Re: [Discuss] pulling along those behind

2015-10-28 Thread Peter Steinbach
For all those interested, I finished a first version of the blog post on the etherpad. Feel free to dial over and provide feedback or make additions. I'd then convert this to a PR to the SWC site repo. Best, Peter On 10/28/2015 09:59 AM, Greg Wilson wrote: Hi everyone, The simplest way to

Re: [Discuss] pulling along those behind

2015-10-28 Thread Karin Lagesen
One of the things that I always emphasize before and during the workshop is that my aim is not to teach them to be programmers, but to make it less scary if and when they do decide to learn things more in depth. My main goal is to demystify programming. That way, it becomes less about

Re: [Discuss] Report: Software Carpentry 2015-10-27-28

2015-10-28 Thread Raniere Silva
Hi Maxime, thanks to share the information about the workshop. > I think this is a very good ratio of "no show". Agreed. > * Git bash, used on Windows to teach bash and git, does not contain >nano, or any simple editor (but it contains vi... ) > * Many users had trouble configuring

Re: [Discuss] Report: Software Carpentry 2015-10-27-28

2015-10-28 Thread Maxime Boissonneault
Hi Raniere, Indeed, this was pointed out by my collegue, but it had eluded me. I will have to check again for the workshop I am giving in 2 weeks. Thanks, Maxime Le 2015-10-28 22:06, Raniere Silva a écrit : Hi Maxime, thanks to share the information about the workshop. I think this is a

Re: [Discuss] pulling along those behind

2015-10-28 Thread Karin Lagesen
+1000 to this. On that note, I always congratulate people when they get their first error message. Only way to learn is to fail first. Karin On 28/10/15 21:49, Sam Penrose wrote: I wonder if it is helpful in effect to reverse the polarity of the identification, to say: Programmers spend

Re: [Discuss] pulling along those behind

2015-10-28 Thread Sam Penrose
I wonder if it is helpful in effect to reverse the polarity of the identification, to say: Programmers spend their time getting complex systems to play nicely, which is a process of repeatedly getting stuck, then making some progress, then getting stuck again. If you have felt stuck or bewildered

Re: [Discuss] pulling along those behind

2015-10-28 Thread David Martin (Staff)
What Karin says. Even in a less pressured environment there is no hope of someone turning up to a SC workshop and coming out of it a fully functioning and competent person int he areas they have been exposed to. However, what we have done, as instructors, is to sketch the route map and show

Re: [Discuss] pulling along those behind

2015-10-28 Thread David Martin (Staff)
I encourage the students to break it in a known way so they can recognise the error messages. 'What happens if you forget to close the quote/miss out the comma' etc. Now you know what error you get so you know what to look for if you see that error again (unclosed quote/missing comma etc.) If

Re: [Discuss] pulling along those behind

2015-10-28 Thread Greg Wilson
Hi everyone, The simplest way to start might be to throw stuff into this Etherpad: http://pad.software-carpentry.org/pulling-along-those-behind Cheers, Greg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.software-carpentry.org