Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-03 Thread Riccardo
Hi, On Friday, March 2, 2007, at 10:21 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: Maybe the Omnigroup is willing to open source their old Cocoa based implementation that they have lying around useless since OmniWeb switched to webkit. At least we should ask them politely if they are willing to

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Camille Bourgoin
On 2007-03-01 15:52:04 +0100 Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the NSDocument architecture is concerned, the way current browsers work a document/classeur would be the page currently visible in a tab _and_ the history of that tab, I think. I also think that's a confusing

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Chris B. Vetter
On 3/2/07, Stefan Bidigaray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason I was under the impression that the latest Amaya version (v9.54) used Cocoa, and not wxWindows, which could be the reason why I didn't find the source for it (I knew where the gtk version was). If you check the configure for

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Graham J Lee
On 1 Mar 2007, at 22:19, Riccardo wrote: Hi, The toolbar separated from the document view is novel (OmniWeb 4.0 had the bookmarks inspector as a separate window, but IIRC that was it). OTOH, how much sense does that make? For things like zoom, help etc. it's fine. But buttons

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 3/2/07, Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Mar 2007, at 22:19, Riccardo wrote: Hi, The toolbar separated from the document view is novel (OmniWeb 4.0 had the bookmarks inspector as a separate window, but IIRC that was it). OTOH, how much sense does that make? For things

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Camille Bourgoin
On 2007-03-01 14:01:55 +0100 Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Mar 2007, at 12:12, Camille Bourgoin wrote: Hello ! This morning, in my bath, I think of a user-interface concept for a web-browser. I wrote a paper about it. Maybe is it bad, maybe it can be useful for somebody.

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Bourgoin
On 2007-03-01 14:06:41 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Mrz., 13:12, Camille Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello ! This morning, in my bath, I think of a user-interface concept for a web-browser. I wrote a paper about it. Maybe is it bad, maybe it can be useful for

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Camille Bourgoin
On 2007-03-01 21:02:46 +0100 Stefan Bidigaray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing as no one has said it, there's also Amaya! It's the W3C's, which means it's only dependency is libwww. It was recently ported to Cocoa (according to their website) but I don't know where to find that code.

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-02 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 01.03.2007 um 23:42 schrieb Riccardo: The idea would be to brew our own, but leveraging on existing tools (DOM trees, XML renderes, parsers, etc... he was much more expert than me and I don't remember the details but maybe I can dig them up). THis would give us a true obj-c solution

a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Camille Bourgoin
Hello ! This morning, in my bath, I think of a user-interface concept for a web-browser. I wrote a paper about it. Maybe is it bad, maybe it can be useful for somebody. The concept is in my website, here : http://jbbourgoin.free.fr/site/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=38Itemid=49 The

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Graham J Lee
On 1 Mar 2007, at 12:12, Camille Bourgoin wrote: Hello ! This morning, in my bath, I think of a user-interface concept for a web-browser. I wrote a paper about it. Maybe is it bad, maybe it can be useful for somebody. The concept is in my website, here :

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1 Mrz., 13:12, Camille Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello ! This morning, in my bath, I think of a user-interface concept for a web-browser. I wrote a paper about it. Maybe is it bad, maybe it can be useful for somebody. The concept is in my website, here

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Camille Bourgoin
On 2007-03-01 14:06:41 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Mrz., 13:12, Camille Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello ! This morning, in my bath, I think of a user-interface concept for a web-browser. I wrote a paper about it. Maybe is it bad, maybe it can be useful for

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Graham J Lee
On 1 Mar 2007, at 14:24, Camille Bourgoin wrote: On 2007-03-01 14:01:55 +0100 Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Mar 2007, at 12:12, Camille Bourgoin wrote: Hello ! This morning, in my bath, I think of a user-interface concept for a web-browser. I wrote a paper about it. Maybe is

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-03-01 14:06:41 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, I did not understand the text... But the pictures look like it can be easily implemented using WebKit. Using WebKit you could write a browser with almost no line of code. Well, there is no WebKit for

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Stefan Bidigaray
Seeing as no one has said it, there's also Amaya! It's the W3C's, which means it's only dependency is libwww. It was recently ported to Cocoa (according to their website) but I don't know where to find that code. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-03-01 21:02:46 +0100 Stefan Bidigaray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing as no one has said it, there's also Amaya! It's the W3C's, which means it's only dependency is libwww. It was recently ported to Cocoa (according to their website) but I don't know where to find that code. The

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 01.03.2007 um 21:02 schrieb Stefan Bidigaray: Seeing as no one has said it, there's also Amaya! It's the W3C's, which means it's only dependency is libwww. It was recently ported to Cocoa (according to their website) but I don't know where to find that code. Did you look here:

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Riccardo
Hi.. On Thursday, March 1, 2007, at 02:01 PM, Graham J Lee wrote: The toolbar separated from the document view is novel (OmniWeb 4.0 had the bookmarks inspector as a separate window, but IIRC that was it). OTOH, how much sense does that make? For things like zoom, help etc. it's fine.

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Riccardo
Hi, On Thursday, March 1, 2007, at 09:02 PM, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: Seeing as no one has said it, there's also Amaya!  It's the W3C's, which means it's only dependency is libwww.  It was recently ported to Cocoa (according to their website) but I don't know where to find that code. back

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Brad Collins
Riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Novel? oh, please... My lont/time favourite browser Mosaic had a detachable toolbar since long, long (on unix). I could be wrong, but Omniweb was running on NeXT before Mosaic was working on Windows or Mac. I remember including OmniWeb screen shots in

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Stefan Bidigaray
For some reason I was under the impression that the latest Amaya version ( v9.54) used Cocoa, and not wxWindows, which could be the reason why I didn't find the source for it (I knew where the gtk version was). There's also Dillo, which is not really in the same level as all the other browsers,