Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread firedog

Just read that the updated Fire is open to the Google Android App store,
so you can download and install apps from there, and not just from the
Amazon store.


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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released

2012-01-03 Thread jamesgangnc

erland;667564 Wrote: 
 Just out of interest, what's the main difference between Whitebear Media
 Server and the built-in UPnP server that's now bundled with LMS ?
 
 I can't easily compare it myself as I'm on Linux and I don't think
 Whitebear currently runs on Linux ?
 
 Does Whitebear also support video and photos when used with LMS 7.7 or
 is it focused at music ?

I installed whitebear because it makes my itunes playlists available on
my ps3 and the logitech media server does not. I can't explain why
logitech didn't include itunes playlists with it's upnp server though? 
Seems like an obvious gap.


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Re: [slim] Probably asked many times....convert wired SB3 to wireless?

2012-01-03 Thread lrossouw

Or you could just try a LAN power line adapter.  They send the data over
your lan but of course may cost more than the conversions suggested.


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Re: [slim] Transfer audio from one player to another

2012-01-03 Thread lrossouw

There is a setting somewhere which controls whether volume/power buttons
are also sync'd.


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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2012-01-03 Thread Asenath83

azinck3;676334 Wrote: 
 Haha, it appears at the ripe old age of 29 I'm now an old fart -- give
 me back my VFDs!! :).  I guess I'm outvoted so far.   
  
  Must be a quirk of our age indeed, I bought my Classic shortly after it
  disappeared from the Logitech webshop and still love the display as I
  find it easy to read. Thankfully, it hasn't faded or conked out yet as
  I know it has for some.
  I also found it a huge upgrade to the other web radio I had previously
  in terms of reliability, user interface and quality.
  
  I had a Duet for some time as well, it was a pain to set up initially
  due to old firmware still loaded onto it when it arrived, but then
  worked OK most of the time. I still didn't like it quite as much as the
  Classic, the controller has become somewhat obsolete for me since I have
  an Android phone and the receiver doesn't provide any advantages over
  the Classic, IMHO. That's why I sold it.
  
  If my Classic ever dies, I will try to get another one rather than a
  Touch. From what I have seen, the internal server of the Touch is too
  fussy to be even considered a feature and the touchscreen seems to
  scratch pretty easily.
  Also, if I had the choice between the Radio and the Boom, I would go
  for the Boom. I don't need a portable internet radio and prefer the
  looks of the Boom.
  
  That said, I agree that the biggest mistake was to try to turn a niche
  product for audiophiles into a mass market product, from lowering
  quality on the hardware side to all those unreliable half-finished
  plugins and gimmicks (headphone jack on the Controller, STILL-missing
  RSS settings on MySB, I am looking at you!).
  
  And now they have extended the server to be a general media server,
  which most of us already have built into the OS of our PC or NAS or
  gaming console or... I fail to see why I would need that. I bet most of
  us could have thought of more pressing matters to sovlve but of course,
  none of these involve selling Squeezeboxes to even more people who
  don't really understand the purpose of the product (partially due to
  marketing errors) in the first place :-/.


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Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released

2012-01-03 Thread AndrewFG

Hi )p(
AndrewFG;680111 Wrote: 
 I will work on this, and will hopefully get back with some solutions in
 a few days.I made a new test version of Whitebear that should solve the issue 
 of
missing album art when doing Play To from a third party control point
(like JRMC) to a Squeeze player. I sent you a Private Message where you
can download it. Please test it and let me know if it works.

AndrewFG;680111 Wrote: 
 This is a different issue, but I will look into it too...I could not 
 replicate this problem. The play position updates fine for
me, on the player, the SBS web UI, and on the control point (JRMC).

AndrewFG;680111 Wrote: 
 You need to contact J River to ask them to fix this.Did you report this to J 
 River yet? Any feedback yet?


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[slim] Squeeze Server upgrade failed, how to proceed?

2012-01-03 Thread Steinar Bang
I'm currently running server version: 7.6.1-r33110@Wed Aug 17 18:52:34 PDT 2011

Yesterday I was logged in on the XP machine running squeeze server.

A bubble on the squeeze server tooltray icon informed me that an
upgrade was available.

When I clicked on the bubble it started the upgrade, but immediately
failed with a dialog telling me to download the VS 2010 C++ runtime, and
an URL to do so with.

I clicked OK (or whatever), with the intention to look at it later.

Today I tried to make squeeze server update itself, and it informed me
that there are no available upgrades.

When I look at http://www.mysqueezebox.com/download I see that 7.7.1 is
available. 

How should I proceed?  Should I download 7.7.1 and install it?  Will it
be able to upgrade the existing installation and keep the settings?  Or
is there a different way I can persuade the existing installation to
upgrade itself?  Or is 7.7.1 something I should stay away from
altogether? (like eg. 7.6.0 was...?)

Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Squeeze Server upgrade failed, how to proceed?

2012-01-03 Thread garym

download  7.7.1 from here:
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/LogitechMediaServer_v7.7.1/
then simply install it (click on the .exe file)
All preferences will be retained.and 7.7.1 is very stable (NOT like
7.6.0)


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread bluegaspode

The article says, that the website is not blocked anymore, but
installing Apps from the market still does not seem to be possible


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread maggior

My wife has a Kindle Fire that was given to her as a gift.  I'm sad to
say that the device is a huge dissapointment.  If I had bought it
myself, I would have returned it.

It's a real shame.  I think Amazon is great - I'm a Prime member.  I
have had a Kindle Keyboard for a year now and still love it!  My wife
has one too.  But they blew it with the Fire.  If it worked well as a
reader, I'd say I understood that - but it's less functional as a
reader than the Kindle Keyboard!!

I'm tremendously annoyed by the fact that they don't allow you to get
apps from the Andriod Marketplace.  It means anything I got on my Xoom
from the andriod marketplace can't be put on my Fire.  Sure, there are
probably ways to do it involving rooting and stuff, but I'm not going
there.

I can't say how easy it would be to use the nook tablet, but certainly
the Fire makes it diffcult to use it as a squeezebox controller.

Holding the Fire in my hand I have to say I like the size and form
factor.  The screen looks great too.  That just makes it even more
frustrating!


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread kc5f

After researching it, we bought a Nook Tablet and love it.  The only
advantage I've read to rooting it is to access the Android Marketplace
directly, but even without rooting you can access the Amazon Market for
more apps and better prices, including free.  Beyond that, I've taken
apps I have on my Android phone and emailed the apk files to myself,
which I then open and load directly onto the Nook.  So I don't see the
lack of Android Marketplace as a killer.

(We haven't loaded SqueezeCommander onto the Nook, as it's my wife's
toy and I use the copy on my phone all the time.)


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread TimT

I rooted my Kindle Fire after Amazon pushed out the 6.2.1 OS update. I
then installed the Android Market app and have installed several apps
from the market. My understanding is that many apps can be sideloaded
onto the KF or installed via SlideMe. 

To my knowledge, the Kindle Fire has never been marketed as a tablet,
but instead as a device to consume media. 

I never thought I'd want one but after discovering that the Kindle Fire
can be both a reading device and an Android tablet, I am sold on it.


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread maggior

kc5f;681316 Wrote: 
 Beyond that, I've taken apps I have on my Android phone and emailed the
 apk files to myself, which I then open and load directly onto the
 (unrooted) Nook.  So I don't see the lack of Android Marketplace as a
 killer.
 

How did you get the APK files off your phone to email them?  I can't
find them on my Xoom and I'm assuming it's because, without being
rooted, I don't have access to the directory that contains the APK
files.


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread tonyptony

Apesbrain;681178 Wrote: 
 @tonyptony, thanks for all that.  More info is absolutely better as
 I'm just learning about both devices.  You don't need to root either
 device to install a SB controller app, right?  Also, both will install
 the SlideMe app?  Thanks.

I honestly don't remember if being rooted was required, or whether the
SB app could be installed simply by sideloading (which is a bit
different). With the initial release, the NT could load some things via
sideloading, and if you wanted to take the next step you could root and
then do things like access Market. I had my NT rooted so early in the
game I'm not sure. Be that as it may, if you were to buy a NT right now
it would probably have version 1.4.1 installed on it, which is the one
they just released. If that's the case you would have few choices - I
don't think you could get sideloading to work without rooting, and
you'd have to root to be able to get anything off Android Market. So
there you go.


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread tonyptony

kc5f;681316 Wrote: 
 Beyond that, I've taken apps I have on my Android phone and emailed the
 apk files to myself, which I then open and load directly onto the
 (unrooted) Nook.  So I don't see the lack of Android Marketplace as a
 killer.

kc5f, has your NT been upgraded to 1.4.1 yet? I wasn't sure if even the
local install technique would still be possible after that.


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread tonyptony

JJZolx;681184 Wrote: 
 Is it necessary to keep the Tablet's OS updated? Can't it just be left
 alone?

A fair question, JJ. That's what I'm doing right now. The only risk is
if any of the content unique to a given tablet (in the case of NT, the
BN store and Netflix HD) are of interest to the user, and if they make
changes to those features that cause them to stop working if you don't
update the OS. In my case neither of those features is of any import so
I can hold tight. But others' MMV. What will make the difference for me
is if the XDA team can't get 2ndinit or alternate OSes bootable on the
NT. In that case it really does become a dead end. Live with a rooted
1.4.0 or 1.4.1 on it and be left behind as newer and better tablet
environments become available, or sit and wait for someone to root the
next version when it comes out (and so on)? Neither is useful for any
reasonable long haul.

Part of the reason the original Nook did so well was that it was open
enough to keep the XDA community interested in doing stuff with (to)
it. If the limitations I've just described are not eliminated, IME the
developer community will never be as large as it was for the original.


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Re: [slim] SB3 connects to server, but doesn't play the stream

2012-01-03 Thread DaveAZ

usch;679814 Wrote: 
 That might in fact be a result of the power failure. Try a factory and
 Xilinx reset:
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Special_IR_Keys_on_Reboot_for_Factory_Reset_and_Last_FW

I tried Xilinx and Factory resets again.  Still no joy.  What's next?


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Re: [slim] What should be in the next version of SqueezePad ?

2012-01-03 Thread jgriffin_iii


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80575

Question: Whats your highest priority ?

- More images of your music collection
- Playlist management
- Syncing Players Variation A
- Syncing Players Variation B
- MySqueezebox.com Integration
- TrackStat Ratings
- Caching of Album + Artist Lists
- Album Art Only Screen
- Better Search
- Something else - Please do the poll with different options !


I would like the app to display in both landscape (as it does today) and
in portrait mode.


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread kc5f

maggior;681334 Wrote: 
 How did you get the APK files off your phone to email them?  I can't
 find them on my Xoom and I'm assuming it's because, without being
 rooted, I don't have access to the directory that contains the APK
 files.
I use the Android app ASTRO as my file manager on my phone.  One thing
it does is create backups of all or selected apps, and they back up as
APK files on the memory card.  I just email them from there.  Some
work, some don't (if they require phone access, for example), and some
work but think they're on the phone screen, so don't show up right on
the Nook.  In some cases, I installed an app on the phone just to back
it up and send it over to the Nook, and then deleted the phone app.


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread kc5f

tonyptony;681358 Wrote: 
 kc5f, has your NT been upgraded to 1.4.1 yet? I wasn't sure if even the
 local install technique would still be possible after that.
I haven't loaded anything new on the Nook in the past few weeks, so it
may be possible that I can't do it any more.  But I see the folks at
Liliputing have been busy with figuring out sideloading on the Nook
with 1.4.1 without rooting:
http://liliputing.com/2011/12/sideload-apps-on-a-nook-tablet-with-os-1-4-1-no-root-required.html
They're the ones with the instructions I used to load the Android side
on the Nook in the first place.


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Re: [slim] SB3 constantly dropping connection

2012-01-03 Thread ovonrein

It is absolutely weird.  I wasn't gonna post for a few days before I had
some tentative conclusion on my latest test.  I am working on the
assumption that the physical layer is - and always has been - ok and
that there is some protocol problem further up the network stack.  My
Win XP server is one busy beast and I thought hey, how about I try
assigning HIGH priority to  Squeezeserver.exe?  Did this and the SB
performed w/o any Can't connect all day ... until that evening it was
going absolutely mental with Can't connect.  Basically alternating
non-stop for 1hr between Can't connect and a good time.  During that
episode, I was able to stream a video via the network bridge.  In the
end, I pulled the power on the SB.  That was 24hrs ago and the SB has
not blinked since.

So ...  
Upping the priority on the server process seems to help prevent the
problem from arising.  (Why?)  Once the problem is there, only a
power-cycle on the SB will fix it.  (Why?)


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Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller

2012-01-03 Thread maggior

kc5f;681409 Wrote: 
 I use the Android app ASTRO as my file manager on my phone.  One thing
 it does is create backups of all or selected apps, and they back up as
 APK files on the memory card.  I just email them from there.  Some
 work, some don't (if they require phone access, for example), and some
 work but think they're on the phone screen, so don't show up right on
 the Nook.  In some cases, I installed an app on the phone just to back
 it up and send it over to the Nook, and then deleted the phone app.

OK, this looks promising.  I'll have to give this a go - thanks for the
tip!


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Re: [slim] Absolute Radio UK Plug In

2012-01-03 Thread xio

maybe I'm being a bit dim here, but what is the app for, given that you
can play the streams 'live' anyway? (podcasts, maybe I guess).


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Re: [slim] What should be in the next version of SqueezePad ?

2012-01-03 Thread bluegaspode


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: Whats your highest priority ?

- More images of your music collection
- Playlist management
- Syncing Players Variation A
- Syncing Players Variation B
- MySqueezebox.com Integration
- TrackStat Ratings
- Caching of Album + Artist Lists
- Album Art Only Screen
- Better Search
- Something else - Please do the poll with different options !


jgriffin_iii;681392 Wrote: 
 I would like the app to display in both landscape (as it does today) and
 in portrait mode.

Hi jgriffin_iii, 

portrait mode right now has the highest priority of all feature
requests right now.
Unfortunately it's an awfull lot of work, as the current design would
just not work in portrait and due to some internal technical reason how
I handle the orientation I also had to rewrite major parts in
SqueezePad.

Right now unfortunately I cannot make any promises on when I'll find
the time to start working on it. I hope I can make it in 2012, but
don't expect anything in early 2012 :(

I'm very sorry for the inconvenience caused.


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Re: [slim] Squeeze Server upgrade failed, how to proceed?

2012-01-03 Thread Steinar Bang
 garym garym.55rp3b1325598...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com:

 download  7.7.1 from here:
 http://downloads.slimdevices.com/LogitechMediaServer_v7.7.1/
 then simply install it (click on the .exe file)

Thanks!

 All preferences will be retained.

Probably would have, if I hadn't screwed up and clicked yes on the
Delete logs and settings dialog that was remaining from the uninstall
of the old version.  Just as I had clicked I thought noo but too
late. :-/

 and 7.7.1 is very stable (NOT like 7.6.0)

Good to know.

Unfortunately I haven yet succeeded in scanning the iTunes database.
That is: it says it's scanning it, but nothing shows up in the web
interface...?

Nah... it's just that the web interface of 7.7.1 doesn't work with
opera.  It works in Iceweasel, though.

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