Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

On Jan 5, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Peter wrote: How does the controller communicate with the SBR when the network connection is not yet up? Over wifi or infrared? Over the wireless. When the Squeezebox Receiver is first powered up (or after pressing and holding the button on the front to put it

[slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

See the news on gizmodo http://gizmodo.com/341045/logitech-makes-grab-at-sonos-audience-with-squeezebox-duet Edit: I want one.. but how does it sounds? Is the DAC etc. the same as the SB3? -- smcint smcint's Profile:

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

I think it's a SB3 without the VFD so it should be the same dac (if logitech didn't decide to cut off price in this field, but i don't think so). I wonder if it will be available at CES, i'll be glad to get back with one in my suitcase :) -- vrobin

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the new Squeezebox looks quite plain The illustration looks more like a CAD rendering. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread:

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

smcint wrote: See the news on gizmodo http://gizmodo.com/341045/logitech-makes-grab-at-sonos-audience-with-squeezebox-duet Edit: I want one.. but how does it sounds? Is the DAC etc. the same as the SB3? Will the hand controller run existing Squeezeboxes? And if so, will it be available

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

mkozlows wrote: I dunno. Maybe if I decide to build a good bedside headphone system it'd be useful, but otherwise it's actually less useful than an SB2/3. I wonder if Logitech is going to keep the current model around? I suspect that the fact that they're calling it Duet and not 4 is

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

I believe so, yes. -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805

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There are a few more pictures here: http://www.softwareheadlines.com/modules/planet/view.article.php/248311 -- Richie Richie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=88 View this thread:

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So, it's just like my SB2, except that I can't look at the screen to see what's playing and can't use the regular universal remote with it? I dunno. Maybe if I decide to build a good bedside headphone system it'd be useful, but otherwise it's actually less useful than an SB2/3. I wonder if

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

Logitech® Squeezebox#8482; Duet Network Music Player Listen to the music you love in any room in your home *Shipping: January 2008* Price: $399.99 (Controller and Receiver)1 Available at: www.logitech.com Mmmm, some people here seem to think that the Jive remote isn't ready for prime time

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

Will the hand controller run existing Squeezeboxes? The Controller will control any player connected to SqueezeCenter, be it hard- or software. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

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Bill Burns;254650 Wrote: Will the hand controller run existing Squeezeboxes? And if so, will it be available separately? Yes, I have been beta testing it for a while now. The remote should work with all squeezeboxes back to the slimp3 afaik. Although I only have SB2 and newer to test

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

amcluesent wrote: The illustration looks more like a CAD rendering. There are lots of photos of the controller on the Jive forum. Making a SB without a display is not much of a challenge. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing

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Mmmm, some people here seem to think that the Jive remote isn't ready for prime time yet. Apple has shown that software can be tweaked and improved after release. This is the beauty of the whole Squeeze world, open source server. The Jive remote's code is open source, written in Lua

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Richie;254641 Wrote: There are a few more pictures here: http://www.softwareheadlines.com/modules/planet/view.article.php/248311and here: http://www.ubergizmo.com/zoom.php?dir=2008/1/logitech-squeezebox-duet/ -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 15861 - Windows

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Michael Herger;254670 Wrote: Will the hand controller run existing Squeezeboxes? The Controller will control any player connected to SqueezeCenter, be it hard- or software. Michael Can the remote be bought separately? (already have the Transporter) -- PSSO

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I'd guess controllers separately are going to be $150-$200 if they sell them. Love to know if the Duet station is just an SB3 without the display and a new case. Is that a bona fide power switch on the front? Interesting. -- mrfantasy --Mike

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

According to this site http://www.hifi.nl/nieuws/39269/Logitech_Squeezebox_Duet_Network_System.html The Logitech Squeezebox duet network music system are according to the expectations in the middle of January available for a shop recommended retail price of 399.99 euro. Additional recipients

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

The controller on its own is flipping expensive. The duet deal seems a much better bet, assuming you want another SB. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

The DAC in the Duet/Squeezebox Receiver differs from the SB2/3. From the product page: High fidelity Wolfson® 24-bit DAC -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

As you surmised, the Squeezebox Controller (the remote formerly known as Jive) will list for $299US, and the Squeezebox Receiver (formerly known as Ray) will be $149. The bundle of the two is called Squeezebox Duet and will list for $399US. For the time being, you'll need to have at least one

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_controller.html http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_duet.html http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_receiver.html So USD299 it is... -- marlowe marlowe's Profile:

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

Basically, for the price of a Sonos remote, you get the whole system. Additional audio interfaces are just $150, as opposed to $349 for the Sonos part. $299 for remote is probably fair, but takes it out of the run out and buy it as soon as it's available category to maybe wait and see for me.

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

Anyone know if this is a step up, down, or more of a lateral move? On Jan 5, 2008 6:22 PM, Nostromo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The DAC in the Duet/Squeezebox Receiver differs from the SB2/3. From the product page: High fidelity Wolfson(R) 24-bit DAC -- Nostromo

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mrfantasy;254677 Wrote: I'd guess controllers separately are going to be $150-$200 if they sell them. Love to know if the Duet station is just an SB3 without the display and a new case. Is that a bona fide power switch on the front? Interesting. And Michael Valera, over on

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

Of course the bummer for us QNAP users, and other NASes, is that SS7 is required. So I hope suitable upgrade modules will be appearing soon (Progressive please). -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more

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And I'd like to further ask, in general, what are the significant audio differences between the new units and the SB3? On Jan 5, 2008 7:03 PM, Ali-M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why go with the Wolfson DAC instead of the Burr-Brown? -- Ali-M

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For the price of Sonos cheapest one room setup, you can get a Squeezebox Duet and two additional Receivers with $50 left over. Three rooms v.s. one... I'd say that's fair! ;P Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

So... This product looks good! I do wish they'd make another combo available (at less than the sum of the individual prices): { SB3 + new controller } for maybe... $500? At $299, the controller does seem a little expensive compared to, say, an N800, but I'd probably want one... -- doundounba

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

From reading the web page, I've noticed the following audio differences... - As previously mentioned, SB3 Burr-Brown DAC vs Duet Wolfson DAC - The SB3 claims SNR over 100dB, the Duet claims SNR over 90dB - The SB3 claims THD less than -93.5dB, the Duet claims THD less than -88dB - Duet lacks the

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

No headphone output is listed on the spec page, so I'm guessing there is not one. On Jan 5, 2008 7:29 PM, erland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the SqueezeBox Controller have a working headphone output ? What does Digital passthrough to S/PDIF for DTS mean on the SqueezeBox Controller ? It

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

Why go with the Wolfson DAC instead of the Burr-Brown? -- Ali-M Ali-M's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805

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erland;254711 Wrote: What does Digital passthrough to S/PDIF for DTS mean on the SqueezeBox Controller ? It says it support this in the product specification on: http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_controller.html oops... lemme get rid of that. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online

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The controller page also talks about listening to music without your PC on. Will the controller be able to control the receiver on SqueezeNetwork even without SC running? On Jan 5, 2008 7:44 PM, mvalera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: erland;254711 Wrote: What does Digital passthrough to S/PDIF

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

Also noticed that the Duet has 32 Mb of RAM, versus 64 Mb on the SB3. Is this the audio buffer? If so, does anyone know how this compares with the SB1? I remember dropout issues were more common with that, and people often claimed the larger SB3 buffer alleviated this. Just wondering how the

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

Does the SqueezeBox Controller have a working headphone output ? What does Digital passthrough to S/PDIF for DTS mean on the SqueezeBox Controller ? It says it support this in the product specification on: http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_controller.html -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage'

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mvalera wrote: For the price of Sonos cheapest one room setup, you can get a Squeezebox Duet and two additional Receivers with $50 left over. Three rooms v.s. one... I'd say that's fair! ;P Yeah, that's a nice option. But then after that first buy you'd end up wanting two extra

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

smcint wrote: See the news on gizmodo http://gizmodo.com/341045/logitech-makes-grab-at-sonos-audience-with-squeezebox-duet Edit: I want one.. but how does it sounds? Is the DAC etc. the same as the SB3? Cool, I got one of my wishes/predictions, the 'blind' SB, now I'm still waiting for

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

mvalera wrote: One note about the SB Receiver, is that it requires the Controller for network setup. You can't just buy one on it's own. It's for adding extra rooms. Hi Michael, How does the controller communicate with the SBR when the network connection is not yet up? Over wifi or infrared?

Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here

On Jan 5, 2008, at 5:33 PM, Mitch Harding wrote: Also noticed that the Duet has 32 Mb of RAM, versus 64 Mb on the SB3. The Squeezebox Receiver has 64 megabits (aka 8 megabytes) of SDRAM, the same as SB3. The Squeezebox Controller has 64 megabytes of SDRAM.