I've used powerline with success as well. The ethernet has always been
good, but honestly the wireless on these things has always been the
achilles heel of Squeezebox - no pun intended in your case!
3x Squeezebox Touch
2x Squeezebox Radios
1x Squeezebox Classic
Server: Logitech Media Server
Osamede wrote:
> The problem may not be that you changed the channel but the
> interference.
>
> In my case I further found that one of my neighbours has a router that
> is set to auto-hop channels and two others are using channel bonding in
> 2.4 Ghz. Together this seems to create problems
The problem may not be that you changed the channel but the
interference.
In my case I further found that one of my neighbours has a router that
is set to auto-hop channels and two others are using channel bonding in
2.4 Ghz. Together this seems to create problems that the Squeezebox wifi
setup
I see to be having a similar problem. I have been having some WiFi
problems and found out that there are a lot of APs above channel 6 in
the neighbourhood. So I switched my AP to channel 1. Since then my
Squeezebox Classic refuses to connect. I have tried different settings
for security, other
Turn off B mode if possible G and N is all you need unless you have some
incredible old stuff
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel
The wireless interference from neighbour sounds the most plausible
explanation. Will look into that with the wireless diagnostics. Still
its a shame the squeezeboxes are so jumpy on wireless. I've not had
headaches from any of my wireless gear otherwise. Anyway will look at
the wireless
epoch1970 wrote:
> XpressTM Technology is some Broadcom secret sauce for frame bursting it
> seems. Perhaps the SB players don't like that? This is non-standard, for
> sure.
> Also, is Tx power (80%) set to its default level? If you've set it, have
> you checked it really makes a difference in
Osamede wrote:
> It has been set at 2.4Ghz only, mixed BGN, AES, WPA2.
>
> This is the rest of settings here:
> https://imgur.com/KTat7qx
XpressTM Technology is some Broadcom secret sauce for frame bursting it
seems. Perhaps the SB players don't like that? This is non-standard, for
sure.
Ok so now I've read your story from the start.
It looks like a wireless interference issue because players drop all at
the same time, on any of the 2 APs. And it seems that the connection can
get bad enough for DHCP leases to fail to go through sometimes.
The 2nd AP doesn't seem to help, and it
Could be "client isolation", a rather common default setting.
(But frankly it could be many things incl. password/ssid/crypto
change...)
4 SB 3 iPeng (iPhone + iPad) Squeezebox Server 7.9 (linux) with
plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster
by Gwendesign
epoch1970 wrote:
> Could be "client isolation", a rather common default setting.
> (But frankly it could be many things incl. password/ssid/crypto
> change...)
I dont have client islolation and all the Plex clients in the house have
no problem seeing the server, via both wireless APs.
Osamede wrote:
> Ok, so this gets even weirder. I applied the OBSS disable on the
> 2.4ghz-only AP on the router/modem and rebooted it and the squeezeboxes.
> They still wont connect to that AP. So basically that didnt solve it
>
> But meanwhile now all of a sudden, the squeezeboxes will
These problems preceed the existence of powerline in the house. I
actually bought the powerline because at first I though some of the
squeezebox problem was due to a weak signal strength, as my main
router/modem is in the basement. And that allowed me to deploy the main
unit as 2.4 ghz only.
Osamede wrote:
> Based on your comments, I have now also disabled OBSS. But will that
> reduce my wifi speed for other clients? I have mostly AC clients and a
> couple of N. The squeezebox are the only G clients I own.
I *believe* OBSS allows/disallows using a channel frequency that might
be
Ok, so this gets even weirder. I applied the OBSS disable on the
2.4ghz-only AP on the router/modem and rebooted it and the squeezeboxes.
They still wont connect to that AP. So basically that didnt solve it
But meanwhile now all of a sudden, the squeezeboxes will connect to the
2.4 + 5 AC
Osamede wrote:
> These problems preceed the existence of powerline in the house. I
> actually bought the powerline because at first I though some of the
> squeezebox problem was due to a weak signal strength, as my main
> router/modem is in the basement. And that allowed me to deploy the main
>
Mhh. There is little doc on the Zyxel p8702n available in a language
that I speak... But I think this device is dual band, dual radio,
a/b/g/n.
Since the squeezeboxes were born in the wifi g era, I would make sure
the router doesn't use funky 2.4GHz wifi-N options. Channel width should
be set to
Thanks for the reply. I have always had 20Mhz-only selected and never 40
Mhz, as a I live in a fairly heavy wifi environment and dont want to
disturb neighbours.
Based on your comments, I have now also disabled OBSS. But will that
reduce my wifi speed for other clients? I have mostly AC clients
Osamede wrote:
> It has been set at 2.4Ghz only, mixed BGN, AES, WPA2.
>
> This is the rest of settings here:
> https://imgur.com/KTat7qx
No idea!
One last idea - switch off the security/encryption on the router.
Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech
It has been set at 2.4Ghz only, mixed BGN, AES, WPA2.
This is the rest of settings here:
https://imgur.com/KTat7qx
3x Squeezebox Touch
2x Squeezebox Radios
1x Squeezebox Classic
Server: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.
Mobile: 3x Ipeng on Iphone / 2x Ipeng on Ipad / Orange
This sounds like a router issue to me. Is it the same router all the way
through?
*Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets
*Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 ->
Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7
*Office* - RPi -> Sony
Well as I described above, the unit I tried wired seemed to connect fine
into the nework. So it is specifically a wireless issue and only
affecting the squeezebox clients. So there is some wireless
compatibility issue to do with Squeezebox
All of the squeezeboxes came back online a day ago. I
But the tread tittle "wireless acess denied" seems like this tread
started with some authentication problem , password problem or similar
.
And actually I doubt that really are routers that can't be set to accept
wireless 801.11g as our old squeezeboxes use , there usually is a mode
for that .
Osamede wrote:
> Well as I described above, the unit I tried wired seemed to connect fine
> into the nework. So it is specifically a wireless issue and only
> affecting the squeezebox clients. So there is some wireless
> compatibility issue to do with Squeezebox
>
> All of the squeezeboxes came
Mnyb wrote:
> Another factor can be if the ISP can influence router settings and
> sometimes an upgrade of the router may change a setting .
I could have been this also, definitely. Question is what was the
setting. I wish I knew. Because they all went down, all the
squeezeboxes.
3x
Are all SB devices wireless? Do they completely fail to connect or are
the connections unstable? Are they not working wireless even when close
to the AP?
LMS is connected by wire to the router?
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reinholdk wrote:
> Are all SB devices wireless? Do they completely fail to connect or are
> the connections unstable? Are they not working wireless even when close
> to the AP?
> LMS is connected by wire to the router?
- LMS is connected ethernet to a powerline outlet. All is normal with
the
I have a similar problem affecting three Touch and a couple of Radios.
Just simply stopped connecting a couple of days ago. Wired works.
Wireless no dice. This both when I try connecting to AP on the router
modem as well as connecting to AP on a brand new powerline adapter.
Wired to the powerline
Mystery solved. Arris router/modem will not connect wirelessly to some
older devices including Squeezebox. Local tech added a Linksys wireless
router and disabled the Arris' wireless functionality. Works like a
charm both Classic and Radio. Thanks to everyone for their assistance!
Arris TG8626. The only one offered and supported by local Internet
provider.
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What make of router? Have you tried another (better) one?
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*Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 ->
Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7
*Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion
Returned to client location in an attempt to resolve inability to
connect Squeezebox Radio and Classic to an existing wireless network.
After exhausting all other setting changes, I ran through the 11 Channel
options and still no luck, including setting to the furnished screen
shot Channel 11 and
Get an Access Point and switch off wireless on the router ?
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*Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 ->
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*Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion
Filtering is off, but I manually added the MAC address to list of
approved devices anyway.
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gearhead wrote:
Filtering is off, but I manually added the MAC address to list of
approved devices anyway.
Probably ok. But double check that you are connecting to 2.4 wifi and
not 5ghz wifi
*Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio
w/Battery (all ethernet)
gearhead wrote:
Thanks to all who offered assistance. Here's where I'm at: Players
connect wired, but not wireless. I removed security login at the router
(Open) thus eliminating need for password key, still won't connect
wireless. Players connect wireless on another network so at this point
garym wrote:
Probably ok. But double check that you are connecting to 2.4 wifi and
not 5ghz wifi
Have you checked the advanced settings of your wireless routers where
you specify if it support b/g/n and all sort of other parameters like
short preamble and so on
LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom,
Router is 2.4 G only. Checking security settings.
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Thanks to all who offered assistance. Here's where I'm at: Players
connect wired, but not wireless. I removed security login at the router
(Open) thus eliminating need for password key, still won't connect
wireless. Players connect wireless on another network so at this point I
suspect a router
After an hour with internet provider Tech Support making numerous
settings adjustments (security, channel, etc.) still no wireless
connection. Router recognizes the Players but won't connect to Internet.
They suggested a firmware update to the Players... is that possible? Any
more ideas
Player Firmware is unlikely the issue. From the factory (Classic is 8
years old) they can connect to WiFi fine. Plus they connected fine to
the *other* WiFi, correct? Did they play internet radio on the *other*
WiFi? I'll bet they can. ;)
That is correct, played fine on another wireless network. Must be a
router setting we're missing?
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Here are two other threads that may help you.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?86696-My-new-SB-Touch-won-t-accept-WEP-password
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?79444-Can-t-connect-to-squeezebox-server
(Check out the guy's last post...dunno if it's relevant to your
Try without WMM ( untick that ) . Anyone with a controller remembering
how to avoid adding an extra space at the end of the passed dialog ,
should you press the middle,button once you typed in the pw and not the
forward arrow .
It might be easier to use net::udap script to configure the reciever
Michael... can you advise a solution? Thx.
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gearhead wrote:
I reset router to Open access, bypassing need for password. As before,
all other devices connect no issues, but not the Players (okay via wired
connections). Something is not right with the Squeezebox players in
wireless mode?!
And also turned of MAC address filtering as
No Solution, no. But I can repeat my suggestion from a few days ago:
turn off _all_ security, try again. Make sure you reset your player's
wlan settings, too. If that works, then turn on security one by one.
Am 18.03.15 um 01:14 schrieb gearhead:
Michael... can you advise a solution? Thx.
gearhead wrote:
I reset router to Open access, bypassing need for password. As before,
all other devices connect no issues, but not the Players (okay via wired
connections). Something is not right with the Squeezebox players in
wireless mode?!
Squeezeboxes are 2.4 GHz only?
kidstypike
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My SB3 classic did this a few months ago. I tried swapping the wireless
card inside the unit with the wireless card from another known-good
unit, but still no joy. I ended up running Cat5 from the loft and using
the ethernet port.
It detected the networks okay, but would never connect. My other
Yeah, I'm entering the security key, the same key used successfully for
connecting other networked devices. But for some reason it is not
recognized by the players in wireless mode. Okay wired. Help!
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Here's the wireless setup dialog (network name blanked for security
purposes.) Does this help?
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What security key is required for a wired device?
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Error message attached. Note: The very same key used successfully other
networked devices.
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toby10 wrote:
What security key is required for a wired device?
The same for wireless.
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I could drive myself crazy making those setting changes not to mention
the endless combinations. I did set the Radio's MAC address to a list of
approved devices but still no go.
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I suppose it's asking for a security key for the wireless network, not a
password. Is the key really the same as the password?
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Have you tried
- different channel
- different security setting
- different encryption mode
?
Am 16.03.15 um 17:57 schrieb gearhead:
Here's the wireless setup dialog (network name blanked for security
purposes.) Does this help?
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I reset router to Open access, bypassing need for password. As before,
all other devices connect no issues, but not the Players (okay via wired
connections). Something is not right with the Squeezebox players in
wireless mode?!
Radio and Classic successfully connect to secure wired network, but not
via wireless. Rejects password (same used for wired). Smartphone
connects no issues. Am I missing a setting? Thanks for any assistance.
What kind of wireless AP? What kind of security? How exactly is it being
rejected? Got
Make sure that you not by mistake add an extra space at the end off the
password .
And turn off the Mac adress filter completely it does increase security
a good password does .
Also make sure that you don't have any setting that limits the number of
devices you can connect .
Radio and Classic successfully connect to secure wired network, but not
via wireless. Rejects password (same used for wired). Smartphone
connects no issues. Am I missing a setting? Thanks for any assistance.
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