Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-24 Thread AndreE

Hi Jim,

Would you share the idea about your approach?
It would be interesting for me (I am in some thoughts about the backup
concept)

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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-24 Thread Mnyb

Also learned by experience always rip lossles (otherwise you will do it
again later ) fix all tags and cover art while at it, don' t rip and
adjust weird tagging later you will make a mess.

My approach while ripping was : rip a bunch of CD's fix all taggs plunk
them into your music directory/disc.. let squeezecenter scan, check if
everything looks and sort ok on the screen if not adjust tags scan
again.
Then put today's work on the backup disc.

And don't put all files in the same dir use some intelligent schema
like artist/album/track1...n   .

I have a long distance extra backup I p2p (skype) to a friend 600km
from me.
This get done with 2 weeks interval. And My Friend backup some of his
files with me


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-23 Thread aubuti

AndreE;460420 Wrote: 
 I know this feeling.
 Bigger part was ripped, but then... there was an electricity incident
 and the data was... lost together with HDD 
 HDD was in old PC - no big lose, but the time - this is regrettable ;-(
That's why everyone should have a backup copy of his/her library,
because a lot of time is invested in ripping and tagging, and even 1TB
drives are cheap these days. Ideally the backup should be kept in a
different place, because sometimes these incidents (electricity surge,
fire, flood, theft) strike more than the main HDD.


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-23 Thread AndreE

Hi aubuti,

You are completely right.
It is just a question of when to make a back up.
The process was just somewhere in the middle... and there were no
indication to have anything happening... never before... but you know.
It is unpredictable and lies in the area of probabilities of events
where we have no power to influence
The learning curve is passed... let’s see whether the education was
good enough to stay for long


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-23 Thread aubuti

AndreE;460634 Wrote: 
 Hi aubuti,
 
 You are completely right.
 It is just a question of when to make a back up.
That's easy: whenever it takes less time to make a backup than it does
for you to reproduce the data that will be lost when something happens.
And something *always* happens. To take the most basic case, all hard
drives eventually fail. Your time is valuable. 

Back everything up to an external USB drive. Even though it might take
hours or days to backup a big library, it takes less than an hour of
your time to start the backup going, and that includes the time it takes
to buy the USB drive. Then store the drive somewhere else (I keep mine
at work), and update the backups periodically as you add new albums or
edit your tags. Maybe $100 for the drive and an hour of your time to
protect tens or hundreds of hours spent ripping and tagging -- you do
the math.

The simple question is how much of your work (ie, time) are you willing
to put at risk?


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-23 Thread amey01

aubuti;460790 Wrote: 
 That's easy: whenever it takes less time to make a backup than it does
 for you to reproduce the data that will be lost when something happens.
 And something *always* happens. To take the most basic case, all hard
 drives eventually fail. Your time is valuable. 
 
 Back everything up to an external USB drive. Even though it might take
 hours or days to backup a big library, it takes less than an hour of
 your time to start the backup going, and that includes the time it takes
 to buy the USB drive. Then store the drive somewhere else (I keep mine
 at work), and update the backups periodically as you add new albums or
 edit your tags. Maybe $100 for the drive and an hour of your time to
 protect tens or hundreds of hours spent ripping and tagging -- you do
 the math.
 
 The simple question is how much of your work (ie, time) are you willing
 to put at risk?

Absolutely. And most importantly, don't use RAID. One popped capacitor
in the NAS' power supply or dropping something on the case is all it
takes to take out both disks at once. It's NOT backup. 

I too back up to a USB hard disk, then periodically take this to work
and run a backup to Ultrium tape, which I keep in my office. Do the
backup as you go - every time I add a new album, I FTP it to both disks.


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-23 Thread aubuti

amey01;460838 Wrote: 
 Absolutely. And most importantly, don't use RAID. One popped capacitor
 in the NAS' power supply or dropping something on the case is all it
 takes to take out both disks at once. It's NOT backup.
I completely agree that RAID is not backup. But I wouldn't go so far as
saying don't use RAID. It has its uses. RAID's biggest advantage for
music libraries is that if one of the drives dies you can switch to the
other and not have any downtime. That said, I personally don't
understand the urge for zero downtime for one's own music collection. I
mean, I love my music, but none of it is so critical that I can't live
with it for 24 hours until I can get the off-site backup, get another
drive, and restore the music library. Besides, there's always
SqueezeNetwork, Pandora, Napster, etc. until my library is back in
action.


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-23 Thread amey01

aubuti;460840 Wrote: 
 I completely agree that RAID is not backup. But I wouldn't go so far as
 saying don't use RAID. It has its uses. RAID's biggest advantage for
 music libraries is that if one of the drives dies you can switch to the
 other and not have any downtime. That said, I personally don't
 understand the urge for zero downtime for one's own music collection. I
 mean, I love my music, but none of it is so critical that I can't live
 with it for 24 hours until I can get the off-site backup, get another
 drive, and restore the music library. Besides, there's always
 SqueezeNetwork, Pandora, Napster, etc. until my library is back in
 action.

Sorry - I meant -don't use RAID for backup- - yes - RAID is -high
availability-, not backup! If high availability is what you need, go
ahead.just have a backup as well!

It just gets my goat because I see so many NAS/RAID devices marketed as
backup and never lose another file and all that BS. There is going to
be a lot of sorry people out there!


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-23 Thread JJZolx

AndreE;460634 Wrote: 
 It is just a question of when to make a back up.

While you are ripping your collection you can't backup often enough. 
I'd find a way to make it fairly easy and run a backup every night or
two.  Depends on how much work and time you're willing to lose in the
event of a drive failure.


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[slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-22 Thread AndreE

Hi to everybody,

I am in the process of digitalization of my CD library.
My Linux box is working fast (if I can say so) with factor ~3-3,5…
based on what I have seen in different posts it is a decent speed. And
all tries did not bring any further increase.
I’ve triedto use of my notebook with MS vista installed. The
digitalization works fine… but I could not get to the same standard what
I have in Linux. File naming is different. The tags from OpenDb were not
retrived in the same way or with the same quality.

How to get it “synchronized” from the naming convention and tags point
of view?
What tools on Vista may bring the same what I can get from Grip + FLAC
converter?

Any suggestions?

Any suggestion would be very appreciated


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-22 Thread funkstar

CDs are already digital, you are just ripping them, not digitising them
(sorry, couldn't help myself).

If you are pulling data from OpenDB on both Windows and Linux, the data
will be the same. What are you using on Windows to rip with? is it using
a different DB.

As for naming convention, that is entirely up to the app you use and
how it is configured.

I use dbPoweramp. It does cost, but it is an excellent app, easy
interface, very high quality rips and very flexible. It uses a variety
of different sources for its meta data, including the AMG database which
includes album are and a lot of very accurate data.

The folder structure and naming convention is completely customisable.
You can even put clauses in so the naming is different for multi-CD
sets.


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*1*x squeezebox touch
*1*x squeezebox boom
*2*x controller, *1*x receiver
*2*x sb3 (sliver/black), *1*x sb2 wired (silver)
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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-22 Thread Mnyb

Is not dB power amp made so you can run multiple instances and use all
of the drives in the PC ? most people have two these days ? i may be
wrong but worth checking out.


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-22 Thread AndreE

funkstar, 
I know that I am not really digitalizing ;-)
you are right, ripping... would be a better word

Mnyb, 
the idea about two drivers is an interesting one. I had two, but it was
some hassle on my old Pentium box and I’ve removed one. It could be
potentially due to the difference: one drive is PATA and second was a
SATA. I will try another drive to see whether this would be wokring.

Are there any similar to Grip + FLAC solutions on Vista? (…and if
they are freeware – even better)
Who use what?


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-22 Thread funkstar

Correct dbPoweramp has a batch ripper that will use multiple drives, I
don't know if there is a limit.

CDex is free and pretty good, EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is free and high
quality, but can be a pain to use and configure.

Flac can be used with any of them.


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-22 Thread Mnyb

EAC is also good but is not as plug and play as dBpower amp, but it is
free, you have to get the covers from other source possibly using mp3tag
finess the tags and add images .

EAC is highly flexible so you can probably make it tag the right way.
But it requires some fiddling.


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-22 Thread AndreE

I know this feeling.
Bigger part was ripped, but then... there was an electricity incident
and the data was... lost together with HDD 
HDD was in old PC - no big lose, but the time - this is regrettable ;-(


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Re: [slim] How I may speed-up the digitalization of my CDs?

2009-09-22 Thread amey01

As long as you really are using the same source for your tags, it sounds
to me like a configuration issue between the Linux and Windows PCs. 

Go through the tagging settings and ensure you are using the same
tagging formats and settings. Also, ensure you are mapping the metadata
to the same fields in your resulting FLAC files.

Best of luck - tagging is the No.1 PITA in audio ripping!


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