Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
bluegaspode;692174 Wrote: Well sending you a testing version without licence check is no problem. Just drop me a line to support(at)squeezeplayer.com But be aware that SqueezePlayer uses the NDK which might reduce the chances that it would work. That rules it out I'm afraid, no C/C++ libraries can be used which is a shame as I had a bit of hope given that the interface loaded fine. Maybe I'll have a little look at porting squeezeslave using the NDK for Playbook. It would be good to get some experience in that as I normally work in Java/PHP. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
bluegaspode;692063 Wrote: I'm afraid it's not planned to port SqueezePlayer to the playbook right now. You know that the Playbook now includes android compatibility. It has some limitations with regards to running native code however I loaded up my apk from my phone onto my Playbook and it did start and detected my LMS however then the market license check kicked in so I couldn't test playback. If you'd like to test it, as it might require very little effort to port, there is a VM provided by RIM for testing or alternatively I would be very happy to help. I helped a friend convert two android games last week and it took a grand total of 30 minutes to get both running. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
bossanova808;691051 Wrote: You might want to try this also: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?p=1012231 (integrated basic controller/squeezeslave in XBMC) That's what I'm trying to use but it just interacts with the regular squeezeslave binaries. After further experimentation you are right - XBMC was keeping hold of the audio but it was doing so a bit sporadically. Turning of menu navigation sounds in XBMC fixed it. I still get the following error when playing or even listing devices however playback still works fine. Code: Expression 'alsa_snd_pcm_hw_params_set_buffer_size_near( pcm, hwParams, lowLatency )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 904 Expression 'alsa_snd_pcm_hw_params_set_buffer_size_near( pcm, hwParams, lowLatency )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 904 -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
ralphy;691131 Wrote: Try adding -y84 to the command line when starting squeezeslave. No joy with that - I've not had any dropouts or problems apart from the error message showing and I get those error lines even doing squeezebox -L -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
Hi I'm having some trouble getting squeezeplayer to output to the right device. I'm trying to use it on my HTPC connected to my TV via HDMI running XBMCbuntu (a cut down ubuntu distribution with a LXDE desktop that you can optionally boot to). If I just boot straight to XBMC the hdmi audio isn't displayed by squeezeslave -L however if I boot even to the login screen where you can chose which desktop environment to load I get the expected output and I can use squeezeslave just fine. Below are the outputs of aplay -L and -l (identical in both cases) and squeezeslave -l http://pastebin.com/TQs1LngM http://pastebin.com/aBEydASk Any ideas what's wrong here? -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Baby Monitor impacting wireless network?
Use 5GHz wireless, the a band? -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeyTunes - NEW! Remote control app for Blackberry PlayBook
Testing is much easier on the device as you get a proper feel for what is finger sized, I was quite surprised how different the real device was to the simulator. I would guess you need to increase font size for things like Album and Artist text by 20% and similarly increase the height of the rows by that much and add some more spacing between the play and add to playlist icons. Also most apps don't keep their top menus on display all the time, they use the swipe down action for that. Your top menu would fit right in with the look of the native swipe menus and clicking the config button would take you to a full screen settings page. A good example of the native look and feel would be the device settings menu which is available in the simulator AFAIK. Swipe diagonally from the top left to see what I mean. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87671 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeyTunes - NEW! Remote control app for Blackberry PlayBook
Nice work, I hope you got one of the free dev playbooks for this. Couple of points of feedback. *If you turn on a SB after starting up the app it doesn't appear in the players dropdown. *Albums and artists could do with being cached, it shouldn't have to take all that time to populate the list every time you go into artists or albums. *Artists and albums text is too small, the artwork could do with being much bigger and finger friendly. *The playlist text is too small, there's lots of room in each line to increase it. *Volume up and down isn't graduated enough, you can click it several times without the visual indicator going up. *If you select an artist there's no way to go back to the artist list at the place you were at *No shuffle/repeat controls *Could do with being smoother scrolling -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87671 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
mherger;627987 Wrote: Does all this focus on HTC imply that some users on other devices can fast scroll large lists without locking up? AFAIK the screen locking up and displaying of multiple lists on top of each other is HTC only. This assumption might be wrong, but I lack other information. I experienced the same symptoms on my tablet. Which is? Galaxy? Xoom? -- Michael I've seen this a little on a ZTE Blade when running CM7, just occasionally when trying to scroll a list fast. I've not seen it when running Android 2.2 but I suspect that's because scrolling is too slow to be useable. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
pakman00;627087 Wrote: Apologizes if this has been brought up already, but has anyone else have problems with the screen not scrolling properly through playlists, album lists, artist lists, etc... On my HTC Desire, it seems the original screen gets superimposed on the scrolling list. A bit hard to describe in words so the attached screenshot shows the problem I have. Don't see this issue on my wife's iPhone... I have been playing around with a Gingerbread w/ HTC Sense rom so not sure if this might be the source of the problem. Sadly I see that as well, more on Gingerbread than on Froyo but Froyo had worse scrolling and reaction speeds overall. I'd recommend trying SqueezeCommander from the marketplace. It works extremely fluidly for me and has access to all the SB functions. About the only plus for the native app at the moment is it looks much more like the SB default web UI and UI on the Radio (and I presume Touch). That will probably change when SB get round to releasing an improved version of the app. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How can I listen to my music in the garden?
Try the house I'm in at the moment. Not just solid brick between rooms but 10+ of stone. Wifi can be hard to pickup 10 meters away from the hotspot in a different room. Strategically placed repeaters and POE are the only way to get a decent signal throughout. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87094 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How can I listen to my music in the garden?
TheLastMan;626630 Wrote: Sounds like you have a real problem there. By the way, POE is Power over Ethernet. That is the technique of providing electrical power to network devices (WAP, router, switch) using spare conductors in the ethernet cable rather than a separate power cable. Used most often in commercial buildings where WAPs are located above ceilings and in walls where it can reduce cable clutter. I think you mean HomePlug or Powerline networking which you could abbreviate to EOP, ethernet over power ;) Yes you're right, I got the acronym the wrong way round. I should know better since I work in IT! -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87094 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
pippin;626308 Wrote: Yep. Because it's a web-app, not a native one. That doesn't really make sense, mobile themed web ui scrolls just fine as do other large web pages such as my Zimbra web mail which is relatively heavy on the javascript. There is absolutely no reason that a web UI should scroll so poorly unless it has some sort of horrible wrapper for multi platform compatibility and I don't see why you would need that? All the major phone platforms iOS, Android, Blackberry and even WebOS support HTML(5)+Javascript apps which should keep most of the UI cross platform. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How can I listen to my music in the garden?
howie.stone;626339 Wrote: That's clear. Thanks. But how do I choose one? There are hundreds of these things! There doesn't seem to be any objective measure of their strength or their reliability. It would be great if someone who has had positive experiences would recommend one. Something like this would work http://www.ebuyer.com/product/220595 The wireless N devices are faster and have better range than the B or G ones and in particular look out for ones advertised as 300Mbps rather than 150Mbps as these have 3 antenna rather than 2. The routers with visible external antenna often allow those antenna to be replaced with bigger perhaps directional antenna which might help if your garden is very big but realistically if you can site the extender at a window you shouldn't have range problems unless there are trees in the way (leaves are great at soaking up wireless signals). -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87094 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Thanks for the explanation Michael that makes more sense. I would say though that it might be worth considering changing the implementation as you must know it really is quite slow compared to just about any other controller apps. Even though its not ideal pagination would IMHO be far better than the slowness that is currently exhibited. I think the real problem though is that its a web app yet this is not obvious when using it. I expected a native app where the buttons would respond instantly rather than a web page where the expectation is that things take longer to react. I know its not what you'd want to hear but I think you should consider whether a web app is the best platform for a controller? I may of course be totally wrong about this and there may be devices that can deal with the JS you are using and be smooth but the reviews on the marketplace suggest this isn't the case. Saying the app is free is a bit disingenuous, its there presumably to encourage sales of your hardware. I know one of the reasons I recently purchased a SBRadio was because I heard of the release of the Android app and re-evaluated whether SB met all my requirements since I was in the market for a multiroom solution. If there is a good Android app which does away witht he need to purchase yet another remote I'll probably be looking to buy two or three more SB devices. Anyway thank you for your reply, this is all in the spirit of constructive criticism and I think its great to find the devs interacting on a public forum. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
pippin;626451 Wrote: Now I think the point is that there have been good Android Apps that can replace your remote for years now. They are not from Logitech, OK, but they are still there. If brand is more important to you than functionality, of course... Yes I do agree but that there are apps that are native and do give good experiences but from Logitechs point of view there are two points of view. Firstly surely if you are going to release an app you should at least make sure its going to provide a good experience. Secondly there is also that psychological thing (and its crazy I know after spending £100+ on a radio) that £3 on an app is annoying. Finally I work in IT dealing with a lot of regular consumers. There is a significant proportion who would get a Squeezebox, see the advertised app download it and find it sluggish and simply assume all other apps are like that. If they were instead delighted with a nice responsive UI that made them want to use their SBs more then they are far more likely to buy more SB for other rooms. I don't want to even go into other reasons why having a good free app will drive more sales but I can certainly think of a few. Anyway I'm just coming at this from the point of view of someone who has just bought a SB and has only moved to Android phone from Symbian in the last 4 months, previously things like apps to control the device wouldn't of factored into the decision. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Guy48065;626477 Wrote: As one of the regular consumers Jaicee speaks of I had high expectations for the OEM-developed app. The Duet remote I purchased to control my SBC is extremely limited in navigating through 80,000 tracks so naturally an app I can install on a 10-inch tablet with its big screen and qwerty keyboard holds a lot of promise but the actual experience has been frustrating. Someone not quite as stubborn as I am might abandon the entire system for another one marketed as the answer. The vast majority of SB purchasers are unaware of forums and the possibility of upgrades, patches, hacks, work-arounds, etc. and their experience is limited to the out-of-the-box experience only. Well anyone who gets on a forum and posts about their experiences is probably not the sort of person I was referring to. I didn't mean it to sound like a slander either but there are a lot of people who have no interest in computers at all and want it to just work out of the box as you say. Want proof? Look at Apple. Its probably the same way I feel about say cars, I just want one to get me from A to B yet there are plenty of people who will tweak and mod their vehicles for what I see as no gain. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
pippin;626512 Wrote: Oh, but to elaborate: ask the OP. For HIM, it was obviously a differentiator that the App came from Logitech. Actually I do understand why Logitech feel they have to have their own, branded App, what I feel sad about is what I feel they are doing with this product line which would just have so much more potential if done right. That said: using Web Apps to write universal Apps is a big tend right now, expect to see more of that. Also, expect it to be from the companies that you will eventually see leave the market because they didn't explore the potential of the platforms they used... What can I say, I was attracted by the fact that there was a remote app and I naturally assumed the Logitech one would be decent. I think you're right though about the potential of the system. The reason I bought a SB was because we're moving house and wanted a multiroom system that could sync to play back all our music. Naturally I looked at the other options, Sonos seemed nice but they were expensive, had a crazy mesh network making extending the range hard and there were no battery powered options available. SB seemed to have a good range of devices to cover all my needs, not be too expensive, not need yet another controller, could be controlled by my harmony remote or phone and it has a load of community apps too. I really do hope Logitech keep the product line moving, I was about to buy a Boom to go with the Radio but after researching it here it seems clear that anything that's not a Touch/Radio is probably EOL and won't be getting any new apps like the Spotify one. Also, not directed at pippin :), why develop an app at all and not invest enough time to get it working smoothly? I'm hopeful though as the app has only been out for a month, in the mean time it looks like I'm buying SqueezeCommander. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How can I listen to my music in the garden?
The most reliable method would be to buy a Wireless Access Point from a computer store, place it near a window facing your garden and connect it to your existing BT modem with a long network cable. This will hopefully give you the range you need but the down side is you may need to run a long cable between rooms. Using the repeater option mentioned is also good and requires no cables between your router and the wireless access point but is a little more fiddly to setup and in my experience isn't quite as reliable as the first option. You should be able to do both options yourself by following the manual that comes with the access point but if you can't you would need to get an IT guy to come out and sort it. It should take them 30 mins max to set it all up for you and check your radio can get a signal. It would be worth listing the model you wish to buy here first as most but not all support the repeater function. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87094 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
I tried out the Logitech app today which was a big selling point of Squeezebox to me (I don't want any extra remotes especially ones that cost £150!) but was a bit disappointed. The layout seems very nice and it has all the functionality but boy is it slow! I haven't read through all 19 pages here but I hope there's an explanation for why simple things such as artists lists are almost impossible to scroll through. I was expecting something as slick as the XBMC remote app which if the developers haven't tried they should have a look at. It looks nice and is very fast, can wake up XBMC machines through WOL etc and is generally very good at what it does, about the only thing it doesn't do well is the error messages it pops when you don't have a wireless connection which are a bit user unfriendly (but they don't crash the app). I've tried out Squeezedroid which works but is not quite as pretty as I'd like but is otherwise quite functional. It looks like I'll have to purchase squeezecommander as that has been getting good reviews and the authoer on these boards seems very responsive. For your information my phone is an Orange San Francisco (rebadged ZTE Blade) with Froyo on board. I've tried it with CM7 and that was perhaps a tiny bit faster but overall still very sluggish. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
