Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-30 Thread mandryka
ftlight wrote: > Thanks for the update! How much are you paying for 2TB? > > Bill £50 pa mandryka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53967 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-24 Thread ftlight
mandryka wrote: > I have very positive feelings about Backblaze. Once the initial backup > is made you set the controls to automatic and subsequent backups occur > automatically and slowly in the background, and with no noticeable > effects on the computer or network. It took 3 weeks to upload

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-23 Thread mandryka
I have very positive feelings about Backblaze. Once the initial backup is made you set the controls to automatic and subsequent backups occur automatically and slowly in the background, and with no noticeable effects on the computer or network. It took 3 weeks to upload 2TB. Upload speeds slow

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-12 Thread matka
lostboy wrote: > I use Crashplan as part of tiered backup strategy, and have done for > past five years or so. It's $60 p.a. for unlimited encrypted storage for > one PC, so a little cheaper than Amazon with current exchange rates, but > backup specific. They will backup anything 'local' to a

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-11 Thread pgnyc
hi, like some of you i have 2 HP microservers , one with unraid (nas server) , one under Slackware ( lms, mail server, imap server, calendar server , etc..) . the lms is connected thru SMB to the unraid. everyday a backup is done to an attached external drive. (total on monday, incremental

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-11 Thread atrocity
bakker_be wrote: > Ever since they stopped allowing the use of rclone, I've been > investigating alternatives. This is just another factor prompting a > switch. Since I only need a backup solution I intend to try Crashplan > ... I love that I learned about rclone mere days before it was banned.

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-09 Thread bakker_be
Squeezemenicely wrote: > Oh no! Amazon have killed "Music in the cloud" for me. This is really > terrible. I had setup my NAS to sync my music files to the cloud - all > was great. > > Now they changed the game, no more unlimited and I would have to pay 180 > Dollars for my storage, so

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-09 Thread Squeezemenicely
Oh no! Amazon have killed "Music in the cloud" for me. This is really terrible. I had setup my NAS to sync my music files to the cloud - all was great. Now they changed the game, no more unlimited and I would have to pay 180 Dollars for my storage, so obviously I will not renew my plan. What a

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-08 Thread Blisteringblue
d6jg wrote: > Why don't you store your music on the QNAP and have LMS / WHS read it > from there? I agree that a QNAP won't do MusicIP etc but if you had your > music files there then the Cloud Sync is going to be easy. There is some > performance hit by going through the USB port. > > I have

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-08 Thread d6jg
Blisteringblue wrote: > Wow, talk about long winded. I wanted a set and forget style backup for > this, been looking for reasonable cloud for a while. I've 1TB OneDrive > from MS through work, 500GB BT cloud with my broadband but £55 for > unlimited Amazon Cloud gets the nod. > > Just spent 2

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-08 Thread Blisteringblue
Wow, talk about long winded. I wanted a set and forget style backup for this, been looking for reasonable cloud for a while. I've 1TB OneDrive from MS through work, 500GB BT cloud with my broadband but £55 for unlimited Amazon Cloud gets the nod. Just spent 2 days playing with various

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-07 Thread pablolie
I see the appeal for backup, but unless it's automatically mirrored -which I haven't seen in cheaper storage- I don't see the appeal for everyday operations. Local NAS still seems to rule the cost-benefit analysis for me... (unfortunately, I'd love a cloud based cost effective solution, but local

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-01 Thread drmatt
So it seems they restricted everyone by default to prevent impact to browsing experience and general connectivity whilst uploading. They seem to have somewhat overcooked the throttling if it went to less than 10% of your link speed, however.. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk --

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-06-01 Thread mandryka
drmatt wrote: > Ok, so you had a specific problem. What did you change? Are they > artificially limiting upload speed in the client package? > > I had no issues with Amazon drive on upload speed. > > Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk You have to go to settings, turn the throttle to

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-30 Thread drmatt
Ok, so you had a specific problem. What did you change? Are they artificially limiting upload speed in the client package? I had no issues with Amazon drive on upload speed. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-30 Thread mandryka
The reason I was pushing the point is that my internet upload speed is about 17mbps, but using Backblaze, I was getting an upload speed of 1.5mbps. Anyway I just spoke to their support people and they told me make some changes in the settings file and now I have 16mbps. So problem solved. I

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-30 Thread drmatt
Maths to the rescue! 1TB is 800 Mbits. This will take 5.1 days on an 18Mbit/s uplink (typical unlimited fibre package). -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums..

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-30 Thread mandryka
norderney wrote: > Using the Dropbox web site, I logged into my Dropbox account and then > upload all my FLAC files to my Music folder within Dropbox. Quite easy > actually. Takes a long time but only has to be done once. Works best if > you have a fast fibre broadband connection. What sort of

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-30 Thread norderney
Using the Dropbox web site, I logged into my Dropbox account and then upload all my FLAC files to my Music folder within Dropbox. Quite easy actually. Takes a long time but only has to be done once. Works best if you have a fast fibre broadband connection. Main Source: Transporter Amp: Cyrus

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-30 Thread mandryka
norderney wrote: > I use Dropbox for backing up my music database which is about 1Tb / > 60,000 tracks. As a bonus I have installed an app called FLACBox on my > iPhone which allows my to play music stored directly on Dropbox. So I > have access to my complete music library when I'm away from

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-21 Thread norderney
I use Dropbox for backing up my music database which is about 1Tb / 60,000 tracks. As a bonus I have installed an app called FLACBox on my iPhone which allows my to play music stored directly on Dropbox. So I have access to my complete music library when I'm away from home using either 3G or

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-21 Thread atrocity
Testing hubiC at the moment. 25GB free and it works with rclone. Their largest plan is 10TB, which works for me for now, so I just might go for it. rclone developer is hopeful that he can work things out with Amazon.

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-19 Thread drmatt
So this is why I used "dar". Keep a local metadata copy and I can run differential backups against the metadata to upload as a tarball (um, darball) without having to keep the data local too. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-19 Thread atrocity
drmatt wrote: > They don't like the word "unlimited" as much as their marketing would > have you believe, apparently... If I understand the situation correctly (and I'm not sure that I do) rclone's developer had to work with Amazon to get the app approved, but Amazon banned it without warning

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-19 Thread drmatt
They don't like the word "unlimited" as much as their marketing would have you believe, apparently... Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-19 Thread atrocity
bakker_be wrote: > Since posting this, I've uploaded ±1TB of music to Amazon :p And, just like that, Amascum has banned rclone. https://forum.rclone.org/t/rclone-has-been-banned-from-amazon-drive/2314/10 atrocity's

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-18 Thread bakker_be
atrocity wrote: > THANK YOU for this!!! I just set it up yesterday and it seems to be > working fine. Greatly preferable to trying to sync using Amazon's > horrific W*nd*ws client. Since posting this, I've uploaded ±1TB of music to Amazon :p Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-17 Thread atrocity
bakker_be wrote: > Ehm, aren't we confusing *GOOGLE* drive and *AMAZON* drive here? > > Back to Amazon Drive: > 'rclone' (https://rclone.org/) seems to support it, and it has a "check" > function that compares file hashes allowing you to skip files that > calculate as identical. THANK YOU for

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-03 Thread d6jg
I have my data stored on a Qnap with LMS running on either a Pi (piCorePlayer) or an old PC (Vortexbox). The QNAP is mounted either via SMB or NFS. One of the officially available Qnap apps is "Connect to Cloud Drive". I haven't tried it but it supports Amazon Cloud Drive. If it works (and I

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-02 Thread lostboy
I use Crashplan as part of tiered backup strategy, and have done for past five years or so. It's $60 p.a. for unlimited encrypted storage for one PC, so a little cheaper than Amazon with current exchange rates, but backup specific. They will backup anything 'local' to a licensed machine, and

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-02 Thread RonM
CloudAtlas wrote: > I personally believe that using the cloud as a sole backup is very > unwise. As it is not directly under you control, it should be viewed as > ephemeral (or even open source if not encrypted). A multi-layered > approach is far safer e.g. local backup, off-site backup and

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-02 Thread CloudAtlas
SlimChances wrote: > Infinite is a bit of an exaggeration. But I can fit 4 -3 1/2" drives in > my box. Right now it is easy to obtain a 10 TB Hard Drive. How much is > Amazon going to charge for 40 TB of data? Also how long does it take to > download that information if your house catches fire

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread bpa
drmatt wrote: > No sign of an open API (yet) but some developers have had access by the > look of it. https://developer.amazon.com/amazon-drive > > Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk This link lets you download sdk for IO and Android.

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread drmatt
bakker_be wrote: > Ehm, aren't we confusing *GOOGLE* drive and *AMAZON* drive here? > > Back to Amazon Drive: > 'rclone' (https://rclone.org/) seems to support it, and it has a "check" > function that compares file hashes allowing you to skip files that > calculate as identical. No sign of an

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread drmatt
SlimChances wrote: > Infinite is a bit of an exaggeration. But I can fit 4 -3 1/2" drives in > my box. Right now it is easy to obtain a 10 TB Hard Drive. How much is > Amazon going to charge for 40 TB of data? Also how long does it take to > download that information if your house catches fire

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread mandryka
drmatt wrote: > Depends on your broadband upload speed. Unlimited fibre is the only way > this makes sense, that's the only way to get 18-20 Mbit upload. With > that, I put 2TB up in a week and two days. If your upload is 2Mbit it > will take ten times longer... Upload speed is at the moment

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread SlimChances
drmatt wrote: > Larger than infinite? And the price? Fifty five quid a year for > infinite? Personally I have found that a new HDD every three years or so > actually costs more than this. There is a tipping point where if your > storage is small enough then fixed price £55 a year is too much;

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread drmatt
SlimChances wrote: > An external HD in my safety deposit box works for me. It is far cheaper > and much larger storage options Larger than infinite? And the price? Fifty five quid a year for infinite? Personally I have found that a new HDD every three years or so actually costs more than this.

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread Squeezemenicely
I am using Amazon Drive and have about 2 TB music on there, it is great I can use it to stream music on the go using CloudBeats, plus I have an extra Backup of the entire music as an incremental Backup done via my NAS. Yes it takes long to upload at first, but afterwards it is worth it. LMS

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread drmatt
mandryka wrote: > It's not going to work for me., 400 files in 6 hours, to upload the lot > will take about two months. Depends on your broadband upload speed. Unlimited fibre is the only way this makes sense, that's the only way to get 18-20 Mbit upload. With that, I put 2TB up in a week and

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread SlimChances
An external HD in my safety deposit box works for me. It is far cheaper and much larger storage options Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1491339164 @ Wed Apr 5 04:19:41 UTC 2017 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread mandryka
It's not going to work for me., 400 files in 6 hours, to upload the lot will take about two months. mandryka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53967 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread bakker_be
mandryka wrote: > Just fire and theft, that's all. Offsite backups don't seem to work for > me. > > It's done 100 files (out of 105,000) in the past two hours, and it may > not be keeping the structure of the folders, so so far it's a bit > worrying really. Seems a bit slow to me. I don't

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread drmatt
That is why I went with a virtual tape type thing. Stage the backups to large encrypted files and move the encrypted virtual tapes to the cloud. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread mandryka
JohnB wrote: > Is there any reason why you prefer to backup to the cloud rather than > backing up to external HDDs which are under your control? Just fire and theft, that's all. Offsite backups don't seem to work for me. It's done 100 files (out of 105,000) in the past two hours, and it may

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread JohnB
Is there any reason why you prefer to backup to the cloud rather than backing up to external HDDs which are under your control? Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad.

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread mandryka
Amazon have a desktop app which will allow you to synch to a folder on your C drive. It will NOT allow you to synch to a folder on an external hard drive (so no good for me) I tried to upload via the web interface several times but it crashed for my big "downloads" folder. It worked for one or

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread bakker_be
Ehm, aren't we confusing *GOOGLE* drive and *AMAZON* drive here? Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread bpa
Also some examples of using the API. https://github.com/googledrive bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107345

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread drmatt
Awesome, that's new. They didn't publish anything like that when I I started using it. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread bpa
drmatt wrote: > AFAIK there is no API to access Drive directly yet, so nothing going for > automatic updates etc. Does this not work ? https://developers.google.com/drive/v3/web/simple-upload bpa's Profile:

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread drmatt
No, there are no utilities for accessing Drive, I scripted backups to large files using dar on my Linux box then just copied the files to a Windows box to drag and drop in the UI. AFAIK there is no API to access Drive directly yet, so nothing going for automatic updates etc. Sent from my ONEPLUS

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread mandryka
Oh good, thout sounds promising. Is there a backup utility? Something that will check for changes and upload them, things like changes to metadata. mandryka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53967

Re: [slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread drmatt
Took me about a week to upload 2TB to exactly that service using my BT fibre line. Tedious but doable. And next time the incremental backups are trivia to send up to the cloud. Amazon can do media-based ingest to S3, but a) you pay for it and b) it's not Drive. Otherwise find a friend with a

[slim] Large Backups on a Cloud

2017-05-01 Thread mandryka
Hello everyone Amazon are now offering unlimited storage for £55 p.a in the UK, and they accept lossless music files. So the idea of having a cloud backup is more attractive. I have 3TB of music, it's going to take forever to upload it via my phone line -- I doubt it's feasible. Is there a