[slim] Announce track
Hello, I was wondering if there's a way to announce tracks via the speaker before actually playing the track. This would be handy for blind people or children or devices where the display is too far away or even broken. So is there a plugin for that? Can you recommend a software that easily creates mp3s with the title name and integrate them into a playlist? Thank you, Uli42 uli42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62975 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problem connecting one Touch to the LMS/Vortexbox
well.. a factory reset of the Touch still didn't work. To try and further diagnose this, I wonder, is there something intrinsically different from the Touch devices that would make them more susceptible to network issues, as opposed to other Squeezedevices? If all's going well, I have 8 devices connected. 4 x Touch and 4 'others' - 2 Booms and 2 SB3/Classics. Throughout my router reboots etc of the last few days, the Booms and Classics have come through undisturbed. The Booms and one Classic are wi-fi connected; the other Classic is ethernet over powerline. I now have two Touches which have managed to reconnect and find LMS; I still have two Touches which just don't seem to be able to 'break through' and find the Network - but all four Touches dropped off at the same time. Wouldn't that point to something? Ta D SB user since 2000... 3 x Touch; 2 x Boom ; 3 x Classic; 1 x Controller Spares - 1xClassic; 2xSB1 Controlled by iPad using 'Squeezepad' Vortexbox appliance running LMS version 7.8 donmacn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101601 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices
oldfolkie wrote: You've been using foobar2000. Isn't that Windows only? Indeed it is, but it run extremely reliably under 'wine', the WIndows emulator, on linux. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi running Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. Wired Touch + EDO, coax to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS via Chromium. Meridian Explorer USB DAC to listen via Squeezelite on Vortexbox other PCs as required. Spare Touch in loft. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problem connecting one Touch to the LMS/Vortexbox
I've prepared a schematic of my network to try and help clarify things further. Anything with a solid line is cabled, anything with a dashed line is wireless. While I've shown all four Touch's as connected, only two are at the moment. One of those two (top right) has two dashed lines. When it's connected, I think it goes straight to the router, but it might be going via the Powerline Ethernet access point. Now that I've figured out how to post this, I might try and create one showing my projected new set up. Obviously what this doesnt' show is IP addresses etc, but I can try and create a table showing those too. Just in case anyone has the patience left..?! 15972 +---+ |Filename: donald network diag.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15972| +---+ SB user since 2000... 3 x Touch; 2 x Boom ; 3 x Classic; 1 x Controller Spares - 1xClassic; 2xSB1 Controlled by iPad using 'Squeezepad' Vortexbox appliance running LMS version 7.8 donmacn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101601 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need recommendations for music subscriber service
ButC wrote: Any good free services like that? Or any other way to get around the blocking? Deezer has a free access option called 'Discovery' which is available as an app on mysqueezebox.com. You can play so called 'Smart Radios' which plays one song of your favorite artist followed by artists, which are similar. After approx. 10 songs the next song of the selected/favorite artist is played again an so on. Very good music quality and a huge variety of artists. The 'Premium+' option has probably far more features, but nobody is obviously able to answer my questions concerning the deezer app and 'Premium+' 'here' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98126-Deezer-App). MarkusE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices
bpa wrote: I cannot get my head around what compromise you might find acceptable. Can you write out your ideal use case. This would be an ideal case - what would your dream system look and feel like (not a static component description) if somebody created a solution. For example, can you write the steps you would do to select and play a track on your controller ? What steps you would need to do on your amp/player to know it is s connected to the LMS UPNP entity ? What steps are needed to get the amp/player play music from LMS (and not the controller but on the amp/player interface) ? Does the amp /player have to display anythin ? A use case. Some of this is expressed in terms of the solution, for instance I have no better way to describe an ideal controller than to say 'just like LMS'. I don't want to throw away amplifiers or servers that I have that do an excellent job as it is. Some of the components are, therefore, part of my ideal system. I want: 1) To use a browser on a wireless laptop or tablet to play music in my lounge, and sometimes in one other room. 2) The user interface needs to be as flexible as LMS is now, which means I can customise menus to play things like 'Works By Composer' and select a performance by a particular Artist, or 'Random Works', or 'Random Movements', or 'Albums by Conductor', and so on I have no need for anything better than that which LMS provides, so I want to keep it as it is. 3) This user interface includes the ability to select a 'player' which in this case would be the streaming software (i.e. just like squeezelite, especially in its 'local player' guise). 4) The music is in flacs, up to 24/192 quality, on a linux server. 5) My amplifiers are connected to my wired home network. 6) I want to select the input to the amplifier to be the music source and stream (i.e. the streamer on the server), no more than that, and nothing need be displayed on it for each track. It's just an input, like a tuner, LP player (yes, I still have more than one!) or whatever. 7) I have no need for additional hardware boxes, indeed I have a positive aversion to them. There is no need for them. They perform no useful function that I can detect. 8) I have no need for multi-room sync. 9) The KISS principle applies (Keep It Simple, Stupid). I just want to play music as simply and reliably as possible. Thus removing the Touch from my current set-up should make the solution better. So, since both amplifiers already support streamed music over the wired network using UpnP, I want to use something like squeezelite to stream directly to them, rather than to an audio device on my server. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi running Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. Wired Touch + EDO, coax to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS via Chromium. Meridian Explorer USB DAC to listen via Squeezelite on Vortexbox other PCs as required. Spare Touch in loft. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS Extractor Is Now Available
amey01 wrote: Frikin' awesome. Works perfectly. Thank you! You're welcome! I'm glad to hear it's of some use to other people. I hope anyone who has a cool query will share it, maybe by posting it in this thread, so others can make use of it. Everybody has their own ideas/needs/approaches to cataloging their library, and hearing what other people are doing can sometimes spark us into huh, I never thought of that! I could do that too! So if you come up with improvements to existing queries, or something new, pass it around. Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices
PasTim wrote: I want to use something like squeezelite to stream directly to them, rather than to an audio device on my server. As another point for comparison, how would your ideal solution differ (aside from using mp3) from making your amplifier play the current LMS stream.mp3 stream. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices
bpa wrote: As another point for comparison, how would your ideal solution differ (aside from using mp3) from making your amplifier play the current LMS stream.mp3 stream. I don't know, because I am unsure as to which stream you refer (I know very little indeed about what goes on under the lid), unless you are referring to the existing UPnP plugin. If the latter, it can't be controlled in the same manner, or nearly as flexibly, as the normal LMS audio. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi running Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. Wired Touch + EDO, coax to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS via Chromium. Meridian Explorer USB DAC to listen via Squeezelite on Vortexbox other PCs as required. Spare Touch in loft. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices
PasTim wrote: I don't know, because I am unsure as to which stream you refer (I know very little indeed about what goes on under the lid), unless you are referring to the existing UPnP plugin. If the latter, it can't be controlled in the same manner, or nearly as flexibly, as the normal LMS audio. IIRC The stream.mp3 feature is an LMS feature that has been around since at least 6.0 You need to have lame installed as all audio is converted into MP3. LMS has a player which appears as http MP3 stream and has same URL as LMS webUI but extension stream.mp3 (e.g. http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3). Start a real player (e.g. tell your amp that it is a radio station and use the LMS host IP address instead of localhost) playing this stream and it will play silence and then a new player will appear in the drop down menu (you may need to refresh). Then select whatever audio you want and play it on this new player - audio will be converted and then routed to the http stream which should be played on your amp/whatever. The problem is usually the real audio amp has a buffer and it buffers up the stream and so there is a delay between choice and hearing the audio. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS Extractor Is Now Available
I thought it might be useful to know the table structures. Here's some screen shots from SQLite Expert: 15973 15974 15975 15976 15977 More in next post (5 image/post limit) +---+ |Filename: contributors.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15977| +---+ Win7Pro(x64)[3.3Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD system, 15TB storage], LMS 7.7.3 - Logitech Squeezebox Classic V.3 - Cambridge Audio DacMagic - NAD C160 - 2 x NAD C272 - Quad 22L2 get.amped's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS Extractor Is Now Available
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Re: [slim] LMS Extractor Is Now Available
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Re: [slim] LMS Extractor Is Now Available
15988 15989 15990 15991 That's all folks! Of course, there are other database files. Not sure how much more value there is in querying them. +---+ |Filename: years.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15991| +---+ Win7Pro(x64)[3.3Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD system, 15TB storage], LMS 7.7.3 - Logitech Squeezebox Classic V.3 - Cambridge Audio DacMagic - NAD C160 - 2 x NAD C272 - Quad 22L2 get.amped's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices
bpa wrote: IIRC The stream.mp3 feature is an LMS feature that has been around since at least 6.0 You need to have lame installed as all audio is converted into MP3. LMS has a player which appears as http MP3 stream and has same URL as LMS webUI but extension stream.mp3 (e.g. http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3). Start a real player (e.g. tell your amp that it is a radio station and use the LMS host IP address instead of localhost) playing this stream and it will play silence and then a new player will appear in the drop down menu (you may need to refresh). Then select whatever audio you want and play it on this new player - audio will be converted and then routed to the http stream which should be played on your amp/whatever. The problem is usually the real audio amp has a buffer and it buffers up the stream and so there is a delay between choice and hearing the audio. Thanks! I learn something every day. I wonder whether is documented anywhere. I don't recall ever reading anything about it. Three problems : 1) I'd want it in better quality, like wav or pcm based on the quality of my flacs (I am not sure that flac can be streamed, can it?) 2) Some devices, including both of mine, don't support direct entry of a station. It may be possible to add it to 'vtuner' or whatever the system supports - I shall investigate. 3) If I can get (2) to work, it may mean that I need to be connected to the Internet at all times. In the modern world many take this for granted, but I have lost outside connections on a couple of occasions for several days thanks to telco problems, so I wouldn't want to rely on that. However, it may be that by adding such a local station to my 'favourites' I could avoid this problem, but I'll have to try it and see. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi running Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. Wired Touch + EDO, coax to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS via Chromium. Meridian Explorer USB DAC to listen via Squeezelite on Vortexbox other PCs as required. Spare Touch in loft. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS Extractor Is Now Available
Does this do anything that Mp3tag's Export configurations can't do? One thing about working directly with LMS' data is that you have to work around the shortcomings of the LMS database and LMS quirky scanning logic. If you've witnessed the struggles they've had over the years doing (what you would think are) simple things in LMS, then you should realize that working with this data can be a headache. There are a few export configurations included with Mp3tag, but additional ones are easily added. The Mp3tag Export Configuration Archive is a good place to start if you want to customize something for yourself. http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=1563 JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Deezer app - Love tracks to LastFM account ?
Hi Deezer music scrobbles ok, but no option to Love track in context menu. Is this a known limitation ? Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S2 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101638 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices
PasTim wrote: Thanks! I learn something every day. I wonder whether is documented anywhere. I don't recall ever reading anything about it. See WebGUI - remote streaming . The help has been there for years. Three problems : 1) I'd want it in better quality, like wav or pcm based on the quality of my flacs (I am not sure that flac can be streamed, can it?) 2) Some devices, including both of mine, don't support direct entry of a station. It may be possible to add it to 'vtuner' or whatever the system supports - I shall investigate. 3) If I can get (2) to work, it may mean that I need to be connected to the Internet at all times. In the modern world many take this for granted, but I have lost outside connections on a couple of occasions for several days thanks to telco problems, so I wouldn't want to rely on that. However, it may be that by adding such a local station to my 'favourites' I could avoid this problem, but I'll have to try it and see. I know there would be problems - that's why I said a Point for comparison. and already acknowledge the audio part. The issue about defining local streams is important as it is a limitation of your equipment. Probably can be overcome by publishing the stream under upnp. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS Extractor Is Now Available
JJZolx wrote: Does this do anything that Mp3tag's Export configurations can't do? One thing about working directly with LMS' data is that you have to work around the shortcomings of the LMS database and LMS quirky scanning logic. If you've witnessed the struggles they've had over the years doing (what you would think are) simple things in LMS, then you should realize that working with this data can be a headache. There are a few export configurations included with Mp3tag, but additional ones are easily added. The Mp3tag Export Configuration Archive is a good place to start if you want to customize something for yourself. http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=1563 I wonder if/when mp3tag chokes on the number of entries? I'm not sure it how it will handle 300K+ tracks... Win7Pro(x64)[3.3Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD system, 15TB storage], LMS 7.7.3 - Logitech Squeezebox Classic V.3 - Cambridge Audio DacMagic - NAD C160 - 2 x NAD C272 - Quad 22L2 get.amped's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Deezer App
There is too much for me to type on my phone, what is it you are wondering about? Personally I find the Deezer implementation pretty good. Best to sign up for a month and try it out. johnas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98126 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Deezer app - Love tracks to LastFM account ?
The menu item indeed seems to be missing. Looks like an omission to me since it actually works. I tried the hard-coded love button in iPeng 7 and it does send love to last.fm... Maybe Deezer objected to it because the have their own favorites feature. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101638 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Deezer app - Love tracks to LastFM account ?
I can love track via LastFM android app - but bit of a clumsy workaround. Touch x 2, Booms x 2, SqueezeCommander on Galaxy S2 (Duet Receiver + Controllers x 2 - semi-retired) swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101638 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Deezer app - Love tracks to LastFM account ?
Convince the author or OrangeSqueeze to include a love button as well :) --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101638 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS Extractor Is Now Available
get.amped wrote: I wonder if/when mp3tag chokes on the number of entries? I'm not sure it how it will handle 300K+ tracks... Dont know but I've had 225,000 tracks selected in mp3tag... *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 Squeezelite *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S iPad2 (iPeng7 Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Streaming - Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices
bpa wrote: See WebGUI - remote streaming . The help has been there for years. I know there would be problems - that's why I said a Point for comparison. and already acknowledge the audio part. The issue about defining local streams is important as it is a limitation of your equipment. Probably can be overcome by publishing the stream under upnp. Just shows I didn't read the instructions properly:) Well, the streaming does work. I had to go to vtuner websites to create the stream for each of my players, and then I set up the streams as favourites on them. If I disconnect the internet they are a bit slow to connect when they start up, but after that they can indeed play my local stream.mp3 without needing an internet connection. vtuner appears to insist that the stream must be mp3s or 'Windows Media'. Whether (or how) that is enforced is a puzzle that I would want to look into if the 'remote streaming' facility were to be extended to cover other codecs (which I'd want if I was to pursue this method). Apart from the codec, the other issue is one you mentioned about buffering. There does indeed seem to be quite a lag between control and the music being played. Whether that could be improved I don't know. In the mean time I have also been experimenting with rygel. I managed to get squeezelite to talk to a pulseaudio 'upnp' audio device, in turn read by rygel and streamed by plugin 'GstLaunch' to one of my players. For some reason I can't get the other to work yet, but I have hopes. I'm struggling a bit with defining the codec I want to use, but have made some progress using existing software. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi running Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. Wired Touch + EDO, coax to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS via Chromium. Meridian Explorer USB DAC to listen via Squeezelite on Vortexbox other PCs as required. Spare Touch in loft. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] JRiver Id: New Media Player?
I've seen negative references to dlna in these forums, but am not technical enough to really understand the issue. Is it that there is some fatal flaw with dlna to make it impossible to have the functionality of LMS/SB, or is it just faulty execution? I seem to recall reading somewhere that syncing devices has been an issue, which would be a showstopper for me if a manufacturer can't figure out how to do it as well as my SBs. Not enough has been written yet about the Id to know if they even claim to have addressed that problem. 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101632 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] JRiver Id: New Media Player?
GeeJay wrote: I've seen negative references to dlna in these forums, but am not technical enough to really understand the issue. Is it that there is some fatal flaw with dlna to make it impossible to have the functionality of LMS/SB, or is it just faulty execution? I seem to recall reading somewhere that syncing devices has been a problem, which would be a showstopper for me if a manufacturer can't figure out how to do it as well as my SBs. Not enough has been written yet about the Id to know if they even claim to have addressed that problem. I don't understand all the details either , a bit of both execution and the dlna/upnp itself these players rarely sync and probaly not with another dlna/upnp player of another brand . Some manufacturers have done thier own extension to allow sync ( Linn ). Mostly they build players going for the lowest common denominator making it to simple , probably some cheap of the shelf implementation . Hifi manufactures for example never seem to understand the amount of work and money you have to put in to the software ? Actually as JRiver is a software company ? Potentially they could do better . It supposed to be a standard ie you can have several different servers players and controllers , but you rarely see anything but basic functions and a lot of proprietary extensions if they are not very basic . And then there is the controllers ? I don't get that at all in upnp world . I have installed several upnp players on my iPad they are all very silly and primitive when you are used to iPeng or SqueezePad . There was an entertaining tread some years ago in the dev section where this was vented . The technical details eludes me . But it goes something like that dlna/upnp potentially can do all stuff we want but no ones doing doing it because it's very hard to do . You rather do you own code for sync and end up with an proprietary solution . There is nothing wrong with your own specialised software either . Both squeezeboxes and Sonos use this aproach to get things done their way . Actually I think slim proto and our server in its many names actually predates upnp/dlna with a couple of years :) Hmm a pity that never though off pitching this as a standard back then ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101632 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problem connecting one Touch to the LMS/Vortexbox
Some routers have a setting to limit the amount of devices conected , check it's web-UI . A Touch can loose its static settings if you poke around in the network settings part of the UI , can't remember what exact menu that provokes that behaviour . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101601 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
