Re: GNUstep Bi-Monthly Meeting

2024-06-04 Thread Gregory Casamento
Hey guys. I will, of course, be there. I’m looking forward to seeing all of you. Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https

Re: GNUstep Bi-Monthly Meeting

2024-06-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Lars, lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de wrote: Who will participate? I hope, this reminder comes early enough the reminder is early, but as as I anticipated privately to some of you, I will probably not make it. Perhaps just a short drop. It will be my birthday and that date has been

Re: GNUstep Bi-Monthly Meeting

2024-06-03 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
> On 3 Jun 2024, at 16:45, lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de wrote: > > Hello dear GNUsteppers and friends, > > > IIRC, upcoming Saturday is our next GNUstep Bi-Monthly Meeting, 08.06.2024 > 18:00 CEST (GMT+2) > > It is usually a somewhat relaxed Video-Ca

GNUstep Bi-Monthly Meeting

2024-06-03 Thread lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
Hello dear GNUsteppers and friends,IIRC, upcoming Saturday is our next GNUstep Bi-Monthly Meeting, 08.06.2024 18:00 CEST (GMT+2)It is usually a somewhat relaxed Video-Call between the participants, there are also news and some organizing stuff is talked about.Who will participate? I hope

Re: [gnustep/apps-gorm] Release gorm-1_4_0 - gorm-1_4_0

2024-05-30 Thread lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
Tweet about the GNUstep release? https://x.com/search?q=GNUstep=live=default Kind regards, Lars > Am 30.05.2024 um 08:01 schrieb Gregory Casamento : > > Release of Gorm. > > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant > http://

Fwd: [gnustep/apps-gorm] Release gorm-1_4_0 - gorm-1_4_0

2024-05-30 Thread Gregory Casamento
Release of Gorm. Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux

Re: GNUstep Discord

2024-04-16 Thread Ethan C
if you like... https://discord.gg/UX3WxBZ2 Yours, GC -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c - O

GNUstep Discord

2024-04-16 Thread Gregory Casamento
Please join if you like... https://discord.gg/UX3WxBZ2 Yours, GC -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://www.openhub.net/languages

Re: Notes on GNUstep meeting

2024-04-14 Thread Gregory Casamento
a thourough testing of all changes that were commited lately. I > Wrote a separate mail about that > * Updates from Hugo about libobcj2 and agreed to do again work on NetBSD > support > * Marco shared a lot of his enthusiasm about GNUstep, shared his screen > and showed off some of his

Notes on GNUstep meeting

2024-04-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
the end of May, to allow for code freeze and a thourough testing of all changes that were commited lately. I Wrote a separate mail about that * Updates from Hugo about libobcj2 and agreed to do again work on NetBSD support * Marco shared a lot of his enthusiasm about GNUstep, shared his screen

Re: Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Fred! a pity you and Gregory couldn't make it. It was a nice meeting... I participated for 1h48' even if I had to procastinate dinner with my parents a little. Fred Kiefer wrote: I cannot make it on Saturday. We have an invitation from friends and I won’t be back in time. My point for

Re: Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-12 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 at 11:28, Gregory Casamento wrote: > > Noted. I will do that next time. I suppose I made the mistake of thinking > that timezones were a universal concept. Timezones are. US timezones aren't. It's only in my mid-40s I even had to start learning the names of the US ones,

Re: Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-12 Thread Gregory Casamento
argument about Fahrenheit, I got what you were saying. Yours, GC Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c

Re: Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-12 Thread Liam Proven
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 at 08:37, Gregory Casamento wrote: > > Anybody is welcome. Please come!!! Error: not in America, do not speak American timezones. I have to Google it _every single time_. Please, for the ROTW, remember to add in UTC or GMT because everyone knows how far they are away from

Re: Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-12 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
> On 12 Apr 2024, at 10:41, Fred Kiefer wrote: > > I cannot make it on Saturday. We have an invitation from friends and I won’t > be back in time. > > My point for the discussion would be the same as last time, to prepare a > shared release of all core libraries. My contribution could be

Re: Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-12 Thread Fred Kiefer
come. Please come!!! > > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron > https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c - OpenHub standings

Re: Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-11 Thread Joseph Maloney
Thank you.  I am adding this to my calendar, and I will try to join if I can. Joseph Maloney Sent with Proton Mail secure email.

Re: Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-11 Thread Gregory Casamento
Saturday!!! Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c - OpenHub standings On Thu, Apr 11, 2024

Reminder!!! GNUstep meeting 12:30-1:30est

2024-04-11 Thread Gregory Casamento
Jitsi Meeting - https://meet.jit.si/TheatricalNecessitiesFormulateNotably Anybody is welcome. Please come!!! Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become

Re: General Design Guidelines for GNUstep and apps

2024-04-04 Thread Ondrej Florian
On 2024-04-04 09:07:36 +0200 Thomas wrote: As Ricardo mentioned could you test wether this strange menu behavior is caused by GDSE please or is there another reason? The reason why this doesn't work is missing support from the window manager (windowmaker). 1. GNUstep will send out

Re: General Design Guidelines for GNUstep and apps

2024-04-04 Thread Thomas
omething like D-bus for IPC for > example. > > What makes GSDE cool is its simplicity. All of its consistency and power > comes from the GNUstep foundation (e.g. services, NSNotifications, global key > shortcuts, steptalk, etc.). > > However, this is only possible because all

Re: General Design Guidelines for GNUstep and apps

2024-04-03 Thread Ondrej Florian
Hi Thomas, I am afraid creating modern, OSX-like desktop would require very different approach than GSDE is taking. Using Wayland, process separation and something like D-bus for IPC for example. What makes GSDE cool is its simplicity. All of its consistency and power comes from the GNUstep

Re: General Design Guidelines for GNUstep and apps

2024-04-03 Thread Thomas
t;> as I play around with GSDE I noticed that there are some differences between >> the usage of the apps. >> >> Does a Design Guideline for GNUstep exists (as Apple has(d))? > > Not really, but we rely essentially on OpenStep behaviour, since that is the > default &

Re: General Design Guidelines for GNUstep and apps

2024-04-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Thomas, Thomas wrote: Hello, as I play around with GSDE I noticed that there are some differences between the usage of the apps. Does a Design Guideline for GNUstep exists (as Apple has(d))? Not really, but we rely essentially on OpenStep behaviour, since that is the default "

Re: General Design Guidelines for GNUstep and apps

2024-04-03 Thread Thomas
Hi Ondrej, I would very very appriciate if these menus "hide others", "show all" or "quit“ and so on would stay and work GSDE wide in a uniform way :-). In my opinion you addressing one main reason for the tiny userbase GNUstep has. There is noch easy to use, comfort

Re: General Design Guidelines for GNUstep and apps

2024-04-02 Thread Ondrej Florian
Hi Thomas, As GNUstep is platform independent, there is no specific design guideline. Many applications will use menu items, shortcut keys etc. that fit particular platform (Windows / OS X or Linux) GNUmail or PikoPixel is good example of that. GSDE and Nextspace follow Next/OpenStep design

General Design Guidelines for GNUstep and apps

2024-03-28 Thread Thomas
Hello, as I play around with GSDE I noticed that there are some differences between the usage of the apps. Does a Design Guideline for GNUstep exists (as Apple has(d))? So at macos every app from the Finder to the smallest app has the (standard) menue points: hide, hide others, show all

Re: GNUstep blogs update

2024-03-13 Thread Gregory Casamento
efunct" or archived blogs. This way the user knows they are no longer active. Riccardo > GC -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org <https://mailtrack.io/l/cb73cfa008ab1390d5697617398936ee70e7b59a?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnustep.or

Re: GNUstep blogs update

2024-03-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Svetlana Tkachenko wrote: Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20180318120215/http://gnustep.blogspot.com/ Older posts link is broken, but the ones in sidebar half-work. pointing to an archived blog is defying the goal of a blog, IMHO... except if there is some specific precious

Re: GNUstep blogs update

2024-03-12 Thread Svetlana Tkachenko
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20180318120215/http://gnustep.blogspot.com/ Older posts link is broken, but the ones in sidebar half-work.

GNUstep blogs update

2024-03-12 Thread Riccardo Mottola
as archive, but a bit stale. Some are non-existing anymore. Best to be removed or replaced, or we give out a bad impression Are there new ones to add? new blogs related to GS? Broken link: GNUstep News <http://gnustep.blogspot.com/> Not an Official GNUstep News Site Yen-Ju Chen (u

Re: Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, again

2024-02-17 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Richerd, Sergei, it works now: I must admit I did not know that the User Domain was the GNUstep directory in my home directory. And there was indeed a Gorm version that had escaped my attention. My sincere apologies for keeping you busy like that. I wonder now if there is anybody using GUstep

Re: Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, again

2024-02-16 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
> On 16 Feb 2024, at 11:05, Sergei Golovin via Discussion list for the GNUstep > programming environment wrote: > > By the way it is strange that Gorm was installed in the > SYSTEM_DOMAIN. My installation goes into > <...>/Local/Applications/Gorm.a

Re: Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, again

2024-02-16 Thread Sergei Golovin via Discussion list for the GNUstep programming environment
Edwin Ancaer writes: > Sergei, > > I have been booking at the defaults, but I find them in different places. > There is set of decent looking defaults file Defaults.plist at > /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Applications/Gorm.app/Resources. They are in > the attached file. It is

Re: Audio and Midi with GNUstep on Linux

2024-02-12 Thread i...@mclarenlabs.com
toolkit. Units like oscillators, envelopes, filters and reverb are the >> elements from which notes may be built. >> >> Our goal was to make experimenting with Audio and MIDI easy and fun using >> GNUstep on Linux. >> >> One of the more interesting

Re: Audio and Midi with GNUstep on Linux

2024-02-11 Thread lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
aph-based audio processing > toolkit. Units like oscillators, envelopes, filters and reverb are the > elements from which notes may be built. > > Our goal was to make experimenting with Audio and MIDI easy and fun using > GNUstep on Linux. > > One of the more interesting demos i

Re: Audio and Midi with GNUstep on Linux

2024-02-11 Thread Gregory Casamento
Wow. This looks amazing!! Very cool! Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c - OpenHub standings

Audio and Midi with GNUstep on Linux

2024-02-11 Thread i...@mclarenlabs.com
are the elements from which notes may be built. Our goal was to make experimenting with Audio and MIDI easy and fun using GNUstep on Linux. One of the more interesting demos involves tying audio and MIDI objects together with StepTalk. An eventual goal is producing a more full-featured audio

Re: GNUstep bi-monthly Meeting Reminder...

2024-02-10 Thread Tito Mari Francis Escaño
teNotably > >> The meeting is open to everyone. Please feel free to attend. It > starts at 12:30EST and goes to 2:30PM EST. This is an informal meeting, > though we may discuss some important topics. > >> > >> Yours, GC > >> -- > >> Gregory Cas

Re: GNUstep bi-monthly Meeting Reminder...

2024-02-10 Thread Fred Kiefer
to attend. It starts at >> 12:30EST and goes to 2:30PM EST. This is an informal meeting, though we >> may discuss some important topics. >> >> Yours, GC >> -- >> Gregory Casamento >> GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >> http://www.

Re: GNUstep bi-monthly Meeting Reminder...

2024-02-10 Thread lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
everyone. Please feel free to attend. It starts at > 12:30EST and goes to 2:30PM EST. This is an informal meeting, though we may > discuss some important topics. > > Yours, GC > -- > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >

Re: Bi-monthly GNUstep Meeting this Saturday?

2024-02-10 Thread Fred Kiefer
; wrote: > Hi everybody, > > my calendar says that our bi-monthly GNUstep Video Call is up this Saturday > (10.02.2024) at 18:30 MET / 17:30 GMT / 12:30 ET / 9:30 PT: > > https://meet.jit.si/TheatricalNecessitiesFormulateNotably > > Will we hold the meeting this time

Re: Bi-monthly GNUstep Meeting this Saturday?

2024-02-07 Thread Gregory Casamento
everybody, > > my calendar says that our bi-monthly GNUstep Video Call is up this > Saturday (10.02.2024) at 18:30 MET / 17:30 GMT / 12:30 ET / 9:30 PT: > > https://meet.jit.si/TheatricalNecessitiesFormulateNotably > > Will we hold the meeting this time or will we skip it again

GNUstep bi-monthly Meeting Reminder...

2024-02-07 Thread Gregory Casamento
topics. Yours, GC -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org <https://mailtrack.io/l/3d2ec38ac5d9e1cafa4405ce1c82e75e6eaf48fa?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnustep.org=2790543=bc1779f788dc2b89> - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com <https:/

Bi-monthly GNUstep Meeting this Saturday?

2024-02-07 Thread lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
Hi everybody, my calendar says that our bi-monthly GNUstep Video Call is up this Saturday (10.02.2024) at 18:30 MET / 17:30 GMT / 12:30 ET / 9:30 PT: https://meet.jit.si/TheatricalNecessitiesFormulateNotably Will we hold the meeting this time or will we skip it again? Kind regards

Re: Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, again

2024-02-06 Thread Edwin Ancaer
thank you, Riccardo and Sergei, for the replies. I think I'm OK with ProjectCenter. Next on the list is Gorm. I installed the latest release (1.3.1) from Github, and I thought it was be OK, I could follow the tutorial https://gnustep.github.io/experience/PierresDevTutorial/index.html and things

Re: Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, again

2024-02-04 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Edwin Ancaer wrote: Then I got ProjectCenter to build, also from github. And it seems to work. I did a  first test, and I could build and execute the ubiquitous Hello World as a Tool.  Small detail, as I start ProjectCenter with the openapp command, I see the following:

Re: Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, again

2024-02-04 Thread Sergei Golovin via Discussion list for the GNUstep programming environment
Edwin Ancaer writes: > [edwin@ottopedi /usr/ports/devel/gorm/work/apps-gorm-04554d2]$ openapp > ProjectCenter > 2024-02-02 22:42:56.724 ProjectCenter[26915:101910] No local time zone > specified. > 2024-02-02 22:42:56.724 ProjectCenter[26915:101910] Using time zone with > absolute offset 0. >

Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, again

2024-02-02 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello, finally some progress, mostly by trial and error, but hey, I can build make, base, gui and back from what I think to be the latest release versions in github. The number in the so files seem to indicate this. Then I got ProjectCenter to build, also from github. And it seems to work. I

Fwd: Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, some more problems...

2024-01-28 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Well, I suppose very few people use GNUstep on FreeBSD... It seems there is something going wrong with the Documentation indeed. The first errors I find during the build is during the execution of autogsdoc: gmake[4]: Entering directory '/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gnustep-gui/work/libs-gui-gui

Re: Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, some more problems...

2024-01-23 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Gregory, I suppose I install version 2.9.1 of gnustep-make if I see the folllowing: => Attempting to fetch https://github.com/gnustep/tools-make/releases/download/make-2_9_1/gnustep-make-2.9.1.tar.gz gnustep-make-2.9.1.tar.gz 606 kB 2925 kBps 00s Is there anot

Re: Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, some more problems...

2024-01-23 Thread Gregory Casamento
Edwin, NSCollectionViewLayout.h and its associated layout classes were not in gui-0_30_0. I'm confused as to why it's having an issue building docs. Are you certain you don't have a different version of gnustep-make installed? Yours, GC On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 3:15 PM Edwin Ancaer wrote

Installing GNUstep from FreeBSD ports, some more problems...

2024-01-23 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello, can I bore you some more with my GNUstep on FreeBD adventures? I noticed my FreeBSD version was out of support, so I freshly installed FreeBSD 14.0. That made the situation a lot better. The GNUstep ports worked, but the versions of gnustep-make, gnustep-libs and gnustep-back were

Re: Christmas wishes and a failing installation of gnustep-gui on FreeBSD.

2023-12-27 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Fred, thanks for looking into this. If I look in the Makefiles of the GNUStep ports, I see they use github, but apparently they are unmaintaned since a while. Libs-gui is version is still at version 0_28_0 and libs-base is at 0_27_0. I will try to update all Makefiles to the the latest versions

Re: Christmas wishes and a failing installation of gnustep-gui on FreeBSD.

2023-12-27 Thread Fred Kiefer
:31 schrieb Edwin Ancaer : > > > Hello all, > > I must admit my Christmas Wishes for you all are not entirely without > self-interest  > I recently had to reinstall GNUStep on my FreeBSD laptop. As I'm on FreeBSD, > I used the ports system. When installing the gnustem-

Christmas wishes and a failing installation of gnustep-gui on FreeBSD.

2023-12-26 Thread Edwin Ancaer
Hello all, I must admit my Christmas Wishes for you all are not entirely without self-interest  I recently had to reinstall GNUStep on my FreeBSD laptop. As I'm on FreeBSD, I used the ports system. When installing the gnustem-gui port, I had an error. The installation displayed a list

Re: GNUstep BiMonthly - Sorry I wasn't able to make it...

2023-12-15 Thread Ahmed Khanzada via Discussion list for the GNUstep programming environment
No problem, hope you are doing better! Will keep you in my thoughts.

Re: JS engine(s) provided by gnustep

2023-12-13 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Riccardo, SimpleWebKit has its own JS interpreter (ECMA-Script)... https://git.goldelico.com/?p=swk.git;a=blob;f=Sources/ECMAScriptParser.h;h=df2117b53feb6bbc107ffe03a51d26a4ef57c321;hb=18944b0223a4a85c7f338f8dacce071f7fb0d97e The main missing thing is how to manipulate the DOM tree objects

Re: JS engine(s) provided by gnustep

2023-12-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Nikolaus, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: SimpleWebKit had all WebView interfaces to call JS and itself contains some incomplete JS (ECMA-Script) interpreter. what do you think of integrating a light-weight JS interpreter library? I wonder if at the backend of the parser this can be easily

Re: GNUstep BiMonthly - Sorry I wasn't able to make it...

2023-12-10 Thread lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
the meeting. > Yours, GC > > -- > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant > http://www.gnustep.org <http://www.gnustep.org/> - > http://heronsperch.blogspot.com <http://heronsperch.blogspot.com/> > https://www.patreon

Re: GNUstep BiMonthly - Sorry I wasn't able to make it...

2023-12-09 Thread Gerold Rupprecht
Yours, GC > >-- >Gregory Casamento >GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant >http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com >https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron >https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c - OpenHub standings

GNUstep BiMonthly - Sorry I wasn't able to make it...

2023-12-09 Thread Gregory Casamento
Hey guys, I ended up in the hospital on friday and part of saturday due to high blood sugar. I apologize for not being able to make it to the meeting. Yours, GC -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com

GNUstep web browser based on netsurf

2023-11-11 Thread Paul Seelig
Hello everybody, since a google search for neither "netsurf site:lists.gnu.org" nor "websurf site:lists.gnu.org" did result in any findings, it could be suspected that nobody seems to be aware of an existing GNUstep port of the netsurf browser. I already accidently st

Re: Foundation Framework had a bug on GNUstep?

2023-11-05 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 05.11.2023 um 15:44 schrieb loserism : > > myFloat2 = [NSNumber numberWithDouble: 3.14]; > myFloat2 = [NSNumber numberWithDouble: 2.78]; Maybe assigning to myFloat2 twice is a typo? And myFloat1 may happen to be uninitialized to some other constant. -- hns

Foundation Framework had a bug on GNUstep?

2023-11-05 Thread loserism
Hi All. Let's look at the code first: | #import "stdafx.h" int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { NSNumber *myFloat1; NSNumber *myFloat2; myFloat2 = [NSNumber numberWithDouble: 3.14]; myFloat2 = [NSNumber numberWithDouble: 2.78]; NSComparisonResult result; result = [myFloat1 compare:

Re: A recent article of mine mentioned GNUstep

2023-10-30 Thread Gregory Casamento
_096_live/ > > New version of Debian-based live distro boasts added GNUstep, too > > > > -- > Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven > Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com > Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven > IoM: (+44) 7624 2

Re: A recent article of mine mentioned GNUstep

2023-10-30 Thread lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de
w version of Debian-based live distro boasts added GNUstep, too Nice write up, interesting read with some insights. Thanks for writing and sharing! > > > > -- > Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven > Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com >

A recent article of mine mentioned GNUstep

2023-10-30 Thread Liam Proven
I hope I am now closer to preferred terminology. ;-) Window Maker Live: When less is more, but more is also ... more? https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/25/window_maker_096_live/ New version of Debian-based live distro boasts added GNUstep, too -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me

GNUstep bi-monthly meeting REMINDER

2023-10-11 Thread Gregory Casamento
things discussed there are taken into consideration by the core team. Please feel free to attend. Yours, GC -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron

Re: NSViews backed by layers in libs-gui (was: Re: Paid Programmers for GNUStep)

2023-09-13 Thread dr_clow
one day! So Austin is fine. To answer your question, a lot of modern apps that I work on (and specifically the one I want to port to GNUStep) use CALayers. I could do without it, I suppose, but it really is a glaring gap in GNUStep's implementation. Commenting those lines out would make the apps

NSViews backed by layers in libs-gui (was: Re: Paid Programmers for GNUStep)

2023-09-13 Thread Svetlana Tkachenko
Hi Dr Clow (please let me know how to address you if this is incorrect), I'm not one of the GNUstep developers, I contributed to some apps many years ago. I appreciate your suggestion of donating and having progress in specific areas. I am hoping this will be responded to by other more

Paid Programmers for GNUStep

2023-09-13 Thread dr_clow
I was wondering if there were any developers who would be more interested in contributing to GNUStep if there was some money involved. I saw the fund raiser from years ago. I sponsor a few of open source projects, and was thinking about putting some of that money towards GNUStep instead

Re: Re: JS engine(s) provided by gnustep

2023-09-10 Thread loserism
Thank you for your efforts, your answer was exactly what I was expecting. > Hi, > > As far as I know, no one has ported JavaScriptCore to GNUstep. It might not > be a huge amount of work but that last time I looked at it (ten or so years > ago) the build system for JSC

Re: JS engine(s) provided by gnustep

2023-09-10 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
question is if you want DOM integration (i.e. JS within a browser) or a stand-alone JSVirtualMachine class. BR, NIkolaus > Am 10.09.2023 um 15:08 schrieb David Chisnall : > > Hi, > > As far as I know, no one has ported JavaScriptCore to GNUstep. It might not > be a huge amount of

Re: JS engine(s) provided by gnustep

2023-09-10 Thread David Chisnall
Hi, As far as I know, no one has ported JavaScriptCore to GNUstep. It might not be a huge amount of work but that last time I looked at it (ten or so years ago) the build system for JSC conflated a lot of things in the Apple paths that would need disentangling if you want the Cocoa bits

JS engine(s) provided by gnustep

2023-09-09 Thread loserism
Hello friends. I'm trying to use JavaScriptCore through gnustep and found that gnustep doesn't find JavaScriptCore, does anyone know how to fix it? I know I can use other third party js engines, but I only want to use the interface provided by Apple, does gnustep provide an implementation

Re: Drawing in NSWindows and NSViews in GNUStep

2023-08-22 Thread Fred Kiefer
> Am 20.08.2023 um 16:42 schrieb Austin Clow : > > I have been investigating how drawing works and am having a hard time > understanding where drawing begins in the object hierarchy. For example, > where does an NSWindow tell its decorations view to begin drawing its content > into the

Re: Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-20 Thread dr_clow
ssConstructor. The >> former >> is used to simply wrap Objective-C NSObjects and the latter is used to >> register subclasses with the GNUStep Objective-C runtime. All classes crated >> with GNUStepNSObjectSubclassConstructor get a special Ivar '___swiftPtr ' >> inte

Drawing in NSWindows and NSViews in GNUStep

2023-08-20 Thread Austin Clow
I have been investigating how drawing works and am having a hard time understanding where drawing begins in the object hierarchy. For example, where does an NSWindow tell its decorations view to begin drawing its content into the window? Thanks!

Re: Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-17 Thread Ondrej Florian
elp bridge Swift classes to Objective-C (1) > GNUStepNSObjectWrapper and (2) GNUStepNSObjectSubclassConstructor. The former > is used to simply wrap Objective-C NSObjects and the latter is used to > register subclasses with the GNUStep Objective-C runtime. All classes crated > with GN

Re: Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-08 Thread dr_clow
UPDATE: SUCCESS! Since I sent that last email. I had a little break through. Then GNUStep ObjC function class_getMethodImplementation (Apple also has function class_getMethodImplementation_stret that is evidently not used in GNUStep and is just a stub) and allows one to look up the C function

Re: Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-08 Thread dr_clow
9 PM, Gregory Casamento > >> <mailto:greg.casame...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey, I just want you to know that this is VERY VERY cool!!! Yours, GC >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 12:05 PM mailto:dr_c...@me.com>> >

Re: Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-08 Thread Gregory Casamento
t;> > >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 12:05 PM wrote: > >> I have solved the NSWindow initializer issue. I didn't realize I was > passing Swift's Foundation.NSRect and not the C version. Sill haven't > solved the issues regarding adding new ObjC classes to the runtime at >

Re: Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-07 Thread dr_clow
When Macros are available on Linux, we might be able to make some of this automated through Macros. Does GNUStep have a BridgeSupport file like apple's libraries used to have? Right now the major TO DO is getting a better Swiftier version of objc_msgSend() that handles the pointer mechanics

Re: Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-07 Thread M A
SWindow initializer issue. I didn't realize I was passing >> Swift's Foundation.NSRect and not the C version. Sill haven't solved the >> issues regarding adding new ObjC classes to the runtime at runtime through >> Swift. Any ideas here would be appreciated. >> >> T

Re: Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-06 Thread Gregory Casamento
dding new ObjC classes to the runtime at > runtime through Swift. Any ideas here would be appreciated. > > The image below is an GNUStep app written in Swift. The Menu is from the > GORM file from the Terminal (I had to start somewhere!) > > [image: Screenshot 2023-08-06 at 10.5

Re: Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-06 Thread dr_clow
is an GNUStep app written in Swift. The Menu is from the GORM file from the Terminal (I had to start somewhere!)  > On Aug 5, 2023, at 9:03 PM, dr_c...@me.com wrote: > > I just wanted to update everyone on my progress and solicit some help if > possible. > > State of my progress:

Swift calling into GNUStep Progress

2023-08-05 Thread dr_clow
here https://github.com/austintatiousness/GNUStepSwiftBridge . This assumes that you're running this from within OnFlapp's GNUStep Desktop. Solution to objcSendMessage: Because Swift doesn't allow variable argument parameters, I had to create various versions of objcSendMessage (e.g

Re: GNUstep Testsuite

2023-08-05 Thread Fred Kiefer
You can always fallback to the inplace documentation in GNUstep make: https://github.com/gnustep/tools-make/tree/master/TestFramework Hope this helps, Fred > Am 05.08.2023 um 01:47 schrieb Tito Mari Francis Escaño > : > > Hi, > Can somebody please point me to the GNUstep Test

GNUstep Testsuite

2023-08-04 Thread Tito Mari Francis Escaño
Hi, Can somebody please point me to the GNUstep Testsuite resources? I clicked the link in https://gnustep.github.io/developers/documentation.html and it went error 404, supposedly pointing to something in Github but it seems it's no longer there. I was hoping to learn how test-driven development

Updated invitation: GNUstep Bi-Monthly Meeting @ Every 2 months from 12:30pm to 1:30pm on the second Saturday from Sat Apr 8 to Fri Aug 11 (EDT) (discuss-gnustep@gnu.org)

2023-08-03 Thread greg . casamento
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Re: Bridge from Swift to Objective-C (GNUStep Runtime) via C or other method

2023-07-31 Thread Gregory Casamento
e code in libs-corebase for an example on how to > call method from C code. All the bridge code is in Source/GSObjCRuntime.h. > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, 16:05 wrote: > >> I am very interested in building a bridge between Swift and GNUStep's >> Objective-C Runtime. >> >&

Re: Bridge from Swift to Objective-C (GNUStep Runtime) via C or other method

2023-07-31 Thread dr_clow
thod from C code. All the bridge code is in Source/GSObjCRuntime.h. >> >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, 16:05 mailto:dr_c...@me.com>> wrote: >>> I am very interested in building a bridge between Swift and GNUStep's >>> Objective-C Runtime. >>> >>>

Re: Bridge from Swift to Objective-C (GNUStep Runtime) via C or other method

2023-07-30 Thread dr_clow
bjCRuntime.h. > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, 16:05 mailto:dr_c...@me.com>> wrote: >> I am very interested in building a bridge between Swift and GNUStep's >> Objective-C Runtime. >> >> Given that the Objective-C implementation provided by GNUStep doesn't >>

Re: Bridge from Swift to Objective-C (GNUStep Runtime) via C or other method

2023-07-29 Thread Stefan Bidigaray
; > Given that the Objective-C implementation provided by GNUStep doesn't > interact directly with Swift as Swift can with Apple's Objective-C runtime, > I was wondering if there was a way to call into GNUStep from C. If someone > could show me an example of a way to call into GNUStep using

Bridge from Swift to Objective-C (GNUStep Runtime) via C or other method

2023-07-29 Thread dr_clow
I am very interested in building a bridge between Swift and GNUStep's Objective-C Runtime. Given that the Objective-C implementation provided by GNUStep doesn't interact directly with Swift as Swift can with Apple's Objective-C runtime, I was wondering if there was a way to call into GNUStep

Re: Is possible build latest gnustep from github rep on windows?

2023-07-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
not work on my machine, I want to know whether it is a problem of my system or gnustep itself, I am currently using debugger I'm currently using the debugger to try to find out where the root of the problem is, even my debugger is not working properly at the moment, but to help anyone who

Re: Is possible build latest gnustep from github rep on windows?

2023-07-04 Thread Andreas Fink
never gets called when you call NSLog from main directly. > On 4 Jul 2023, at 09:28, Frederik Seiffert wrote: > > That exit code is STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION, I’m guessing it’s crashing > somewhere in the GNUstep initialization. > https://www.magnumdb.com/search?q=1073741819 > &

Re: Is possible build latest gnustep from github rep on windows?

2023-07-04 Thread Frederik Seiffert
That exit code is STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION, I’m guessing it’s crashing somewhere in the GNUstep initialization. https://www.magnumdb.com/search?q=1073741819 I think you won’t get any further without using a debugger to get a stack trace of the crash. You should be able to use either Visual

Re:Re: Is possible build latest gnustep from github rep on windows?

2023-07-03 Thread bellabs
Hello RK, first of all thank you for your reply and advice. I am currently using gnustep-tools-windows-msvc, but the program does not work properly using code that involves objects, such as the following code: | @interface HelloWorld : NSObject - (void)sayHello; @end @implementation HelloWorld

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