On 31 Jul 2007, at 16:33, Alan Blackwell wrote:
Marian Petre and I have written a paper, to be presented at VL/
HCC 2007, which sets out to describe what kids *actually* want to
program, as opposed to what adults think would be good for them.
Anyone who wants a preview, I'm sure Marian won't
John Pane wrote:
Why shouldn't programming be included in the mix of experiences a child
has?
I think we need to be clear whether we are talking about informal
education in the home led by parents, or a national curriculum for
delivery by teachers in schools.
I think the OP was concerned
Nice response, John! I agree -- there's value in exploring, playing with, and
learning programming for its own sake.
I've been recently gathering examples of undergraduate courses outside of
computing disciplines where programming is used (and typically taught, too,
because rarely are CS
others.
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Can anyone point me to any research results that show that teaching kids
funnily, this just came in on another list:
On 01/08/07, Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wanted to make a short pre-release announcement about the next version
of Tux Paint (my OSS drawing app for young kids). Note: This is directed
to
folks here who are teaching _older_ kids
. I wonder
whether they might have done even better on the mathematics than the
ToonTalk group.
Ruven Brooks
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Is this asking WHY try
: PPIG discuss: teaching kids to program
Is this asking WHY try to teach children programming?
A possible answer would be that it does something which has a positive
transfer to other areas - and that there is no evidence that it does, or
It produces better commercial programmers whne
/Educational_programming_language )
Chris
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What does an economist
On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:15 PM, Linda McIver wrote:
I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned John Pane's PhD work yet.
John actually did research (gasp) on how kids naturally specify
problem solutions, and came up with a system that allowed them to do
all kinds of neat programming in what was,
Ruven E Brooks wrote:
Yes, I am really asking the question, why try to teach children programming?
...
Walter Milner questions, as do I, whether there is any general
benefit in other areas to teaching programming. Yishay Mor gives
some references to work that shows that doing programming
Hi all
We had a discussion regarding this at PPIG 2007 in Joensuu. In my
opinion there is too much emphasis on Lego Mindstorms and introducing
kids to programming using robots. I was at a meeting once where someone
professed that if you aren't interested in Mindstorms or robots you
won't be
We're seeing a lot of use of both Alice and the new MIT Scratch with children.
We're successfully using Python for media computation with children as young as
11 years old.
Mark
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We're seeing a lot of use of both Alice and the new MIT Scratch with
children. We're successfully using Python
Marian Petre and I have written a paper, to be presented at VL/
HCC 2007, which sets out to describe what kids *actually* want to
program, as opposed to what adults think would be good for them.
Anyone who wants a preview, I'm sure Marian won't mind if I
offer preview copies to anyone who
Walter Milner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A while back Papert in Mindstorms proposed that young children be taught to
program in Logo, and that this would enhance their cognitive development and
expose them to 'powerful ideas'.
I don't know if the programming language has as much of an impact as
I'm came across on Lifehacker:
Teach a kid of program (how to?)
http://tinyurl.com/3al4o8 (howto.wired.com)
http://blog.wired.com/geekdad/2007/07/how-to-teach-a-.html
Have any of tried to teach your young kids to program?
Paola
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http://www.paolability.com/
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