Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-03-29 Thread Osamede

I've used powerline with success as well. The ethernet has always been
good, but honestly the wireless on these things has always been the
achilles heel of Squeezebox - no pun intended in your case!



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-03-29 Thread abagos

Osamede wrote: 
> The problem may not be that you changed the channel but the
> interference.
> 
> In my case I further found that one of my neighbours has a router that
> is set to auto-hop channels and two others are using channel bonding in
> 2.4 Ghz. Together this seems to create problems that the Squeezebox wifi
> setup cannot deal with, even though other device in the house seem to
> manage - impacted, yes but they do manage to connect and work.
> 
> So in the end I have given up on my Squeezebox Touch devices in terms of
> wireless. I have one that I have connected to ethernet sharing from a PC
> and otherwise I have replaced the Squeezebox Touch with a Chromecast
> Audio. 
> 
> This is major downgrade with the loss of the top notch touchscreen on
> the SBT, but hey the Chromecast Audio actually holds a wireless signal
> perfectly. So I can listen to my music, which is what I want to do do
> instead of burying myself in computer forums for hours on end seeking
> solutions to Squeezebox wifi.

I guess that's a consequence of older hardware. If nothing works I will
try with a powerline adapter, I like the display together with the
option to have Spotify.

Thanks,
Alex.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-03-29 Thread Osamede

The problem may not be that you changed the channel but the
interference.

In my case I further found that one of my neighbours has a router that
is set to auto-hop channels and two others are using channel bonding in
2.4 Ghz. Together this seems to create problems that the Squeezebox wifi
setup cannot deal with, even though other device in the house seem to
manage - impacted, yes but they do manage to connect and work.

So in the end I have given up on my Squeezebox Touch devices in terms of
wireless. I have one that I have connected to ethernet sharing from a PC
and otherwise I have replaced the Squeezebox Touch with a Chromecast
Audio. 

This is major downgrade with the loss of the top notch touchscreen on
the SBT, but hey the Chromecast Audio actually holds a wireless signal
perfectly. So I can listen to my music, which is what I want to do do
instead of burying myself in computer forums for hours on end seeking
solutions to Squeezebox wifi.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-03-29 Thread abagos

I see to be having a similar problem. I have been having some WiFi
problems and found out that there are a lot of APs above channel 6 in
the neighbourhood. So I switched my AP to channel 1. Since then my
Squeezebox Classic refuses to connect. I have tried different settings
for security, other channels, no luck.
I cannot figure out why changing the channel created the problem...

Alex.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-04 Thread Mnyb

Turn off B mode if possible G and N is all you need unless you have some
incredible old stuff




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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-04 Thread Osamede

The wireless interference from neighbour sounds the most plausible
explanation. Will look into that with the wireless diagnostics. Still
its a shame the squeezeboxes are so jumpy on wireless. I've not had
headaches from any of my wireless gear otherwise. Anyway will look at
the wireless diagnostics. And pray that the network stays up now...

Thanks to all for the input and help.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-03 Thread Osamede

epoch1970 wrote: 
> XpressTM Technology is some Broadcom secret sauce for frame bursting it
> seems. Perhaps the SB players don't like that? This is non-standard, for
> sure.
> Also, is Tx power (80%) set to its default level? If you've set it, have
> you checked it really makes a difference in terms of coverage, e.g with
> a sniffer on a mobile phone?
> Recently I was playing with a self made AP on a Raspberry Pi, my mac
> desktop was happy to detect the AP but unless it was in close range the
> association would fail with "wrong password". One less wall in the
> wireless path, and voilà, "good password"...
> 
> (Instead of re-reading the whole tread, I'll ask a ludicrous question,
> sorry. When you say the SBs drop from wifi, you mean that in the APs the
> SB clients are listed as de-associated, right? You don't mean they are
> associated but did not receive, for some reason, an IP address lease...)


I have had both scenarios:
- clients linked to AP but won’t connect to LMS (I would guess that is
no IP address?)
- clients won’t to connect to AP at all

But what has always been consistent is that the clients will connect
fine to LMS if I take them and test plug them into ethernet on the
router, or if I plug them into powerline-based ethernet. 

It is when I try to connect the squeezeboxes via wifi that it all fails.


What’s bizarre is that at no point have I ever had a problem connecting
to LMS wirelessly via Squeezeplay on my laptops and desktops. 

So there is something that comes down to wifi on the SB  hardware units.
And it is very inconsistent as occasionally they work and then mostly
they don’t. But they all seem to work or not work at the same time
together.



I will try the XpressTM Technologything



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-03 Thread epoch1970

Osamede wrote: 
> It has been set at 2.4Ghz only, mixed BGN, AES, WPA2. 
> 
> This is the rest of settings here:
> https://imgur.com/KTat7qx

XpressTM Technology is some Broadcom secret sauce for frame bursting it
seems. Perhaps the SB players don't like that? This is non-standard, for
sure.
Also, is Tx power (80%) set to its default level? If you've set it, have
you checked it really makes a difference in terms of coverage, e.g with
a sniffer on a mobile phone? 

(Instead of re-reading the whole tread, I'll ask a ludicrous question,
sorry. When you say the SBs drop from wifi, you mean that in the APs the
SB clients are listed as de-associated, right? You don't mean they are
associated but did not receive, for some reason, an IP address lease...)



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-03 Thread epoch1970

Ok so now I've read your story from the start.
It looks like a wireless interference issue because players drop all at
the same time, on any of the 2 APs. And it seems that the connection can
get bad enough for DHCP leases to fail to go through sometimes.
The 2nd AP doesn't seem to help, and it is a local source of
interference... I would suggest to shutdown one of the 2 APs for the
moment. 

You have a mac laptop. Can you look repeatedly at the mac's wireless
connection, possibly to catch a change in wifi AP settings between a
state where players are OK, and players get down?
The most practical way to do this I think would be pressing the alt key
and clicking the wireless fan icon on top of the screen. With alt
pressed, you can already see some details about your current connection.
If you do this often enough you'll see if your AP has changed its setup,
causing your mac to follow suit, but causing the SBs to drop.

Or perhaps the interference comes from the outside. With alt-click on
the wireless fan icon, you can select "Open Wireless Diagnostics..." at
the top of the menu. A dummy wireless assistant will pop up, but you are
interested in the "Window" menu item of Wireless Diagnostics: the Scan
window is particularly interesting, it reports SSIDs, channels, channel
width, signal strength etc. (scroll to see all the columns.)
To run a scan, the wifi interface has to be up, but you'll see more of
the landscape if you disconnect from your own AP before running it.
(alt-click the wifi fan icon, there is a "disconnect from "
option)
Writing this I ran a scan and there is one bully in my neighborhood,
that uses 40MHz channel width in the 2.4GHz band. He's rather far (big
negative RSSI number), so that's no problem.
If you routinely get info, perhaps you'll see a change at the moment the
SB drops. 

There is also "Monitor mode" that can catch everything the wireless
interface of the mac is able to "hear". But this generates an
intractable packet dump file that can be read with "tcpdump -r
" in the console or with WireShark. I wouldn't want to go
there myself.

Good luck ;)



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread epoch1970

Could be "client isolation", a rather common default setting.
(But frankly it could be many things incl. password/ssid/crypto
change...)



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread Osamede

epoch1970 wrote: 
> Could be "client isolation", a rather common default setting.
> (But frankly it could be many things incl. password/ssid/crypto
> change...)

I dont have client islolation and all the Plex clients in the house have
no problem seeing the server, via both wireless APs. Itunes/Airplay
devices seeing each other fine.  So I dont think its client isloation

Today we are back to square one  - wired squeezebox is fine, while
wireless squeezeboxes are not working again. And this time I have not
touched the network settings in any way.

No idea why. Getting tired of this



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread castalla

Osamede wrote: 
> Ok, so this gets even weirder. I applied the OBSS disable on the
> 2.4ghz-only AP on the router/modem and rebooted it and the squeezeboxes.
> They still wont connect to that AP. So basically that didnt solve it
> 
> But meanwhile now all of a sudden, the squeezeboxes will connect to the
> 2.4 + 5 AC wireless AP on the powerline. 
> 
> Really I dont get this...

Your reference to the powerline made me recall that when I used such a
set up any glitch in the AP feature could create havoc on the network. 
Have you tried with the powerline turned off (just as a test)?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread Osamede

These problems preceed the existence of powerline in the house. I
actually bought the powerline because at first I though some of the
squeezebox problem was due to a weak signal strength, as my main
router/modem is in the basement. And that allowed me to deploy the main
unit as 2.4 ghz only.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread epoch1970

Osamede wrote: 
> Based on your comments, I have now also disabled OBSS. But will that
> reduce my wifi speed for other clients? I have mostly AC clients and a
> couple of N. The squeezebox are the only G clients I own.
I *believe* OBSS allows/disallows using a channel frequency that might
be unused by neighboring routers. So that would allow/disallow your
router from opportunistically bonding additional 20MHz channels to
increase throughtput. So the max speed in wifi N, over a single channel,
would be 150mbps (instead of the 300 or 450 possibly advertised.)

5GHz (wifi-ac) is not a bad option if you can deploy it, it's a much
less crowded space. Though in my experience coverage is not quite as
good as 2.4GHz when the signal has to go through obstacles.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread Osamede

Ok, so this gets even weirder. I applied the OBSS disable on the
2.4ghz-only AP on the router/modem and rebooted it and the squeezeboxes.
They still wont connect to that AP. So basically that didnt solve it

But meanwhile now all of a sudden, the squeezeboxes will connect to the
2.4 + 5 AC wireless AP on the powerline. 

Really I dont get this...



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread castalla

Osamede wrote: 
> These problems preceed the existence of powerline in the house. I
> actually bought the powerline because at first I though some of the
> squeezebox problem was due to a weak signal strength, as my main
> router/modem is in the basement. And that allowed me to deploy the main
> unit as 2.4 ghz only.

Okay.

On the router, can you set the wireless security to AES only?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread epoch1970

Mhh. There is little doc on the Zyxel p8702n available in a language
that I speak... But I think this device is dual band, dual radio,
a/b/g/n.
Since the squeezeboxes were born in the wifi g era, I would make sure
the router doesn't use funky 2.4GHz wifi-N options. Channel width should
be set to 20MHz, and OBSS Coexistence should be disabled.
Or simply limit the 2.4GHz radio to wifi-G and keep wifi-N on 5GHz only
if your clients are all 5GHz-capable.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread Osamede

Thanks for the reply. I have always had 20Mhz-only selected and never 40
Mhz, as a I live in a fairly heavy wifi environment and dont want to
disturb neighbours.

Based on your comments, I have now also disabled OBSS. But will that
reduce my wifi speed for other clients? I have mostly AC clients and a
couple of N. The squeezebox are the only G clients I own.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread castalla

Osamede wrote: 
> It has been set at 2.4Ghz only, mixed BGN, AES, WPA2. 
> 
> This is the rest of settings here:
> https://imgur.com/KTat7qx

No idea!   

One last idea - switch off the security/encryption on the router.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-02 Thread Osamede

It has been set at 2.4Ghz only, mixed BGN, AES, WPA2. 

This is the rest of settings here:
https://imgur.com/KTat7qx



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-01 Thread d6jg

This sounds like a router issue to me. Is it the same router all the way
through?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-01 Thread Osamede

Well as I described above, the unit I tried wired seemed to connect fine
into the nework. So it is specifically a wireless issue and only
affecting the squeezebox clients. So there is some wireless
compatibility issue to do with Squeezebox

All of the squeezeboxes came back online a day ago. I fiddled around
with a million things on the modem/router (Zyxel 8702) settings and am
still not sure what did the trick.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-01 Thread Mnyb

But the tread tittle "wireless acess denied" seems like this tread
started with some authentication problem , password problem or similar
.

And actually I doubt that really are routers that can't be set to accept
wireless 801.11g as our old squeezeboxes use , there usually is a mode
for that . However it can be locked down by the ISP ? ( I weird practice
that's uncommon where I live ) .

Another idea I've practiced is to bin the router provided by the ISP and
bring my own . In fact last time I changed ISP I simply did not order
any hardware I just connected with the provided settings using a router
that I trusted to work .




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Misc use: Radio (with battery)
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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-01 Thread Mnyb

Osamede wrote: 
> Well as I described above, the unit I tried wired seemed to connect fine
> into the nework. So it is specifically a wireless issue and only
> affecting the squeezebox clients. So there is some wireless
> compatibility issue to do with Squeezebox
> 
> All of the squeezeboxes came back online a day ago. I fiddled around
> with a million things on the modem/router (Zyxel 8702) settings and am
> still not sure what did the trick.

Routers are computers make it a habbit to reboot them once a mounts or
something , leave some of them on for a year or two and they don't work
very well anymore at lest not consumer models they are somewhat buggy .

Another factor can be if the ISP can influence router settings and
sometimes an upgrade of the router may change a setting .




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Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc use: Radio (with battery)
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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-02-01 Thread Osamede

Mnyb wrote: 
> Another factor can be if the ISP can influence router settings and
> sometimes an upgrade of the router may change a setting .

I could have been this also, definitely. Question is what was the
setting. I wish I knew. Because they all went down, all the
squeezeboxes.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-01-28 Thread reinholdk

Are all SB devices wireless? Do they completely fail to connect or are
the connections unstable? Are they not working wireless even when close
to the AP?
LMS is connected by wire to the router?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-01-28 Thread Osamede

reinholdk wrote: 
> Are all SB devices wireless? Do they completely fail to connect or are
> the connections unstable? Are they not working wireless even when close
> to the AP?
> LMS is connected by wire to the router?

- LMS is connected ethernet to a powerline outlet. All is normal with
the control panel and the local host page
- Squeezeplay on my Macbook has no problem connecting wireless to LMS.
It is sitting three feet away from one of the SB Touch that refuses
connect
-  All SB hardware units are wireless. They do not connect to wireless
on any of my two wireless APs (1 integrated into the modem/router & 1
integrated a powerline adapter)
- The one SB hardware that does connect to LMS is the one I changed to
ethernet connection to the powerline to see if it would connect (it
does).

Interestingly, this is the second time I have experienced this. I used
to have all the SB units wireless to the AP on the modem router and a
couple months ago they one by one stopped connecting

This is why I bought the powerline setup (Devolo DLAN 1200+ ket with
wireless AC) which all is hooked up as clients to the router/modem which
is the DHCP server. Initially all the SB units connected fine to
wireless on the new powerline AP just fine. Worked great for a month.
Then suddenly same thing again - none of the SB units will connect to
LMS via wireless anymore.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-01-28 Thread Osamede

I have a similar problem affecting three Touch and a couple of Radios.
Just simply stopped connecting a couple of days ago. Wired works.
Wireless no dice. This both when I try connecting to AP on the router
modem as well as connecting to AP on a brand new powerline adapter.
Wired to the powerline adapter on the other hand works fine.  It's a bit
annoying to need to add a wireless dongle, to what should BE the
dongle.

I cannot use channels 11 or 13 as they are awfully crowded where I live,
but channels 1 and 6 I have tried. 

Anyone have any ideas on what the solution could be?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2016-01-05 Thread gearhead

Mystery solved. Arris router/modem will not connect wirelessly to some
older devices including Squeezebox. Local tech added a Linksys wireless
router and disabled the Arris' wireless functionality. Works like a
charm both Classic and Radio. Thanks to everyone for their assistance!



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-11-16 Thread gearhead

Arris TG8626. The only one offered and supported by local Internet
provider.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-11-16 Thread d6jg

What make of router? Have you tried another (better) one?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-11-16 Thread gearhead

Returned to client location in an attempt to resolve inability to
connect Squeezebox Radio and Classic to an existing wireless network.
After exhausting all other setting changes, I ran through the 11 Channel
options and still no luck, including setting to the furnished screen
shot Channel 11 and Security Mode WPA2-PSK (attached). Any advice
appreciated!19236


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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-11-16 Thread d6jg

Get an Access Point and switch off wireless on the router ?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-20 Thread gearhead

Filtering is off, but I manually added the MAC address to list of
approved devices anyway.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-20 Thread garym

gearhead wrote: 
 Filtering is off, but I manually added the MAC address to list of
 approved devices anyway.

Probably ok. But double check that you are connecting to 2.4 wifi and
not 5ghz wifi



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-20 Thread garym

gearhead wrote: 
 Thanks to all who offered assistance. Here's where I'm at: Players
 connect wired, but not wireless. I removed security login at the router
 (Open) thus eliminating need for password key, still won't connect
 wireless. Players connect wireless on another network so at this point I
 suspect a router setting. But which one?

I would double check any Mac address filtering in router



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-20 Thread philippe_44

garym wrote: 
 Probably ok. But double check that you are connecting to 2.4 wifi and
 not 5ghz wifi

Have you checked the advanced settings of your wireless routers where
you specify if it support b/g/n and all sort of other parameters like
short preamble and so on



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-20 Thread gearhead

Router is 2.4 G only. Checking security settings.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-20 Thread gearhead

Thanks to all who offered assistance. Here's where I'm at: Players
connect wired, but not wireless. I removed security login at the router
(Open) thus eliminating need for password key, still won't connect
wireless. Players connect wireless on another network so at this point I
suspect a router setting. But which one?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-20 Thread gearhead

After an hour with internet provider Tech Support making numerous
settings adjustments (security, channel, etc.) still no wireless
connection. Router recognizes the Players but won't connect to Internet.
They suggested a firmware update to the Players... is that possible? Any
more ideas cheerfully received!



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-20 Thread toby10

Player Firmware is unlikely the issue.  From the factory (Classic is 8
years old) they can connect to WiFi fine.  Plus they connected fine to
the *other* WiFi, correct?  Did they play internet radio on the *other*
WiFi?  I'll bet they can.  ;)



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-20 Thread gearhead

That is correct, played fine on another wireless network. Must be a
router setting we're missing?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-19 Thread Fizbin

Here are two other threads that may help you.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?86696-My-new-SB-Touch-won-t-accept-WEP-password

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?79444-Can-t-connect-to-squeezebox-server
(Check out the guy's last post...dunno if it's relevant to your issue.)



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-19 Thread Mnyb

Try without WMM ( untick that ) . Anyone with a controller remembering
how to avoid adding an extra space at the end of the passed dialog ,
should you press the middle,button once you typed in the pw and not the
forward arrow .

It might be easier to use net::udap script to configure the reciever .

Op is using WPA so advice re WEP pass phrases may not help ? But trying
another password with letters migth be an idea .




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Misc use: Radio (with battery)
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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-17 Thread gearhead

Michael... can you advise a solution? Thx.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-17 Thread garym

gearhead wrote: 
 I reset router to Open access, bypassing need for password. As before,
 all other devices connect no issues, but not the Players (okay via wired
 connections). Something is not right with the Squeezebox players in
 wireless mode?!

And also turned of MAC address filtering as well?



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Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-17 Thread Michael Herger
No Solution, no. But I can repeat my suggestion from a few days ago: 
turn off _all_ security, try again. Make sure you reset your player's 
wlan settings, too. If that works, then turn on security one by one.


Am 18.03.15 um 01:14 schrieb gearhead:


Michael... can you advise a solution? Thx.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread kidstypike

gearhead wrote: 
 I reset router to Open access, bypassing need for password. As before,
 all other devices connect no issues, but not the Players (okay via wired
 connections). Something is not right with the Squeezebox players in
 wireless mode?!

Squeezeboxes are 2.4 GHz only?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread jimwillsher

My SB3 classic did this a few months ago. I tried swapping the wireless
card inside the unit with the wireless card from another known-good
unit, but still no joy. I ended up running Cat5 from the loft and using
the ethernet port.

It detected the networks okay, but would never connect. My other two SB3
units, and the Boom, and my iPhone/iPad/laptop all connected fine, but
this one unit would not connect (but had done so for many years).


Jim



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread gearhead

Yeah, I'm entering the security key, the same key used successfully for
connecting other networked devices. But for some reason it is not
recognized by the players in wireless mode. Okay wired. Help!



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread gearhead

Here's the wireless setup dialog (network name blanked for security
purposes.) Does this help?
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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread toby10

What security key is required for a wired device?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread gearhead

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Error message attached. Note: The very same key used successfully other
networked devices.


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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread gearhead

toby10 wrote: 
 What security key is required for a wired device?

The same for wireless.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread gearhead

I could drive myself crazy making those setting changes not to mention
the endless combinations. I did set the Radio's MAC address to a list of
approved devices but still no go.



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread alfista

I suppose it's asking for a security key for the wireless network, not a
password. Is the key really the same as the password?



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread Michael Herger

Have you tried

- different channel
- different security setting
- different encryption mode

?


Am 16.03.15 um 17:57 schrieb gearhead:


Here's the wireless setup dialog (network name blanked for security
purposes.) Does this help?
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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread gearhead

I reset router to Open access, bypassing need for password. As before,
all other devices connect no issues, but not the Players (okay via wired
connections). Something is not right with the Squeezebox players in
wireless mode?!



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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread Michael Herger

Radio and Classic successfully connect to secure wired network, but not
via wireless. Rejects password (same used for wired). Smartphone
connects no issues. Am I missing a setting? Thanks for any assistance.


What kind of wireless AP? What kind of security? How exactly is it being 
rejected? Got any error message? Do you have any means to check logs 
on the access point or router?


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Re: [slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-16 Thread Mnyb

Make sure that you not by mistake add an extra space at the end off the
password .

And turn off the Mac adress filter completely it does increase security
a good password does .
Also make sure that you don't have any setting that limits the number of
devices you can connect .




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[slim] wireless access denied

2015-03-15 Thread gearhead

Radio and Classic successfully connect to secure wired network, but not
via wireless. Rejects password (same used for wired). Smartphone
connects no issues. Am I missing a setting? Thanks for any assistance.



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