Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-09-15 Thread mvalera
Wow... locking this so it doesn't happen again. This was a rumor, nothing more. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Business Unit slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-09-14 Thread Steven Moore
If Microsoft put a bid in for Logitech I think Logitech should put a counter bid in. The way Vista's going Microsoft might accept it. -- Steven Moore Steven Moore's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-09-12 Thread G-dude
NEVER would I buy a Microsoft product for music..! The awesomeness of the Squeezebox would disappear with the first Microsoft release. PS I have recently bought a Mac and cannot imagine ever going back to MS for playing around with music. I saw a DJ using Microsoft today and just thought

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-09-12 Thread pfarrell
G-dude;339878 Wrote: NEVER would I buy a Microsoft product for music..! Why on earth would you resurrect a thread that has been dead for nine months about a rumour that clearly is not true? Just let it stay dead. -- pfarrell Pat

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread DennyL
Michael Herger;259757 Wrote: If Microsoft take over Logitech I'm gone. What are the althernatives to Squeezebox? Transporter. -- Michael Thank you, Michael, but if the Squeezebox becomes Microsoft, so will the Transporter. From long experience in IT I have an overriding policy:-

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Herger
Thank you, Michael, but if the Squeezebox becomes Microsoft, so will the Transporter. Go out there and get yourself a stock of original Logitech SqueezeBoxen. They will never change the logo. Michael ___ discuss mailing list

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread DennyL
Michael Herger;260049 Wrote: Thank you, Michael, but if the Squeezebox becomes Microsoft, so will the Transporter. Go out there and get yourself a stock of original Logitech SqueezeBoxen. They will never change the logo. Michael Yes, that would be a way forward for a limited time,

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread norderney
DennyL;260056 Wrote: Yes, that would be a way forward for a limited time, and don't update SlimServer, which MS would be bound to f**k up, driving us all towards DRM. Think Zune. I was planning to sell my CD player as I hardly use it since I got a Squeezebox, but I shan't sell it until

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread pippin
egd;260102 Wrote: mp3/flac ogg support can very easily be removed from the firmware, leaving you with ... ...a chance to sue the hell out of 'em for taking away a functionality they sold to you. -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread Marc Sherman
radish wrote: What are they going to do, add support for Zune DRM? Great! Lot's of people have been asking for that - maybe they could do PlaysForSure while they're at it. It's not like they can magically add DRM to mp3/flac/ogg. The nightmare scenarios is that they add Zune/PFS drm

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread Rangdo
DennyL;260091 Wrote: I hope you are right. I agree that one can stay with one's hardware and current version of Slimserver, and I might do that. Microsoft has a record of being dishonest and ruthless in manipulating products to maximise its profits, and I fear that Slimserver, in a future of

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread DennyL
norderney;260073 Wrote: It is true that there are other products in the market doing the same thing as Slim Devices, BUT none of the ones I have seen (including Sonos)have all the features and/or sound quality that Slim Devices offer. I'm sticking with Slim Devices and even if Microsoft

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread radish
egd;260102 Wrote: mp3/flac ogg support can very easily be removed from the firmware, leaving you with ... A firmware upgrade I won't apply? Or one I'll roll back to using the old .bin I have backed up? Besides, I just can't see that happening - I can't think of a single advantage it would

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread Ken
egd;260102 Wrote: mp3/flac ogg support can very easily be removed from the firmware, leaving you with ... A substantially diminished customer base, which means less profit. Paranoia is definitely taking hold here. Ken -- Ken

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread egd
radish;260096 Wrote: What are they going to do, add support for Zune DRM? Great! Lot's of people have been asking for that - maybe they could do PlaysForSure while they're at it. It's not like they can magically add DRM to mp3/flac/ogg. And as for screwing up the server, three letters -

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread norderney
Anyway most (if not all) of the major record companies are abandoning DRM and allowing sites such as iTunes and amazon.com to sell non DRM MP3 files. I am actually more concerned about the fact that very few download sites offer lossless music files for mainstream music. I can not see this

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-18 Thread radish
DennyL;260056 Wrote: Yes, that would be a way forward for a limited time, and don't update SlimServer, which MS would be bound to f**k up, driving us all towards DRM. What are they going to do, add support for Zune DRM? Great! Lot's of people have been asking for that - maybe they could do

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Herger
If Microsoft take over Logitech I'm gone. What are the althernatives to Squeezebox? Transporter. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-17 Thread DennyL
If Microsoft take over Logitech I'm gone. What are the althernatives to Squeezebox? -- DennyL DennyL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8446 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-16 Thread willyhoops
I think after the apple tv presentation last night (discussed here http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42292 ) we can say Microsoft is going to have to lot better than logitech and slimdevices. -- willyhoops

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-16 Thread ToddSTS
crooner;259176 Wrote: Exactly Microsoft killed HDCD. And what a shame since its a terrific format. I think the market was more responsible for killing HDCD along with 'mostly dead' SACD and DVD-Audio. People want their compressed audio online from iTunes, Amazon, wherever. They don't

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-16 Thread matthijskoopmans
ToddSTS;259352 Wrote: I think the market was more responsible for killing HDCD along with 'mostly dead' SACD and DVD-Audio. People want their compressed audio online from iTunes, Amazon, wherever. They don't know/care about the sound quality difference. Online music will kill off the CD

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-15 Thread matthijskoopmans
Folks, What are we discussing here? I have seen no reference in the major media other than the article linked in the beginning of this thread. When Microsoft (or any corporate for that matter) is interested to acquire another company, that does not mean that it actually happens. As it is with

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-15 Thread cybersnoop
seanadams;258490 Wrote: No, all the server code and included libraries are GPL or GPL-compatible. A few of the other files that it comes with are not - those are the graphics and the firmware binaries that are served up to SB or browser clients. It is trivial to remove/replace those and

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-15 Thread crooner
Phil Leigh;256912 Wrote: My only concern with this is what happened when MS bought Pacific Microsonics...anyone seen an HDCD recently? Exactly Microsoft killed HDCD. And what a shame since its a terrific format. -- crooner Customized dual chassis Super Squeezebox EAD DSP-7000 Series

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread funkstar
bigfool1956;258366 Wrote: Oxymoron... Microsoft Works It's an oldie, but a goody :) -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread willyhoops
Yes sorry zune not zen of course. the attraction is that slimdevices are making home media servers not competing DAPs of course. if msft could own the home media server market they might be able to win in DAPs. currently the home market mostly works on ipods connected into a dock attached to

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread servies
willyhoops;258313 Wrote: for squeezebox or logitec it really makes sense becuase the downside of logitec and slimsever is that good gui software is really really hard to do well, as the old fashioned slimserver perl open source interface shows. if microsoft buy it then we will could see a

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread bigfool1956
willyhoops;258329 Wrote: microsoft software skills Oxymoron... -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread ikruspan
ooh shit :( i think that this is the end of great FLAC support. -- ikruspan ikruspan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1772 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42018

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting willyhoops ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Yes sorry zune not zen of course. the attraction is that slimdevices are making home media servers not competing DAPs of course. if msft could own the home media server market they might be able to win in DAPs. currently the home market mostly

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread bigfool1956
Apple have a media streamer - it's called Apple TV, I have one and it's surprisingly good if you don't use the analogue outs. Pain in the bum for watching your own videos though... -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread mflint
I think we're getting a little to worked up about nothing here. We should think ourselves lucky that: 1. the hardware and firmware of the SB3 is so mature and reliable 2. SqueezeCenter is GPL We are lucky that SlimDevices originally decided to put most of the functionality, the stuff we all

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread Marc Sherman
mflint wrote: If Microslop were to buy Logitech, then so be it. Yes, we might lose some of the cool-factor, but so what? The source is open, so someone will fork it. And when it forks, the only thing lost is incremental improvements to firmware. Which ain't that much of a loss, considering

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread erland
Marc Sherman;258467 Wrote: Actually, a surprising amount of the slimserver code is not, in fact, open source. A fork would have to replace all of the HTML and graphic content in the default skin Are you saying that SlimServer itself contains code/libraries that aren't freely distributable ?

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread seanadams
erland;258485 Wrote: Are you saying that SlimServer itself contains code/libraries that aren't freely distributable ? No, all the server code and included libraries are GPL or GPL-compatible. A few of the other files that it comes with are not - those are the graphics and the firmware

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread Marc Sherman
seanadams wrote: No, all the server code and included libraries are GPL or GPL-compatible. A few of the other files that it comes with are not - those are the graphics and the firmware binaries that are served up to SB or browser clients. It is trivial to remove/replace those and still have

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread tyler_durden
I wonder when I'll have to get an antivirus plug-in for the SB firmware... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-14 Thread bordo
I'm sure the reliability of MS squeezebox software might not be good as you are used to, but don't worry, I'm sure microsoft will add CTRL-ALT-DEL buttons to the controls. -- bordo bordo's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-13 Thread EnochLight
kdf;257836 Wrote: On 12-Jan-08, at 9:18 PM, EnochLight wrote: Read an article on Dailytech that it could be in the works... or not. I know Logitech/Slim won't be able to comment much, but what do you guys think about such an event? it's old news, rumour, and done to death on

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-11 Thread andyg
I renamed this thread so people are more likely to see it and not post duplicate threads. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-11 Thread iwp
I don't think I've yet seen a hi-fi digital audio receiver that integrates nicely with any of the online stores. I suppose Apple Airport does, but IIRC you need to control that from a Mac rather than with a remote, so it's rubbish for living room use. A SqueezuneBox would actually be a fairly

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-11 Thread ceejay
OK, here's another view: http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2008/01/11/microsofts-next-bet-logitech.aspx Basically, Motley Fool think that such a deal wouldn't get past the competition authorities... Unfortunately, a glance at the best-sellers on Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN) or at your local

Re: [slim] Rumor: Microsoft to buy Logitech?!

2008-01-11 Thread stormy
Oh no! Please! :( ceejay;257285 Wrote: OK, here's another view: http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2008/01/11/microsofts-next-bet-logitech.aspx Basically, Motley Fool think that such a deal wouldn't get past the competition authorities... Unfortunately, a glance at the best-sellers on