Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-04 Thread Wirrunna
I agree with erland and Siduhe. A separate branch supporting iTunes tags and look feel of doing things would improve marketability of the SlimServer/Squeezebox system by leveraging off the huge installed base of iTunes libraries. Down here in Australia, Squeezeboxes were only available from two

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread Listener
erland;224500 Wrote: IMO the problem isn't the open source model, the problem is that there needs to be a single person/group that decides how all users wants it to work. As you have already said, the current SlimServer tries to make everyone happy, the result is that it makes some

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread erland
Listener;224509 Wrote: iTunes is one music player program that has a decent user interface. Its design decisions are not inevitable in a program with a good user interface design. Bill I think we are talking about two different things: 1. A good user interface design and user friendly

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread amcluesent
But Apple still have to make and publish on-line 'how-to' videos for itunes/ipod, so there must be noobs who don't find it easy. Apple's 'we know best' attitude is why itunes automagically alters tags and moves files around. Not what I want! But as I use customised CustomBrowse and MusicInfoScr

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread Michael Herger
Well, the V7 beta interface is different... That's just a new skin. It's the same interface. A new skin doesn't automatically meen the same interface. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread Siduhe
erland;224500 Wrote: I think you are correct in that combining both these user categories in the same software can be extremely hard, so branching a version to support category 1 might be a good idea. Or maybe even build something completely new to support this category. However, I don't

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread Michael Herger
Well, the V7 beta interface is different... To give some more details about the changes: one target is to simplify the access to SlimServer by hiding the numerous, but rather seldom used items. The main menu should be much easierly accessible than before. If you're interested in how it's

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread Marc Sherman
erland wrote: IMO the problem isn't the open source model, the problem is that there needs to be a single person/group that decides how all users wants it to work. As you have already said, the current SlimServer tries to make everyone happy, the result is that it makes some advanced

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread erland
Marc Sherman;224561 Wrote: erland wrote: IMO the problem isn't the open source model, the problem is that there needs to be a single person/group that decides how all users wants it to work. As you have already said, the current SlimServer tries to make everyone happy, the

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread Listener
erland;224520 Wrote: I think we are talking about two different things: 1. A good user interface design and user friendly interface 2. A user interface with a lot of customization possibilities I'm just saying that these two solutions might be hard to combine. It is not an impossible task

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread kdf
On 2-Sep-07, at 1:32 PM, Listener wrote: A good design would have provided some feedback that SS was still scanning and when the scanning was done, would have updated the scree A progress bar for scanning status does exist, but it is not part of the new default skin just yet. You'll

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-02 Thread Michael Herger
A progress bar for scanning status does exist, but it is not part of the new default skin just yet. Oh, thanks for the pointer! I'll add it to my todo list right now. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

[slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-01 Thread jimyyz
I've only had my SB3 for a couple of weeks and I love everything about it but the interface. i am actually quite tech savvy but, man, i haven't seen anything so complicated and convoluted since... well... Even the most basic tasks like saving a radio station as a favorite is a complex ordeal.

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-01 Thread Eric Seaberg
Have you 'personalized' any menus on the SB3? That's the first thing I did after spending time figuring out what I liked and didn't like! That saves a LOT of time moving around with the remote looking at the screen. The stuff I need to get to A LOT is real close to NOW PLAYING, either up or

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-01 Thread amcluesent
You think something would have been learned Well, the V7 beta interface is different... -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-01 Thread Ben Sandee
On 9/1/07, jimyyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You think something would have been learned from the the wild popularity and success of ipods and itunes. In fact, iTunes should be the model for which the interface should be built. Its simple and it works beautifully. iTunes is only good if it

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-01 Thread JJZolx
amcluesent;224419 Wrote: You think something would have been learned Well, the V7 beta interface is different... That's just a new skin. It's the same interface. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile:

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-01 Thread Siduhe
Jimyyz, hi and welcome. First up - lots of people who come to Slimserver and the SB feel exactly the same way - if you have a look at the forums, there are quite a few threads on similar lines. You were more polite than some have been. Slim Devices (IMHO one of the most customer focused

Re: [slim] Interface and Operation: A Dog's Breakfast (Rant)

2007-09-01 Thread johnny66
As a new user I'm afraid I would have to second jimyyz's rant. I'm a network admin by profession so I'm no stranger to complexity or scanty documentation. I appreciate and applaud SlimDevices' striving for extensibility, open source development and cross platform deployment. That said -- as