[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-21 Thread d6jg
Dogberry2 wrote: > Copyright law is a morass of contradictions, inconsistencies, > inequities, and foolishness, to which no one can rightly claim full > understanding. Even so-called specialists in copyright law are often > confused and uncertain about what they can, and cannot, make stand up in

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-21 Thread Dogberry2
Copyright law is a morass of contradictions, inconsistencies, inequities, and foolishness, to which no one can rightly claim full understanding. Even so-called specialists in copyright law are often confused and uncertain about what they can, and cannot, make stand up in court. That's why so many

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-20 Thread drmatt
The (correct) statement was qualified, cites a reference and postscripts the whole thing with a massive winking smiley. I hope most people didn't take it too seriously. Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-19 Thread RonM
drmatt wrote: > Fortunately the context for the statement that preceded it was "here in > the UK".. so in fact it's true. > Actually, the "everyone on this forum" implies reach way beyond the UK reference. It's why I said you need to be more careful making such strong assertions; people read

Re: [slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-19 Thread Michael Herger
No the digital copy of a mp3 file is illegal too. Because it is digital it is the same as the original. It is legal to make an analog copy of the mp3 file. I think this whole discussion is as meaningless as "what's the maximum speed you are allowed to drive?". It depends on your country. Laws

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-19 Thread callesoroe
w3wilkes wrote: > Since mp3 is not an exact copy would it be considered the same as a tape > recorder? No the digital copy of a mp3 file is illegal too. Because it is digital it is the same as the original. It is legal to make an analog copy of the mp3 file. Callesoroe Living room:

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-19 Thread AndyMwt
In opposite to downloading, recording music in the background is not illegal, provided that you will not publish the results. More precisely, you are moving in a grey area. I recommend audials tunebite premium: http://audials.com/en/how_to_record_internet_radios/spotify.html You have to spend

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-19 Thread drmatt
RonM wrote: > You need to be a bit more careful about such assertive, and wrong, > statements. Fortunately the context for the statement that preceded it was "here in the UK".. so in fact it's true. Anyway, the whole area is an international joke. People have been and will continue to format

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-18 Thread RonM
drmatt wrote: > > Format shifting is still explicitly illegal. So everyone on this forum > listening to ripped CDs is committing an offence. [emoji12] > You need to be a bit more careful about such assertive, and wrong, statements. In Canada, format shifting is EXPLICITLY allowed, provided

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-18 Thread w3wilkes
callesoroe wrote: > In Denmark it is illegal to make a digital copy because the quality is > identical. If you use a taperecorder, you will not have a exact copy. > Since mp3 is not an exact copy would it be considered the same as a tape recorder? 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-18 Thread callesoroe
Mnyb wrote: > Is that any legal difference between a software and a good old fashioned > tape recorder ? In Denmark it is illegal to make a digital copy because the quality is identical. If you use a taperecorder, you will not have a exact copy. It is legal to make a copy of your own CD's and

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-17 Thread Mnyb
And why start several treads on this very topic ( never seen the op in any other kind of tread ). Just do whatever but don't tell us . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-16 Thread drmatt
Under fair use it means you are recording the sample (and it should normally be just a sample not an entire track) for parody, criticism, or other legitimate commentary. Fair use provides no protection for arbitrarily recording protected works for indefinite later replays, even if you have no

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-16 Thread bits
Fair use personal recordings are a statutory right in law for many countries. No contract a copyright holder claims you have entered removes or lessens those statutory rights. In fact they are likely breaking the law if they even imply your rights have been reduced. So in countries where it is

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-15 Thread d6jg
The software is legal what you do with it may not be. In U.K. it is legal to make a recording of something you own for personal use. Digitising my vinyl to FLAC is legal but if I sell the vinyl I should delete any copies made. For the record I have kept every vinyl record. *Vortexbox LMS 7.9

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-15 Thread Mnyb
You also have the terms and conditions for the services . Radio migth be just as ok as it was with god old fm and tapedeck. But a service like spotify clearly says no in their terms and conditions you agreed to when signing up. So software that records you computers output may very well be

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-15 Thread drmatt
Mnyb wrote: > Is that any legal difference between a software and a good old fashioned > tape recorder ? Legally no but they have not often bothered to prosecute "lossy" recording methods like tape, historically. They were more concerned about redistribution with the advent of perfect digital

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-15 Thread Mnyb
I would record as flac because cross conversion between different lossy codecs can introduce artifacts and sound bad. Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-15 Thread Mnyb
Is that any legal difference between a software and a good old fashioned tape recorder ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel

Re: [slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-15 Thread Michael Herger
I think it's rather simple: if it was legal, you wouldn't have to ask about it. You'd go download/buy the application to do it from a vast choice of offerings. Quite obviously you can't easily find them, or you wouldn't have to come to this forum. Now if you have a Squeezebox related

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-15 Thread drmatt
Depends which country you are in but broadly speaking recording has always been legal, it's what you record and what you do with it that matters. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than

[slim] Recording-Software: legal or not?

2016-12-15 Thread Schwarzenegger
Hey guys, currently I try to get some clear informations about recording-softwares, with which you are able to record, cut and convert music from platforms like Spotify and Deezer into mp3-files. While there is a big offer in the world wide web, I´m still not sure, if they are legal or not. If