Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread usbethjim

slartibartfast wrote: 
> I don't have a clue what any of that means.

THAT was funny...I spewed beer.

Jim



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread bakker_be

usbethjim wrote: 
> THAT was funny...I spewed beer.
> 
> Jim

You should be severely punished: spew water, coffe, tea, soup, whatever,
but NOT beer ... :p



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Re: [slim] New Qobuz streaming service: Qobuz Sublime +

2017-12-12 Thread didjean

ronaldwanders wrote: 
> Qobuz Sublime Plus works perfect on LMS (Logitech Media Server Version:
> 7.9.1 - 1511768958 @ Mon Nov 27 07:56:56 CUT 2017) with the Qobuz
> plugin.
> I have tested 44.1/24 (1522kbps), 48/24 (1635kbps), 88.2/24 (2549kbps)
> and 96/24bit (2713kbps).
> Haven't found anything higher yet.
> 
> Played the files with Squeezelite on Cubox (Linux), Mac (OSX) and a
> Transporter.
> 
> One happy camper here...! Who needs Roon...? :-)

Thanks for the heads up and reply. 

They have recently promoted the Squeezebox solution via the "unofficial"
LMS Qobuz plugin :-)
http://www.qobuz.com/BE-fr/info/Hi-Fi/Bancs-d-essai/Tutoriel-Logitech-Media-Server179701

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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread d6jg

In the UK Spotify has replaced John Peel? No I don’t think so either.



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread castalla

d6jg wrote: 
> In the UK Spotify has replaced John Peel? No I don’t think so either.

You could always create a public John Peel Playlist ...



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread d6jg

castalla wrote: 
> You could always create a public John Peel Playlist ...

Mr Peel had an advantage over most in that aspiring artists would send
him their albums etc FOC. He was our arbiter of good taste and a
necessary filter of the mundane. Spotify doesn’t fulfil this role.

I do listen to Spotify but only via LastMix / DSTM. I am listening now.
I listened to an album (local files) and as it’s bedtime I am just
letting Spotify play me something similar before I switch off for the
night.



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread ftlight

castalla wrote: 
> You could always create a public John Peel Playlist ...
When I worked at BBC Bush House (1968-71) we had clean feeds of Radio 1,
2, 3 & 4, plus audio channels for BBC 1 and BBC 2 TV.  Enterprising
staff in the Central Tape Room would record Top of the Pops, Pick of the
Pops, Top Gear, and other music shows every week at 15ips on 10.5" reels
and stash them on a special shelf. Then on the night shift you could
find a few tape ends, splice them together into a full reel, make a
high-speed copy of anything you were interested in, and take it home. As
long as it didn't get out of hand, management turned a blind eye -
things were a lot more casual at the BBC then.

So around June 1970 I made copies of a couple of John Peel shows and
spliced up a compilation of tracks I liked, complete with his intros. I
still have the tape, about 80 minutes, and digitized it some years ago. 
For anyone interested, the 130MB MP3 file can be downloaded from my
server:
http://ftldesign.com/images/Top-Gear-Compilation-1970-BB.mp3

Bill



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread bb1959

Um, dude, you're doing it wrong.

FWIW, I bought my first album when I was 8...in a gadda da vida




SlimChances wrote: 
> https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-muzak-pelly
> 
> I could never understand the allure of services of Spotify which seem to
> spoon feed listeners rather than encouraging them to make the effort to
> research and find music on their own; through friends, concerts,
> searching music stores etc. But I guess I am out of touch with modern
> ways
> 
> 
> " What good will criticism be when all of music has coalesced into
> algorithmically preordained Muzak?"



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread SlimChances

bb1959 wrote: 
> Um, dude, you're doing it wrong.
> 
> FWIW, I bought my first album when I was 8...in a gadda da vida

Perhaps but to me while there is a wealth of music to choose from
quality has steadily gone downhill for over 20 years



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread castalla

SlimChances wrote: 
> Perhaps but to me while there is a wealth of music to choose from
> quality has steadily gone downhill for over 20 years

Can't argue with that ...



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread usc95

I used to use Spotify as a "try before you buy" kind of service but now
I feel foolish for buying an album when for all intents and purposes I
have all the access to it I need with the Spotify subscription.  I had
to really take a hard look at how I listen to music and also accept that
I cannot tell the difference between my lossless ripped FLAC collection
vs. the 320 kbps OGG files that Spotify serves up on my stereo systems. 
If Spotify would allow me to upload all of the live concerts I enjoy
listening to and could play them back gaplessly then I would only use
that service as it would meet all of my needs.  I do miss the old
feelings of serendipity that came with digging through the used CD bin
at my favorite record store and finding some music I wasn't expecting or
being turned on to a new band by my favorite dj or buddy that I knew
also had good taste in music.  Something about that process was
rewarding in a way that a Spotify recommendation just cannot come close
to matching.  I also find I don't give a new album a real chance to grow
on me since I have made no financial commitment beyond my monthly
subscription.



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread drmatt

I think Spotify/tidal/iTunes are the future. Seems to me that buying
physical media or even bothering to purchase digital  media will be a
side show, a curiosity for the old and nostalgic in ten years time. The
industry wants subscription, and now it has a taste for it physical
media in particular is under threat.

I will of course be one of the old and nostalgic, but there you go. I do
see it becoming the norm.


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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread slartibartfast

Peter Galbavy wrote: 
> Curated music services are just the status quo (no pun intended)
> returning to where the music industry was 30 years ago - and it is an
> industry with huge vested financial interests.
> 
> I was working at the periphery of groups that were very much the
> utopians of the disintermediation fashion in the 90s, the removal of
> barriers between content producers (musicians) and the consumers. The
> music industry actively conspired to ensure this brave new world headed
> for oblivion. They actively seeded and covertly encouraged illegal
> distribution as a strawman to have something to hold up and say it's a
> bad thing.
> 
> The result is Spotify, iTunes et al. Enjoy.I don't have a clue what any of 
> that means.

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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread Peter Galbavy

Curated music services are just the status quo (no pun intended)
returning to where the music industry was 30 years ago - and it is an
industry with huge vested financial interests.

I was working at the periphery of groups that were very much the
utopians of the disintermediation fashion in the 90s, the removal of
barriers between content producers (musicians) and the consumers. The
music industry actively conspired to ensure this brave new world headed
for oblivion. They actively seeded and cvertly encouraged illegal
distribution as a strawman to have something to hold up and say it's a
bad thing.

The result is Spotify, iTunes et al. Enjoy.



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Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread bakker_be

Peter Galbavy wrote: 
> Curated music services are just the status quo (no pun intended)
> returning to where the music industry was 30 years ago - and it is an
> industry with huge vested financial interests.
> 
> I was working at the periphery of groups that were very much the
> utopians of the disintermediation fashion in the 90s, the removal of
> barriers between content producers (musicians) and the consumers. The
> music industry actively conspired to ensure this brave new world headed
> for oblivion. They actively seeded and covertly encouraged illegal
> distribution as a strawman to have something to hold up and say it's a
> bad thing.
> 
> The result is Spotify, iTunes et al. Enjoy.

On the other hand, at least for Belgian bands, I see bands which have no
record deal, who've financed, recorded and released their album
themselves, appearing on iTunes, Amazon, Tidal and Spotify.



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