Re: newbie questions

2009-04-23 Thread Richard Danter
Hi Riccardo, 2009/4/22 Riccardo Mottola mul...@ngi.it: Hi, Richard Danter wrote: I have tried installing GNUstep on both an Ubuntu Linux machine with a GNOME desktop and on a NetBSD machine which is rather old (hardware, not NetBSD version) and since it can't cope with either GNOME or KDE

Re: Window managers ( was Re: newbie question )

2009-04-23 Thread David Chisnall
On 23 Apr 2009, at 00:28, Yen-Ju Chen wrote: I am also watching a new window manager called i3. It is written in XCB, a supposed replacement for xlib. XCB should be faster than xlib and can use cairo as backend. But it is still at very early stage. XCB is now very stable and

Re: Window managers ( was Re: newbie question )

2009-04-23 Thread Yen-Ju Chen
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM, David Chisnall thera...@sucs.org wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 00:28, Yen-Ju Chen wrote:  I am also watching a new window manager called i3.  It is written in XCB, a supposed replacement for xlib.  XCB should be faster than xlib and can use cairo as backend.  But

GNUstep on DirectFB

2009-04-23 Thread Clement, Jason
I see some discussion about a port of GNUstep to DirectFB. Does anyone have a working implementation and code they can share? ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

compile problem: undefined symbol: XShmQueryVersion

2009-04-23 Thread 张韡武
Hi. Newbie again. More newbie = wider user base I tried to compile my own gnustep because the packages from Debian has only arts/cairo both are referred to as not stable or not fast for remote X. Besides I don't have to have the new features like freetype fonts. I compiled according to gnustep

XCB (Was Re: Window managers ( was Re: newbie question ))

2009-04-23 Thread Fred Kiefer
Hi David, could you please detail a bit on the benefits of an XCB backend compared to an Xlib one? As you already pointed out newer versions of Xlib are internally able to use XCB, so what can we gain by using it directly? Fred Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 23 Apr 2009

Re: XCB (Was Re: Window managers ( was Re: newbie question ))

2009-04-23 Thread David Chisnall
Hi Fred, On 23 Apr 2009, at 16:12, Fred Kiefer wrote: could you please detail a bit on the benefits of an XCB backend compared to an Xlib one? As you already pointed out newer versions of Xlib are internally able to use XCB, so what can we gain by using it directly? The big advantages

Re: compile problem: undefined symbol: XShmQueryVersion

2009-04-23 Thread Germán Arias
El jue, 23-04-2009 a las 23:04 +0800, 张韡武 escribió: Hi. Newbie again. More newbie = wider user base I compiled according to gnustep build guide, from gnustep-base, gnustep-gui, gnustep-back (with xlib options) and gworkspace. all compiles fine without error message. But newly compiled

Re: XCB (Was Re: Window managers ( was Re: newbie question ))

2009-04-23 Thread hns
On 23 Apr., 17:18, David Chisnall thera...@sucs.org wrote: Hi Fred, On 23 Apr 2009, at 16:12, Fred Kiefer wrote: could you please detail a bit on the benefits of an XCB backend   compared to an Xlib one? As you already pointed out newer versions of Xlib are internally   able to use

Re: XCB (Was Re: Window managers ( was Re: newbie question ))

2009-04-23 Thread hns
I should have mentioned that the main speed limit is doing alpha- blending on client side (Xrender does it where it belongs to: in the X server). This means grabbing some portion from the screen buffer on the server, sending over network, doing alpha blending, and sending back. So each pixel is

Re: GNUstep under VMware

2009-04-23 Thread Richard Danter
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 20:38 +0100, David Chisnall wrote: Which back end are you using, and is it correctly configured? Default installs seem to use art on Ubuntu, I tried cairo also, don't remember what it was for the GNUSTEP Live CD. Rich I typically use GNUstep via remote SSH either from

Re: XCB (Was Re: Window managers ( was Re: newbie question ))

2009-04-23 Thread Omniscient
On Apr 23, 10:12 pm, Fred Kiefer fredkie...@gmx.de wrote: Hi David, could you please detail a bit on the benefits of an XCB backend compared to an Xlib one? As you already pointed out newer versions of Xlib are internally able to use XCB, so what can we gain by using it directly? Fred