Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-11-01 Thread Inge Wallin
On Wednesday, October 27, 2010 23:02:43 Andras Timar wrote: 2010.10.26. 9:06 keltezéssel, Xi Embalsado írta: Can you make the defaults: - White fill in shapes rather than light blue I was thinking of LibreOffice Green instead of Blue 8... What do you think? This is easy to change. This

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-29 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-24 8:23 AM, RGB ES wrote: Another example: do you know anyone that use the send by email button? Most possible receivers nowadays still use msoffice so using that button have the only effect that new users come to forums asking why the people to whom they sent the file is not able

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-29 Thread Erich Christian
Am 28.10.2010 09:52, schrieb Sveinn í Felli: Þann fim 28.okt 2010 07:09, skrifaði Valter Mura: In data mercoledì 27 ottobre 2010 21:41:20, Marc Paré ha scritto: Anyway, I think also that a request of registration during installation is acceptable. You can add, optionally, some check boxes to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-29 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-29 15:45, Charles Marcus a écrit : On 2010-10-24 8:23 AM, RGB ES wrote: Another example: do you know anyone that use the send by email button? Most possible receivers nowadays still use msoffice so using that button have the only effect that new users come to forums asking why the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Valter Mura
In data mercoledì 27 ottobre 2010 21:41:20, Marc Paré ha scritto: I don't think I would favour this. There is too much potential for gathering data from users and we could really run in trouble if criticism were to spread that we are data mining our LibO users. Is there anything like that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Þann fim 28.okt 2010 07:09, skrifaði Valter Mura: In data mercoledì 27 ottobre 2010 21:41:20, Marc Paré ha scritto: I don't think I would favour this. There is too much potential for gathering data from users and we could really run in trouble if criticism were to spread that we are data

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-27 22:55, Damien Ellis a écrit : On 10/24/10, RGB ESrgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Another example: do you know anyone that use the send by email button? Most possible receivers nowadays still use msoffice so using that button have the only effect that new users come to forums asking why

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai
Hi, AFAIR the translation work if the name of color matches with the translation. So already translated names should works. Regarding to color palette, for same reason we should save the old palette after the new palette. KAMI 2010-10-28 07:20 keltezéssel, Andras Timar írta: 2010.10.28. 5:47

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Sveinn! Am Donnerstag, den 28.10.2010, 07:52 + schrieb Sveinn í Felli: Anyway, I think also that a request of registration during installation [...] +1 Maybe such a popup, asking whether one would like to register and/or send usage data, should be activated a bit later than

RE: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Xi Embalsado
Love it. I'll put my own background to it... -- Unsubscribe information: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:52:20 +0200, leif leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: Many large installations are very irritated about the registration screen. The DisableFirstStartWisard solves some of the problem *but* its version dependant. IMHO we should remove the *registration* completely. We are not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-27 06:21, Sebastian Spaeth a écrit : On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:52:20 +0200, leifleiflod...@gmail.com wrote: Many large installations are very irritated about the registration screen. The DisableFirstStartWisard solves some of the problem *but* its version dependant. IMHO we should

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:10:24 -0400, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: In my view, the registrations process for LibO is quite an important tool. Too late, I asked and it is already gone :). I realize the power of statistics, but it is annoying and very uncommon at least for Linux applications

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-27 09:30, Sebastian Spaeth a écrit : On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:10:24 -0400, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: In my view, the registrations process for LibO is quite an important tool. Too late, I asked and it is already gone :). I realize the power of statistics, but it is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Michel Gagnon
Le 2010-10-27 09:10, Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2010-10-27 06:21, Sebastian Spaeth a écrit : IMHO we should remove the *registration* completely. We are not after marketing addresses and I don't see a benefit in LibO requiring (or even inviting) users to register. Sebastian From a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread jonathon
Somebody wrote: Default colours should be vibrant colours, not half-dead ones. Can I use that as my excuse for creating my own custom palettes? Well other than my standard custom custom palette is very heavy on pastels. More importantly, I like an easy selection of custom colours. What

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread AG
On 27/10/10 17:40, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-27 12:32, AG a écrit : Considering Marc's perspective, I think that it is fine to have a sense of who the user-base is, where they are from (regional, not specific granularity!!), the purpose for which they use the software (home/ work/

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-27 15:30, AG a écrit : Marc I had in mind some kind of sub-routine that, with the user's sign in, would use system data (language preference, locality) along with LibO data (which components are used and relative frequency) and periodically send this data in an anonymised (scrubbed)

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Johannes Bausch
I think they check which packages are currently in use (if you install one via Ubuntu's package manager you even see a star rating, I don't know if that's the same, though). 2010/10/27 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: Le 2010-10-27 15:30, AG a écrit : Marc I had in mind some kind of sub-routine

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread AG
On 27/10/10 20:41, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-27 15:30, AG a écrit : Marc I had in mind some kind of sub-routine that, with the user's sign in, would use system data (language preference, locality) along with LibO data (which components are used and relative frequency) and periodically send

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-27 17:30, AG a écrit : Well, that's why it is all open and above board, the code is open, the fields are explicitly defined, clear data specifications, and the system mails out to LibO (cc the user) the reports. It isn't data mining: it is voluntary, the default option is no, it can

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Damien Ellis
On 10/24/10, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Another example: do you know anyone that use the send by email button? Most possible receivers nowadays still use msoffice so using that button have the only effect that new users come to forums asking why the people to whom they sent the file is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-27 Thread Andras Timar
2010.10.28. 5:47 keltezéssel, jonathon írta: On 10/27/2010 09:02 PM, Andras Timar wrote: Unfortunately changing the standard palette has significant impact on code and localizations, How so? From where I'm sitting, it looks like a simple change of standard.soc. Alternatively, throw in

RE: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-26 Thread Xi Embalsado
Can you make the defaults: - 1 inch margin around the document rather than .79 - Smoother dragging buttons for shapes and images - White fill in shapes rather than light blue - Can you change the color palette to a more streamlined set of colors. (Like GoogleDocs and MSO)?

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-26 Thread Valter Mura
In data martedì 26 ottobre 2010 03:10:59, Marc Paré ha scritto: Le 2010-10-25 13:37, Roman Gelbort a écrit : El 25/10/10 04:38, Marc Paré escribió: I would suggest this as an extension and people could devise all sort of permutations of menus imaginable. That way, a user could pick from

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-26 Thread AG
On 25/10/10 18:37, Roman Gelbort wrote: El 25/10/10 04:38, Marc Paré escribió: I would suggest this as an extension and people could devise all sort of permutations of menus imaginable. That way, a user could pick from a list that is more personal to them. How about a menu theme for Mad

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-26 Thread Michel Gagnon
Le 2010-10-26 10:09, Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2010-10-26 09:17, Michel Gagnon a écrit : Other comments: - Hard spaces should be displayed -- or not -- according to the setting made with show hidden characters. Actually, I was pointed to this site yesterday. See if this is what you are

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-25 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:23:13 +0200, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: There are discussions on this list about UI redesign. Even if this is a good goal on the mid/long term, there are lots of things that can be done *immediately* to build a better user experience: change default toolbars and

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-25 Thread Roman Gelbort
El 25/10/10 04:38, Marc Paré escribió: I would suggest this as an extension and people could devise all sort of permutations of menus imaginable. That way, a user could pick from a list that is more personal to them. How about a menu theme for Mad Author or Crazy Academic? LOL I agree with

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-25 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-25 13:37, Roman Gelbort a écrit : El 25/10/10 04:38, Marc Paré escribió: I would suggest this as an extension and people could devise all sort of permutations of menus imaginable. That way, a user could pick from a list that is more personal to them. How about a menu theme for Mad

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-25 Thread goldfish
implement the same feature as the Firefox personas Yes Please! -Original Message- From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 6:40 am Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults Le 2010-10-25 13:37, Roman Gelbort a écrit :  El 25

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-24 Thread Michel Gagnon
Le 2010-10-24 11:40, Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2010-10-24 08:23, RGB ES a écrit : Another example: do you know anyone that use the send by email button? Most possible receivers nowadays still use msoffice so using that button have the only effect that new users come to forums asking why the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-24 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-24 22:09, Roman Gelbort a écrit : El 24/10/10 12:40, Marc Paré escribió: Another example: do you know anyone that use the send by email button? Most possible receivers nowadays still use msoffice so using that button have the only effect that new users come to forums asking why the