each as a standalone command. -kdf -- kdf ---

Re: [slim] How to detect if a SB2 is on?

2007-11-20 Thread Pat Farrell
jasontemple wrote: > Greetings all, > I've got 3 SB2 (2 wired, one wireless). I'd like to be able to > detect if they are powered on from another PC (linux box). Is there a > socket connection that can be made to determine that? The HTML interface on the SlimServer will show you how many devic

[slim] How to detect if a SB2 is on?

2007-11-20 Thread jasontemple
Greetings all, I've got 3 SB2 (2 wired, one wireless). I'd like to be able to detect if they are powered on from another PC (linux box). Is there a socket connection that can be made to determine that? Ping always reports a reply from these always-on devices. Could there be a socket connection

Re: [slim] PlaysForSure DRM support

2007-11-20 Thread Ben Sandee
On Nov 20, 2007 9:26 AM, y360 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now that Sonos announced Napster integration, supporting MS PlaysForSure > DRM becomes a more pressing issue. I really hope Logitech doesn't spend any time on PlaysForSure -- MS themselves don't even support it on their flagship media pl

Re: [slim] Power consumption active speakers

2007-11-20 Thread mortslim
Assuming no auto-shutoff (most powered speakers don't have that feature), I also have wondered about this issue considering that I have zero education in electronics. I have asked a few different sources and gotten different answers. The consensus seems to be that if the apeaker is on, it consum

Re: [slim] PlaysForSure DRM support

2007-11-20 Thread 4mula1
y360;244056 Wrote: > Now that Sonos announced Napster integration, supporting MS PlaysForSure > DRM becomes a more pressing issue. > I hope that adding a DRM to the firmware is feasible with the current > hardware. I may be mistaken, but I vaguely remember a forum thread > where it was claimed th

Re: [slim] Replacement remote control

2007-11-20 Thread bLanark
Very impressive, thanks for the info. bLanark -- bLanark bLanark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1640 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40377

Re: [slim] PlaysForSure DRM support

2007-11-20 Thread jeffmc
y360;244056 Wrote: > Now that Sonos announced Napster integration, supporting MS PlaysForSure > DRM becomes a more pressing issue. > I hope that adding a DRM to the firmware is feasible with the current > hardware. I may be mistaken, but I vaguely remember a forum thread > where it was claimed th

[slim] Favourites - adding an Artist?

2007-11-20 Thread jimwillsher
Hi all, SB3, latest version. I have two units, a Slim and a Logitech. Is it possible to add an ARTIST as a favourite? I've pressed the Favourites button whilst navigating to Browse > Artists > MyFavouriteArtist and I get the prompt to say that it has been added. Great. BUT... How I envisaged i

Re: [slim] 10.5.1(Leopard) and SqueezeCenter

2007-11-20 Thread mario21
I installed the SC system for all users. I will get back to you this evening. Thank you! -- mario21 mario21's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/s

Re: [slim] PlaysForSure DRM support

2007-11-20 Thread CatBus
While I don't have any interest in PlaysForSure (sic) myself, I also wonder about the future of Squeezebox firmwares, when I've heard the same thing about getting a little tight on room. Here's my thought and I'd love to hear feedback from a SlimDevices person. I assume a lot of the "room" in th

Re: [slim] 10.5.1(Leopard) and SqueezeCenter

2007-11-20 Thread Michael Herger
Mario, Did you install SC system wide (for all users) or for you only? It looks as if couldn't find it's configuration file. Please try installing it for all users Could you please uninstall it, remove anything SC/SS related and try again? I updated to the latest nightly on Leopard without

Re: [slim] Stuttering m4a playback under Vista with Squeezebox

2007-11-20 Thread Xorro
How are you getting on with that? I have a spare drive which I might install on IDE and use that for Slimserver music. -- Xorro Black/Black SB3 | SS 6.5.2 | Vista Home Premium http://xorro.xpmg.co.uk Xorro's Profile: htt

Re: [slim] Stuttering m4a playback under Vista with Squeezebox

2007-11-20 Thread bradsjm
I have the same issue, I have 3 SATA drives connected to an NForce4 motherboard running RAID 5. Right now I'm using SlimServer on another server that isn't using a SATA drive to get around this issue. -- bradsjm bradsjm's

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread morris_minor
Marc Sherman;244048 Wrote: > morris_minor wrote: > > > > Us folks who've embraced the SB3 know what a quality device it is. > But > > if you aren't too computer savvy, setting it up may be a problem. I > > wonder how many SB3s will be returned by customers who haven't > > persevered (or just cou

[slim] PlaysForSure DRM support

2007-11-20 Thread y360
Now that Sonos announced Napster integration, supporting MS PlaysForSure DRM becomes a more pressing issue. I hope that adding a DRM to the firmware is feasible with the current hardware. I may be mistaken, but I vaguely remember a forum thread where it was claimed that firmware size is reaching t

Re: [slim] Interest Check: UK Silver Wired SB2

2007-11-20 Thread gorman
Well, to put it mildly, while I appreciate it from an aesthetic point of view, I believe SB3 form factor is really unadequate for most installations. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?use

Re: [slim] Replacement remote control

2007-11-20 Thread radish
And the Harmony ones (as well as some others) can download configs. I've never had to manually learn anything for mine. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http:

Re: [slim] Interest Check: UK Silver Wired SB2

2007-11-20 Thread Mark Lanctot
I believe there's immense interest in SB2s due to their form factor. When I was looking to sell either my SB2 or my SB3 due to the arrival of my Transporter, there was more interest in my SB2 than my SB3. (Ended up keeping the SB2 though.) -- Mark Lanctot -

Re: [slim] Portable squeezebox with built in speakers?

2007-11-20 Thread Mark Lanctot
sander;243895 Wrote: > I would add optional remote! I got ya covered... Mark Lanctot;243785 Wrote: > - compatibility with current SB remote, SB remote included > - compatibility with Jive remote, Jive remote NOT included It could very well use a basic "credit card"-sized remote like you see f

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread Marc Sherman
morris_minor wrote: > > Us folks who've embraced the SB3 know what a quality device it is. But > if you aren't too computer savvy, setting it up may be a problem. I > wonder how many SB3s will be returned by customers who haven't > persevered (or just couldn't be bothered) to get in running. It's

Re: [slim] The Squeezebox finally made it to Fry's

2007-11-20 Thread Mark Lanctot
iPhone;243888 Wrote: > Only real issue I see with this route is that the technology and drives > are getting cheaper all the time and people are going to say, "Why do I > need another computer, I already have one". Then there is the cost, it > pushes it above the Sonos. But surely such people do

Re: [slim] Unable to play any playlists through Squeezebox/Slimserver 6.5.4

2007-11-20 Thread Marc Sherman
gregious wrote: > This started happening to me today as well. And it's happening with > playlists I actually created using slimserver that I've had for months. > All my playlists are empty. Hello slimsupport? Issue with the new > version? This isn't slimsupport. This is slimusercommunity. You need

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread Marc Sherman
gdg wrote: > Now I can't even delete a playlist. > This is just bull. What is the problem with this company? Slimserver > started as a barely functional way to organize one's music and it's > getting worse every time a new version comes out. How is it possible > that one can't delete and artist o

Re: [slim] Flac vulnerability

2007-11-20 Thread 4mula1
Had I made vulnerability plural in my search prior to posting I would've found it... -- 4mula1 SlimServer 6.5.4 + Solaris 10 x86: Because Linux would've been too easy! 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/membe

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread Fifer
cliveb;244031 Wrote: > Therefore, when one is faced with something that looks like a lifestyle > product, the psychological instinct is to start with an assumption that > it's probably mainly form and not much function. It's just not possible > to thoroughly research every option, so a lot of peo

[slim] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2007-11-20 Thread sikahr
Procedure: 1. I generate 1KHz sinus -90db test signal with wavosaur 1.0.0.9000. File: "sinus 1kHz -90dB.wav" Format 24-bit mono wav Playing with SQ3: OK 2. I encode "sinus 1kHz -90dB.wav" to mp3 with lame 3.97 command: lame --preset insane "sinus 1kHz -90dB.wa

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread cliveb
Fifer;244023 Wrote: > Isn't it even more bizarre for people who are serious about audio to > dismiss something on aesthetic considerations? Don't serious audio > enthuisiasts make decisions based on sound quality rather than > appearance? In principle, yes. But the world is full of "cute" lifesty

Re: [slim] Stuttering m4a playback under Vista with Squeezebox

2007-11-20 Thread Xorro
I'm having the same problem on Vista, however my CDs are ripped to FLAC using Winamp. I did wonder whether it was the auto-indexing of drives that Vista does (constantly reading the drive), however I've not yet tried switching it off to see if the stuttering stops. -- Xorro Black/Black SB3 |

Re: [slim] Flac vulnerability

2007-11-20 Thread Skunk
Dateline: 11/15/2007, http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40287 -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=404

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread morris_minor
Fifer;244023 Wrote: > Isn't it even more bizarre for people who are serious about audio to > dismiss something on aesthetic considerations? Don't serious audio > enthuisiasts make decisions based on sound quality rather than > appearance? Why would a manufacturer restrict the versatility of > som

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread Fifer
cliveb;244020 Wrote: > As a serious audio component, the packaging just isn't right. The > current "cute" styling makes it *look* like a lifestyle product, and a > lot of people who are serious about sound quality will dismiss it for > that reason. *If it were packaged in a more traditional 19" b

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread sd2100
cliveb;244020 Wrote: > > Perhaps the SB3 is in danger of attempting to address two markets and > missing out on both. Exactly! It is to beautyful designed to be taken serious and to boring (all black) to be lifestile. -- sd2100

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread cliveb
Fifer;243994 Wrote: > I'm far from convinced that the lack of colour choices is a factor here. > How many home audio components offer anything other than a very limited > (or no) choice of colours? As a lifestyle product, maybe sd2100 has a point. But I don't regard myself as having the aesthetic

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread gorman
seanadams;243980 Wrote: > Indeed, the software deliberately avoids modifying any music files at > all on your disk, and this has been a conscious design principle since > version 1.0.One that should receive more praise. So get some from me: that's > a wise decision! :D -- gorman -

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread Speed
If you don't like it then use something else. -- Speed Speed's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40404 _

[slim] Flac vulnerability

2007-11-20 Thread 4mula1
http://research.eeye.com/html/advisories/published/AD20071115.html I caught the above on /. I don't download flac so I can rest easy...but I wonder if the SB/Transporter use the vulnerable library. -- 4mula1 SlimServer 6.5.4 + Solaris 10 x86: Because Linux would've been too easy! ---

Re: [slim] The Squeezebox finally made it to Fry's

2007-11-20 Thread James_B
y360;243733 Wrote: > And that's just why it might not fly with general public. Non-technical > folks need outside help to set it up and maintain it. I agree - I suspect SB is a product just too clever for the high street. Try describing what it does beyond stream music to someone who only owns a

Re: [slim] Slimserver boot vs restart

2007-11-20 Thread zkab
Please help ... I can't be the only person in the world having this problem ... -- zkab zkab's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=

Re: [slim] Each new version of slimserver seems worse...

2007-11-20 Thread gdg
haunyack;243975 Wrote: > > > So what! > Play the music and shut the f**k up (my bad bro)...not pc but wtf. > Or do what I do - go in the bathroom and turn on the shower, faucets, > block the door, flush the (toilet,boudoir) and scream at the top of > your lungs...(don't spill the pint) until i

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread bpa
At the moment I think the main factors in sales win/lose are: * price * differentiation from competition I think Logitech/Slimdevices are addressing these through Jive and a new model. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread Fifer
sd2100;243989 Wrote: > I'm very sorry :-( but Mike your answer is the typical engineers answer. > And that is not *god* enough. I don't think he ever claimed to be a deity. > If the buying process is cancelled after a quick view at the black box > it doesn't matter how good it performs sonicall

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread Paul_B
But the tarket market of the Squeezebox is for people who appreciate good quality music. If colour is the guiding principle for your buying decision and outways the sound then why are you spending so much money? Plenty of other products on the market are much cheaper versions (cos they only play M

Re: [slim] Future - no future!?

2007-11-20 Thread sd2100
mvalera;243887 Wrote: > All joking aside, colors are great but we're concentrating on a better > user experience (try the SqueezeCenter 7.0 beta, it's great) and > control (see the Jive beta). > > Who knows what the future might bring, but new colors are not in our > near future. > > Mike I'm