Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
swayzak;407812 Wrote: Worryingly I rather agree with you. So I'm making hay with MP3Tunes whilst it's sun shines (works very well for me at the moment) ... ;) Actually maybe Logitech should take over MP3Tunes ... the perfect solution ? -- swayzak swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
swayzak;407976 Wrote: Actually maybe Logitech should take over MP3Tunes ... the perfect solution ? I'd rather they look into MusicIP, since that's the real value-add for me. Actually I thought about this very issue, before I jumped in all the way to the Squeeze universe. I really wanted it to work with UPNP, but eventually moved over to all Squeeze devices and I haven't looked back. I was less concerned about it in the Slimserver 6.x days since you didn't need a squeezecenter login just to run it like you do now, and most my devices are dependent on the 7.2 or newer. Has anyone run Squeezecenter on a machine that has no public net access for a while? -- sander sander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
sander;408112 Wrote: I was less concerned about it in the Slimserver 6.x days since you didn't need a squeezecenter login just to run it like you do now, and most my devices are dependent on the 7.2 or newer. I assume you mean SqueezeNetwork, and no you don't need a SN login to run SC. It's only needed for services (such as Pandora, Rhapsody, etc) which are provided by SN. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
My main concern is that I'd be able to continue to use the hardware and software to access my local files, internet radio and last.fm services.. As things stand at the moment that would appear possible even if Logitec went tits up. SqueezeNetwork means very little to me if it didn't I be more worried MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
sander;408112 Wrote: Has anyone run Squeezecenter on a machine that has no public net access for a while? Yes. I have a Ubuntu Server that runs SC 7.3.2 that only feeds my Transporter. There is no router, no Cable Modem, no Wifi, just a CAT5 cable from the Ethernet port on the Server to the Transporter. It is used in my main system only. I help out with the Beta SC Software Testing and run my other Squeezeboxes off my SC 7.4.x Beta Windows XP box which is part of my WiFi Network. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1 Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2 House Portable: SB3, Audioengine A5 Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Expedition: SB3, ToughBook iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
radish;408116 Wrote: I assume you mean SqueezeNetwork, and no you don't need a SN login to run SC. It's only needed for services (such as Pandora, Rhapsody, etc) which are provided by SN. SN is required for use of Live365, ShoutCast, and RadioIO from the SC7 menus as well. Though I suppose those are a form of services also. RadioIO is available via SC7 menus without a SN account but only via Music Internet Only RadioIO, however these are all only 64k feeds. The SC7 RadioIO menu item itself (SN required) is all the 128k feeds. All ShoutCast and 128k RadioIO feeds will work fine if you Cut Paste the URL's from an outside source, you just can't access them from the main SC7 menu structure without a SN account. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
Hi I never really considered this whilst accumulating my Duet 2 Booms. But what would happen if Logitech / Squeezebox went bust disappeared ? Would we be left with bits of silent hi-tech furniture ? I guess SC would still work so you could still access music this way - but if SN ceased to exist then PCless music would go as well wouldn't it ? Something to be said for a good old fashioned hifi ... -- swayzak swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
Well, there are plenty of radio stations out there. You can access them directly over the net. I got my Squeezebox, Duet etc to allow me to store my CDs etc on hard disk, so that I could access play them back via my home network. Squeezenetwork did not come into it. Keep smiling, The Squeezebox does the business. -- kesey kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
How much does SqueezeCentre rely upon SqueezeNetwork to function? Is it only the 'Music Services' ? -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.4 - 25592 3 x wireless SB3 + a Duet bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
kesey;407666 Wrote: Well, there are plenty of radio stations out there. You can access them directly over the net. Even if SN disappeared ? I use MP3Locker for my music collection so that I don't have to turn the PC on at all use SN for everything. If SN went, then the only way to access radio stations would be via SC wouldn't it ? -- swayzak swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
All SB players need to be connected to some server. This can either be your local SqueezeCenter or SqueezeNetwork (which is a customized version of SC, more or less). If SN ceased to exist you would have to run SC locally. SC is open source so development would still be possible. The SB firmware however isn't open. Unless Logitech would release the source or someone reverse-engineered the firmware we would be stuck with whatever is available at the time. -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
slimpy;407678 Wrote: All SB players need to be connected to some server. This can either be your local SqueezeCenter or SqueezeNetwork (which is a customized version of SC, more or less). If SN ceased to exist you would have to run SC locally. SC is open source so development would still be possible. The SB firmware however isn't open. Unless Logitech would release the source or someone reverse-engineered the firmware we would be stuck with whatever is available at the time. -s. OK So simply: Logitech/SB development present = SN or SC Logitech/SB development gone = SC only (=local PC / server required) -- swayzak swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
swayzak;407671 Wrote: Even if SN disappeared ? I use MP3Locker for my music collection so that I don't have to turn the PC on at all use SN for everything. If SN went, then the only way to access radio stations would be via SC wouldn't it ? If you remove your SN login info from SC you still have access to much of the content in your Internet Radio menu. What I don't know is if these still go out to SN anonymously or if they are direct streams. Obviously, without a subscription management tool like on SN, anything requiring unique login info will not work on SC. But you can Cut Paste any standard station URL from any outside source into your SC Favorites, assuming the stream is in a native SB player format. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
Before you whip yourself and others into a frenzy, check out the information that shows that this proposition is nonsense. At least, for now. Logitech is a public company and its results are released quarterly. For the 9 months ending December 2008, income after tax was $142 million. Sales and income were down for the quarter compared to the year before, but that's true of most companies. Shareholders equity exceeds $1 billion. Sure, it's possible for any company to have future writeoffs, restructurings, downturns in the business, etc to erode equity. I'd guess that many other companies would love to be in the relatively strong financial position that Logitech has right now. Also in this context, it is likely fair to assume that the Streaming Media unit is a very small part of the total entity. Probably even immaterial from an operating results perspective. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
swayzak wrote: Hi I never really considered this whilst accumulating my Duet 2 Booms. But what would happen if Logitech / Squeezebox went bust disappeared ? Would we be left with bits of silent hi-tech furniture ? I guess SC would still work so you could still access music this way - but if SN ceased to exist then PCless music would go as well wouldn't it ? Something to be said for a good old fashioned hifi ... I *never* use SN, so there seems to be a place for SC-only SB's doesn't there? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
Goodsounds;407794 Wrote: Also in this context, it is likely fair to assume that the Streaming Media unit is a very small part of the total entity. Probably even immaterial from an operating results perspective. As bigger as easier to get rid of uneconomic parts. But one part of my decision for the Squeezebox was because it uses open source software which is running on a local system. Loss of services would be painful but I guess we would still have many possibilities open due to the the great support of the community. -- jo-wie SB Classic, SC 7.3.3 auf GigaByte STA/C mit VIA C7 1GHz, 1GB RAM, 250 GB 2,5 HD, Ubuntu Desktop 8.04 jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
peter;407800 Wrote: swayzak wrote: Hi I never really considered this whilst accumulating my Duet 2 Booms. But what would happen if Logitech / Squeezebox went bust disappeared ? Would we be left with bits of silent hi-tech furniture ? I guess SC would still work so you could still access music this way - but if SN ceased to exist then PCless music would go as well wouldn't it ? Something to be said for a good old fashioned hifi ... I *never* use SN, so there seems to be a place for SC-only SB's doesn't there? Regards, Peter Yes - as I said, you could obviously still use these devices on your local network via SC. But I'm the opposite - I've managed to go completely SN so that I can just come in from work, put my network players on kick my shoes off. No need for me to put my PC on ;=) I would miss this - it's what makes the Squeezebox so revolutionary for me. -- swayzak swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
swayzak;407671 Wrote: Even if SN disappeared ? I use MP3Locker for my music collection so that I don't have to turn the PC on at all use SN for everything. If SN went, then the only way to access radio stations would be via SC wouldn't it ? From my experiences with the two companies -- very limited with MP3Tunes and fairly extensive with SD/Logitech -- I'd be much more concerned about MP3Tunes going belly up than Logitech -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
aubuti;407809 Wrote: From my experiences with the two companies -- very limited with MP3Tunes and fairly extensive with SD/Logitech -- I'd be much more concerned about MP3Tunes going belly up than Logitech Worryingly I rather agree with you. So I'm making hay with MP3Tunes whilst it's sun shines (works very well for me at the moment) ... ;) -- swayzak swayzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16575 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What happens if Logitech go tits up ?
swayzak wrote: peter;407800 Wrote: swayzak wrote: Hi I never really considered this whilst accumulating my Duet 2 Booms. But what would happen if Logitech / Squeezebox went bust disappeared ? Would we be left with bits of silent hi-tech furniture ? I guess SC would still work so you could still access music this way - but if SN ceased to exist then PCless music would go as well wouldn't it ? Something to be said for a good old fashioned hifi ... I *never* use SN, so there seems to be a place for SC-only SB's doesn't there? Regards, Peter Yes - as I said, you could obviously still use these devices on your local network via SC. But I'm the opposite - I've managed to go completely SN so that I can just come in from work, put my network players on kick my shoes off. No need for me to put my PC on ;=) No need for me to turn my server off. I would miss this - it's what makes the Squeezebox so revolutionary for me. The revolution is in always-on services. You prefer to use someone else's, I'd rather use my own. I've had my own Linux server running for about 15 years now. Must've killed a few penguins ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
