In order to actually break into the mass market with the squeezebox
Logitech would have to dumb it down to the point where any and all
appeal to the Enthusiast would be lost, I happen to work for Tech
Support in a IT Company, you'd be surprised at the level of technical
knowledge the Mass market
erland;636300 Wrote:
The result would be similar to the Squeezebox Touch with a local hard
drive. In the mass market it got to be easy, plug in the device and
connect the external USB drive with music and start playing, no
installation or configuration on a computer what so ever. It would of
I think the Touch with TinySC is already mass market compatible.
Give it more processing power, so that it wouldn't upset people who try
it.
Give it access to Samba Network Shares and it would feel much more like
Sonos, that does not force people to setup a dedicated server, but
already have a
Some thoughts from me...
Slim Devices was very much an advanced niche product bought by a
company that generally deals in mass market peripherals, it seems to me
that the old slim devices team/products have become lost in the big
logitech pool, treading water, all marketing has been removed, the
Heuer;635735 Wrote:
To be fair this is a contracting market especially with the direction
Apple have mapped out for us with iCloud.
Apple can take their iCloud and ram it up their iArse.
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd
Phil Leigh;636202 Wrote:
Apple can take their iCloud and ram it up their iArse.
Just because it's Apple or do you have some other reason ?
What about a LogitechCloud ?
Or maybe SlimCloud :-)
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erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many
erland;636219 Wrote:
Just because it's Apple or do you have some other reason ?
What about a LogitechCloud ?
Or maybe SlimCloud :-)
No, just because it's a cloud and thus out of my control...
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what
I,m inclined to think the iCloud came from the iAr*** not the otherway
around :)
But cloud anything will eventually be zanitized disneyfied and
contentcontrolled and out of your hands, it may not be soo now but it's
only a matter of time..
Most are even today happy about renting thier musik
Like any mass-vs-hobbist product there's not going to be one generic
product that covers every need. Just like integrated cameras in
smartphones aren't about to kill the high end camera market, integrated
player software or simplistic products are not going to end the niche
the SB products play
pablolie;636295 Wrote:
Like any mass-vs-hobbist product there's not going to be one generic
product that covers every need. Just like integrated cameras in
smartphones aren't about to kill the high end camera market, integrated
player software or simplistic products are not going to end the
Logitech need to sell products in volume - it is the way their business
operates. They have tried to move the Squeeezebox away from the
enthusiast community with their new products and have found the current
software meets the needs of 99% of owners. In which case why should they
bother with
I agree with the above two comments. Logitech (and most companies like
logitech) are mass market companies and must focus on volume and the
average consumer. This said, it is pretty amazing what we get in the
TOUCH package in terms of out-of-the-box performance for a very CHEAP
priceand this
My only hope is that when Logitech discontinues the line of WiFi Players
that they leave us with a decent version of the software.
Right now the software is a mess. Too few developers, and as far as I
can tell, no testers other than the user community. I'm surprised they
don't just release it
First, they've already left us with several decent versions of the
software. If you're worried, go to downloads.slimdevices.com now and
download all the versions you may ever want. And go over to
update.slimdevices.com to pick up all the firmware as well.
Second, the server is already open
Well I wouldn't bother downloading 7.5.3 because it has a nasty bug that
causes the server to hang. So much for QA.
The problem is I see Logitech as reducing it's WiFi audio resources not
growing or even maintaining them. I think they need to take a step back
and cleanup the code base before
To be fair this is a contracting market especially with the direction
Apple have mapped out for us with iCloud. Smart phones can do most of
what the various Squeeze products can do so where is the demand? When I
show people my SB system they are hugely underwhelmed, yet three years
ago they were
It's funny, everyone is in love with their smartphone, but the reality
is it's not a great music player. Logitech has a niche market and they
really need to focus on it.
Radio - Do people use smartphones as alarms? I would much rather spend
$100 on the Radio, than $20 for a crappy clock radio.
steve781;635728 Wrote:
I knew there was open access to the code (I've used Subversion to
download and modify the alarm code for SqueezeOS), but I didn't know we
could check-in our changes to the code base.
You can't commit unless Logitech have given you write access, it's
mostly Logitech
I'm torn here. There's so many ways to get your music from anywhere to
anywhere, unlike when I purchased my (still-running) SB2 nearly six
years ago, when it was one of the few options. There's still a lot of
players and for most users the simplest solution will win. That's
probably AirPlay if
Heuer;635735 Wrote:
To be fair this is a contracting market especially with the direction
Apple have mapped out for us with iCloud.
Apple hasn't mapped anything out for *me* -- nor will they.
I would love for the market to contract so that a small player (like
Slim Devices) can make and
bwaldron;635809 Wrote:
Apple hasn't mapped anything out for *me* -- nor will they.
I would love for the market to contract so that a smart small player
(like Slim Devices) can once again make and market excellent products
(at a decent if not mass market price), for a smaller audience of
garym;635818 Wrote:
The mass market does have a way of dummying things down (before anyone
yells at me, ..I have a transporter, but I do love my TOUCHes (and
radios, booms)). Years ago, Lotus123 was much more sophisticated than
MS Excel, but the corporate offices all moved to Excel. Harvard
Goodsounds;635820 Wrote:
I agree, but I'm not sure how that sentiment applies in this space. Are
you predicting the Apple approach will win for that reason? I don't
think so, there's no need for a standard, actual or de facto, as with
desktop software. I also find there's enough anti-Apple
garym;635821 Wrote:
just rambling thoughts mostly related to the notion of having a smaller
market of more devoted users.
It's hard, maybe impossible, to continue in existence with a shrinking
market of devoted users but a mass market price. As between a small
group of fanatical and
Sean stayed on for a year or two after the buyout, so it's only been
about three years. Even then, I doubt he wants back in to this game.
;)
I think the future video support for SBS is for the underwhelming Revue
box.
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toby10
w3wilkes;635363 Wrote:
Come on, in October it will be 5 years since Logitech bought Slim. I
doubt you could have a infinite non-compete clause that would hold up
in any court. And has Logitech really taken the Slim Device line up
anywhere beyond where Slim was when Logitech acquired it?
I
w3wilkes;635363 Wrote:
And has Logitech really taken the Slim Device line up anywhere beyond
where Slim was when Logitech acquired it?
Well, for starters they are Fat Devices now, no longer slim clients in
the SliMP3/SB/SB2/SB3/TP vein by a longshot. I would also say that the
product line is
bluegaspode;635276 Wrote:
?..server seems to stream video to ??? in the future?They're looking for an
icon for the LMS (Logitech Media Server) branch
which will be a full fledged DLNA server.
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gharris999
bluegaspode;635276 Wrote:
Dean is still alive !
No small miracle if you recall the very scary sounding basement
cleaning project he was going to embark upon after leaving SD/Logi
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aubuti
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w3wilkes;635363 Wrote:
Come on, in October it will be 5 years since Logitech bought Slim. I
doubt you could have a infinite non-compete clause that would hold up
in any court. And has Logitech really taken the Slim Device line up
anywhere beyond where Slim was when Logitech acquired it?
Now
Dean is still alive !
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9637#c16
Guess we just need to post some comments in old bug-reports he is still
watching :)
And a mysterious comment from Ben as well afterwards. Times for
speculation what this new icon mockup is all about for a prio 1
w3wilkes;633388 Wrote:
Also if the new company were established in the state of California
Logitech would find it very difficult to enforce a non-compete clause
of any type.
Nah, it's not so simplistic. More relevant is where the company is
conducting business and where the employee has
Come on, in October it will be 5 years since Logitech bought Slim. I
doubt you could have a infinite non-compete clause that would hold up
in any court. And has Logitech really taken the Slim Device line up
anywhere beyond where Slim was when Logitech acquired it?
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w3wilkes
2 Duets - 1 for
Agree Logitech has done SFA with Squeezebox. As a brand for Joe Public
it is virtually irrelevant. Ask the same person about networked music
they'll probably say Apple first then Sonos
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Paul_B
Paul
Squeeze Server
I think more accurately if you ask Joe Public about networked music
you'll mostly be met with a blank stare. That might change as Apple's
AirPlay gains to traction, but the average human being doesn't even
know such a thing exists.
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andynormancx
Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes,
andynormancx;633606 Wrote:
I think more accurately if you ask Joe Public about networked music
you'll mostly be met with a blank stare. That might change as Apple's
AirPlay gains to traction, but the average human being doesn't even
know such a thing exists.
Sure they do; however, they are
bwaldron;633623 Wrote:
Sure they do; however, they are thinking more in terms of WAN (cloud)
than LAN terms.
Yeah, I was taking network music in the context we were talking to
primarily mean playing back your own music on your LAN.
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andynormancx
Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes,
This forum has 34,253 members, what would the cost be per member if we
start a company that we all could be shareholders in and hire Sean and
Dean...
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Mnyb
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621
Mnyb;63 Wrote:
This forum has 34,253 members, what would the cost be per member if we
start a company that we all could be shareholders in and hire Sean and
Dean...
Gets my vote (and money) :-)
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't
You can count on my dollar too
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jeremy
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Anyone want to speculate on the length of the non-compete clause that
was included in the SlimDevices-LogiTech purchase agreement? I'd love
to see this happen, but I imagine we'll be a bunch of guys turning blue
before it does.
--
gharris999
I would bet that any non-compete clause would have been time bound with
a duration of no more than a year or two. Also if the new company
were established in the state of California Logitech would find it very
difficult to enforce a non-compete clause of any type. California, under
most
Hey guys - my Squeezebox misses you and wants you back.
I see that Logitech International SA USA (NASDAQ:LOGI) stock is down
41% in the last 6 months
(http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3ALOGI) so it may be a good
time for you to buy back in and take this sadly neglected division back
off
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