Re: [slim] Comparisons between current (2022) streaming service integrations?
AxxelH wrote: > Thanks for those who talked about their experiences. Answering my own > questions for Tidal based on a few days use: > > > > Tidal HiFi (not HiFi plus) appears to get me FLAC at CD quality, which > is good enough for me. I have no opinion on MQA. > > > > Works. The generated "My Mixes" playlists for the currently selected > account (see below) are available in the Squeezebox navigation. > > > > Mostly works. Genre and mood playlists are available as top-level > navigation items. Track radio available as a "more" item on per-track > navigation. Artist radio doesn't seem to be available. > > > > Full access to individual tracks and albums, can be played in any > order. > > > > Works differently than Spotty. Spotty combines all associated accounts > into a single "app" view. In the Tidal Squeezebox app a player is > associated with an account and that account is what is used for all > access in the app (favorites, personalization, etc.). The navigation on > player includes an item to allow you to select the account for the > player, and it can be changed at any time. > > > > Appears to be available, but I don't presently use this so I can't > adequately compare. > > > > Tidal Connect is not available. I could use a phone and Spotify Connect > to choose what was playing on the Squeezebox. Here I have to use the > Squeezebox search, navigation, etc. Not fatal for my purposes, if > slightly less convenient. > > > > No idea but seems to work? > > > Overall I'm pleased, this seems like a plausible replacement.In the absence > of Amazon Music, Tidal Hifi looks more attractive than Qobuz coming in at the same price as Spotify. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115849 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comparisons between current (2022) streaming service integrations?
Thanks for those who talked about their experiences. Answering my own questions for Tidal based on a few days use: > - Quality/format/bitrate supported by various plans/price points. Tidal HiFi (not HiFi plus) appears to get me FLAC at CD quality, which is good enough for me. I have no opinion on MQA. > - Access to personalization features of the service (generated > "discover" playlists, etc.). Works. The generated "My Mixes" playlists for the currently selected account (see below) are available in the Squeezebox navigation. > - Access to "radio" features (curated playlists, algorithmic radio). Mostly works. Genre and mood playlists are available as top-level navigation items. Track radio available as a "more" item on per-track navigation. Artist radio doesn't seem to be available. > - Access to the whole catalog vs radio features only (Pandora vs Pandora > Premium). Full access to individual tracks and albums, can be played in any order. > - Support for multiple accounts (in the sense that Spotty allows access > to each logged in user's personalized playlists). Works differently than Spotty. Spotty combines all associated accounts into a single "app" view. In the Tidal Squeezebox app a player is associated with an account and that account is what is used for all access in the app (favorites, personalization, etc.). The navigation on player includes an item to allow you to select the account for the player, and it can be changed at any time. > - Streaming service catalog integration with LMS 8. Appears to be available, but I don't presently use this so I can't adequately compare. > - "Remote control" functionality, if applicable (Spotify Connect, Tidal > Connect, etc.). Tidal Connect is not available. I could use a phone and Spotify Connect to choose what was playing on the Squeezebox. Here I have to use the Squeezebox search, navigation, etc. Not fatal for my purposes, if slightly less convenient. > - Under active development? No idea but seems to work? Overall I'm pleased, this seems like a plausible replacement. AxxelH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66410 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115849 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Topology...
d6jg wrote: > Get rid of that static route you created. ItÂs not needed and wrongly > set up anyway. Yup, that went earlier. I set up the Boom for wifi also - it always used to be wifi but it lives close to fritzbox so a few months ago I thought to get rid of yet another wifi device and make use of the fritzbox' ethernet sockets - AND... it didn't work. Same thing, won't connect to the local LMS over wifi but happy to connect to mysqueezebox.com. So, it's not the Radios; it's the LMS somehow. I think I might try installing LMS directly and seeing if that's any different to the container version - I just wish I could workout what I've done over the weekend to stuff it up (if anything). pseud's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41902 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115872 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Neil Young at it again
kidstypike wrote: > *Pop Pop* is my favourite. great album! right up there with her album, "Court and Spark". I kid, I kid:p *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Neil Young at it again
garym wrote: > By the way, I love Rickie Lee Jone's debut album! *Pop Pop* is my favourite. *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/Pi screen/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DAC HAT > Edifier *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > Topping E30 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Echo Show 8 *Garage* - Rpi4/pCP/AP mode > Touch > Edifier *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi, 1xDAC32, 1xCORE32 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Neil Young at it again
kidstypike wrote: > Nice one! ;) By the way, I love Rickie Lee Jone's debut album! *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Neil Young at it again
garym wrote: > From Joe Rogan (says hes a Neil Young fan): So no hard feelings > towards Neil Young. And definitely no hard feelings towards Joni > Mitchell. I love her too. I love her music, Chuck E.s In Love is a > great song. > > Huh? Chuck Es in Love?? Maybe his favorite Neil song is "Horse With > No Name" :cool: Nice one! ;) *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.1.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on Sata SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/Pi screen/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DAC HAT > Edifier *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > Topping E30 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Echo Show 8 *Garage* - Rpi4/pCP/AP mode > Touch > Edifier *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi, 1xDAC32, 1xCORE32 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Neil Young at it again
>From Joe Rogan (says hes a Neil Young fan): So no hard feelings towards Neil Young. And definitely no hard feelings towards Joni Mitchell. I love her too. I love her music, Chuck E.s In Love is a great song. Huh? Chuck Es in Love?? Maybe his favorite Neil song is "Horse With No Name" :cool: *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.2.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Topology...
Get rid of that static route you created. Its not needed and wrongly set up anyway. Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115872 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Topology...
Thanks @gordonb3 - the leases expire/ renew every 10 mins for all machines, is that what you mean? I connected via cable today - the Radios found the LMS and updated to v8.0.1 r16867 pretty much immediately - I was all joy while they were connected via cable, but then when I disconnected the cable it was exactly as before: the Radios pick up the network without apparent problem, they're able to connect to mysqueezebox.com but unable to connect to LMS (blue wifi logo until connected to mysqueezebox.com). The wired connection is straight to the fritzbox - replacing the printer with each of the Radios. One thing I did notice which I thought a bit strange was that the Radios seem to have the same MAC address whether wired or wireless connection. I'm really tearing my hair out (not a lot to tear at actually). Is the `SlimServer-0.3.lua.patch` included in the 8.0.1 firmware or does it need applying again? Are there any tests that can be run on either the Radios or LMS that I haven't thought of? Here's `traceroute` for both wired and wireless to frontserver and then wirelessly to archerc7v2: Code: # traceroute frontserver traceroute to frontserver (192.168.0.20), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 frontserver.lan (192.168.0.20) 1.051 ms 0.710 ms 0.848 ms # traceroute frontserver traceroute to frontserver (192.168.0.20), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 * * * ... 30 * * * # traceroute archerc7v2 traceroute to archerc7v2 (192.168.0.10), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 archerc7v2.lan (192.168.0.10) 12.333 ms 8.090 ms 7.971 ms # Both frontserver and archerc7v2 are connected by wire to the fritzbox so should behave the same. So, there must the something funny going on with frontserver - or at least between the Radios and frontserver as they're both reachable via other network devices. pseud's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41902 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115872 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Neil Young at it again
Julf wrote: > Or not... Oh, well. Seems I fall in the "Or not..." category after NPR's blind audio quality test Bubble burst, but wiser. It's available here: https://tinyurl.com/mrnbvz4e threej's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66492 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PiCore
Peet wrote: > LMS webpage does not work anymore. can you get to the picore browser UI? If not, follow this: https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/determine_your_pcp_ip_address/ If you can use my suggestion above to get to the lms page. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115873 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comparisons between current (2022) streaming service integrations?
tknx wrote: > I started the same sort of analysis, but Connect functionality is > mandatory for me so it ended up being Spotify. I would love to switch to > Tidal, but without Tidal Connect, it is a no-go.Did you try plugin I > mentioned in other thread for Airplay support (ios devices)? It up to CD quality but basically just like connect.. I'm sadly mostly on android so it's LMS Connect app for me and psedu connect with sharing.. 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115849 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comparisons between current (2022) streaming service integrations?
I started the same sort of analysis, but Connect functionality is mandatory for me so it ended up being Spotify. I would love to switch to Tidal, but without Tidal Connect, it is a no-go. .: LIGEIA Thinkpad T440S · 3× Startech 7.1 USB interfaces · Ubuntu 16.0.4 LTS · 'Musicserver4Lox' (http://music-server.net/) · 2× Dayton MA1260 · Beale IC8-MB tknx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115849 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PiCore
kidstypike wrote: > LMS is IP:*9*000. Sorry. I used 9000 Peet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44328 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115873 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Neil Young at it again
garym wrote: > Yep, that's why I have about 9,000 albums, including most of Neil's and > Joni's. I love streaming for discovery, but anything I really like I > purchase either CD or a download file that I control. Same here. It means that you're not so tied to a Spotify 'library' or playlists. I just migrated from Spotify to Qobuz, most of my Spotify 'library' came ver as Favourites in Qobuz. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 4/pCP7.0/LMS8.1.2/Material with files on QNAP TS-251A Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 > Rega Fono Mini; Naim CD3) 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired), 1 x SqueezeAMP *Office:* LMS8.0.0 running on Raspberry Pi3; Raspberry Pi 3 player with touchscreen/piCorePlayer/IQaudIO DAC and Amp *Portable:* Raspberry Pi 3B/pCP7.0.1/LMS8.1.2/Material, files on Seagate portable drive, powered via power brick Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Topology...
A static lease still must be assigned for the router to register the associated machine in its DNS and routing table. You should enforce renewal of the IP on the LMS machine, or simply wait for the lease to expire. gordonb3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115872 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
