RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-12-27 Thread Tal Liron
Great! I agree with this new direction.

Well, for now I will implement your requested feature.

 Hi Tal,
 
 In RF 3.0, we should really give more precise control regarding extensions

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-12-26 Thread Jerome Louvel
Hi Tal,

In RF 3.0, we should really give more precise control regarding extensions
usage for:

   - connectors
   - converters
   - authenticators

The configuration of a Restlet component or application should be explicit
and fully available programmatically.

I'm even considering fully removing the classpath based auto-registration
as it seems to create more problems than solutions.

Best regards,
Jerome



2013/11/26 Tal Liron tal.li...@threecrickets.com

 Actually, it's a feature I would like to see with *all* Restlet
 extensions: it would be nice for users to be able select which extensions
 they want to use, rather than configure it solely via the classpath.

 Possibly with Java properties? I can imagine every extension class having
 an enabled property.

  Thanks Tal, this looks great. We might want to add parameters to
  disable/enable the client/server connector from the extension as a second
  step to allow mixing of several connector extensions.
 
  I've added a note about this to the matching ticket:
  https://github.com/restlet/restlet-framework-java/issues/512

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RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-26 Thread Tal Liron
Actually, it's a feature I would like to see with *all* Restlet extensions: it 
would be nice for users to be able select which extensions they want to use, 
rather than configure it solely via the classpath.

Possibly with Java properties? I can imagine every extension class having an 
enabled property. 

 Thanks Tal, this looks great. We might want to add parameters to
 disable/enable the client/server connector from the extension as a second
 step to allow mixing of several connector extensions.
 
 I've added a note about this to the matching ticket:
 https://github.com/restlet/restlet-framework-java/issues/512

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-25 Thread Jerome Louvel
Thanks Tal, this looks great. We might want to add parameters to
disable/enable the client/server connector from the extension as a second
step to allow mixing of several connector extensions.

I've added a note about this to the matching ticket:
https://github.com/restlet/restlet-framework-java/issues/512

Jerome



2013/11/22 Tal Liron tal.li...@threecrickets.com

 I went ahead and also added a Jetty 9 client connector:

 https://github.com/tliron/restlet-jetty9

 Note that if you add the Jar to your classpath, both the server and client
 connectors will be activated.

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RE: Re: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-22 Thread Tal Liron
I went ahead and also added a Jetty 9 client connector:

https://github.com/tliron/restlet-jetty9

Note that if you add the Jar to your classpath, both the server and client 
connectors will be activated.

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Re: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-11 Thread Jerome Louvel
It looks good, thanks Tal!

Jerome


2013/11/9 Tal Liron tal.li...@threecrickets.com

 Binaries and API documentation are now available via the GitHub project
 site.

 Enjoy!

  https://github.com/tliron/restlet-jetty9

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RE: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-09 Thread Tal Liron
Binaries and API documentation are now available via the GitHub project site.

Enjoy!

 https://github.com/tliron/restlet-jetty9

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RE: Re: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-08 Thread Tal Liron
Excellent. If anyone has comments, here is the GitHub issue:

https://github.com/restlet/restlet-framework-java/issues/793

 That's fine Tal, whatever works best for you. Merging by hand won't be a
 big issue anyway.
 
 You might want to enter an issue in RF repo to let people discover this
 support and let us communicate over it.
 
 Best regards,
 Jerome

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RE: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-07 Thread Tal Liron
So, I went ahead and created a Jetty 9 extension for Restlet 2.2:

https://github.com/tliron/restlet-jetty9

It's not much tested (especially SSL), but it does work! There are also 2 
helper parameters that I still haven't found how to duplicate on Jetty 9, so 
they are just be ignored. Actually, I would prefer a more major refactor, 
because Jetty 9 is different enough that it would demand a different set of 
parameters.

Jetty 9 is a major overhaul of the API: it was naïve of me to think it could 
just be a drop-in replacement. :)

Obviously, you need at least JVM 7 to use Jetty 9.

As I said, would prefer to contribute this to Restlet, but the JVM 7 
requirement makes it awkward.

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Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-07 Thread Jerome Louvel
I suggest that you create a new
/restlet-framework-java/master/incubator/org.restlet.ext.jetty9 extension
by copying then adapting the o.r.e.jetty extension.

You can always have you own branch in GitHub and then merge it back when
master becomes ready for RF 3.0 (Java 7), but from a licensing point of
view you can't offer all the available open source licenses and would need
to pick one (I suggest Apache license).

Best regards,
Jerome



2013/11/6 Tal Liron tal.li...@threecrickets.com

 The API has indeed subtly changed, so that throwing in the Jars will not
 work. And though Restlet doesn't use AJP to communicate with Jetty, it does
 try to initialize AJP support, and those classes no longer exist in Jetty
 9, thus another kind of failure. Bottom line, it won't work.

 Jerome, Jetty 9 is an important feature for me, but I understand that it
 would be difficult to include this support in the Restlet main code base,
 because it would indeed require JVM 7 to compile. What is your opinion
 about me forking and hosting a jetty9 extension separately from the
 Restlet tree? I would be happy to keep the same multiple licenses. And
 eventually, when Restlet becomes ready for JVM 7, it could be merged into
 the main tree.

 Another idea is to create yet another repository within Restlet for
 contrib extensions from the community. They could be included in the
 Restlet distribution, each with its own documentation and possible quirks,
 clearly demarcated from the core extensions.

 -Tal

  Restlet integration with Jetty (the org.restlet.ext.jetty extension)
 isn't
  based on AJP but on core Jetty APIs, enable support of HTTP/HTTPS and
 AJP.
 
  I haven't tried but dropping new Jetty JARs might just do it, but likely
  they have changed their internal API here and there and some patches will
  be required. Anyone want to have a look?
 
  The main issue I see for Jetty 9 in RF 2.2 is their requirement on Java
  7... It seems like the official support should come instead in RF 3.0.
 
  Jerome
 
 
 
 
  2013/11/6 Bryan Hunt bhunt at mac dot com
 
   You can always use the servlet extension with Jetty.
  
   Bryan
  
  
   On Nov 06, 2013, at 08:45 AM, Tal Liron tal dot liron at
 threecrickets dot com
   wrote:
  
   The answer, unfortunately, is no: Restlet uses AJP to connect to Jetty,
   which is unfortunate because it's not a recommended protocol, and has
 been
   dropped in Jetty 9.
  
   Would it be possible to change the Jetty connector so that it would
 work
   with either Jetty 8 or 9? It's very unfortunate that Restlet is always
   behind on the latest releases of Jetty,
  
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RE: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-07 Thread Tal Liron
Thanks, Jerome.

I picked the Apache License 2.0, and am hosting it as a separate project. I'm 
assigning joint copyright on it to Restlet S.A.S, per the contributor 
agreement, so you are free to merge it should you ever wish to do so:

https://github.com/tliron/restlet-jetty9

Rather than a branch, it's its own tiny repository. I know you've made many 
efforts to make things easier for contributers, but alas it's still too 
cumbersome for me. The Restlet repository is enormous and unwieldy, and in fact 
I haven't been able to build it at all. It's just too much effort over no clear 
gain to be part of the incubator at this point. Maven builds, especially, 
make it trivial to use the Restlet binaries without having to be part of the 
git tree. Just treat the project as an incubator if you like!


 I suggest that you create a new
 /restlet-framework-java/master/incubator/org.restlet.ext.jetty9 extension
 by copying then adapting the o.r.e.jetty extension.
 
 You can always have you own branch in GitHub and then merge it back when
 master becomes ready for RF 3.0 (Java 7), but from a licensing point of
 view you can't offer all the available open source licenses and would need
 to pick one (I suggest Apache license).
 
 Best regards,
 Jerome

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Re: Re: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-07 Thread Jerome Louvel
That's fine Tal, whatever works best for you. Merging by hand won't be a
big issue anyway.

You might want to enter an issue in RF repo to let people discover this
support and let us communicate over it.

Best regards,
Jerome


2013/11/7 Tal Liron tal.li...@threecrickets.com

 Thanks, Jerome.

 I picked the Apache License 2.0, and am hosting it as a separate project.
 I'm assigning joint copyright on it to Restlet S.A.S, per the contributor
 agreement, so you are free to merge it should you ever wish to do so:

 https://github.com/tliron/restlet-jetty9

 Rather than a branch, it's its own tiny repository. I know you've made
 many efforts to make things easier for contributers, but alas it's still
 too cumbersome for me. The Restlet repository is enormous and unwieldy, and
 in fact I haven't been able to build it at all. It's just too much effort
 over no clear gain to be part of the incubator at this point. Maven
 builds, especially, make it trivial to use the Restlet binaries without
 having to be part of the git tree. Just treat the project as an incubator
 if you like!


  I suggest that you create a new
  /restlet-framework-java/master/incubator/org.restlet.ext.jetty9 extension
  by copying then adapting the o.r.e.jetty extension.
 
  You can always have you own branch in GitHub and then merge it back when
  master becomes ready for RF 3.0 (Java 7), but from a licensing point of
  view you can't offer all the available open source licenses and would
 need
  to pick one (I suggest Apache license).
 
  Best regards,
  Jerome

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RE: Re: Jetty 9?

2013-11-06 Thread Tal Liron
The API has indeed subtly changed, so that throwing in the Jars will not work. 
And though Restlet doesn't use AJP to communicate with Jetty, it does try to 
initialize AJP support, and those classes no longer exist in Jetty 9, thus 
another kind of failure. Bottom line, it won't work.

Jerome, Jetty 9 is an important feature for me, but I understand that it would 
be difficult to include this support in the Restlet main code base, because it 
would indeed require JVM 7 to compile. What is your opinion about me forking 
and hosting a jetty9 extension separately from the Restlet tree? I would be 
happy to keep the same multiple licenses. And eventually, when Restlet becomes 
ready for JVM 7, it could be merged into the main tree.

Another idea is to create yet another repository within Restlet for contrib 
extensions from the community. They could be included in the Restlet 
distribution, each with its own documentation and possible quirks, clearly 
demarcated from the core extensions.

-Tal

 Restlet integration with Jetty (the org.restlet.ext.jetty extension) isn't
 based on AJP but on core Jetty APIs, enable support of HTTP/HTTPS and AJP.
 
 I haven't tried but dropping new Jetty JARs might just do it, but likely
 they have changed their internal API here and there and some patches will
 be required. Anyone want to have a look?
 
 The main issue I see for Jetty 9 in RF 2.2 is their requirement on Java
 7... It seems like the official support should come instead in RF 3.0.
 
 Jerome
 
 
 
 
 2013/11/6 Bryan Hunt bhunt at mac dot com
 
  You can always use the servlet extension with Jetty.
 
  Bryan
 
 
  On Nov 06, 2013, at 08:45 AM, Tal Liron tal dot liron at threecrickets dot 
  com
  wrote:
 
  The answer, unfortunately, is no: Restlet uses AJP to connect to Jetty,
  which is unfortunate because it's not a recommended protocol, and has been
  dropped in Jetty 9.
 
  Would it be possible to change the Jetty connector so that it would work
  with either Jetty 8 or 9? It's very unfortunate that Restlet is always
  behind on the latest releases of Jetty,
 
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