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[Charlie Schweik]

FYI - All of the proceedings from recent past foss4g conferences can be
found at

https://scholarworks.umass.edu/foss4g

Cheers
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On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 8:02 AM Andy Anderson  wrote:

> https://www.int-arch-photogramm-remote-sens-spatial-inf-sci.net/XLII-4-W8/
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> and if not available online I would like to know the ISBN no.
> >
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https://www.int-arch-photogramm-remote-sens-spatial-inf-sci.net/XLII-4-W8/

> On Jun 14, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Vijay Tulasingam  wrote:
> 
> Dear all
> Thank you, I would like to know where can I get FOSS4G2018 proceedings and if 
> not available online I would like to know the ISBN no.
> 
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[Jeff McKenna]

Thank you for the great introduction Tri, and welcome to the OSGeo 
community :)  -jeff




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On 2017-12-26 1:37 PM, Tri Truong wrote:

Hello everyone,
I am Tri Truong, a student participating in the Google Code-In 2017. I 
am currently attending a public high school as a senior, and will be 
working with and contributing to the OSGeo community by the time I 
participate at the GCI 2017. Here's my OSGeo wiki page, if you wish to 
know more about me: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/18ttruongk 



Thank you, hoping to contribute to the OSGeo community.

2017-12-26 10:08 GMT-08:00 Tri Truong <18ttruo...@gmail.com 
>:


Hello everyone,
I am Tri Truong, a student participating in the Google Code-In 2017.
I am currently attending a public high school as a senior, and will
be working with and contributing to the OSGeo community by the time
I participate at the GCI 2017. Here's my OSGeo wiki page, if you
wish to know more about me: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/18ttruongk


Thank you, hoping to contribute to the OSGeo community.

Tri Truong






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[Tri Truong]

Hello everyone,
I am Tri Truong, a student participating in the Google Code-In 2017. I am
currently attending a public high school as a senior, and will be working
with and contributing to the OSGeo community by the time I participate at
the GCI 2017. Here's my OSGeo wiki page, if you wish to know more about me:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/18ttruongk

Thank you, hoping to contribute to the OSGeo community.

2017-12-26 10:08 GMT-08:00 Tri Truong <18ttruo...@gmail.com>:

> Hello everyone,
> I am Tri Truong, a student participating in the Google Code-In 2017. I am
> currently attending a public high school as a senior, and will be working
> with and contributing to the OSGeo community by the time I participate at
> the GCI 2017. Here's my OSGeo wiki page, if you wish to know more about me:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/18ttruongk
>
> Thank you, hoping to contribute to the OSGeo community.
>
> Tri Truong
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[Jeff McKenna]

Thank you Shameek and welcome to the OSGeo community! :)

-jeff

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On 2017-12-02 11:33 AM, Shameek Dutta wrote:

I am a new member of the OSGeo community.
This is my new wiki page-https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Shameek_Dutta



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[Luí­s Moreira de Sousa]

Dear all,

In my experience maintenance and operational costs are far higher with 
proprietary software than with open source. With some licenced products 
operational costs are actually the largest slice of the budget. But well, that 
is only the experience of a single individual.

However, in these matters we should always apply a macroscopic view. It is far 
more rational to hire a local company to maintain and develop a particular open 
source solution, than to send barge-loads of money overseas on licence fees. 
Open source can be employed as a powerful economic policy tool, directing 
investment and job creation to where they are most needed.

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[Arnulf Christl]

Kiringai,
thanks for your thoughts but I cannot quite follow your argument. Or
rather, you are just reiterating an old claim by some proprietary
vendors stating that their software provides more operations security
/due to being developed in a proprietary model/. This claim has never
been evidenced and probably cannot be proven anyway.

Please excuse me if I misunderstood your argument.

Thanks,
Arnulf

Am 29.03.2017 um 05:50 schrieb Kiringai Kamau:
> Steven this has been the experience of many corporates as theyrise the   
> ladder of visibility. Indeed from an operations security perspective 
> proprietary solutions end up being cheaper and secure making corporates 
> migrate to proprietary ones. 
>
> However, if the desire is to just collect data fir value added analytics it's 
> best to retain the open source dynamic. Proper planning always guides the 
> best model to use. 
>
> Kiringai 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 25 Mar 2017, at 20:06, Steven Feldman  wrote:
>>
>> Implementation, customisation, integration, training, ongoing support, 
>> maintenance and hosting are the main costs regardless of whether the 
>> underlying software is proprietary or open source
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[Suchith Anand]

.

For me,  Openness means being open to different perspectives ,ideas, 
viewpoints, cultures  and learning and improving to be a better human every 
day...

Best wishes,

Suchith


[1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-June/014405.html

[2] 
http://opensourcegeospatial.icaci.org/2015/06/open-gis-academics-and-educators-please-apply-to-aag-call-before-june-15th-2015/


From: Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com>
Sent: 26 March 2017 6:29 PM
To: Anand Suchith
Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] (no subject)

Suchith

You mention "high cost of GIS software procurement for governments”. I am not 
sure how you are measuring this “high” cost and against what? For most local 
government bodies (in the developed world) I would expect the cost of GI 
software to be 0.1% to 0.2% of total budget and less for a central government 
department. I don’t consider this to be “high” but of course as taxpayers many 
of us would like expenditure to be lower whether it is on software or people or 
...

My experience of procurement is based on the UK but probably applies to much of 
Europe. All but the smallest procurements are governed by EU regulations and 
are pretty testing for vendors (regardless of whether they offer proprietary or 
open source solutions) and have a high degree of transparency and fairness. 
Typically cost will be one of the two main criteria on which bids are 
evaluated, the other being quality.

The gvSIG community is impressive, on what do you base "created  thousands of  
jobs”? That is more than I estimated for the whole FOSS4G ecosystem last year.

I agree that in circumstances where an organisation wants to deploy thousands 
of desktops, an open source GI desktop may well save money compared to the cost 
of a proprietary licensed product particularly if the organisation can provide 
training and support from internal resources. This could be the case in the 
education sector. But, and this is a big but most government departments are 
moving away from desktop GI to server based solutions and in those 
circumstances the costs of implementation, integration, support and hosting 
will substantially exceed any costs of licenses.

I spend much of my working time advocating and marketing open source GI and, in 
the past, I have also built a very successful business based on proprietary 
software. The choices that customers make are based on a wide range of 
criteria, there is no one right choice and it is a misunderstanding of 
sophisticated buyers to suggest that they have in some way been mislead by 
vendors whether they are proprietary or open source.

Let’s grow the usage of Open Source GI through positive advocacy of its 
benefits, investment of time and money in high quality marketing and an 
understanding of and respect for the strengths of our competitors.

Best
__
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On 26 Mar 2017, at 07:53, Suchith Anand 
<suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi Steven,

Thank you for your email and information.  I am an educator and researcher. I  
have zero knowledge or expertise in software sales or software procurement  .I 
do not know the answers but i am sure by harnessing the collective wisdom of 
the community we will be able find the best ideas  for bringing down high cost 
of GIS software procurement for governments for cost savings of tax payer money 
and create innovation opportunities for all.

There needs to be detailed study on how we can bring down high GIS software 
costs  for govenments worldwide . Governments are are one of the biggest 
spenders and it is all hardworking taxpayers money from cleaners to teachers, 
hence it is important to think of cost savings . My gut feeling is if there are 
open and transparent procurement systems and lot of competition (no vendor 
monopolies), then GIS software implementation costs will come down and also 
create lot of innovation and value added opportunities for big companies as 
well as SMEs. There need to be best practice sharing  globally. For example i  
am interested to understand more about  gvSIG ecosystem[1] in Spain and other 
similar examples . gvSIG didn't create any Billionaires or multi Billionaires 
(that was not its purpose) but it did create lot of innovation  , helped  local 
governments , created  thousands of  jobs and a vibrant ecosystem and 
community. More importanly for me, it helped create gvSIG Batovi which went on 
to provide high quality spatial education opportunities for millions of poor 
students in Uruguay and other countries.

I know good examples of large scale IT projects done with low cost in my state 
Kerala in India ( we are a developing country with lot of resource constraints 
). For example IT@School project [1]  (which is World’s largest simultaneous 
deployment of FOSS based ICT education). It is running for over a decade now 
benifitting over 12,000 schools,  a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] (no subject)

[Steven Feldman]

ftware vendors or sellers  didn't get involved in 
> this! 
> 
> So as i told my knowledge in this is very limited, so i am depending on 
> experts like you to help guide me.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Suchith
> 
> [1] http://www.gvsig.com/ <http://www.gvsig.com/>
> 
> [2] https://itschool.gov.in/glance.php <https://itschool.gov.in/glance.php> 
> 
> From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
> <mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org>> on behalf of Steven Feldman 
> <shfeld...@gmail.com <mailto:shfeld...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: 25 March 2017 5:06 PM
> To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] (no subject)
> 
> It is important to note that the cost of licences in a solution (i.e. 
> something more than a simple desktop implementation) are only a part of the 
> overall cost and in many cases, in my experience, a small part.
> 
> Implementation, customisation, integration, training, ongoing support, 
> maintenance and hosting are the main costs regardless of whether the 
> underlying software is proprietary or open source
> 
> My experience of selling to the public sector is that, on occasions, 
> proprietary solutions have been lower cost than open source.
> 
> Steven
> 
> 
> > On 24 Mar 2017, at 19:00, discuss-requ...@lists.osgeo.org 
> > <mailto:discuss-requ...@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
> >
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> >  update (Vicky Vergara)
> >   3. Ideas for the building global research agenda for Geospatial
> >  Data Science (Suchith Anand)
> >   4. Re: Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier
> >  properitery product as Open? (Steven Feldman)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:51:53 +
> > From: Suchith Anand <suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk 
> > <mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>>
> > To: María Arias de Reyna <delawen+os...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:delawen+os...@gmail.com>>, Luí­s Moreira
> >de Sousa <luis.de.so...@protonmail.ch 
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> > +1 .
> >
> >
> > I am also interested in how we can protect taxpayers money in this. The 
> > need for cost savings by using Open source GIS software will help the local 
> > authorities and various government departments across Europe in reducing 
> > huge licence fee costs for proprietary software and  Government and 
> > taxpayers as a whole will benefit from cost efficiencies, reduce the cost 
> > of lock-in to suppliers and products. This is especially important for 
> > future IT investments (for example Cloud Computing) , so that more options 
> > are explored and choices available. I presented my ideas on the importance 
> > of having a National level strategy for Open Principles in Geospatial [1] . 
> > Overview slides are at 
> > https://www.slideshare.net/SuchithAnand

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] (no subject)

[Suchith Anand]

Hi Steven,

Thank you for your email and information.  I am an educator and researcher. I  
have zero knowledge or expertise in software sales or software procurement  .I 
do not know the answers but i am sure by harnessing the collective wisdom of 
the community we will be able find the best ideas  for bringing down high cost 
of GIS software procurement for governments for cost savings of tax payer money 
and create innovation opportunities for all.

There needs to be detailed study on how we can bring down high GIS software 
costs  for govenments worldwide . Governments are are one of the biggest 
spenders and it is all hardworking taxpayers money from cleaners to teachers, 
hence it is important to think of cost savings . My gut feeling is if there are 
open and transparent procurement systems and lot of competition (no vendor 
monopolies), then GIS software implementation costs will come down and also 
create lot of innovation and value added opportunities for big companies as 
well as SMEs. There need to be best practice sharing  globally. For example i  
am interested to understand more about  gvSIG ecosystem[1] in Spain and other 
similar examples . gvSIG didn't create any Billionaires or multi Billionaires 
(that was not its purpose) but it did create lot of innovation  , helped  local 
governments , created  thousands of  jobs and a vibrant ecosystem and 
community. More importanly for me, it helped create gvSIG Batovi which went on 
to provide high quality spatial education opportunities for millions of poor 
students in Uruguay and other countries.

I know good examples of large scale IT projects done with low cost in my state 
Kerala in India ( we are a developing country with lot of resource constraints 
). For example IT@School project [1]  (which is World’s largest simultaneous 
deployment of FOSS based ICT education). It is running for over a decade now 
benifitting over 12,000 schools,  about 60 lakh students, 6 million students 
and 20 teachers.There are costs for implementation, customisation (we have 
local language- Malayalam), integration, training, ongoing support, maintenance 
and it is all done locally and innovation ecosystems have been created locally. 
  More importantly we can scale this up easily to millions of schools as needed 
and there is no fear of vendor lock -in. Thank God that major software vendors 
or sellers  didn't get involved in this!

So as i told my knowledge in this is very limited, so i am depending on experts 
like you to help guide me.

Best wishes,

Suchith

[1] http://www.gvsig.com/


[2] https://itschool.gov.in/glance.php


From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Steven Feldman 
<shfeld...@gmail.com>
Sent: 25 March 2017 5:06 PM
To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] (no subject)

It is important to note that the cost of licences in a solution (i.e. something 
more than a simple desktop implementation) are only a part of the overall cost 
and in many cases, in my experience, a small part.

Implementation, customisation, integration, training, ongoing support, 
maintenance and hosting are the main costs regardless of whether the underlying 
software is proprietary or open source

My experience of selling to the public sector is that, on occasions, 
proprietary solutions have been lower cost than open source.

Steven


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> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is

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[Brad Hards]

> 3.The best resolution of Sentinel-2 data in four channels is 10 meters.
> This is the upper limit of the spatial resolution that can be used for 
> monitoring
> of urban areas. And even only for undeveloped urban areas and inter-
> settlement territories. On the territory of a thick building the image turns 
> into
> mess, and to obtain useful results it should be used paid high resolution
> images. Where (if it is possible) can we download these satellite's 
> (Sentinel)
> images, I mean from open resources?
This is the native resolution of the satellite sensor. "It is what it is."

> 4.There is a big problem with data processing in free open source
> software (SNAP, GRASS GIS, etc.). There is no any documentation and
> understandable skills of Sentinel using, that is why all actions, making in 
> these
> software, are delayed for a long time and often do not lead to the expected
> result.
http://step.esa.int/main/doc/tutorials/sentinel-2-toolbox-tutorials/ may help

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[Harish]

Thanks for kind information about such a useful course.
Regards


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