Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread erland
nervoteso wrote: Logitech did not invent SB, Slimdevices did it, didn't it? may be possible some company like slimdevices buy squeezeboxes line or mysqueezebox? maybe not, if logitech keep on producing something like UE smart radiobut i keep on dreaming! If there is a need and a

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread nervoteso
erland wrote: If there is a need and a market, someone will eventually fill the hole. However, I doubt it will happen through someone buying anything from Logitech, especially since I don't think Logitech have anything of value which they can or are willing to sell. Most of the source

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread erland
nervoteso wrote: just a curiosity: where are people from slimdevices now? are they in logitech o somewhere? Some are within Logitech in other departments, some are within Logitech and still working with Squeezebox or UE Smart Radio and some have moved on and works for other companies. Even

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread maggior
erland wrote: If there is a need and a market, someone will eventually fill the hole. Exactly! Very well put! It is for this reason I've chosen not to get too upset about the situation. And I agree that there isn't anything Logitech would be willing to sell at this point since UER

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread pippin
They didn't even want to sell when they had decided to shut down the product line a few years ago. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread bpa
pippin wrote: They didn't even want to sell when they had decided to shut down the product line a few years ago. I suspect the couldn't sell the product line because this would crystallise a big loss (e.g. sale price vs purchase price of Slimdevice) and would have had to be shown on accounts

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread epoch1970
bpa wrote: I suspect the couldn't sell the product line because this would crystallise a big loss (e.g. sale price vs purchase price of Slimdevice) and would have had to be shown on accounts and probably depress share price (e.g. destruction of shareholder value). Keeping the prodct line

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread AndrewFG
epoch1970 wrote: Could the continuation as UER be a simple matter of sustaining the fair value of the asset ? I'm not exactly clear as to when fair valuation applies. When one acquires a company they usually pay more than book value, this being the value of tangible assets like cash,

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread signor_rossi
AndrewFG wrote: When one acquires a company they usually pay more than book value, this being the value of tangible assets like cash, inventory, buildings. The premium that one pays over book value is called goodwill, this is the buyer's estimation of what they percieve to be the extra value

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread Mnyb
AndrewFG wrote: When one acquires a company they usually pay more than book value, this being the value of tangible assets like cash, inventory, buildings. The premium that one pays over book value is called goodwill, this is the buyer's estimation of what they percieve to be the extra value

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread AndrewFG
signor_rossi wrote: But can Logitech make a profit with the UER alone? If they don't they would lose less if they sell what they can sell? Not necessarily. It depends on the math. Let's take the hypothesis that Slim Devices had (say) a book value of $100, and Logitech paid (say) $250 for it.

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread banned for life
In the grand scope of Logitech, Slimdevices was a very, very small worm. Others may be able to erupt on why they even bought the company. The only logical reason was a stimulation by the Slim folks that would have resulted in cash. Innovation at that point was also very cheap for Logitech.

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread toby10
You people are whacked if you think Logitech is going to sell SqueezeBox (rights, intellectual property, etc..) to anyone. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread pippin
bpa wrote: I suspect the couldn't sell the product line because this would crystallise a big loss (e.g. sale price vs purchase price of Slimdevice) and would have had to be shown on accounts and probably depress share price (e.g. destruction of shareholder value). Keeping the prodct line

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread sander
2 details I've been curious about and I don't know if they've come out are: How much did Logitech pay for Slim Devices? Could Slim Devices have manufactured anything beyond the SB3 and Transporter? Did they really need Logitech's money to make the other form factors?

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread GeeJay
sander wrote: 2 details I've been curious about and I don't know if they've come out are: How much did Logitech pay for Slim Devices? I actually found a report from '06 that says they paid $20 million. I'd provide a link but I'm too lazy to go search for it again.

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread erland
sander wrote: How much did Logitech pay for Slim Devices? The press release is here: http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/172/2763 Which says: $20 million in cash plus a possible performance-based payment, tied to reaching certain future revenue targets. sander wrote: Could Slim Devices have

Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread Mnyb
+1 squeezeboxes appeared in at least 2 large nationwide retail store chains here in Sweden , I guess slimdevices would never had the organisation for that , my radio is for example bought in a store 1,5 km from my home .