Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-31 Thread morberg
Pale Blue Ego;321457 Wrote: HA HA - A guy who digitized his cassettes and 8-Tracks but then doesn't realize that bits are bits. He correctly frees the music by digitizing to uncompressed WAV, then locks it up again on a spinning disc (CD). Pale Blue Ego;322803 Wrote: Ha ha, I just got

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-31 Thread trotsky10
I also do not use my DVD/BR player anymore. Since I purchased a Network Media Tank device I ripped all my DVDs and BR films and home movies etc onto the xTb hard disk (could stream but only have wireless G at the moment (but I am sure that will change) and that is not good enough for the HD

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-31 Thread Pale Blue Ego
morberg;324478 Wrote: So tell me again why you lock up your movie bits on spinning discs but not your music bits ;) (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Mostly because even if I really like a movie I won't watch it more than a few times. So, spinning discs are fine for that. Music is different. There

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-31 Thread Pale Blue Ego
x94blair3;324342 Wrote: For example HD streaming movie content rarely (ever?) includes HD audio sound. In reality, that's one of the most impressive aspects of my blu-ray entertainment experience. The surround affects are amazing. Digital delivery effectively eliminates that. And yes, I

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-31 Thread trotsky10
Pale Blue Ego;324584 Wrote: No, you're right on the money. Blu-Ray is all about high-quality sound and vodeo. Streaming video is about delivering a quasi-watchable product in the least number of bits. Not sure I agree completely with this. I can stream HD 1080p BD rips fine connected via

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-30 Thread x94blair3
relen;322977 Wrote: My expectation is that BRD will be a lukewarm success, not because of the death of packed media, but because people just don't think they need it. Stick a good scaler on the end of a good (not $50) DVD player and you can't tell the difference really. I don't agree with a

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-30 Thread exile
x94blair3;324342 Wrote: A good source encoded in 1080p, on a calibrated 1080p display will look better than an upscaled DVD...period. -Nick You'll get no argument from anyone on that point ( i think). I'm a tv editor and so professionally I work with pristine HD imagery every day but in

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-29 Thread jharo
autopilot;323001 Wrote: I would say at least another 5 years before we see a truly significant reduction in optical media for movies (at least enough to qualify as dead) and a mass mainstream move to streaming. Of course it will be dead one day, everything is, but declaring DVD/BR dead now

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread MrSinatra
i think cd/dvd is a fantastic long term backup solution. sure, eventually we'll all have terrabyte raid storage in our homes standard, but i have peace of mind knowing i own the album, (or whatever), and i frequently enjoy the booklets info in them. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using:

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread Nonreality
MrSinatra;322870 Wrote: i think cd/dvd is a fantastic long term backup solution. sure, eventually we'll all have terrabyte raid storage in our homes standard, but i have peace of mind knowing i own the album, (or whatever), and i frequently enjoy the booklets info in them.I don't miss my

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread moley6knipe
Good thread. I still buy CDs, and will continue to do so until the stuff I like is available as a lossless DRM free download. So for me that's loads of Americana (for want of a better word) - Bon Iver, Silver Jews; stuff like that. For the moment the best quality I can get is ripping it

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread autopilot
I personally really hate CD's and im now at a stage where i have not touched one in about 2 years (ipods in the cars, SB's around the house and sometimes my mobile). Its not just the convenience, i actually really hate CD's - they are horrible to hold, horrible look at, scratch horribly and are a

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread relen
I've never understood why some people still go so fuzzy about vinyl. During my original studio career I was trained as a cutting engineer - definitely in the Dark Arts Department - and I never liked what I heard back from my discs or anyone else's if I had the original master tape to refer to. I

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread exile
jharo;322798 Wrote: What people dont seem to get is that all physical media is dead. CD, DVD,and yes even Blue Ray. j Amen to that. Right now we're in a period in which some folks still feel a need to possess cds to have perfect lossless versions of their music. But I would guess in a

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread relen
I certainly think packaged media for audio are on the way out. Hi-def video discs will take a bit longer to be superseded - assuming that's what people actually want. Most people are happy with DVD - a resolution which is eminently downloadable. But if you want the content of a BRD, you will be

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread autopilot
jharo Wrote: What people dont seem to get is that all physical media is dead. CD, DVD,and yes even Blue Ray. I'm going to [mostly] disagree here :) While i agree that one day all physical media will of course be completely obsolete in favour of downloading and streaming, unlike music,

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-24 Thread jharo
What people dont seem to get is that all physical media is dead. CD, DVD,and yes even Blue Ray. Why use physical atoms to move digital bits? Plastic is dead... Negroponte said as much 13 years ago in his book 'Being Digital'. Despite the fact that (for some reason) i still have a wall of

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-24 Thread Pale Blue Ego
jharo;322798 Wrote: his year, I'm embarking on the official migration off of plastic DVD's. I have a LOT of those things sitting on shelves too... Ha ha, I just got done migrating my VHS tapes to DVD. I think I'll stick with plastic discs for a while, at least for movies. Very glad to get

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-23 Thread corbey
tyler_durden;322232 Wrote: Look at the digital forum at DIYAudio.com. You'll rarely see SB, Sonos, or other server based systems mentioned, but there's tons of stuff about USB DACs, sound cards, etc., that people are trying to use to make a system that will ultimately have 1/2 the

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-22 Thread tyler_durden
Look at the digital forum at DIYAudio.com. You'll rarely see SB, Sonos, or other server based systems mentioned, but there's tons of stuff about USB DACs, sound cards, etc., that people are trying to use to make a system that will ultimately have 1/2 the performance of an SB and none of it's

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-22 Thread gungrog
tyler_durden;322232 Wrote: Look at the digital forum at DIYAudio.com. You'll rarely see SB, Sonos, or other server based systems mentioned, but there's tons of stuff about USB DACs, sound cards, etc., that people are trying to use to make a system that will ultimately have 1/2 the

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-21 Thread Peter
JJZolx wrote: Since then, however, many have abandoned the approach in favor of a much simpler PC based system with pro soundcard or (increasingly) high end USB DAC. And if they're just now getting into it, they're much more likely to start with that type of setup. Somehow I find the

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-20 Thread Pale Blue Ego
More cluelessness from the comments section of that article: Abandon the CD? NEVER. I have transcribed my entire reel to reel, eight track, LP, 45 and cassette collection to CD. In the .WAV format too so I get all the music, not some compressed/decompressed equivilent of the real thing. HA HA -

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-20 Thread jh901
LOL. In the 1st few weeks of my transition to music server, I have discovered more music than anytime in the last few years combined. There is no better way to FREE your music than to be able to scroll through an entire library and add a track here or album there. I don't think many folks

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-20 Thread Howard Passman
jh901;321510 Wrote: LOL. In the 1st few weeks of my transition to music server, I have discovered more music than anytime in the last few years combined. There is no better way to FREE your music than to be able to scroll through an entire library and add a track here or album there.

[slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-19 Thread jimzak
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-9991658-47.html?tag=nefd.riv It's a blog with about 70+ folks posting about the way they listen to music now. -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org jimzak's Profile:

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-19 Thread TerryC
A better title would be Audiophiles are over CD players. The cost of an audiophile grade CD transport is pretty hard to justify in comparison to the utility of a computer based player. I'm still buying several CDs a month, but will probably never buy another CD player. -- TerryC

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-19 Thread jh901
Yes, indeed. Over cd PLAYERS. Not CDs. They titled it wrong and that could give the impression that the audiophile community is finding quality recordings for download. I still dream of the day when I can buy the finest mastering of any album in FLAC with the click of a mouse. I think almost

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-19 Thread JJZolx
What is your primary digital front end? CD player: 34% Hi-rez disc player: 11% iPod: 4% Music Server (computer-based): 36% Music Server (dedicated: Sooloos, Sonos, etc.): 10% Other: 3% The most relevant part of this Stereophile pole to these forum may be: Music Server

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-19 Thread Pale Blue Ego
The most amazing thing from the article was this: I cannot imagine using a music server anytime soon, and sound quality issues have nothing to do with that. I like picking music from my collection. It's a touchy-feely, organic process. One album leads to the next, or I accidentally find

Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-19 Thread MrSinatra
i have to say that there is something magical about vinyl, but cds? not as much. still, i want a cd copy even if i never use it. but honestly, are ipods new? most people who are into music transitioned out of cds as the medium to listen to it regularly for some time. -- MrSinatra