Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-09-18 Thread RealRedHair
For me Pandora works partly. I can create new channels but I cannot listen to my favorite channels as set up online afterwards. So somehow I are connected but not fully. -- RealRedHair RealRedHair's Profile:

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-08-18 Thread kuntakinte
SilverRS8;257684 Wrote: I used 'hotspot shield lauch' a webvpn solution. The vpn is set up with a server in the US and also proxied through it. I am also using hotspot shield to listen to pandora on my pc/laptop. However, is it possible to get hotspot shield to work with slimcenter on a NAS

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-08-18 Thread SilverRS8
kuntakinte;330279 Wrote: I am also using hotspot shield to listen to pandora on my pc/laptop. However, is it possible to get hotspot shield to work with slimcenter on a NAS or Windows Homeserver? Sadly no. Hotshield is a web based vpn. SC outbound streaming traffic isn't proxied through

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-02-27 Thread sand
Surprise.. It's been blocked.. -- sand Two Squeezebox 3 QNAP TS-109 Seagate ES 500GB SlimServer Version: 6.5.4 - 12568 - Debian - EN - utf8 Server IP address: 192.168.1.4 Perl Version: 5.8.8 arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.41

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-19 Thread Rasso01
Hi All try Globalpandora.com -- Rasso01 Rasso01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10224 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-17 Thread willyhoops
I don't understand this. It looks like this is for browsing in a window where the url you connect to is different from the url you are seeing so you can beat the work firewall etc. And they can pay for it by putting advertising banners into the page. But for squeezebox (I have no interest in

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-16 Thread gorman
amcluesent;257515 Wrote: through squeezenetwork it has never stopped working At least part of the SB3 connection to Pandora makes calls to a API services on the Squeezenetwork. Maybe this is sufficient 'proxy' for Pandora to be happy the user is in the USA?I suggest this kind of discussion

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-15 Thread Jitterbug
Anyone know of similiar workaround for Rhapsody? -- Jitterbug Jitterbug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41900

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-15 Thread smc2911
Jitterbug;259132 Wrote: Anyone know of similiar workaround for Rhapsody?Rhapsody works fine through SC7 or SqueezeNetwork outside the US, as does Slacker. To the best of my knowledge, Rhapsody don't even do IP address filtering, but they do ask for a US address when you sign up. Slacker does

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-15 Thread smc2911
Here's a post about Pandora that may be of interest: http://www.digitalalchemy.tv/2007/05/how-to-listen-to-pandora-from-outside.html -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-12 Thread TCM
There's another thread discussing a Pandora-alternativ 'here' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42023). Anybody clever enough to get that working with the Squeezebox? -- TCM 'Squeezebox 3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) - 'Trends Audio TA-10.1'

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-12 Thread amcluesent
through squeezenetwork it has never stopped working At least part of the SB3 connection to Pandora makes calls to a API services on the Squeezenetwork. Maybe this is sufficient 'proxy' for Pandora to be happy the user is in the USA? -- amcluesent

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-12 Thread smc2911
Pandora was cut off from Australia about 9 months ago and kept working for me on the Squeezebox thanks to the routing via Squeezenetwork. The only problem then was when my subscription expired, I couldn't log into Pandora to renew! That's when a work proxy server in the US can come in handy...

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-12 Thread SilverRS8
smc2911;257524 Wrote: Pandora was cut off from Australia about 9 months ago and kept working for me on the Squeezebox thanks to the routing via Squeezenetwork. The only problem then was when my subscription expired, I couldn't log into Pandora to renew! That's when a work proxy server in the

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-12 Thread -Stef-
SilverRS8;257558 Wrote: Thx. I read your post. Subscribed me through a proxy and Pandora works on my SB ;-) Living in the netherlands. For web pandora I now use globalpandora.com. Frank Which proxy is that? I'd like to know, as I live in the Netherlands as well and I still hate being

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-12 Thread -Stef-
)p(;257600 Wrote: globalpandora.com will do it I think as you can do it all through the flash interface if I recall correctly. I am also a happy Pandora listener from the Netherlands ;) peter Welkom. :) I am looking for a way to listen to Pandora via my SB3 and not via the web interface,

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-12 Thread SilverRS8
I used 'hotspot shield lauch' a webvpn solution. The vpn is set up with a server in the US and also proxied through it. When activated, www.pandora.com works just fine. I subscibed on this site because i trust my creditcard data more to pandora.com than to globalpandora.com. Frank --

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-10 Thread brucenotts
Guys, just thought you'd be interested to hear the reply I got from Pandora re: the recent news. It might be good to get some support through the petition too link is at the end of the quote. Cheers, J. Reply: Thanks for your note and your understanding Jon. Blocking our site from UK use is

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-10 Thread yockers
Signed it. If you're in the UK and reading this, you have a duty to sign it too ! I want my Pandora back. sob sob. -- yockers yockers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5075 View this thread:

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-10 Thread Quasarpod
So we're losing Pandora in the UK. Can anyone tell me if the info on this website will allow us to continue receiving Pandora on Squeezebox in the UK? http://openpandora.blogspot.com/2007/06/complete-guide-for-using-openpandora.html Best wishes -- Quasarpod

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-10 Thread simbo
Quasarpod;256705 Wrote: Can anyone tell me if the info on this website will allow us to continue receiving Pandora on Squeezebox in the UK? I don't think so. This changes the proxy used by IE on your PC but cannot control your SB as it connects directly to your router. You could, however,

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-09 Thread Jungle
Ramage;255869 Wrote: Deano, did you get a refund? I had an email from Pandora last night offering me a refund on the unused portion of my subscription despite not having asked for one - can't say much fairer than that. I intend keeping the remainder of my subscription running to see if I can

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-09 Thread yockers
I'd be interested to find out exactly how much the record companies where after. How much, exactly, is too much ? How inventive where Pandora in their negotiations ? After all, our saved radio stations would be valuable information to a record companies marketing department. And I was always

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-09 Thread Siduhe
Yockers, The actual royalty payments are fixed by the UK Copyright Tribunal - no room for negotiation. The problem is that the royalty format put forward in the UK by the MCPS/PRS doesn't take account of the Pandora model - it is a 'per song' format but is required each time a song is played.

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-09 Thread yockers
Siduhe, Thanks for that detailed response. At 8.5p per song, per stream, per user, I can see why Pandora had issue. Imagine if a regular FM Radio station had to pay per listener, per song, per play ! We'd never hear a single song played. -- yockers

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-09 Thread Siduhe
It's 0.085 pence (about a twelfth of a pence), not 8.5p. But it still adds up...as in the example below: 6 million songs (200,000 users x 30 songs) per month is £510,000 -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile:

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-09 Thread cliveb
Siduhe;256411 Wrote: It's 0.085 pence (about a twelfth of a pence), not 8.5p. But it still adds up...as in the example below: 6 million songs (200,000 users x 30 songs) per month is £510,000 Actually if we're going to nit-pick, it's 510,000 pence (ie. £5,100). But that doesn't alter the

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-09 Thread Ramage
cliveb;256441 Wrote: Actually if we're going to nit-pick, it's 510,000 pence (ie. £5,100). But that doesn't alter the fact that the powers that be have definitely shot themselves in the foot. Put another way if each listener gets 80 songs per day (4hrs @ 3mins per song) = 2400 a month then

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-09 Thread Siduhe
cliveb;256441 Wrote: Actually if we're going to nit-pick, it's 510,000 pence (ie. £5,100). But that doesn't alter the fact that the powers that be have definitely shot themselves in the foot. *raises eyes heavenwards at self* you are, of course, right. I thought for a minute that I might

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-09 Thread NMarshall
I have also just purchased a Squeezebox solely to stream from Pandora in the UK...I assume that the email from Tim Westergren was accurate when he said that he would be blocking UK IP addresses.if anyone has a workaround, would be seriously grateful for a private email Neil -- NMarshall

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread amcluesent
And then they complain about piracy Yep, and with the RIAA tilting at 'fair use' now too, you may as well just join in with the pirates! -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile:

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread Ramage
Deano;255737 Wrote: This is part of an email I just received from Pandora: This is an email I hoped I would never have to send. Pandora will stop streaming to the UK as of January 15th, 2008. We know there is a lot of support from listeners and artists in the UK for Pandora

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread itstom
Typical - I renewed my subscription only this weekend!! Chances of a refund?! -- itstom itstom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7833 View this thread:

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread Deano
No refund as yet, although I'm sure they will provide one, when the time comes. Part of me is just hoping it will continue working on the SB. Don't know why it would. Are there any alternatives in the UK? Rhapsody, Slacker now Pandora are all US only. -- Deano

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread Siduhe
Another spectacular own goal by the PPL (which represents the record labels) and the MCPS/PRS Alliance (which represents music publishers). A lot of it is to do with the way Pandora operates (individual and specialised streams for users) - I understand the licences being demanded in the UK are

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread jasonhill
I have just replied to Tim to see if they are refunding or not, not that it's the money I'm upset about - I can't lose Pandora! -- jasonhill jasonhill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14898 View

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread bonze
ar$e!! :( So all we have now is Last.fm ?? But for how long? -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 15861 - Windows Server 2003 - EN - cp1252 QNAP TS-101 (2.1.1 build 0827T) - SlimServer 6.5.4 3 x wireless SB3

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread Siduhe
This isn't anything that Logitech can control. Pandora has taken a business decision that it cannot meet the licence fees that are being demanded by the record labels and publishers representatives in the UK and is withdrawing entirely from the UK market. They did something similar in the rest

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread iceled
Hi all, I've been saving-up to get a squeezebox specifically for listening to Pandora. Just as I was about to buy it, I get this email explaining that the service to the UK will be discontinued. What's the score? Will it really dump people who've paid out for the hardware and subscriptions to

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread iceled
Seeing as though slingbox users are prepared to pay a subscription for the use of Pandora (once the free trial period is over) I thought access through the networks used by slingbox could be organized for paying customers. I don't know who's been banking the subscription money so far, but surely

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread snarlydwarf
iceled;256097 Wrote: Seeing as though slingbox users are prepared to pay a subscription for the use of Pandora (once the free trial period is over) I thought access through the networks used by slingbox could be organized for paying customers. I don't know who's been banking the subscription

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread iceled
Thanks for your explanation snarlydwarf. I can never get a handle on the value of advertising. I imagine the typical punter to be like myself - not once have I been motivated to buy a Big-Mac while listening to Pandora. I kind of have a figure in my head of pennies per seat per day flowing back

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-08 Thread mmbeamer
Regarding Pandora we have the same problems in Germany . Now the only available and good (just my opinion!) service is Napster. Are there any plans to support Napster in the near future? Thanks -- mmbeamer mmbeamer's

Re: [slim] GUTTED: The end of Pandora in the UK!

2008-01-07 Thread gorman
And then they complain about piracy (not Pandora, the music industry...). -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: