Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Julf
pippin wrote: > It's a funny discussion with different points of views on both sides of > the Atlantic, btw. > Whenever I talk to people in Europe they don't believe in cloud services > and that people will always prefer their own stuff. That could be because if you are in the US, you are alread

Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)

2013-04-07 Thread Julf
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Re: [slim] Date Time screensaver scrolling?

2013-04-07 Thread TheShanMan
Well, it looks like there is nothing wrong with the FuzzyTime code with regard to positioning the text on a slimp3. The bug is actually in the slimp3's centering logic when you give it a string padded with spaces on the front - the spaces just get chopped off. If I change the padding to underscore

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
Mnyb wrote: > > Without understanding all tech I think Erland describes my boom using > mysb.com exclusively . > Correct, that was the comparison I was trying to make. It's not a valid comparison if you look among people in this community who mostly is happy to have LMS installed on a computer

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
mherger wrote: > > I don't know where you got those numbers or even that impression. LMS > will talk to mysb.com to get information (title, album, artwork) about > the next track to be played and (depending on the music service) report > successful playback after some time. But while listening (

Re: [slim] Date Time screensaver scrolling?

2013-04-07 Thread TheShanMan
I took the first step tonight. I figured the code out enough to change it so that it updates once per second rather than once per text change. :) Next I'll probably figure out why the plugin doesn't work right on the slimp3. ---

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Mnyb
Are we comparing what ? Ip3k player directly to mysb.com -whitout any LMS server to intermediate - ? SqueezePlay player directly to mysb.com no server ? Players that can conect to a local server ( LMS for example ) that in turn uses a cloud service(s). Without understanding all tech I think E

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread mherger
erland wrote: > Now, people who have sniffed the network or looked in the server log > files from LMS with network debugging enabled knows how much traffic > there is continuously between the player and server when using the > system. What Logitech did with mysqueezebox.com is essentially to move

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
castalla wrote: > However, maybe I'm a bit of a Luddite as I really don't like all this > 'cloudy' thing > I believe people around here is afraid of the cloud because they have seen mysqueezebox.com and know what happens when it goes down. There are two scenarios: 1. You want to listen to loca

Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)

2013-04-07 Thread GeeJay
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[slim] Oakley juliet sunglasses

2013-04-07 Thread Qmhuang12
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Re: [slim] Date Time screensaver scrolling?

2013-04-07 Thread peterw
TheShanMan wrote: > One thing I noticed is that on first glance it appeared to not work at > all on a slimp3 but on closer inspection it only moves between center > and left. When moving right, it gets stuck in the center position for > the entire time it -should- be on the right half of the scre

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread pippin
mule wrote: > Maybe i really don't get it, but your business model depends on your > cloud services, right? > I can't really comment on the business model but this is not essentially a paid-for cloud service, if that was your impression. > > Why should you then give one the oppertunity to build

Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)

2013-04-07 Thread autopilot
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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread bluegaspode
castalla wrote: > However, maybe I'm a bit of a Luddite as I really don't like all this > 'cloudy' thing ... I think it won't be possible to do without a 'cloud' part. pippin, erland & co want to build a software stack, that is able to run on different hardware from different vendors. Now when

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread mule
pippin wrote: > You can do that with ickStream, if you like. But what is your "cloud at > home"? Most people don't want to have a server running 24/7 and I, for > myself, enjoy having access to music I don't yet know. This will not go > away, people will use online services for a lot of their mus

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread castalla
I'm reluctant to pass comment on any of this, since we have no real idea what ickStream actually is or does. However, maybe I'm a bit of a Luddite as I really don't like all this 'cloudy' thing ... so I guess I'll have to wait with baited breath to see just what this development offers. ---

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread garym
pippin wrote: > It's a funny discussion with different points of views on both sides of > the Atlantic, btw. > Whenever I talk to people in Europe they don't believe in cloud services > and that people will always prefer their own stuff. Some hardware makers > here even still want to include CD d

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread pippin
It's a funny discussion with different points of views on both sides of the Atlantic, btw. Whenever I talk to people in Europe they don't believe in cloud services and that people will always prefer their own stuff. Some hardware makers here even still want to include CD drives and FM receivers, e

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread garym
pippin wrote: > You can do that with ickStream, if you like. But what is your "cloud at > home"? Most people don't want to have a server running 24/7 and I, for > myself, enjoy having access to music I don't yet know. This will not go > away, people will use online services for a lot of their mus

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread pippin
You can do that with ickStream, if you like. But what is your "cloud at home"? Most people don't want to have a server running 24/7 and I, for myself, enjoy having access to music I don't yet know. This will not go away. pi

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread mule
Maybe i don't get it, but where is the difference to Logitech/Mysqueezebox.com when you're talking about "payed cloud service"? When the income will not cover the costs someday, someone will have to make a decision and close the cloud service as logitech did with the squeezeboxes. So where is the

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
Julf wrote: > I believe the project would be more viable if it was open source (it > could still be commercial, just as mysql, red hat etc.). > Parts of it will be open source, we just can't be more open at this stage due to the reasons I mentioned earlier in the thread: http://forums.slimdevic

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Julf
Kim Kruse wrote: > I am very confident with the fact that it is based on a commercial > business model, because it might give possibilities to obtain a stronger > economical market penetration through payed services. Actually, that is the one part that gives me doubts. I believe the project woul

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi, For me this initiative is very good news! The architecture for the setup looks good, an I am very confident with the fact that it is based on a commercial business model, because it might give possibilities to obtain a stronger economical market penetration through payed services. I am look

Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)

2013-04-07 Thread simbo
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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
callesoroe wrote: > Please make sure that we can use our trackstat ratings or at least > export them, so that we not have to rate everything again. It is > essential.. to make smart playlists > Don't worry, I'm in the same situation as you are and I plan to provide a solution for this.

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
Mnyb wrote: > Will you eventually set-up your own webspace and forum faq, dowloads etc > on http://www.ickstream.com/ now it's just an announcement . > We already have, but it's only accessible to the beta group at the moment. However, having said that, we really love this community and want it

Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)

2013-04-07 Thread jimzak
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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Mnyb
Will you eventually set-up your own webspace and forum faq, dowloads etc on http://www.ickstream.com/ now it's just an announcement . I figure you cant leach of logitechs forum space forever , maybe if ickStream directly or indirectly enhances their products

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread callesoroe
erland wrote: > Smart playlists/mixes is definitely something we want to support, > especially since it's functionality which is more or less missing from > most other hardware players except for the Squeezebox. > > I'm not sure we want to rely on MusicIP, since that product > unfortunately is n

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Corelli45
So if LMS failed then the Squeezebox device can still be maintained on your system and local music can be carried in other ways. Sounds great. I look forward seeing the progress you have made. Good luck and thanks again for the investment you've all made. Steve -

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread pippin
Corelli45 wrote: > Will work continue on fixing bugs and stabilising LMS? And just to be clear: none of us have really been developing LMS in the past. OK, Erland has provided a number of patches and extensions but the real development and maintenance has been with others.

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
Corelli45 wrote: > Will work continue on fixing bugs and stabilising LMS? > Maintaining LMS is not on our priority list at the moment, we will just integrate with it. This could of course change in the future if LMS stops working and nobody is willing to maintain it, but LMS is not critical for

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Corelli45
Will work continue on fixing bugs and stabilising LMS? Corelli45's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55246 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 _

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
lrossouw wrote: > Happy to support this development, though I'm not really sure how this > sits with current LMS etc. Is this mainly the mysb.com side being > replaced or is this something more than that? > It's a lot more than a mysqueezebox.com replacement, the current plan is to support LMS

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread SamS
erland wrote: > > From now on the chance of being invited as beta tester will decrease for > people who complains on the name. People who have already posted their > complains will be forgiven for their previous actions. :-) LOL, fair enough! --

Re: [slim] Date Time screensaver scrolling?

2013-04-07 Thread TheShanMan
Nope, that's perfectly fine and understandable. I'm just super happy that it exists at all. I'm a software developer so knowing the code's available, I might just have a look at some point (with what little time I have :)). One thing I noticed is that on first glance it appeared to not work at all

Re: [slim] Date Time screensaver scrolling?

2013-04-07 Thread peterw
TheShanMan wrote: > It's pretty hard to figure out the maximum shift, and if you pick too > large a value the display will "stick" to the left or right side for a > while before reversing direction. It makes it even harder if the time > format doesn't include seconds because it only moves once pe

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread lrossouw
Happy to support this development, though I'm not really sure how this sits with current LMS etc. Is this mainly the mysb.com side being replaced or is this something more than that? lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimd

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Ikabob
As long as it preserves the present ecosystem with all my Squeezies, I will be forever grateful and appreciative. I,too, would be willing to help in any way! Thank you. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread bakker_be
erland wrote: > let's not turn this thread into a name complaints thread. > Theoretically the product name can still be changed, but no promises, an > important factor of the name is also that people remembers it and > discuss it. > > From now on the chance of being invited as beta tester will d

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
Let's not turn this thread into a name complaints thread. Theoretically the product name can still be changed, but no promises, an important factor of the name is also that people remembers it and discuss it. >From now on the chance of being invited as beta tester will decrease for people who com

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread SamS
garym wrote: > And in the US, "icky" is a common phrase for something "gross" or > unpleasant. So the name bothers me a bit as well. But I don't really > care what it is called if it preserves my SB ecosystem and allows me to > add to it in the future. Yep. But maybe now is the best time to co

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread garym
bpa wrote: > Names are very hard to get right and be across many countries and I > don't want to be negative but incorrect name can kill a service. I also > think the name may be a poor choice for UK & Ireland as the word "icky" > is quite common and so when I heard the site first - it did not a

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Mnyb
pippin wrote: > "icky the poo" sounds cute to me ;) > > > > And Apple with "iPad" Please do not design a mascot , I just ordered pizza Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thre

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Mnyb
Actually quite weird name , does not work that well :) and i'm getting used to all share/free ware that goes with linux , that can be named just about anything and usually have nothing to do with it's function. Well Sony got away with "walkman" --

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread pippin
Corelli45 wrote: > Will the new software enable similar functionality to the current > Ipeng+Squeezebox Touch set up? And will we be able to continue to use > current add ons such as Triode's Spotify and Enhanced Digital Output > plug ins? > With current add-ons we will have to see. There might

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread erland
Corelli45 wrote: > Will the new software enable similar functionality to the current > Ipeng+Squeezebox Touch set up? > Yes Corelli45 wrote: > And will we be able to continue to use current add ons such as Triode's > Spotify and Enhanced Digital Output plug ins? > It's too early to say at the

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Julf
pippin wrote: > Well, it was obviously tried out on at least one. How bad is it? Well, you *could* have called it "ickypoo"... :) Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: htt

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread pippin
jo-wie wrote: > I would say it sounds like the idiom for I stream when you live in > Berlin. :D That was the idea. Plus maybe an "extreme" sound-alike. ModelCitizen wrote: > It is great news. However, it is a real shame the name was not tried out > on a native English speaker before being dec

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread ajkidle
pippin wrote: > Next time Rhapsody changes their encryption it will stop working on the > old devices, I'm sure Naive of me to think otherwise, but you've made me nervous again... Does the ickStream development possibly provide a solution for such an event, or is your focus on the Radio/Tou

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread bpa
ModelCitizen wrote: > It is great news. However, it is a real shame the name was not tried out > on a native English speaker before being decided upon. > > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/icky Names are very hard to get right and be across many countries and I don't want to be negativ

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread ModelCitizen
Peter314 wrote: > Good news! I shall follow developments with great interest. > Not sure about the ickstream name though. Maybe it sounds better to > German ears?! It is great news. However, it is a real shame the name was not tried out on a native English speaker before being decided upon. htt

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread Corelli45
Will the new software enable similar functionality to the current Ipeng+Squeezebox Touch set up? And will we be able to continue to use current add ons such as Triode's Spotify and Enhanced Digital Output plug ins? Steve Co

Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-07 Thread jo-wie
Peter314 wrote: > Not sure about the ickstream name though. Maybe it sounds better to > German ears?! I would say it sounds like the idiom for I stream when you live in Berlin. :D jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevi