Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-17 Thread Peter
egd wrote: iPhone;340681 Wrote: You have had it over three months and haven't asked for much help. Did you e-mailed or called Tech Support for help? Funny that you didn't use the 30 day no questions asked return policy.I did the same thing - I bought it based on my experience with multiple

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-17 Thread Nonreality
peter;341022 Wrote: Howard Passman wrote:[color=blue] peter;340849 Wrote: SB's aren't really for youngsters. They become interesting when you own a house and want to listen to the same music in many locations. Regards, Peter What youngsters are you talking about? I use mine in

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-17 Thread egd
peter;341274 Wrote: With 64 posts to just this forum in the last month or so, one would think you could've found a spare 15 minutes ;)If 15 minutes was all it took I might have had the inclination. -- egd Internet forums: conclusive proof depth of gene pool is indeed variable, monkeys

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-17 Thread maggior
Nonreality;341286 Wrote: What youngsters are you talking about? I use mine in one location and, yes I'm not a youngster but it would have been perfect when I was one. My son loves it and he is 15. It would be great for anyone that wants to integrate their computer and stereo and not just

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Peter
Howard Passman wrote: I work for a company that sells BMW automobiles. We get a lot of complaints on the iDrive feature. Is it cool? Yes. Can you do more with it than without it? Yes. Is it necessarily progress. No, I don't believe so. At what point would you decide that enough is

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Howard Passman
peter;340849 Wrote: Howard Passman wrote:[color=blue] Large parts? Not really. Not the places where people actually live. And you would be surprised to see how quickly (cheap) modern technology penetrates into the third world these days. In many places a mobile phone is a lot cheaper

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Nonreality
Themis;340691 Wrote: Well, not THAT self-contained : it still needs a server software installation (or a music share server software), it depends on the OS, the firewall, the router and several other software in the same way SqueezeCenter and SB/TP do. It also has software and firmware

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Fifer
It's a good job some ordinary folk managed to persevere with fiddling about with the cat's whisker in the crystal set decades back ... -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread maggior
Howard Passman;340882 Wrote: snip My son, who is scary smart and probably wouldn't have an issue, thinks the thing is way too much trouble when he can liten to his iPod, which I just found out has Pandora, or his computer. Believe me, I've tried to get him hooked, but to no avail. I

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Dogberry2
Complaints about technology have a long history, probably going back to the invention of the wheel. Some people have difficulty using a screwdriver, and never do learn which direction tightens or loosens. Millions of people using VCRs and DVD players had fits trying to figure out how to hook them

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Peter
Howard Passman wrote: peter;340849 Wrote: Howard Passman wrote:[color=blue] Large parts? Not really. Not the places where people actually live. And you would be surprised to see how quickly (cheap) modern technology penetrates into the third world these days. In many places a mobile

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread lanierb
Dogberry2;340997 Wrote: [see Dogberry2's post above] Awesome post Dogberry! -- lanierb lanierb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5566 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread androidtopp
Dogberry2;340997 Wrote: When such a supposed adult instead refuses to listen or follow directions or make any effort to work with the support staff on diagnosing and resolving the problem, but simply throws a tantrum and threatens to toss the product in the trash, and then follows that

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Pat Farrell
Fifer wrote: It's a good job some ordinary folk managed to persevere with fiddling about with the cat's whisker in the crystal set decades back ... Many decades back :-) My dad built one for me when I was a kid. He was a geek, and did it the old way. It was cool. Of course, at the time, you

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Howard Passman
Nonreality;340888 Wrote: Yeah but we slapped you a bit too. :) Darn, you did didn't you :-) I forgive you -- Howard Passman Sorry slow to respond. I don't spend that much time online and God knows I can't type.

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Howard Passman
maggior;340983 Wrote: BTW Howard, your signature becomes more inaccurate the by the day :-). You have become quite an active participant in these forums. See what a bad influence you guys are on me :-) Well, that and business is slow. The typing part still goes. :-) -- Howard

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread Howard Passman
Dogberry2;340997 Wrote: However, when an ostensible adult buys a product that clearly and obviously is advanced technology, newly developed and just released on the market, one would expect a certain level of awareness that its set up and configuration might require knowledge and effort.

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-16 Thread philippe_44
I have duets and a boom and really do love them - I'm rediscovering my music. Anyway, at the risk of sounding arrogant I tend to believe that people (we) are becoming lazy. We refuse to use our brain and to try to just process what we have in front of our eyes. We wait for somebody else to do it

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-15 Thread Themis
andlauer;340357 Wrote: To quote Steven Moore: it just doesn't work sometimes.To be honest, no complicated software-upgradable/hardware bundle works all the time in any case. It's the same with software players on PC/MACs, Sonos, SB, even muy PS3 and my Denon 3808 have occasionnal dropouts and

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-15 Thread androidtopp
I definitely agree with Themis. My calculator always works. And my computer sometimes has problems. But you sure can do a hell of a lot more with the computer. I think I might be more willing to accept difficulties from stuff like this becuase the payoff is so great. Yes, my CD player has never

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-15 Thread Howard Passman
I work for a company that sells BMW automobiles. We get a lot of complaints on the iDrive feature. Is it cool? Yes. Can you do more with it than without it? Yes. Is it necessarily progress. No, I don't believe so. At what point would you decide that enough is enough? When you have to

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-15 Thread iPhone
phaedra;340113 Wrote: Guys, I bought the Squeeze box Duet over the Sonos some 3 months ago, BIG mistake, but the hardware seemed so much better. Running on MacBook/MacPro Leopard/iTunes8,Squeezecenter 7.2. The autorescan never worked since v 7.0.1 for me, now more issues during

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-15 Thread Themis
iPhone;340681 Wrote: Yes Sonos is all self-containedWell, not THAT self-contained : it still needs a server software installation (or a music share server software), it depends on the OS, the firewall, the router and several other software in the same way SqueezeCenter and SB/TP do. It also

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-15 Thread Howard Passman
iPhone;340681 Wrote: My sister and mother have NO netwrok or computer skills other then knowing how to turn them on, and they enjoy their Slim Devices products. And when they do have an issue or problem they e-mail or call tech support which has been maybe once or twice due to storms (DHCP

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-15 Thread egd
iPhone;340681 Wrote: You have had it over three months and haven't asked for much help. Did you e-mailed or called Tech Support for help? Funny that you didn't use the 30 day no questions asked return policy.I did the same thing - I bought it based on my experience with multiple SB3s and a

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread Chris Laplante
For that matter, where's your trash... I'm not proud and mine work great. -Chris On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:59 PM, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13-Sep-08, at 10:39 PM, phaedra wrote: Well, in the RUBBISH BIN it all went At least return it or recycle it, instead of adding more to

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread Pat Farrell
phaedra wrote: I bought the Squeeze box Duet over the Sonos some 3 months ago, BIG mistake They have a 30 day, money back, no questions asked return policy. Why did you wait so long. And as KDF said, recycle, resell or give it away, there is too much stuff in the bins already. -- Pat Farrell

[slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread phaedra
Guys, I bought the Squeeze box Duet over the Sonos some 3 months ago, BIG mistake, but the hardware seemed so much better. Running on MacBook/MacPro Leopard/iTunes8,Squeezecenter 7.2. The autorescan never worked since v 7.0.1 for me, now more issues during installation, the remote will not

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread amcluesent
So why are you so sure the Sonos will work for you? -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52598

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread PLynas
You sound very angry. You're also making a mistake. I wish I had that much money to throw in the bin, how about I pay your postage and you send it to me instead? -- PLynas PLynas's Profile:

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread bhaagensen
phaedra;340113 Wrote: Well, in the RUBBISH BIN it all went, I am sick of products that never work and spending frustrating weeks trying to fix something that should WORK OUT OF THE BOX! Hi, sorry to hear that you've been having so many problems. Its a shame as lots of people, including

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread egd
Not being a very patient individual myself I can sympathise somewhat with Phaedra's frustration. When I choose to listen to music, it's generally because I've found or made some spare time and want to RELAX. Troubleshooting one's audio setup at such times serves to exact the opposite response.

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Wired SB3 using IR remote certainly has fewer potential problems than wifi player with wifi remote. Mostly seems like wifi is the culprit, though. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile:

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread andlauer
I agree with egd: I would have recommended Slim Devices a year ago, but not anymore. New versions of Squeezecenter do not seem to be tested thouroughly enough before they are released. In fact, Squeezecenter is just like a banana: it ripens at the customer's. JC -- andlauer

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread Fifer
Are we really supposed to give credence to the advice of someone who rubbishes a company's entire product line after a bad experience of one sample of one product and who claims to have binned it whilst it was still within warranty. Sorry, but I think I'd be more inclined to take Harpo Marx

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread lanierb
andlauer;340216 Wrote: I agree with egd: I would have recommended Slim Devices a year ago, but not anymore. New versions of Squeezecenter do not seem to be tested thouroughly enough before they are released. In fact, Squeezecenter is just like a banana: it ripens at the customer's. JC It

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread Themis
Good luck with Sonos. And don't forget to go and take a look at their forums for eventual software problems before you buy a product... Pity, too late, you already bought one. :) -- Themis SB3 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread maggior
At first I thought this was a dead thread that was brought back to life. I remember one other person having a reaction like this and many of us offered to come pick up his trash. Thankfully these types of posts are extremely rare. When I make large investments like this, I always make sure I

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread Steven Moore
andlauer;340216 Wrote: I agree with egd: I would have recommended Slim Devices a year ago, but not anymore. New versions of Squeezecenter do not seem to be tested thouroughly enough before they are released. In fact, Squeezecenter is just like a banana: it ripens at the customer's. JC I

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread G-dude
betcha wifi is the problem...I plugged in and opened ports (as per owner's manual...although I didn't see it when I first did install) and it has worked and worked and worked since I agree troubleshooting takes fun out of music and I am glad I had the patience at first cuz Squeezebox is

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread andlauer
Hello lanierb, lanierb;340257 Wrote: It sucks that *you* have had a problem... First of all, thank you for your compassion! lanierb;340257 Wrote: ...you are one measly person. However, it will take more than adding insult to injury to change my opinion about Slim devices. To quote Steven

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-14 Thread Howard Passman
...having persevered with my original DUET I now enjoy 2 Duets and the Boom, but in no way do I belittle anyone who has problems with the DUET. The manual is poor and the set up is painful...unless it just worked for you. As for ongoing issues, I constantly have little things happen and I just

Re: [slim] Do not buy any Squeezebox products, my advice!

2008-09-13 Thread kdf
On 13-Sep-08, at 10:39 PM, phaedra wrote: Well, in the RUBBISH BIN it all went At least return it or recycle it, instead of adding more to landfills. Sick of people who just toss thing out when they are done. sorry...just venting. :) -kdf ___