On Tuesday 10 November 2009, discuss-gnustep-requ...@gnu.org wrote:
The speed gain is done using the graphical interface builder (Gorm.app),
and by the greatly slim designed API, which allows you to achive all you
want with much less code:
Quote of the Booz-Allen Study
* took 100+
Hi,
ok, one final message on this subject from me.
My meaning of professional look have nothing with gray and dull.
Windows 2000 has professional look and feel, OPENSTEP has. Professional
GUI is a GUI which doesn't bother over time and don't take much
attention. And I feel that CDE GUI
Hi,
I'm one of them. I got interested into GNUstep also because of it looks.
I love windowmaker. It is the only thing I use on free Unices.
It is sleek, unobtrusive, professional. The same should be true for
GNUstep. GNUstep stuff is generally almost there, but there are drawing
glitches,
Hi,
The gray and dull has nothing to do with it but, rather, the lack of
glitter. I happen to work for a big company and while we use PCs with
Windows XP (using it's default theme), the tools made specifically for
us use the old Win NT look from the mid 90's. In fact one monitoring
tool
Hi,
1. Marketing to get people to give us a look.
To see what? A user interface that most people consider looking really dated?
Here are some numbers from the 2006 Linux Deskop Survey:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-
bin/survey/survey.cgi?view=archiveid=0821200617613
BlackBox 1.6 %
Hi,
I just completely disagree with your arguments here. So what if you like
eye-candy? Riccardo and Richard like the grey NeXT look, and using the
mailing list as the sample space I would say it's divided roughly 60/40 for
the NeXT look over the so called eye-candy.
My point is not that I
Hi,
Except I wasn't talking about code development with objc, I was
talking about making apps that are far more usable without necessarily
doing much more work to achieve this goal. The fact that those other
First of all, applications written by scientists / researchers are usually not
Hi,
first of all I am sorry that I spammed the list. Apparently I have a strong
opinion about the matter, but I might have offended people that work hard on
GNUstep and it might have been better to just shut up because my opinion
doesn't really matter anyway because I never contributed
Hi all,
In my strong opinion our target audience could be:
- NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP users who misses NS/OS look, feel and user experience
in general (I'm one of them);
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT: Sales of the NeXT computers were
relatively limited, with estimates of about 50,000
Hi,
In my experience, the simplest (one-liner!) and robustest solution was
indeed to send plist-serialised data over the wire -- both platforms
(GNUstep and OSX) support fast serialization/deserialisation to plist,
and as an added benefit this is easier to debug as the data is sent in
clear,
Hello,
I am trying to compile gnustep from svn and I get a link error:
GSspell.m:83: warning: value computed is not used
Linking service GSspell ...
Creating GSspell.service/Resources...
Creating GSspell.service/Resources/Info-gnustep.plist...
././obj/make_services: symbol lookup error:
Hello,
I am trying to compile gnustep from svn and I get a link error:
GSspell.m:83: warning: value computed is not used
Linking service GSspell ...
Creating GSspell.service/Resources...
Creating GSspell.service/Resources/Info-gnustep.plist...
././obj/make_services: symbol lookup error:
On Sunday 11 November 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I agree that a nice slogan can help focus ourselves and others.
All the proponents of GNUstep can then use it to explain to others
what GNUstep is in just a few words.
Do you seriously think people are using KDE or Gnome because they
Hi,
I think it is worth to mention SimpleWebKit here - a rough
implementation of
WebView, WebFrame, WebFrameView, WebDataSource etc. - completely
written
in Objective-C without any C++. The reason is that it must cross-
compile
on gcc 2.95.3 for some ARM processors.
Here is the source
Hi,
OMG! no way! Thats BIG!
I think i would rather start playing with expat and focus on xhtml and
other xml stuff.
There is also WebKitQt which is a port of WebKit to Qt. It can be built with
WebKit/WebKitTools/Scripts/build-webkit and there is QtLauncher, a simple
example browser. There
Hi,
I think you'll find that the systems which have the scroll bar on the
right are also more than 10 years old. There may have been advances made
in GUI's in the last ten years, but the position of the scroll bar is
not one of them.
It is probably not a good analogy but: In principle it
On Thursday 31 August 2006 23:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even XFCE, a pretty common environment, let's say the 3rd big usually
found in linux, doesn't have stuff like a mailer or a browser, you use
third party stuff. A windowmanager, a set of preferences, a bunch of
utilities, a dock and a
On Wednesday 30 August 2006 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True, especially regarding Gecko. However, using libwww WOULD be an
idea for writing a _very_ simple webbrowser. I was thinking about
that, using libwww as a bundle, so it could be easily replaced in case
WebKit (or something else
Whats keeping other developers from gnustep?
incomplete ide?
incomplete nextstep based system?
incomplete libraries?
i don't buy the general applications unavailability argument. we are
talking about people who want to create apps under gnustep.
I started developing for KDE because I
Hi,
I am new to Objective-C. I tried to compile one of the examples of Kochan's
book Programming in Objective-C:
#import stdio.h
#import objc/Object.h
@interface Fraction: Object
{
int numerator;
int denominator;
}
-(void) print;
-(void) setNumerator: (int) n;
-(void) setDenominator:
Hi,
try http://www.cc.utah.edu/~msh3/WildMenus-0.07.tgz
WildMenues actually works with Camaeleon. See
http://users.physik.tu-muenchen.de/mthaler/gnustep_plastik3.jpg
Can I adjust the color of the menu somehow? It doesn't fit into my theme at
all. It should have the same color as the menu
On Saturday 26 November 2005 12:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My idea of a good desktop follows along the nextstep design and thats
it. Did Steve Jobs intend nextstep to be a good citizen of other
desktops? I dont think so. I dont know about openstep but it seems
that its not a good citizen of
On Saturday 26 November 2005 16:54, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote:
Since I think we have easily the best look and feel on large/modern
displays, obviously changing the look/feel would be a BAD idea on
those systems. However, the rest I agree with ... we need themes for
Personally, I don't
On Saturday 26 November 2005 20:40, Nicolas Roard wrote:
Pretty cool, indeed ! is it a Camaelon theme ? care to make it available ?
:-) I should probably update properly the camaelon webpage and put the
available themes to download...
Yes, it is a Camaelon theme. Of course you can put it on
Hello,
I installed gnustep from Debian SID. The installation was really easy and gnustep works fine with windowmaker. Now I want to try to install Etoile. I have the following gnustep packages installed:
dpkg -l|grep gnustep
ii gnustep3 The GNUstep Development Environment
On Monday 14 February 2005 22:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's NOT just for the sake of distinctiveness. Read the damn UI
guidelines and you'll actually understand why. They're posted at
http://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/OpenStepUserInterfaceGuideli
nes.pdf and you clearly have
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