Re: Installing libs-gdl2 on FreeBSD 12.2

2021-12-21 Thread David Wetzel
Hello everyone! > Am 2021-12-21 um 16:17 schrieb Edwin Ancaer : > > David, > > I wanted to try out GSWeb, but I did not know it was independent of GDL2. > So then gdl2 is not really an issue anymore. Compare your config.mak to mine (I did not touch it in some time but it

Re: Installing libs-gdl2 on FreeBSD 12.2

2021-12-21 Thread Edwin Ancaer
David, I wanted to try out GSWeb, but I did not know it was independent of GDL2. So then gdl2 is not really an issue anymore. Just to be sure, I upgraded to 12.3, installed the latest versions of base, make,gui and back and the issue is still there, in a totally unimportant way. Thanks, Edwin

Re: Installing libs-gdl2 on FreeBSD 12.2

2021-12-20 Thread David Wetzel
> Am 2021-12-20 um 03:45 schrieb Edwin Ancaer : > > > Hello, > > I wanted to install gdl2 on FreeBSD 12.2, doing I think it makes more sense to move to FreeBSD 12.3 before wasting time on a non-supported version. Did you install make and base recently? I can try d

Installing libs-gdl2 on FreeBSD 12.2

2021-12-20 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello, I wanted to install gdl2 on FreeBSD 12.2, doing git clone https://github.com/gnustep/libs-gdl2.git ./configure gmake This resulted in an error: Making all for subproject Inspectors... Linking subproject Inspectors ... cc: warning: argument unused during compilation: '-pthread' [-Wunused

Compiling libs-gdl2 on FreeBSD 12.2 gives error

2021-12-20 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello, I did the following: *;

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-06-02 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Dave, Matt, I added the -i flag, the resultt be a little disappointing: [00:02:05] Entering interactive test mode. Type 'exit' when done. FreeBSD ?.?.? (UNKNOWN) Welcome to FreeBSD! Release Notes, Errata: https://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/ Security Advisories:

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-06-02 Thread Matt Rice
In addition to what David says, also try with make messages=yes (assuming that is still a thing) my guess would be that perhaps it occurs running plmerge when building the .app plists. On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 3:10 AM David Chisnall wrote: > > Hi, > > That's quite an exciting error. It looks as

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-06-02 Thread David Chisnall
Hi, That's quite an exciting error. It looks as if the build is fine, the install is fine, the checks that the plist match the things in the stage directory are all fine, and then something is crashing while building the package. I've never seen this before. Can you add a -i flag to your

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-29 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello guys, one last request before I return to gardening: it seems that the above error only occurs with the poudriere port that I try to create. I can build all other gnustep ports without problems. I attached the Makefile, pkg-descr, pkg-plist and distinfo for the port. If someone could have

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-29 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Reading Davids answer, I realize I did not explain well what was the problem. The error occurred during the at the execution of the poudriere testport command, giving a following logfile: === =>> Recording filesystem state

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-27 Thread David Chisnall
On 27 May 2019, at 12:07, Edwin Ancaer wrote: > > The one haunting me now is the fact that I have to run the poudriere command > to test my port for renaissance as root and that for root, the GNUStep > environment is not defined. > You have to run poudriere as root, but then it will source

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-27 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
> On 27 May 2019, at 12:07, Edwin Ancaer wrote: > > Hello, > > the linker problem is solved as was described by David. But as my knowledge > of FreeBSD / Unix is limited, every new problem is taking lots of time to > investigate. > > The one haunting me now is the fact that I have to run

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-27 Thread Edwin Ancaer
ntioned earlier, or is this something > that can be solved by changing the code? > > just to let you know: I compiled renaissance, gdl2 and GSWeb under Debian > 9 using this setup: > https://github.com/plaurent/gnustep-build/blob/master/debian-9-clang-8.0-runtime-2.0/GNUstep-buildo

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-26 Thread Johannes Brakensiek
Hi Edwin, Am 24.05.19 um 00:20 schrieb Edwin Ancaer: > Is this the linker problem David mentioned earlier, or is this > something that can be solved by changing the code? just to let you know: I compiled renaissance, gdl2 and GSWeb under Debian 9 using this setup: https://github.com/pl

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-24 Thread David Chisnall
On 23 May 2019, at 23:20, Edwin Ancaer wrote: > > Is this the linker problem David mentioned earlier, or is this something that > can be solved by changing the code? > Can you try setting LLD_UNSAFE (I think that’s the flag) in the port Makefile? There are a few Objective-C things that

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-23 Thread Matt Rice
install the ones you want. On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:03 AM Matt Rice wrote: > > You should be able to use --disable-gui-projects, see here: > https://github.com/gnustep/libs-gdl2/blob/master/configure.ac#L72-L80 > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 10:20 PM Edwin Ancaer wrot

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-23 Thread Matt Rice
You should be able to use --disable-gui-projects, see here: https://github.com/gnustep/libs-gdl2/blob/master/configure.ac#L72-L80 On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 10:20 PM Edwin Ancaer wrote: > > Fred, > > thank you for the reply. Indeed, building gdl2 without DBModel would be the > solu

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-23 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Fred, thank you for the reply. Indeed, building gdl2 without DBModel would be the solution that comes to mind. But doesn't that mean that I will have to change the configuration file of gdl2? Something I would have to do locally, and repeat if any updates are made to gdl2? I will keep

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-23 Thread David Chisnall
That looks fine. Don't forget to re-run make makesum, because now the size and hash of the upstream source have changed. David On 22/05/2019 17:42, Edwin Ancaer wrote: Hello David, thanks again for helping.  I changed GH_TAGNAME from gdl2-0_12_0 to d5f0d94, what I thought were the first 7

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-22 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello David, thanks again for helping. I changed GH_TAGNAME from gdl2-0_12_0 to d5f0d94, what I thought were the first 7 characters from the commit hash, but apparently I'm wrong, because I got an error: root@ottopedi:/usr/local/poudriere/ports/head/databases/gdl2 # make makesum => gnustep-l

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-22 Thread David Chisnall
On 21/05/2019 20:32, Fred Kiefer wrote: That would be 2009, ten years ago, yes this could fit to the errors you are getting. In part this is our problem as no release was done in the time in between. Still could you please switch to the master branch and only report issues for that branch?

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread Fred Kiefer
should just ignore this subdirectory and just build the rest of gdl2. Hope this helps, Fred > Am 21.05.2019 um 20:38 schrieb Edwin Ancaer : > > Fred, > > I 'think' I used release 0_12_0 of libs-gdl2 in the gnustep account on Github. > > However, when I cloned the git-rep

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Fred, I 'think' I used release 0_12_0 of libs-gdl2 in the gnustep account on Github. However, when I cloned the git-repository, I downloaded the same version, and when I ddi configure and make, got an error about a missing Renaissance header. Not quite the same as the build I did in poudriere

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread Fred Kiefer
Hi, could you please explain where you did get your version of the source code of gdl2 from? I just compiled the code from git and did not get any of the errors you reported. Of course I was using gcc so I first thought that it is just a picky compiler complaining. But when I looked through

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread David Chisnall
, someone will have to make the changes David propose in gnustep/libs-gdl2, and there probably will be more to come. Is there a maintainer for this repository I should contact? As the proposed changes are rather easy, I don't mind doing them myself, but then I would like some explanation on the  best

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hi, I don't know the right procedures to handle this: obviously, someone will have to make the changes David propose in gnustep/libs-gdl2, and there probably will be more to come. Is there a maintainer for this repository I should contact? As the proposed changes are rather easy, I don't mind

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread Edwin Ancaer
David, sorry for the name, I indeed copied the simpleagenda Makefile, and did not think about changing the maintainer. I made the changes you suggested in the Makefile. I have a jail and a port in to create my packages in poudriere, but I was following the steps in the porters handbook, and

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread David Ayers
Am Dienstag, den 21.05.2019, 09:10 +0100 schrieb David Chisnall: > - You've set GNU_CONFIGURE, does GDL actually use autoconf? Yes, it is used to build the PostgreSQL database adaptor AFAIR. -- David Ayers - Team Austria Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) [] (http://www.fsfe.org)

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread David Chisnall
Ooops, hit sent too soon: On 21/05/2019 08:26, Edwin Ancaer wrote: In file included from ../EOControl/EOQualifier.h:36: ../EOControl/EOKeyValueArchiver.h:84:3: error: unknown type name 'NSMutableArray'   NSMutableArray *_allUnarchivedObjects;   ^ It looks as if EOKeyBalueArchiver.h is

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread David Chisnall
a bit surprised the ports system builds at all without it. - Please set yourself as the maintainer, not me. - You've set GNU_CONFIGURE, does GDL actually use autoconf? - Please don't put the libs- prefix in the ports name. gdl2 is fine. - The $FreeBSD$ tag at the top is incorrect (it looks

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-21 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello all, I do not want to look impatient, but as the best way to learn is to try it yourself, I tried to use the ports system, to locally create a port for gdl2 (Makefile is attached). I generated the distinfo file with the makesum command (result also attached), but then, when using make

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-19 Thread Edwin Ancaer
David, If you could create the packages, I t would be my pleasure to try to maintain them. I might need some help to get started though. Thanks, ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-19 Thread David Chisnall
to debug this today or later in the week. David > On 19 May 2019, at 08:22, Edwin Ancaer wrote: > > Hello, > > I've been searching for ports for GDL2 and GSWeb, but did not find them. > > Can someone confirm they do not exist, or give the names of the ports > othe

Re: FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-19 Thread Andreas Fink
ration specific stuff directly. But thats why we have libobjc/Gnustep-base etc to abstract that for our applications, So I would be suprised if you run into any major issues. > On 19 May 2019, at 09:22, Edwin Ancaer wrote: > > Hello, > > I've been searching for ports for GD

FreeBSD ports for GDL2 and GSWeb

2019-05-19 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello, I've been searching for ports for GDL2 and GSWeb, but did not find them. Can someone confirm they do not exist, or give the names of the ports otherwise. I tried with gdl2, gsweb, gnustepweb. If they don't exist, is this just because nobody has been interested? I ask because

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-06-11 Thread Mark Clements
dded code here > > I consider these real failures, since the removal of the hacks, gdl2 > no longer even conforms to the class hierarchy e.g.. > > http://mirror.informatimago.com/next/developer.apple.com/documentation/LegacyTechnologies/WebObjects/WebObjects_4.5/System/Library/Frameworks/EOCo

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-06-09 Thread Matt Rice
res, since the removal of the hacks, gdl2 no longer even conforms to the class hierarchy e.g.. http://mirror.informatimago.com/next/developer.apple.com/documentation/LegacyTechnologies/WebObjects/WebObjects_4.5/System/Library/Frameworks/EOControl.framework/Java/Classes/EOClassDescription.html https://

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-06-09 Thread Mark Clements
Next up for the gdl2 testsuite, the EOModel/ModelEditing.m file fails with: "EOModel(instance) does not recognize awakeFromInsertionInEditingContext:" from line 80 calling the -insertObject method. Line 83 would also fail with "EOEntity(instance) doe

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-06-07 Thread Matt Rice
not really going to oppose it, if you want to go this route, or anyone pushes back against nested sets. On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Mark Clements <mark.cleme...@ki.se> wrote: > Next up: the gdl2 testsuite was failing for some files with nested > TEST_SET's, with errors for "

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-06-07 Thread Ivan Vučica
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Mark Clements <mark.cleme...@ki.se> wrote: > Next up: the gdl2 testsuite was failing for some files with nested > TEST_SET's, with errors for "message sent to deallocated instance". Is > it obvious why the nesting does this? > &g

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-06-07 Thread Mark Clements
Next up: the gdl2 testsuite was failing for some files with nested TEST_SET's, with errors for "message sent to deallocated instance". Is it obvious why the nesting does this? If we remove the nested sets, then we resolve the "deallocated instance" errors. Proposed patch attac

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-06-06 Thread Mark Clements
See attached for an improved patch on quoting. This gives similar tests successes for both quoted and unquoted external names. -- Mark On 06/05/2017 10:00 PM, Mark Clements wrote: > Please see attached for a patch to fix quoting of column names and > Postgresql sequences. I have also included a

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-06-05 Thread Mark Clements
ched which sets >> _flags.protoOverride and updates the propertyList at the start of >> -initWithPropertyList:owner. This replaces my patch from yesterday. >> >> -- Mark >> >> On 05/18/2017 10:50 PM, Mark Clements wrote: >>> Thanks for accepting my earlier patch on the GDL2 test suit

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-06-05 Thread Mark Clements
for accepting my earlier patch on the GDL2 test suite. As a reminder, GDL2 has prototypes for different types of attributes: the prototypes are used to set properties when those properties have not already been specified for an attribute. The prototypes are specific to an EOAdaptor. The current issue is tha

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-05-19 Thread Mark Clements
, Mark Clements wrote: > Thanks for accepting my earlier patch on the GDL2 test suite. > > As a reminder, GDL2 has prototypes for different types of attributes: > the prototypes are used to set properties when those properties have not > already been specified for an attribute.

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-05-18 Thread Mark Clements
Thanks for accepting my earlier patch on the GDL2 test suite. As a reminder, GDL2 has prototypes for different types of attributes: the prototypes are used to set properties when those properties have not already been specified for an attribute. The prototypes are specific to an EOAdaptor

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-05-14 Thread Fred Kiefer
Hi Mark, thank you very much for this fix on the gdl2 tests. I have applied this patch. The only thing I did change was instead of commenting out the TEST_EXCEPTION macros I replaced them with the newer PASS_EXCEPTION calls. Cheers, Fred Am 02.05.2017 um 07:49 schrieb Mark Clements: > I h

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-05-02 Thread Mark Clements
This was a puzzling link error. I then noticed that modules/dev-libs/gdl2/Examples/GNUmakefile uses ADDITIONAL_NATIVE_LIBS=EOAccess EOControl which had a different order to the testsuite. This change surprisingly fixed the problem on my machine. My local (conservative) environment is Linux

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-05-02 Thread Matt Rice
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Mark Clements <mark.cleme...@ki.se> wrote: > I have had a first attempt at getting the testsuite working with GDL2. Cool, > + Change ADDITIONAL_NATIVE_LIBS+=EOControl EOAccess to > ADDITIONAL_NATIVE_LIBS+=EOAccess EOControl (?) Which os/libc/et

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-05-02 Thread Matt Rice
will try and get everything set up. On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Mark Clements <mark.cleme...@ki.se> wrote: > To add to this, I have now attached the tests.log file. > > There is one failed test under > gdl2/EOKeyValueCoding/EOKeyValueCoding00.m. The test is: > > S

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-05-01 Thread Mark Clements
I have now attached a diff file for these changes. Kindly, Mark. On 05/01/2017 11:25 PM, Mark Clements wrote: > I have had a first attempt at getting the testsuite working with GDL2. > > It seems to have been a while since the GDL2 testsuite was updated (see > patch below). Sugge

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-05-01 Thread Mark Clements
I have had a first attempt at getting the testsuite working with GDL2. It seems to have been a while since the GDL2 testsuite was updated (see patch below). Suggested changes include: + Bug fixes on labelling + Change -cString to -UTF8String + Change sel_eq to sel_isEqual + Change #include

Re: GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-04-28 Thread Matt Rice
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:21 AM, Mark Clements <mark.cleme...@ki.se> wrote: > I am new to Objective C and GNUstep - and interested in GDL2. > > Using https://github.com/gnustep/gdl2 and gcc 4.8.4, I have been working with > the Trading example with PostgreSQL and ran into a

GDL2: prototypes and EOAttribute.m

2017-04-28 Thread Mark Clements
I am new to Objective C and GNUstep - and interested in GDL2. Using https://github.com/gnustep/gdl2 and gcc 4.8.4, I have been working with the Trading example with PostgreSQL and ran into a bug: Examples/Trading/obj/createTradingDB: Uncaught exception PostgreSQLException, reason: SQL

Re: GDL2 Postgres defining a sequence differently?

2015-06-22 Thread Matt Rice
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Edwin Ancaer eanc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, is it possible that GDL2 names a sequence as tablename_seq, while postgresl names a sequence as tablename_fieldname_seq? Hello, Are you using +[EOSchemaGeneration dropPrimaryKeySupportStatementsForEntityGroup

GDL2 Postgres defining a sequence differently?

2015-06-21 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello, is it possible that GDL2 names a sequence as tablename_seq, while postgresl names a sequence as tablename_fieldname_seq? Whith psql, I get psql (9.3.6) Type help for help. MultiDB= \d List of relations Schema | Name | Type | Owner

Re: Using ProjectCenter for applications with gdl2

2015-06-19 Thread Matt Rice
Hi Edwin, sorry I can't really help with this i'm not at all familiar with Project Center, FWIW, I had started on getting GDL2 project types as a bundle working in Project Manager, which is what the patch/thread linked below is for... Unfortunately i never quite followed up on it, And unsure

Re: Using ProjectCenter for applications with gdl2

2015-06-19 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Ancaer escribió: Hello, I have a small practical question. When linking my aplication, in which I use gdl2, i need to add ADDITIONAL_NATIVE_LIBS += EOControl EOAccess EOInterface to GNUmakefile.preamble, otherwise, I get linker errors. The problem is that ProjectCenter keeps rewriting

Re: Using ProjectCenter for applications with gdl2

2015-06-17 Thread Riccardo Mottola
HI, On 06/16/15 15:37, Edwin Ancaer wrote: Hello, I have a small practical question. When linking my aplication, in which I use gdl2, i need to add ADDITIONAL_NATIVE_LIBS += EOControl EOAccess EOInterface to GNUmakefile.preamble, otherwise, I get linker errors. The problem

Using ProjectCenter for applications with gdl2

2015-06-16 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello, I have a small practical question. When linking my aplication, in which I use gdl2, i need to add ADDITIONAL_NATIVE_LIBS += EOControl EOAccess EOInterface to GNUmakefile.preamble, otherwise, I get linker errors. The problem is that ProjectCenter keeps rewriting this file before building

GDL2 problem

2015-06-13 Thread Edwin Ancaer
I created an application , and tried to integrate some code I found in http://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/GDL2/GDL2Intro.pdf. The code (sloppy, with unused variables) in ApplicationDidFinishLaiunching looks as follows: *- (void

Re: GDL2 problem

2015-06-13 Thread Matt Rice
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:37 AM, Edwin Ancaer eanc...@gmail.com wrote: Replace @Persons by @persons in authorsDS = [[EODatabaseDataSource alloc] initWithEditingContext: ec entityName:@persons]; and the error goes away, you old fool. And go get yourself another rubber duck But I still

Re: GDL2 problem

2015-06-13 Thread Edwin Ancaer
the globalModelGroup is somewhere available for all EOF classes... 2015-06-13 10:18 GMT+02:00 Edwin Ancaer eanc...@gmail.com: I created an application , and tried to integrate some code I found in http://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/GDL2/GDL2Intro.pdf. The code (sloppy, with unused

Re: GDL2 compilation errors

2015-05-01 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Seems that I had 2 versions of GDL2. And I used the wrong one. My apologies David, for the unnecessary questions. I used github to download my most recent version of GDL2, and indeed, everything went OK. In the downloads, I seem to use github and svn: is there a problem in mixing applications

Re: GDL2 compilation errors

2015-04-30 Thread David Chisnall
On 30 Apr 2015, at 14:42, Edwin Ancaer eanc...@gmail.com wrote: EOGenericRecord.m:1526:19: error: incomplete definition of type 'struct objc_class' size = selfClass-instance_size; EOGenericRecord.m:1622:26: error: incomplete definition of type 'struct objc_class' size

GDL2 compilation errors

2015-04-30 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello I just downloaded GDL2, and tried to compile it (I'm using Clang 3.4, and libobjc2). I got the following compilation errors: EOGenericRecord.m:1526:19: error: incomplete definition of type 'struct objc_class' size = selfClass-instance_size; EOGenericRecord.m:1622:26: error

Re: GDL2 compilation errors

2015-04-30 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 30.04.2015 um 15:42 schrieb Edwin Ancaer: Hello I just downloaded GDL2, and tried to compile it (I'm using Clang 3.4, and libobjc2). I got the following compilation errors: EOGenericRecord.m:1526:19: error: incomplete definition of type 'struct objc_class' size

Re: GDL2 compilation errors

2015-04-30 Thread Edwin Ancaer
David, indeed, it is working now. Thanks. I've got a new problem now: ../EOControl/EOQualifier.h:239:12: error: cannot define category for undefined class 'NSArray' @interface NSArray (EOQualifierExtras) There is indeed a category definition at the end of the file EOQualifier.h, on the

Re: GDL2 compilation errors

2015-04-30 Thread David Chisnall
On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:31, Edwin Ancaer eanc...@gmail.com wrote: David, indeed, it is working now. Thanks. I've got a new problem now: ../EOControl/EOQualifier.h:239:12: error: cannot define category for undefined class 'NSArray' @interface NSArray (EOQualifierExtras) There

Re: GDL2

2015-04-28 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello, this is what I wanted to type the first time: would it be wise to use GDL2 in a project to access a Postgresql database, or are their better options avalable. And the same question goes for GNUstepWeb. I have the impression these applications *haven't been updated* recently (maybe

GDL2

2015-04-28 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello, would it be wise to use GDL2 in a project to access a Postgresql database, or are their better options avalable. And the same question goes for GNUstepWeb. I have the impression these applications havebeen updated (maybe because they are still well enough). Kind regards, Edwin Ancaer

Re: GDL2

2015-04-28 Thread David Wetzel
...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, this is what I wanted to type the first time: would it be wise to use GDL2 in a project to access a Postgresql database, or are their better options avalable. And the same question goes for GNUstepWeb. I have the impression these applications haven't

Re: FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-31 Thread Wolfgang Lux
Am 31.01.2014 um 03:50 schrieb Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de: Am 31.01.2014 00:44, schrieb Ivan Vučica: Note I didn't look at your patches, and will not get involved in Debian packaging Thank you for putting this into the beginning. This saved me from reading the rest and confirms the

Re: FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-31 Thread Niels Grewe
Am 31.01.2014 um 00:34 schrieb Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de: Am 30.01.2014 20:58, schrieb Niels Grewe: There’s a well known phrase coined by the philosopher Neil Wilson called the ‘principle of charity’. It means that you should always assume the most favourable interpretation of another

Re: FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-31 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 31.01.2014 10:28, schrieb Wolfgang Lux: Come on Markus. I appreciate your attempts on improving GNUstep, but insulting other people and calling them hostile just because they do not agree with your opinions or have different use cases is never a good start to put anything forward. I don't

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-31 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 31.01.2014 01:00, schrieb James Carthew: Frankly, I don't give a damn about filesystem layout. The only thing I care about with GNUstep is applications. Apps are what matters. That and API completeness. Well, go ahead and compile/install the stuff. If you want it packaged, filesystem layout

Re: FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-31 Thread Ivan Vučica
Sorry if you prefer to think I was hostile, instead of back from work, being tired, not actively working on gnustep-make and only trying to explain that lack of focus on your particular issues or understanding of your particular issues does not mean hostility or rejection :-) But because you're

Re: FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-31 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 31.01.2014 11:35, schrieb Ivan Vučica: In fact, come; come for a big hug :-) *hugs* ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-31 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 30 Jan 2014, at 19:58, Niels Grewe niels.gr...@halbordnung.de wrote: Am 30.01.2014 um 18:25 schrieb Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de: There’s a well known phrase coined by the philosopher Neil Wilson called the ‘principle of charity’. It means that you should always assume the most

Re: FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-31 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 31.01.2014 13:38, schrieb Richard Frith-Macdonald: 2. The resources have to be split upon architecture dependency lines ... ie architecture dependent stuff has to go in 'lib' and architecture independent stuff in 'share'. This is probably where the FHS vs Bundles idea comes from ... a

Re: FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-31 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 31.01.2014 13:38, schrieb Richard Frith-Macdonald: A better solution would be to extend gnustep-make and gnustep-base to support the separation, extending the existing filesystem layout code to be a little more fine-grained; Thinking about this a bit ... isn't it possible/allowed to nest

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
Hi, On Thursday, January 30, 2014 00:00 CET, Tito Mari Francis Escaño titomarifran...@gmail.com wrote: Good day everyone at the GNUstep community, I've been watching this project since 1990s and wonder why there hasn't been a release of more up-to-date packages, especially the GDL2

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Tito! Tito Mari Francis Escaño wrote: Good day everyone at the GNUstep community, I've been watching this project since 1990s and wonder why there hasn't been a release of more up-to-date packages, especially the GDL2 and Renaissance packages which I think are very important

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 30.01.2014 00:00, schrieb Tito Mari Francis Escaño: I've been watching this project since 1990s and wonder why there hasn't been a release of more up-to-date packages Some of the reasons: - GNUstep puts much emphasis on manual installation. - It isn't really packageable, because GNUstep

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Niels Grewe
Am 30.01.2014 um 09:41 schrieb Riccardo Mottola riccardo.mott...@libero.it: Thanks for the kind words. It is nice to see somebody praising the Bastion of true OpenStep while most people usually seek better GNOME or KDE integration. You use no light works calling them infesting :) Lately the

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread David Chisnall
On 30 Jan 2014, at 12:47, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: - GNUstep puts much emphasis on manual installation. Not true. We're happy to engage with packagers. It is true that we aim to make manual installation easy, because packages are useless to GNUstep contributors, who (obviously)

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Niels Grewe
Hi Marcus, Am 30.01.2014 um 13:47 schrieb Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de: - It isn't really packageable, because GNUstep insists on a framework/bundle centric installation, while about all non-Mac-OS-X unices insist on a FHS-type file layout. I personally prefer the ‘framework/bundle centric

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 30.01.2014 13:59, schrieb David Chisnall: - GNUstep puts much emphasis on manual installation. Not true. Thank you for confirming my experience and starting yet the next flamewar. Markus -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter http://www.reprap-diy.com/

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 30.01.2014 14:06, schrieb Niels Grewe: we do in fact support a FHS compatible filesystem layout We don't. At least not in a usable state. Confirmed with many people who tried to package. Markus -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread David Chisnall
On 30 Jan 2014, at 13:39, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: Am 30.01.2014 13:59, schrieb David Chisnall: - GNUstep puts much emphasis on manual installation. Not true. Thank you for confirming my experience and starting yet the next flamewar. It is not starting a flame war to reply

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Niels Grewe
Am 30.01.2014 um 14:40 schrieb Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de: Am 30.01.2014 14:06, schrieb Niels Grewe: we do in fact support a FHS compatible filesystem layout We don't. At least not in a usable state. Confirmed with many people who tried to package. Please bear with me, Markus. If

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 30.01.2014 14:44, schrieb David Chisnall: when someone posts inaccurate and insulting mischaracterisations of the project to the list. If you believe that it is a flame war when someone calls you out for posting nonsense Perhaps I should have been clearer. I actually did try to package

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 13:59 CET, David Chisnall thera...@sucs.org wrote: On 30 Jan 2014, at 12:47, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: - GNUstep puts much emphasis on manual installation. Not true. We're happy to engage with packagers. It is true that we aim to make

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 30.01.2014 14:46, schrieb Niels Grewe: If there are issues with it, please help us identify them. The most troublesome parts are the requirement for GNUstep.sh, the existence of GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES and GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DOMAIN and the apparent lack of a concept to deal with bundle files

FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-30 Thread Niels Grewe
Am 30.01.2014 um 14:57 schrieb Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de: Am 30.01.2014 14:44, schrieb David Chisnall: when someone posts inaccurate and insulting mischaracterisations of the project to the list. If you believe that it is a flame war when someone calls you out for posting nonsense

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Niels Grewe wrote: Sorry, but since I have worked a lot on integration between GNUstep and ‘foreign’ desktop environments in the past few years, I feel compelled to comment on this: I think it is ill-advised to draw too stark an opposition between ‘true OpenStep’ and the likes of

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Niels Grewe
Hi Riccardo, Am 30.01.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Riccardo Mottola riccardo.mott...@libero.it: Hi, Niels Grewe wrote: Sorry, but since I have worked a lot on integration between GNUstep and ‘foreign’ desktop environments in the past few years, I feel compelled to comment on this: I think it

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 30.01.2014 15:08, schrieb Sebastian Reitenbach: OpenBSD packages are using something very similar to the FHS layout and it works great. To all I can see, what GNUstep calls a FHS layout is just stuffing frameworks into /usr/lib instead of /Library and similar. Bundle-type layout is kept,

Re: FHS filesystem layout issues [was: Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance]

2014-01-30 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 30.01.2014 15:42, schrieb Niels Grewe: 1. I don’t understand why you are not reporting these problems to the list or the bug tracker. A couple of reasons: - Looking at this -make documentation failure bug report, the very first answer from a developer was to close the bug. Later it was

Re: Request for update and/or release of GDL2 and Renaissance

2014-01-30 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 17:08 CET, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: Am 30.01.2014 15:08, schrieb Sebastian Reitenbach: OpenBSD packages are using something very similar to the FHS layout and it works great. To all I can see, what GNUstep calls a FHS layout is just stuffing

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