[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-03 Thread Diarmuid
Michaelwagner Wrote: And aside from the legal niceties, it isn't clear that the musicians benefit from the sales on that site. Oh, to answer the original question, I do most of my buying these days at a second hand music store. It's a chain that exists, AFAIK, only in S. Ontario.

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-03 Thread Michaelwagner
Diarmuid Wrote: you buy second hand CD's !! You do realise that the musicians get none of your money either? On the contrary. This is like saying the used car market is unimportant to manufacturers of new cars. A used marketplace enhances the value of products. Suppose you buy the album

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-03 Thread Diarmuid
Michaelwagner Wrote: On the contrary. This is like saying the used car market is unimportant to manufacturers of new cars. Which is not what I said. I said that your money is not going to musicians. What you said is true but you can also draw similar analogies with Allofmp3.

Re: [slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-03 Thread Jack Coates
On 7/3/06, Diarmuid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Finally I have spent 1000's Euro on CDs over the past 10 years but I'msick of the attitude of the recording industry. I'm done with their greed and I despise they way they have politicians in their backpocket, willing to force through whatever the

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread funkstar
never bought music from an online store such as iTunes, never intend to either. Still get all my CDs from local indipendant, high street chains, and online retailers. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile:

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread cparker
deserttaxguy Wrote: I dont like the rights management issues with the common commercial digital vendors and was wondering what the community suggests as the favorite sites. I just looked around one which I didnt like too much, but it did have total rights to the buyer of the tracks for all

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread mlmurray
Recently, I've used a couple of online stores that specialize in second-hand CD's. I've had very good experiences with them - the CD's I've received have been virtually indistinguishable from brand new - especially since I usually just rip them (in flac) to my hard drive and then store the

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread dangerous_dom
I use AllOfMP3 from time to time. It's what i like to call 'protest purchacing', because the more the record industry see's people buying from them, the more likely they will be to sort it out and offer better quality downloads at decent prices. Also, even if the artist only got 1 penny from

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread cparker
Michaelwagner Wrote: A word to the wise, or at least the wary. If you scan the forums, you'll find many posts about the legality (or lack thereof) of allofmp3. And aside from the legal niceties, it isn't clear that the musicians benefit from the sales on that site. AllofMP3.com sells

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread Michaelwagner
cparker Wrote: You cant tell me the artist would get another £6 benefit out of it. I wouldn't tell you that, because it's not true. But they do get some money from CD sales. Artists make their money out of airtime payments and merchandising anyway Now that's not true. A goodly bit of their

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread cparker
Ok, here is my final input on this, taken from; http://blog.outer-court.com/forum/25240.html The record company foots the bill for production of the CD. That includes recording, producing, and artwork (for the CD). They expect the artist to help pay these expenses, so they arrange for an

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread bephillips
If you want to screw the RIAA while supporting the artists, you may want to consider http://lala.com (currently USA only). Trade used CDs, $1.50 for each trade including postage. The founder claims to give 20% of the profit to the artists who's music is being traded, or in cases where that isn't

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread radish
There are plenty of artists who get no income from airplay because they're not played on the radio. They get all their income from sales, period. Sure it's a small proportion of the total retail cost of the CD, but it's 100% of their income. I know this for a fact because I know several artists

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread radish
Its a case of AllofMp3.com bringing the free market to the consumer and about time to! In the same way the guy selling discount laptops at the local pub is bringing the free market to the consumer? -- radish radish's

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread cparker
radish Wrote: There are plenty of artists who get no income from airplay because they're not played on the radio. They get all their income from sales, period. Sure it's a small proportion of the total retail cost of the CD, but it's 100% of their income. I know this for a fact because I

Re: [slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting Michaelwagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): A word to the wise, or at least the wary. If you scan the forums, you'll find many posts about the legality (or lack thereof) of allofmp3. And aside from the legal niceties, it isn't clear that the musicians benefit from the sales on that

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread azinck3
cparker Wrote: In Canada it's ASCAP; I'm not sure in the U.S. When you steal music, you're not hurting the artist, you're hurting the record company, and as I said above, paybacks are a bi_ch Artists and consumers alike have been ripped off by record companies for many years. Now

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread Michaelwagner
cparker Wrote: It's the Royalties. Royalties are earned every time an artist's song is played on the radio or TV, as long as the artist wrote the song. If someone else wrote the song and the band took that song and recorded it, the band makes no royalties. The writer of the song does. This

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-02 Thread Michaelwagner
cparker Wrote: Ok, here is my final input on this, taken from; http://blog.outer-court.com/forum/25240.html Hardly an authoritative source. It's just some guy spouting off on a blog. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's

[slim] Re: Wheres everybody buying music now?

2006-07-01 Thread JJZolx
deserttaxguy Wrote: I dont like the rights management issues with the common commercial digital vendors and was wondering what the community suggests as the favorite sites. I just looked around one which I didnt like too much, but it did have total rights to the buyer of the tracks for all