Re: [slim] LMS/DLNA (I think) confusion
With LMS you don't need DLNA for playing music files on another computer on your network. You can do that through network shares. Once LMS has scanned the files on the other computer, they appear and function exactly as if they were local files. As for games, Netflix, etc, I have no idea. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100244 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS/DLNA (I think) confusion
alextab wrote:
What I want: A music server that connects to my audio system and plays
both local media and streamed audio. And by this I mean:
1) Local media - stored on the music server and connect via file
sharing.
2) Streamed audio - the audio from media played on computers that are
NOT the music server. So for example if I wanted to watch Netflix, a DVD
or play a game on a separate computer the audio would be wirelessly
streamed to the music server.
I set up Debian, LMS and Squeezelite and had the first part.
movies, games and music have very different characteristics and
due to this requires different solutions.
If you want a solution that works for all, you likely want to look at
some kind of networked sound card or wireless speaker solution rather
than a Squeezebox/LMS/DLNA setup.
For audio, Squeezebox/LMS works great.
For games you really need an audio cable between the computer and the
audio equipment or some kind of networked sound card/wireless speaker.
Using LMS/Squeezebox won't work because the audio will be delayed due to
buffering and using DLNA won't work because you are unlikely going to
find a good way to make all games output their audio to a DLNA
renderer.
For movies you are likely also going to get sync issues if you try to
use LMS/Squeezebox for output of audio and output the video directly
from the computer, the reason for this is also buffering which will
result in that the audio and video isn't synced. DLNA will work for
movies stored on your local network but it's unlikely to work for online
movie streaming services like Netflix.
alextab wrote:
It seems like DLNA answers the second part but I can't seem to wrap my
head around it. I think what I want is, if I understand DLNA correctly:
DLNA Server on PC
DLNA Controller on PC
DLNA Renderer on Music Server
I'd love any guidance on how to get this setup or if I am on the right
track. Thanks.
My first advice is that pretty much the only scenario where DLNA works
is for viewing movies stored somewhere on your network where:
- DLNA Server runs on a PC/NAS which have direct access to the movie
files on a local or network mounted harddisk.
- DLNA Controller/Renderer runs on your TV, DVD/blueray player or
similar device which handles both audio and video playback.
- Depending on which products you use, it might also be possible to run
the DLNA controller on a separate computer, tablet, smartphone.
Having said this, you can use DLNA also for music listening, but it's
often hard to get it reliable since people tend to mix hardware from
different manufacturers when they use DLNA. But if you want to go this
route, the best DLNA controller I've seen for music is Kinsky by Linn
(http://oss.linn.co.uk/trac/wiki/Kinsky) and using this you will be able
to access music stored on one computer and output the audio signal
through a renderer running on another computer (for example the DLNA
renderer built into LMS).
Forget about DLNA for streaming movies from online services (like
Netflix) or games, it's going to be too hard to make them output the
audio and video through a DLNA renderer. Some services/games might have
support for it, but most doesn't.
Finding a solution for Netflix is pretty easy since TV's, DVD/blueray
players, AppleTV, Chromecast and similar devices often have native
support for Netflix these days, just select a device and connect that
directly to your amplifier and display/TV.
For games and other online video streaming services my recommendation
would be to investigate some kind of networked sound card or wireless
speakers where you can output the audio directly from the computer
running the game to the amplifier/speaker without going through an extra
computer/server. For games you really don't want to have any delays, so
even if you would succeed to get the audio/video in sync you would need
the audio/video to play immediately and not five seconds after you have
moved your character in the game. I don't have any personal experience
with networked sound cards and wireless speakers, it's possible that
they will introduce too much latency/delays for them to be useful in a
gaming setup.
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
You may also want to try my Android apps 'Squeeze Display'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.rssphotoshow)
*Interested in the future of music streaming ? 'ickStream - A world of
music at your fingertips'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStreamp=743516)*.
SqueezePlug on Pi�what am I doing wrong?
After reading and discussing matters here a while ago, I put together a Pi (rev. B) to run SqueezePlug. I got various parts (PSU, WiFi adapter, etc. from the approved lists, and put it together using the video instructions at squeezeplug.de. I installed both LMS and SqueezeLite. THE GOOD: The server portion of this seems to be working well. I can connect to it with iPeng, and play music from the server either in iPeng's internal player, or sending the audio through my SBTouch with no problem whatsoever. THE BAD: While the server seems to be running fine, the player is the exact opposite. Using the headphone jack (along with good headphones) for audio is a painful experience, the music stuttering and distorted. It almost seems like the Pi is putting out a prodigious amount of RF noise, every bit of which is interfering with the audio. It's absolutely unlistenable, whether playing music on the Pi's internal LMS, or a a server on my NAS. THE UGLY: Well, maybe that isn't such a problem, as I plan to go straight from the Pi into my AVR's input using HDMI cables. But here's the problem: even if I explicitly have setup configure the Pi to use the HDMI for audio output, nothing comes out when I plug it into my AVR's HDMI input. I have checked said input with other sources, using the same cable, and can verify it works; so the problem appears to be restricted to the Pi. Any suggestions? the nightfly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42075 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100246 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Media Server 7.7.3 released
In an attempt to figure out where my scans were going wrong, I changed some of the advanced scan settings to debug, then started a scan. LMS stopped, and every time I tried to restart it failed. It would say starting and then stop without ever reaching running. That prevented me from entering the advanced settings to change the scan settings back. So, I hit reset logging preferences and run clean up on both preference files and cache. That allowed me to restart LMS. Then I ran a clear library and rescan. That was interrupted by an offer to update, so I had to change the update to no update and delete the 7.7.3 that had already been downloaded to cache. After I did that and unticked the pictures and videos, the scan completed, for the first time in a long time. So, it seems like most things are fixed. I am not sure I have the courage to try auto start, but maybe I will someday. For now, I'm avoiding auto start. Thanks to garym and thanks again to every one here for your guidance and patience. jeffstake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Media Server 7.7.3 released
By the way, I had one other problem that for a moment seemed to be connected to LMS, but was not. I was getting garbled signal with Hi-Res audio files, but then I realized that I had substituted a new optical cable at one point. It worked fine with low res files, and I had not tried hi-res, assuming that if one worked the other would as well. Bad assumption. When I put back the cheaper optical cable, the hi-res files played fine again. jeffstake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How large is your local music library ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95676 Question: How large is your local music library ? - More than 100 000 songs - Between 50 000 - 100 000 songs - Between 25 000 - 50 000 songs - Between 10 000 - 25 000 songs - Between 1000 - 10 000 songs - Less than 1000 songs - Don't have a local library (only use internet radio and streaming services) Total Images: 0 Total Videos: 0 Total Tracks: 28,043 Total Albums: 1,455 Total Artists: 424 Total Genres: 132 Total Playing Time: 1683:56:32 Johnboy169's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95676 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Lou Reed - RIP
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lou-reed-velvet-underground-leader-and-rock-pioneer-dead-at-71-20131027 *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Lou Reed - RIP
This hits close to home. I just listened to New York and Songs For Drella yesterday. Goodbye Lou. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Lou Reed - RIP
This hits close to home. I just listened to -New York- and -Songs For Drella- yesterday. Goodbye Lou. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Media Server 7.7.3 released
Hi, I'm running linux mageia 3. I installed the rpm without problem but it doesn't start. My perl version is : # perl -v This is perl 5, version 16, subversion 3 (v5.16.3) built for x86_64-linux-thread-multi When I try to run it manually, I have the following : # /usr/libexec/squeezeboxserver NOTE: Class::XSAccessor 1.05+ not found, install it for better performance DBD::SQLite object version 1.40 does not match bootstrap parameter 1.34_01 at /usr/lib/perl5/5.16.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm line 213. Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/Slim/Utils/DbCache.pm line 11. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/Slim/Utils/DbCache.pm line 11. (... same 2 lines several times) I installed DBD::SQLite using cpan. I also installed many perl things using either the package management software or cpan, but It still doesn't work so I think I'm not going in the right direction. I know nothing about perl. Before 7.7.3, I was using 7.8 from http://www.jamesarbrown.com/?p=186 because of perl version problem with 7.7.2, but I've another system to migrate to mageia 3 and I'd rather use official package. Before that I was using 7.7.2 with mageia 2, using perl 5.14. I mention this is the the first time I've a problem with the regular LMS packages, so I suppose there is a difference on how this last version installs itself or with my linux. Thanks a lot for your help. I'm not an expert on linux, so please be patient. Antonio Antoniop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Media Server 7.7.3 released
I added support for Perl 5.16/64 bit only a few weeks ago to 7.8. You might give that a try. Michael http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR, Smart Mix mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox Boom very tough hardware. 3 years front the ocean
Hello, just to mentione I am always surprise that my squeezebox is still working. Located without any protection (24hours,7D/week) 25 feet from the ocean without any protection. Sometime I do no use it for weeks, no problem. *A picture from where the Squeezebox is located* : 15259 +---+ |Filename: villaplaya_logitech.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15259| +---+ Don P's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60728 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Lou Reed - RIP
Sad news indeed. He wasn't for everybody, and wasn't always easy, but when he was good he was truly great. Living Room: Duet, Adcom GFA 545II, Adcom GFP 555II, Polk SDA 2B Dining Room: Paradigm Atom Monitor v.5 Bedroom: SB3, Pioneer VSX 5700S,Pinnacle PN 5+, MK VX-7 Subwoofer Anywhere Else As Needed: Boom Router: Asus RT-N56U Server: LMS Version 7.8.0, Acer Aspire Laptop (Wired...Finally), Windows 7 Home Fahzz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Boom very tough hardware. 3 years front the ocean
If your Boom does stop working, I will feel absolutely NO SYMPATHY! What a beautiful spot... cjfreitag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41363 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: SqueezePlug on Pi�what am I doing wrong?
Nobody has any ideas? the nightfly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42075 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100246 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Multichannel on future Squeezebox development?
I was wondering if there is any consideration currently being given to including the ability to play multichannel FLACs on future SB-system development, in particular sending a digital bitstream out the HDMI port? If anyone could give me any information, I'd greatly appreciate it! the nightfly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42075 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100250 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multichannel on future Squeezebox development?
There is no future Squeezebox development. The line was discontinued about a year ago. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100250 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: SqueezePlug on Pi�what am I doing wrong?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97803-piCoPlayer-Squeezelite-on-Microcore-linux-An-embedded-OS-in-RAM-with-Squeezelite A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100246 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
