Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
slartibartfast wrote: > I don't have a clue what any of that means. THAT was funny...I spewed beer. Jim All wireless (TM-AC1900) except NAS (ReadyNAS PRO - OS 6.9.1 - 3GB RAM - 3 X 4TB drives - XRAID2 - LMS 7.9.1 ) Squeezebox Boom - Anywhere with an AC outlet Squeezebox Touch > Bose Radio - Kitchen Squeezebox Touch > Hafler 100 preamp > Hafler DH-220 amp > Sima SSW-L6 EX Speaker selector= Polk Audio Monitor 70 Series II - Living Room, Definitive Tech ProMonitor 100 - Dining Room, Infinity US-1 - Porch Ipeng on an iPad controls everything! usbethjim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
usbethjim wrote: > THAT was funny...I spewed beer. > > Jim You should be severely punished: spew water, coffe, tea, soup, whatever, but NOT beer ... :p Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + Squeezepad (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Aune X7S + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Qobuz streaming service: Qobuz Sublime +
ronaldwanders wrote: > Qobuz Sublime Plus works perfect on LMS (Logitech Media Server Version: > 7.9.1 - 1511768958 @ Mon Nov 27 07:56:56 CUT 2017) with the Qobuz > plugin. > I have tested 44.1/24 (1522kbps), 48/24 (1635kbps), 88.2/24 (2549kbps) > and 96/24bit (2713kbps). > Haven't found anything higher yet. > > Played the files with Squeezelite on Cubox (Linux), Mac (OSX) and a > Transporter. > > One happy camper here...! Who needs Roon...? :-) Thanks for the heads up and reply. They have recently promoted the Squeezebox solution via the "unofficial" LMS Qobuz plugin :-) http://www.qobuz.com/BE-fr/info/Hi-Fi/Bancs-d-essai/Tutoriel-Logitech-Media-Server179701 BTW, quick question as you are using qobuz: today I have experienced some buffering from Qobuz. Are you also experiencing this? Touch + Cambridge Audio 651R & DAC Magic + Q Acoustics Concept 40 --- Touch + Onkyo TX-SR309 + Morel Applause MKII --- SB2, SB3, and Duet --- 2 Boom --- 7 Radios --- Ipeng --- LMS 7.9.0 - 1470912157 / Max2Play IQAudio on RaspberryPi3 didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107243 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
In the UK Spotify has replaced John Peel? No I dont think so either. PI3 PCP/LMS STORAGE QNAP TS419P (NFS) *Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
d6jg wrote: > In the UK Spotify has replaced John Peel? No I dont think so either. You could always create a public John Peel Playlist ... Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
castalla wrote: > You could always create a public John Peel Playlist ... Mr Peel had an advantage over most in that aspiring artists would send him their albums etc FOC. He was our arbiter of good taste and a necessary filter of the mundane. Spotify doesnt fulfil this role. I do listen to Spotify but only via LastMix / DSTM. I am listening now. I listened to an album (local files) and as its bedtime I am just letting Spotify play me something similar before I switch off for the night. PI3 PCP/LMS STORAGE QNAP TS419P (NFS) *Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
castalla wrote: > You could always create a public John Peel Playlist ... When I worked at BBC Bush House (1968-71) we had clean feeds of Radio 1, 2, 3 & 4, plus audio channels for BBC 1 and BBC 2 TV. Enterprising staff in the Central Tape Room would record Top of the Pops, Pick of the Pops, Top Gear, and other music shows every week at 15ips on 10.5" reels and stash them on a special shelf. Then on the night shift you could find a few tape ends, splice them together into a full reel, make a high-speed copy of anything you were interested in, and take it home. As long as it didn't get out of hand, management turned a blind eye - things were a lot more casual at the BBC then. So around June 1970 I made copies of a couple of John Peel shows and spliced up a compilation of tracks I liked, complete with his intros. I still have the tape, about 80 minutes, and digitized it some years ago. For anyone interested, the 130MB MP3 file can be downloaded from my server: http://ftldesign.com/images/Top-Gear-Compilation-1970-BB.mp3 Bill ftlight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
Um, dude, you're doing it wrong. FWIW, I bought my first album when I was 8...in a gadda da vida SlimChances wrote: > https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-muzak-pelly > > I could never understand the allure of services of Spotify which seem to > spoon feed listeners rather than encouraging them to make the effort to > research and find music on their own; through friends, concerts, > searching music stores etc. But I guess I am out of touch with modern > ways > > > " What good will criticism be when all of music has coalesced into > algorithmically preordained Muzak?" bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
bb1959 wrote: > Um, dude, you're doing it wrong. > > FWIW, I bought my first album when I was 8...in a gadda da vida Perhaps but to me while there is a wealth of music to choose from quality has steadily gone downhill for over 20 years Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1504317335 @ Mon Sep 4 07:13:56 UTC 2017 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
SlimChances wrote: > Perhaps but to me while there is a wealth of music to choose from > quality has steadily gone downhill for over 20 years Can't argue with that ... Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker SB Player - Fire TV castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
I used to use Spotify as a "try before you buy" kind of service but now I feel foolish for buying an album when for all intents and purposes I have all the access to it I need with the Spotify subscription. I had to really take a hard look at how I listen to music and also accept that I cannot tell the difference between my lossless ripped FLAC collection vs. the 320 kbps OGG files that Spotify serves up on my stereo systems. If Spotify would allow me to upload all of the live concerts I enjoy listening to and could play them back gaplessly then I would only use that service as it would meet all of my needs. I do miss the old feelings of serendipity that came with digging through the used CD bin at my favorite record store and finding some music I wasn't expecting or being turned on to a new band by my favorite dj or buddy that I knew also had good taste in music. Something about that process was rewarding in a way that a Spotify recommendation just cannot come close to matching. I also find I don't give a new album a real chance to grow on me since I have made no financial commitment beyond my monthly subscription. usc95's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59694 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
I think Spotify/tidal/iTunes are the future. Seems to me that buying physical media or even bothering to purchase digital media will be a side show, a curiosity for the old and nostalgic in ten years time. The industry wants subscription, and now it has a taste for it physical media in particular is under threat. I will of course be one of the old and nostalgic, but there you go. I do see it becoming the norm. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
Peter Galbavy wrote: > Curated music services are just the status quo (no pun intended) > returning to where the music industry was 30 years ago - and it is an > industry with huge vested financial interests. > > I was working at the periphery of groups that were very much the > utopians of the disintermediation fashion in the 90s, the removal of > barriers between content producers (musicians) and the consumers. The > music industry actively conspired to ensure this brave new world headed > for oblivion. They actively seeded and covertly encouraged illegal > distribution as a strawman to have something to hold up and say it's a > bad thing. > > The result is Spotify, iTunes et al. Enjoy.I don't have a clue what any of > that means. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
Curated music services are just the status quo (no pun intended) returning to where the music industry was 30 years ago - and it is an industry with huge vested financial interests. I was working at the periphery of groups that were very much the utopians of the disintermediation fashion in the 90s, the removal of barriers between content producers (musicians) and the consumers. The music industry actively conspired to ensure this brave new world headed for oblivion. They actively seeded and cvertly encouraged illegal distribution as a strawman to have something to hold up and say it's a bad thing. The result is Spotify, iTunes et al. Enjoy. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out
Peter Galbavy wrote: > Curated music services are just the status quo (no pun intended) > returning to where the music industry was 30 years ago - and it is an > industry with huge vested financial interests. > > I was working at the periphery of groups that were very much the > utopians of the disintermediation fashion in the 90s, the removal of > barriers between content producers (musicians) and the consumers. The > music industry actively conspired to ensure this brave new world headed > for oblivion. They actively seeded and covertly encouraged illegal > distribution as a strawman to have something to hold up and say it's a > bad thing. > > The result is Spotify, iTunes et al. Enjoy. On the other hand, at least for Belgian bands, I see bands which have no record deal, who've financed, recorded and released their album themselves, appearing on iTunes, Amazon, Tidal and Spotify. Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Car: BananaPi LMS + Squeezeplayer on Android phone - Controller TBD ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss