Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-27 Thread François-Olivier Devaux
Hi Michael, We made some tests with tiles of 1000*1000 pixels, with 1 tiles, and the memory used is about 112 MB for the encoding and 114 MB for the decoding. If you don't want to use tiles, I don't think OpenJPEG can beat the commercial applications like Kakadu. What standard do you

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-27 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
solution. -mpg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of François-Olivier Devaux Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:50 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-26 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
François: When you say Mega-Images (- geo-sized images), just how big are you talking about? If you are in the 10-100GB range, I/LizardTech would be very interested in talking with you about the project, and also about supporting some of the geo metadata conventions. (Especially if you can

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-26 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Michael, Again, I don't pretend to be an expert on JPEG2000. However, I'd like to know more about the format for future reference. Does the wiki article at the following URL represent a good overview of the format? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_2000 If it is accurate, there is a

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-26 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:12 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000 IMO

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Schmidt Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:18 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:27:22AM -0800, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Bruce- Again, I'm not sure

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Ed McNierney
, 2008 8:57 PM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 04:31:34PM -0800, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Yup: Kakadu is not Open Source, as per the OSI definition of the term. The only FOSS package I know of is OpenJpeg2000 (or something like

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:04:59PM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: Christopher - You will very likely find that using different LZW compression options (particularly setting a small strip size) will slightly degrade compression performance while significantly improving read time. While I think

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Ed McNierney
-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:04:59PM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: Christopher - You will very likely find that using different LZW compression options (particularly setting a small strip size) will slightly degrade compression performance while significantly improving

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:26:16PM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: Christopher - Let me add the evidence that I have found that reducing the strip size in LZW-compressed GeoTIFFs has, not surprisingly, a VERY large effect on read performance - about a factor of 10 in the particular cases I used.

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Michael, Thanks for the comments on this thread. I've had a couple of private emails expressing interest in the outcome, so I'll continue this conversation in public, rather than moving it offline. One of the problems that I have is that I understand that JPEG 2000 can be 'lossy' or

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-23 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Thanks for the reply Traian, I don't mean to be dismissive of this report, but I was hoping for something more definitive to prove that 'lossless' JPEG compressions did indeed protect the integrity of the data.. Perhaps its just my ignorance, but I was hoping for something along the

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-23 Thread Traian Stanev
PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:57 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000 IMO: Thanks for the reply Traian, I don't mean to be dismissive of this report, but I was hoping

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-23 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000 IMO: Thanks for the reply Traian, I don't mean to be dismissive of this report, but I was hoping for something more definitive to prove that 'lossless' JPEG compressions did indeed

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-23 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Michael, My concern as a custodian of significant image resources is to ensure that the integrity of this data is protected and available for future analytical use by ourselves and by the public. As an example, to conduct multi-temporal analysis of 'imagery' to help understand big