Re: Re[2]: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard

2007-11-24 Thread David Chisnall
On 24 Nov 2007, at 01:04, Helge Hess wrote: But really, you will never get an ObjC framework as easy to learn as a framework built on interpreted languages, be it Seaside, RoR or Zope. If you start with ObjC, you always need to deal with RC, with makefiles, with GCC, etc etc. This is the

Re: Re[2]: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard

2007-11-23 Thread Helge Hess
On 23.11.2007, at 19:48, David Chisnall wrote: Looking at things like SOGO and other WebObjects applications make it seem so tantalising Just for the record, SOGo (http://www.scalableogo.org/) is NOT a WebObjects application. It makes heavy use of (is built around) SOPE specific REST

Re: Re[2]: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard

2007-11-23 Thread Gregory John Casamento
# GNUstep Chief Maintainer - Original Message From: Thom Cherryhomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Discuss GNUstep discuss-gnustep@gnu.org Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 1:22:29 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard Manuel, Gee, your

Re: Re[2]: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard

2007-11-23 Thread David Chisnall
Hi Manuel, I think Thom's comments are a little harsh, but I have to concur with the underlying idea behind them. I am not exactly an Objective-C neophyte - around 20K lines of code in the Étoilé repository are my contribution and I have no problems digging through the -gui source to