Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

Hi Vasile,



On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Vasile Craciunescu
 wrote:
> Dear Eli,
>
> I appreciate your concerns related to OSGeo board elections. However, I have
> a few points to make. This year we had 2 CRO people, not just one. In your
> message on this topic you always make it sound like the CRO ended up in a
> conflict position and this is not entirely true. Actually, during the board

Correct, only Jeff in his role as CRO was a conflict of interest and
(in my opinion) violation of the procedure.  If you were not also a
CRO, then this truly would have been a governance crisis and lack any
shred of legitimacy.  It looks like you noted that you were a good
selection as your term runs for another year.  CROs used to always be
board members with another year remaining on their term thus making
nomination of the CRO impossible.

You've done a great job Vasile and none of your actions or work are
clouded by conflict of interest or violation of procedure.

> meeting when the CRO position was decided I was the one stepping up for this
> role. During that meeting Jeff was invited to manage this year Sol Katz
> award so he was also present. Next topic item was the CRO, the moment when
> Jeff offered his help for CRO, as he did in most of the previous years. The
> log is available at [1]. The board motion was to have two CRO for elections.
> And Jeff did an wonderful job during the new charter members nomination
> process. Then, Jeff stepped down immediately after his nomination for the
> board members elections. He never had access to the electronic voting system
> (that was setup a week later) and his access to c...@osgeo.org email was
> cutoff a few hours later. Personally I share your position that a CRO should
> not be in the situation to be nominated for a position in the elections that

One way to handle that would have been to not accept the nomination
since it did not follow procedure of where to send the nomination and
it was also a nomination of (one of) the CROs which is an additional
violation of procedure.  The Board also could have prevented this
possibility by not appointing a CRO who was able to accept a
nomination.

As you know, the CRO is a position of much work and responsibility and
also privy to lots of information that comes through to the CRO email
alias (you for instance know people who may have been nominated and
declined the nomination).  Being in that position in any portion of
the election process is more than enough to disqualify someone in my
opinion.

> he/she is managing. However, in this case, OSGeo had the position covered
> and the changes were done transparently. I know for a fact that Jeff din not
> think about a nomination when offered his help. It happen and he resign from
> his position to remove the conflict. At that moment I have asked Jorge for
> help for technical problems (not as co-CRO as this should require board
> acceptance and the time was short). All this elections discussions, starting
> with Jeff resignation, were performed through CRO email alias and I can make
> that public if any concerns regarding the impartiality/transparency of the
> elections are raised by you or by anyone else.
>
> Best,
> Vasile
> CRO 2017

In any case Vasile, you've done a great amount of work and continue to
do a good job.  It is clear that the Board sees this as a non-issue in
which case they've done their job.  We elect the Board to act (or not
act) on these issues and we have to live with the Board's actions (or
inactions).  In my opinion, it is not a legitimate election and such
loss of the rule of law in OSGeo could lead to trouble eventually.

Thanks for all your tireless work in this job.

Sorry to everyone on this list having to listen to yet another thread.
Hopefully we can return to our mostly productive work in the various
realms of OSGeo.

Best regards, Eli

>
>
> [1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2017-04-12.log
>
>
>
> On 10/18/17 10:15 PM, Eli Adam wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I
>>> have
>>> been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and
>>> hopefully
>>> attending the next board meeting.
>>>
>>
>> I thought that this issue might have been of enough concern for the
>> Board to deliberate it.  Indeed, I thought that Venka's earlier
>> comment was an indication that that might happen.
>>
>>
>>> I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot thank
>>> the
>>> cro enough for keeping up.
>>>
>>
>> CRO is a very large and difficult job.  Yes, great thanks to the CROs.
>>
>>> I trust the next board meeting will provide an update from the cro and an
>>> opportunity for discussion. The board is in a strange situation during
>>> elections, handing over control of the process to the CRO, and with 1/2
>>> the
>>> participants at the end of their term. If you 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Vasile Craciunescu]

Dear Eli,

I appreciate your concerns related to OSGeo board elections. However, I 
have a few points to make. This year we had 2 CRO people, not just one. 
In your message on this topic you always make it sound like the CRO 
ended up in a conflict position and this is not entirely true. Actually, 
during the board meeting when the CRO position was decided I was the one 
stepping up for this role. During that meeting Jeff was invited to 
manage this year Sol Katz award so he was also present. Next topic item 
was the CRO, the moment when Jeff offered his help for CRO, as he did in 
most of the previous years. The log is available at [1]. The board 
motion was to have two CRO for elections. And Jeff did an wonderful job 
during the new charter members nomination process. Then, Jeff stepped 
down immediately after his nomination for the board members elections. 
He never had access to the electronic voting system (that was setup a 
week later) and his access to c...@osgeo.org email was cutoff a few hours 
later. Personally I share your position that a CRO should not be in the 
situation to be nominated for a position in the elections that he/she is 
managing. However, in this case, OSGeo had the position covered and the 
changes were done transparently. I know for a fact that Jeff din not 
think about a nomination when offered his help. It happen and he resign 
from his position to remove the conflict. At that moment I have asked 
Jorge for help for technical problems (not as co-CRO as this should 
require board acceptance and the time was short). All this elections 
discussions, starting with Jeff resignation, were performed through CRO 
email alias and I can make that public if any concerns regarding the 
impartiality/transparency of the elections are raised by you or by 
anyone else.


Best,
Vasile
CRO 2017


[1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2017-04-12.log


On 10/18/17 10:15 PM, Eli Adam wrote:

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett  wrote:

Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I have
been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and hopefully
attending the next board meeting.



I thought that this issue might have been of enough concern for the
Board to deliberate it.  Indeed, I thought that Venka's earlier
comment was an indication that that might happen.



I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot thank the
cro enough for keeping up.



CRO is a very large and difficult job.  Yes, great thanks to the CROs.


I trust the next board meeting will provide an update from the cro and an
opportunity for discussion. The board is in a strange situation during
elections, handing over control of the process to the CRO, and with 1/2 the
participants at the end of their term. If you track the most recent board
meetings several items have been deferred to the next board, so I understand
the board not feeling able to deliberate in the middle of elections.



Yes, the Board appoints the CRO(s) to run the elections for them.
While the Board can defer some things to future Boards (especially
future looking things), the Board is responsible for anything that
arises while they are on duty.


It is also important to trust the CRO to act in good faith on behalf of our
organization. I did speak up when I was concerned that member list had not
been updated and would interfere in the CRO performing their task - but that
was it.



I largely believe that once a task is delegated, that person has the
latitude to act.  In this case, I would have thought it was worth
deliberation and consultation with the CRO on how they want to run
elections that don't go exactly following the process.


This is a hard lesson to learn, when to deliberate and when to encourage.
Many of the deliberations about foss4g affordability were left until the
Boston F2F meeting, to avoid distracting from the excellent work being done
by the BLOC. If if well intentioned, deliberating during the course of an
activity can distract contributors and bring out feelings of "why bother". I
think this was the bickering referenced during the candidates debate
yesterday.

Finally as a candidate in this election I could not see a clear way to
deliberate the current election that would not be viewed as a personal
attack, or dismissed as campaigning.



This seems rather straight forward.  For the Board to deliberate this
manner fairly, directors like you who are running for reelection would
be obligated to show up for quorum and abstain from discussion and
voting.  The issue would be decided by the portion of the Board with
their term running until 2018 and those who are not running for
reelection.  But yes, I do see how you personally would be hampered
from really engaging this topic.

Best regards, Eli



--
Jody Garnett

On 18 October 2017 at 10:23, Eli Adam  wrote:


On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jorge Sanz 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Venkatesh Raghavan]

Hi Eli,

With the aim of addressing you concern, the date of
nomination and Jeff's involvement, as co-CRO, in the
election was verified. Both these points were
back to you via the discuss list.

My understanding was that the procedures were followed
and therefore I did not request for the matter to be deliberated
by the board. Also, none of the other board member had
requested for the matter to be deliberated by the board.

Rather than matter being of no concern to the board, I think
that the others in the present board were also of the same opinion
as that stated by Mike below, and hence no further discussion
on this matter was taken up by the board.

Best

Venka

On 10/19/2017 4:36 AM, Michael Smith wrote:

What it says is that "The CRO is not eligible for election to the board
while serving as CRO". And that was followed. It doesn't say anything
about being nominated. Resigning from the position, allows Jeff to accept
the nomination. I'm not speaking for the board, just for myself. But in my
opinion, proper procedure was followed.

Mike

Michael Smith
OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
treasu...@osgeo.org




-Original Message-
From: Eli Adam <ea...@co.lincoln.or.us>
Reply-To: <ea...@co.lincoln.or.us>
Date: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 3:26 PM
To: Michael Smith <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com>
Cc: Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>, OSGeo Discussions
<discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, CRO <c...@osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna


On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Michael Smith
<michael.smith.e...@gmail.com> wrote:

Frankly, as a current board member, from what I¹ve seen, everything was
properly followed. As soon as he was nominated, Jeff stepped down as co
CRO.
It was all above board and transparent.


So then perhaps I'm correct in concluding, in the absence of any Board
action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination, I am left
to conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board.

In my opinion, it would be worth the Board deliberating and taking a
position.  This goes back to my initial comment:

I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.

In my evaluation, the person offering the nomination failed in that
they not only did not follow the process but also nominated the CRO.
The CRO failed in that they accepted the position of CRO while there
was a possibility that they would run.  The CRO also failed in that
they then accepted a nomination.  And really it is the Board's failure
in my opinion:

It is really the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that
this situation doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who
might accept a nomination and people who might accept a nomination
should not accept appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the
tradition of the CRO being a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term. CRO is a difficult job and much credit to
those who do it.

But these are just my opinions.  But I think that I am now correct in
concluding, in the absence of any Board action on the legitimacy of
the CRO accepting a nomination, this issue is of no concern to the
Board.

Best regards, Eli



Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I
have
been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and
hopefully
attending the next board meeting.

I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot
thank the
cro enough for keeping up.

I trust the next board meeting will provide an update from the cro and
an
opportunity for discussion. The board is in a strange situation during
elections, handing over control of the process to the CRO, and with 1/2
the
participants at the end of their term. If you track the most recent
board
meetings several items have been deferred to the next board, so I
understand
the board not feeling able to deliberate in the middle of elections.

It is also important to trust the CRO to act in good faith on behalf of
our
organization. I did speak up when I was concerned that member list had
not
been updated and would interfere in the CRO performing their task - but
that
was it.

This is a hard lesson to learn, when to deliberate and when to
encourage.
Many of the deliberations about foss4g affordability were left until the
Boston F2F meeting, to avoid distracting from the excellent work being
done
by the BLOC. If if well intentioned, deliberating during the course of
an
activity can distract contributors and bring out feelings of "why
bother". I
think this was the bickering referenced during the candidates debate
yesterday.

Finally as a candidate in this ele

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Michael Smith]

What it says is that "The CRO is not eligible for election to the board
while serving as CRO". And that was followed. It doesn't say anything
about being nominated. Resigning from the position, allows Jeff to accept
the nomination. I'm not speaking for the board, just for myself. But in my
opinion, proper procedure was followed.

Mike

Michael Smith
OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
treasu...@osgeo.org




-Original Message-
From: Eli Adam <ea...@co.lincoln.or.us>
Reply-To: <ea...@co.lincoln.or.us>
Date: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 3:26 PM
To: Michael Smith <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com>
Cc: Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>, OSGeo Discussions
<discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, CRO <c...@osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

>On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Michael Smith
><michael.smith.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Frankly, as a current board member, from what I¹ve seen, everything was
>> properly followed. As soon as he was nominated, Jeff stepped down as co
>>CRO.
>> It was all above board and transparent.
>>
>
>So then perhaps I'm correct in concluding, in the absence of any Board
>action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination, I am left
>to conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board.
>
>In my opinion, it would be worth the Board deliberating and taking a
>position.  This goes back to my initial comment:
>
>I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
>your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
>In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
>remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
>
>In my evaluation, the person offering the nomination failed in that
>they not only did not follow the process but also nominated the CRO.
>The CRO failed in that they accepted the position of CRO while there
>was a possibility that they would run.  The CRO also failed in that
>they then accepted a nomination.  And really it is the Board's failure
>in my opinion:
>
>It is really the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that
>this situation doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who
>might accept a nomination and people who might accept a nomination
>should not accept appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the
>tradition of the CRO being a sitting Board member with a year
>remaining on their term. CRO is a difficult job and much credit to
>those who do it.
>
>But these are just my opinions.  But I think that I am now correct in
>concluding, in the absence of any Board action on the legitimacy of
>the CRO accepting a nomination, this issue is of no concern to the
>Board.
>
>Best regards, Eli
>
>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>> Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I
>>have
>> been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and
>>hopefully
>> attending the next board meeting.
>>
>> I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot
>>thank the
>> cro enough for keeping up.
>>
>> I trust the next board meeting will provide an update from the cro and
>>an
>> opportunity for discussion. The board is in a strange situation during
>> elections, handing over control of the process to the CRO, and with 1/2
>>the
>> participants at the end of their term. If you track the most recent
>>board
>> meetings several items have been deferred to the next board, so I
>>understand
>> the board not feeling able to deliberate in the middle of elections.
>>
>> It is also important to trust the CRO to act in good faith on behalf of
>>our
>> organization. I did speak up when I was concerned that member list had
>>not
>> been updated and would interfere in the CRO performing their task - but
>>that
>> was it.
>>
>> This is a hard lesson to learn, when to deliberate and when to
>>encourage.
>> Many of the deliberations about foss4g affordability were left until the
>> Boston F2F meeting, to avoid distracting from the excellent work being
>>done
>> by the BLOC. If if well intentioned, deliberating during the course of
>>an
>> activity can distract contributors and bring out feelings of "why
>>bother". I
>> think this was the bickering referenced during the candidates debate
>> yesterday.
>>
>> Finally as a candidate in this election I could not see a clear way to
>> deliberate the current election that would not be viewed as a personal
&g

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Michael Smith
 wrote:
> Frankly, as a current board member, from what I’ve seen, everything was
> properly followed. As soon as he was nominated, Jeff stepped down as co CRO.
> It was all above board and transparent.
>

So then perhaps I'm correct in concluding, in the absence of any Board
action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination, I am left
to conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board.

In my opinion, it would be worth the Board deliberating and taking a
position.  This goes back to my initial comment:

I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.

In my evaluation, the person offering the nomination failed in that
they not only did not follow the process but also nominated the CRO.
The CRO failed in that they accepted the position of CRO while there
was a possibility that they would run.  The CRO also failed in that
they then accepted a nomination.  And really it is the Board's failure
in my opinion:

It is really the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that
this situation doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who
might accept a nomination and people who might accept a nomination
should not accept appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the
tradition of the CRO being a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term. CRO is a difficult job and much credit to
those who do it.

But these are just my opinions.  But I think that I am now correct in
concluding, in the absence of any Board action on the legitimacy of
the CRO accepting a nomination, this issue is of no concern to the
Board.

Best regards, Eli


> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Jody Garnett  wrote:
>
> Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I have
> been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and hopefully
> attending the next board meeting.
>
> I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot thank the
> cro enough for keeping up.
>
> I trust the next board meeting will provide an update from the cro and an
> opportunity for discussion. The board is in a strange situation during
> elections, handing over control of the process to the CRO, and with 1/2 the
> participants at the end of their term. If you track the most recent board
> meetings several items have been deferred to the next board, so I understand
> the board not feeling able to deliberate in the middle of elections.
>
> It is also important to trust the CRO to act in good faith on behalf of our
> organization. I did speak up when I was concerned that member list had not
> been updated and would interfere in the CRO performing their task - but that
> was it.
>
> This is a hard lesson to learn, when to deliberate and when to encourage.
> Many of the deliberations about foss4g affordability were left until the
> Boston F2F meeting, to avoid distracting from the excellent work being done
> by the BLOC. If if well intentioned, deliberating during the course of an
> activity can distract contributors and bring out feelings of "why bother". I
> think this was the bickering referenced during the candidates debate
> yesterday.
>
> Finally as a candidate in this election I could not see a clear way to
> deliberate the current election that would not be viewed as a personal
> attack, or dismissed as campaigning.
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 18 October 2017 at 10:23, Eli Adam  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
>> > HI Eli,
>> >
>> > If I recall correctly, we answered you that Jeff immediately resigned
>> > from
>> > his position as CRO and he has not been involved at all in any Board
>> > elections CRO activity so everything is correctly handled except (and we
>> > apologized for that) the lack of a Trac ticket for the alias change.
>>
>> Thanks Jorge.  I know those are the events that happened, however, I
>> never saw the Board deliberate and consider whether that is acceptable
>> or not.  In my opinion, it is not, however I'm not on the Board, nor
>> is one Director's opinion a position of the Board.  In the absence of
>> any Board action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
>> I was left to conclude "that this issue is of no concern to the
>> Board."
>>
>> Has the Board deliberated or considered this?  Did they take a position?
>>
>> The reason to have a process and follow it even when you maybe don't
>> "need" it, is so that you also follow the process when you *do* need
>> it.
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 18 October 2017 at 18:07, Eli Adam  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Venka, all,
>> >>
>> >> 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Michael Smith]

Frankly, as a current board member, from what I’ve seen, everything was 
properly followed. As soon as he was nominated, Jeff stepped down as co CRO. It 
was all above board and transparent. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Jody Garnett  wrote:
> 
> Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I have 
> been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and hopefully 
> attending the next board meeting. 
> 
> I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot thank the 
> cro enough for keeping up.
> 
> I trust the next board meeting will provide an update from the cro and an 
> opportunity for discussion. The board is in a strange situation during 
> elections, handing over control of the process to the CRO, and with 1/2 the 
> participants at the end of their term. If you track the most recent board 
> meetings several items have been deferred to the next board, so I understand 
> the board not feeling able to deliberate in the middle of elections. 
> 
> It is also important to trust the CRO to act in good faith on behalf of our 
> organization. I did speak up when I was concerned that member list had not 
> been updated and would interfere in the CRO performing their task - but that 
> was it.
> 
> This is a hard lesson to learn, when to deliberate and when to encourage. 
> Many of the deliberations about foss4g affordability were left until the 
> Boston F2F meeting, to avoid distracting from the excellent work being done 
> by the BLOC. If if well intentioned, deliberating during the course of an 
> activity can distract contributors and bring out feelings of "why bother". I 
> think this was the bickering referenced during the candidates debate 
> yesterday.
> 
> Finally as a candidate in this election I could not see a clear way to 
> deliberate the current election that would not be viewed as a personal 
> attack, or dismissed as campaigning.
> 
> 
> --
> Jody Garnett
> 
>> On 18 October 2017 at 10:23, Eli Adam  wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
>> > HI Eli,
>> >
>> > If I recall correctly, we answered you that Jeff immediately resigned from
>> > his position as CRO and he has not been involved at all in any Board
>> > elections CRO activity so everything is correctly handled except (and we
>> > apologized for that) the lack of a Trac ticket for the alias change.
>> 
>> Thanks Jorge.  I know those are the events that happened, however, I
>> never saw the Board deliberate and consider whether that is acceptable
>> or not.  In my opinion, it is not, however I'm not on the Board, nor
>> is one Director's opinion a position of the Board.  In the absence of
>> any Board action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
>> I was left to conclude "that this issue is of no concern to the
>> Board."
>> 
>> Has the Board deliberated or considered this?  Did they take a position?
>> 
>> The reason to have a process and follow it even when you maybe don't
>> "need" it, is so that you also follow the process when you *do* need
>> it.
>> 
>> Best regards, Eli
>> 
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 18 October 2017 at 18:07, Eli Adam  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Venka, all,
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Eli Adam  wrote:
>> >> > Hi Venka,
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Eli,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
>> >> >> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, thanks Jorge.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> >> >> their last meeting,
>> >> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> >> >> of no concern to the Board.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> arise
>> >> >> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
>> >> > that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
>> >> > suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
>> >> > unknown.
>> >>
>> >> It appears that voting has now started and I don't see any Board
>> >> threads on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
>> >> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/thread.html
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
>> >> >> process.
>> >> >
>> >> > Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
>> >> > making noise and allow the proper process to work.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Should I now conclude that this issue is of 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Jody Garnett]

Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I have
been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and
hopefully attending the next board meeting.

I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot thank
the cro enough for keeping up.

I trust the next board meeting will provide an update from the cro and an
opportunity for discussion. The board is in a strange situation during
elections, handing over control of the process to the CRO, and with 1/2 the
participants at the end of their term. If you track the most recent board
meetings several items have been deferred to the next board, so I
understand the board not feeling able to deliberate in the middle of
elections.

It is also important to trust the CRO to act in good faith on behalf of our
organization. I did speak up when I was concerned that member list had not
been updated and would interfere in the CRO performing their task - but
that was it.

This is a hard lesson to learn, when to deliberate and when to encourage.
Many of the deliberations about foss4g affordability were left until the
Boston F2F meeting, to avoid distracting from the excellent work being done
by the BLOC. If if well intentioned, deliberating during the course of an
activity can distract contributors and bring out feelings of "why bother".
I think this was the bickering referenced during the candidates debate
yesterday.

Finally as a candidate in this election I could not see a clear way to
deliberate the current election that would not be viewed as a personal
attack, or dismissed as campaigning.


--
Jody Garnett

On 18 October 2017 at 10:23, Eli Adam  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
> > HI Eli,
> >
> > If I recall correctly, we answered you that Jeff immediately resigned
> from
> > his position as CRO and he has not been involved at all in any Board
> > elections CRO activity so everything is correctly handled except (and we
> > apologized for that) the lack of a Trac ticket for the alias change.
>
> Thanks Jorge.  I know those are the events that happened, however, I
> never saw the Board deliberate and consider whether that is acceptable
> or not.  In my opinion, it is not, however I'm not on the Board, nor
> is one Director's opinion a position of the Board.  In the absence of
> any Board action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
> I was left to conclude "that this issue is of no concern to the
> Board."
>
> Has the Board deliberated or considered this?  Did they take a position?
>
> The reason to have a process and follow it even when you maybe don't
> "need" it, is so that you also follow the process when you *do* need
> it.
>
> Best regards, Eli
>
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 October 2017 at 18:07, Eli Adam  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Venka, all,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Eli Adam 
> wrote:
> >> > Hi Venka,
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> Hi Eli,
> >> >>
> >> >> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
> >> >> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, thanks Jorge.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
> >> >>
> >> >> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
> >> >> their last meeting,
> >> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it
> is
> >> >> of no concern to the Board.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did
> >> >> not
> >> >> arise
> >> >> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
> >> > that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
> >> > suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
> >> > unknown.
> >>
> >> It appears that voting has now started and I don't see any Board
> >> threads on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
> >> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/thread.html
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
> >> >> process.
> >> >
> >> > Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
> >> > making noise and allow the proper process to work.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Should I now conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board?
> >>
> >> Best regards, Eli
> >>
> >>
> >> > Best regards, Eli
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Best
> >> >>
> >> >> Venka
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Eli,
> >> >>
> >> >> I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
> >> >>
> >> >> I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and
> >> >> me.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jorge Sanz
> >> >> 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
> HI Eli,
>
> If I recall correctly, we answered you that Jeff immediately resigned from
> his position as CRO and he has not been involved at all in any Board
> elections CRO activity so everything is correctly handled except (and we
> apologized for that) the lack of a Trac ticket for the alias change.

Thanks Jorge.  I know those are the events that happened, however, I
never saw the Board deliberate and consider whether that is acceptable
or not.  In my opinion, it is not, however I'm not on the Board, nor
is one Director's opinion a position of the Board.  In the absence of
any Board action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
I was left to conclude "that this issue is of no concern to the
Board."

Has the Board deliberated or considered this?  Did they take a position?

The reason to have a process and follow it even when you maybe don't
"need" it, is so that you also follow the process when you *do* need
it.

Best regards, Eli

>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> On 18 October 2017 at 18:07, Eli Adam  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Venka, all,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Eli Adam  wrote:
>> > Hi Venka,
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Hi Eli,
>> >>
>> >> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
>> >> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.
>> >
>> > Yes, thanks Jorge.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
>> >>
>> >> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> >> their last meeting,
>> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> >> of no concern to the Board.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did
>> >> not
>> >> arise
>> >> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.
>> >
>> > Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
>> > that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
>> > suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
>> > unknown.
>>
>> It appears that voting has now started and I don't see any Board
>> threads on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/thread.html
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
>> >> process.
>> >
>> > Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
>> > making noise and allow the proper process to work.
>> >
>>
>> Should I now conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board?
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>>
>> > Best regards, Eli
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Best
>> >>
>> >> Venka
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Eli,
>> >>
>> >> I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
>> >>
>> >> I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and
>> >> me.
>> >> --
>> >> Jorge Sanz
>> >> https://jorgesanz.net
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos
>> >>
>> >> El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Eli,
>> >> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
>> >>
>> >> co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
>> >>
>> >> I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
>> >> for pointing it out to me.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
>> >>
>> >> he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
>> >>
>> >> Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
>> >> for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
>> >> proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> >> their last meeting,
>> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> >> of no concern to the Board.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards, Eli
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Gérald Fenoy
>> >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>> >>
>> >> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
>> >>
>> >> Nicolas,
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
>> >>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
>> >>
>> >> Directors
>> >>
>> >> election.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
>> >> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
>> >> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
>> >> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
>> >>
>> >> Most 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Jorge Sanz]

HI Eli,

If I recall correctly, we answered you that Jeff immediately resigned from
his position as CRO and he has not been involved at all in any Board
elections CRO activity so everything is correctly handled except (and we
apologized for that) the lack of a Trac ticket for the alias change.

Kind regards



On 18 October 2017 at 18:07, Eli Adam  wrote:

> Hi Venka, all,
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Eli Adam  wrote:
> > Hi Venka,
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi Eli,
> >>
> >> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
> >> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.
> >
> > Yes, thanks Jorge.
> >
> >>
> >> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
> >>
> >> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
> >> their last meeting,
> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
> >> of no concern to the Board.
> >>
> >>
> >> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did
> not
> >> arise
> >> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.
> >
> > Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
> > that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
> > suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
> > unknown.
>
> It appears that voting has now started and I don't see any Board
> threads on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/thread.html
>
> >
> >>
> >> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
> >> process.
> >
> > Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
> > making noise and allow the proper process to work.
> >
>
> Should I now conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board?
>
> Best regards, Eli
>
>
> > Best regards, Eli
> >
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Venka
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Eli,
> >>
> >> I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
> >>
> >> I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and
> me.
> >> --
> >> Jorge Sanz
> >> https://jorgesanz.net
> >>
> >> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos
> >>
> >> El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Eli,
> >> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
> >>
> >> co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
> >>
> >> I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
> >> for pointing it out to me.
> >>
> >> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
> >>
> >> he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
> >>
> >> Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
> >> for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
> >> proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
> >> their last meeting,
> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
> >> of no concern to the Board.
> >>
> >> Best regards, Eli
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Gérald Fenoy
> >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
> >>
> >> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
> >>
> >> Nicolas,
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
> >>
> >> Directors
> >>
> >> election.
> >>
> >> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
> >> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
> >> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
> >> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
> >>
> >> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
> >> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
> >>
> >> contributions
> >>
> >> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and
> >>
> >> long
> >>
> >> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who
> >>
> >> may
> >>
> >> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good
> >>
> >> read
> >>
> >> before you vote.
> >>
> >> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
> >>
> >> understanding of
> >>
> >> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan.
> >>
> >> Experienced
> >>
> >> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> people. He is always ready to 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

Hi Venka, all,

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Eli Adam  wrote:
> Hi Venka,
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
>  wrote:
>> Hi Eli,
>>
>> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
>> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.
>
> Yes, thanks Jorge.
>
>>
>> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
>>
>> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> their last meeting,
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> of no concern to the Board.
>>
>>
>> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did not
>> arise
>> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.
>
> Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
> that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
> suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
> unknown.

It appears that voting has now started and I don't see any Board
threads on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/thread.html

>
>>
>> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
>> process.
>
> Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
> making noise and allow the proper process to work.
>

Should I now conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board?

Best regards, Eli


> Best regards, Eli
>
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Venka
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eli,
>>
>> I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
>>
>> I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and me.
>> --
>> Jorge Sanz
>> https://jorgesanz.net
>>
>> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos
>>
>> El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Eli,
>> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
>>
>> co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
>>
>> I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
>> for pointing it out to me.
>>
>> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
>>
>> he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
>>
>> Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
>> for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
>> proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> their last meeting,
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> of no concern to the Board.
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
>>
>>
>> Gérald Fenoy
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>>
>> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
>>
>> Nicolas,
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
>>
>> Directors
>>
>> election.
>>
>> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
>> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
>> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
>> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
>>
>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
>>
>> contributions
>>
>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and
>>
>> long
>>
>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of
>>
>> the
>>
>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who
>>
>> may
>>
>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good
>>
>> read
>>
>> before you vote.
>>
>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
>>
>> understanding of
>>
>> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan.
>>
>> Experienced
>>
>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects
>>
>> and
>>
>> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent
>>
>> globally.
>>
>> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
>> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
>> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Nicolas Bozon
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the
>>
>> nomination
>>
>> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to
>>
>> confirm to
>>
>> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page
>>
>> still
>>
>> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
>> nomination 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Edwin Liava'a]

+1 Likewise, All The Best Jeff

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Ravi Kumar 
wrote:

> +1  All the best Jeff
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:18 AM, nicolas bozon 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors
>> election.
>>
>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions
>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long
>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may
>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
>> before you vote.
>>
>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding
>> of both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced
>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and
>> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.
>>
>> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
>> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
>> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Nicolas Bozon
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination
>> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm
>> to himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still
>> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
>> nomination process in this special case.
>> ---
>>
>> ___
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
>
> ___
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Ravi Kumar]

+1  All the best Jeff

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:18 AM, nicolas bozon 
wrote:

>
> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors
> election.
>
> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions
> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long
> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may
> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
> before you vote.
>
> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding
> of both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced
> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and
> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.
>
> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas Bozon
>
>
> ---
> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination
> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm
> to himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still
> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
> nomination process in this special case.
> ---
>
> ___
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
___
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Jeff McKenna]

Thank you Eli for this concern, as when I was nominated I immediately 
realized the potential for a conflict of interest, and resigned as co-CRO.


It was not something I planned, giving a month of my time to the 
election and then stopping, but I agree with you that a more formal 
process for selecting the upcoming election CROs is needed.  I actually 
would like to see the CROs involved in the whole process, including when 
any changes to the voting/nomination process are needed.  So there is 
definitely room for improvement here.


-jeff




On 2017-10-11 2:15 PM, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:

Hi Eli,

First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
and fixing the CRO alias promptly.

Regarding your other comment reproduced below;

The Board did not appear to review this topic at
their last meeting,
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
of no concern to the Board.


The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did 
not arise

as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.

I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
process.

Best

Venka



On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:

Hi Eli,

I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.

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El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:


On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald
wrote:

Dear Eli,
as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of

co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].

I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
for pointing it out to me.


Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but

he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
Was the...@osgeo.org  email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
their last meeting,
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
of no concern to the Board.

Best regards, Eli


Best regards,

[1]https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html


Gérald Fenoy
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay


Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :

Nicolas,

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon

wrote:

It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of

Directors

election.

I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
your nomination,https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.


Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless

contributions

over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and

long

involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of

the

Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who

may

really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good

read

before you vote.

Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep

understanding of

both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan.

Experienced

with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects

and

people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent

globally.

Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
welcome Jeff back at the Board!


Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the

nomination

directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to

confirm to

himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page

still

need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
nomination process in this special case.
---

The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
CRO is a difficult job and much credit 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Jeff McKenna]

Thanks for your words Cameron, I will do my best to address your 
concerns here now.


In a sense it is good that you bring up all this history, as it gives me 
a chance to clarify what actually happened.


In 2011 I had been doing so much for FOSS4G for so long, all those 
non-glorious tasks that helped build what FOSS4G is today, that I knew 
that we were approaching a critical point where we were asking too much 
of volunteers to make the next FOSS4G event happen.


Fellow leaders Venka, Gérald, and I had boots on the ground in China in 
2010 I believe, and we really pushed for FOSS4G-China to happen, but we 
all knew the effort involved, demanding more of a face-to-face approach, 
than past event planning.  With my many hats (chair of conference 
committee, then on every single local committee of FOSS4G, and Board 
member) I knew that for FOSS4G-2012 Beijing to happen we must invest 
boots-on-the-ground help, and be sure to guide the event to completion. 
Bringing FOSS4G to China was very important to me.


So what then happened would become one of my proudest moments in OSGeo: 
I very publicly proposed a partially funded "FOSS4G Advisor" role to 
mentor the Beijing team, and work closely from start to finish, back in 
2011, to do all of the little things.  The document lists so many 
important little tasks, but the last section says it the best:


 - propose role/position to OSGeo Board
 - once approved, introduce new role to FOSS4G 2012 local committee
 - do the work!

It was what I knew (and having created the FOSS4G conference committee, 
been on every local committee until then, only I knew this) had to 
happen, and right away.


Unfortunately the proposal was never approved by the OSGeo Board, and 
this devastated me, as I knew this was what was needed to make the event 
a success.  I would later resign from the OSGeo Board over that.


Fast forward a year, and the event never happened.  It was exactly what 
I warned.  To this day I feel such a role is needed for FOSS4G.  Here is 
my original document, note that tasks, costs, effort, everything is in 
the open and visible, for a future FOSS4G team to use: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Advisor_Role


(I would learn later that the German FOSSGIS organizers hired someone 
for that exact role, doing the little things each event to make sure 
consistency and a smooth transition happens)


I hope this explains what happened Cameron.   Regarding so many people 
contacting you about concerns of me, please let them know that I am here 
to talk, if they feel the need to voice concerns.


Thank you for your message Cameron, I'll address your next email 
examining my career in a response shortly.


-jeff




On 2017-10-09 5:42 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Jeff,

I've had a number of people correct me to note that you have resigned 
twice from the board. Also from the conference committee and FOSS4G 
mentoring role as the global FOSS4G China was facing very hard decisions 
based on low registration numbers.


References:

Resignation from board in 2015: 
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-December/008820.html


Resignation from board and conference committee in 2012: 
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-February/004544.html


Stepping back from mentoring FOSS4G China: 
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/004514.html


Lessons Learned from FOSS4G China: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2012_Lessons_Learned




On 9/10/17 10:01 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:


Jeff,

While I agree with others that you have been very enthusiastic toward 
OSGeo ideals, I'm also believe that there are some unanswered 
questions which should be addressed.


In particular, a while back you stepped down from the OSGeo Board 
mid-term, while you were in the position of OSGeo president. I don't 
think a public explanation was provided, but I was aware that there 
was some passionate discussion happening in public email lists at the 
time.


If you are considering sitting on the board again, I think an 
explanation should be provided.


Regards, Cameron


On 9/10/17 8:48 am, nicolas bozon wrote:


It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of 
Directors election.


Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and 
i would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless 
contributions over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His 
leadership and long involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities 
made him the Winner of the Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add 
more. For those of you who may really not know Jeff yet, the 
User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read before you vote.


Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep 
understanding of both the director role and the current OSGeo 
strategic plan. Experienced with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff 
also knows a lot about projects and people. He is always ready to 
help build locally and to represent globally.


Jeff 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Jeff McKenna]

Thank you Cameron for kind words.   I am sure there are questions, and I 
am here to answer them for you.


As a long-time volunteer for OSGeo, I have always tried to represent the 
foundation and its community every step of the way.  During my term as 
President of OSGeo, we were really tackling the subject of the 
LocationTech-OSGeo relationship, and it became a very public discussion. 
I worked very hard to represent OSGeo, but sometimes my words may have 
been too strong towards Andrea Ross, and that could be my biggest fault. 
 When a letter was posted online criticizing me, and then shared to me 
during a Board meeting, this absolutely broke me.  I don't recommend 
anyone goes through that, seeing online words written about you, it was 
quite a feeling.


I was doing so much for OSGeo, making sure to give each issue or 
challenge time and effort, listening, and then talking, always publicly, 
that I obviously made many mistakes.  This can happen when you are so 
open, trying to make sure all of the community is informed.  At the 
time, when that happened, I felt that I was no longer doing the job 
(note that it is a job, fulltime, unpaid yes, but it is definitely a 
job, make no mistake) of the OSGeo President and I resigned immediately.


I have learned a lot since then, and for several years I worked on 
low-level OSGeo tasks, again helping wherever needed. But meeting Marc 
and Thea at FOSS4G-Boston and talking face to face gave me so much 
confidence, in the whole community - I am sure that both Thea and Marc 
felt the same way after our talk.  It was just so needed, and only the 
start of what I predict will become something magical.


You have many more emails and questions examining my career, which I 
will tackle in the next response.


Thank you for your words, more shortly,

-jeff



On 2017-10-09 8:01 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Jeff,

While I agree with others that you have been very enthusiastic toward 
OSGeo ideals, I'm also believe that there are some unanswered questions 
which should be addressed.


In particular, a while back you stepped down from the OSGeo Board 
mid-term, while you were in the position of OSGeo president. I don't 
think a public explanation was provided, but I was aware that there was 
some passionate discussion happening in public email lists at the time.


If you are considering sitting on the board again, I think an 
explanation should be provided.


Regards, Cameron


On 9/10/17 8:48 am, nicolas bozon wrote:


It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of 
Directors election.


Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and 
i would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless 
contributions over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His 
leadership and long involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities 
made him the Winner of the Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add 
more. For those of you who may really not know Jeff yet, the 
User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read before you vote.


Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep 
understanding of both the director role and the current OSGeo 
strategic plan. Experienced with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff 
also knows a lot about projects and people. He is always ready to help 
build locally and to represent globally.


Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i 
believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us 
all welcome Jeff back at the Board!



Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the 
nomination directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids 
Jeff to confirm to himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board 
Nominations page still need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? 
Sorry for shortening the nomination process in this special case.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna And Sanghee Shin

[Jeff McKenna]

Thank you for the support Suchith.  It was great to share our similar 
visions on the stage at FOSS4G-Paris, your effort for GeoForAll is 
inspiring, and I always go out of my way to promote it every chance I 
get.  -jeff




On 2017-10-09 5:04 AM, Suchith Anand wrote:

+ for Jeff, Sanghee and Dirk.

Best wishes,

Suchith


From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Marc Vloemans 
<marcvloema...@gmail.com>
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Cc: OSGeo CRO
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna And Sanghee
Shin

+1 Jeff And Sanghee

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


Op 9 okt. 2017 om 00:38 heeft Vicky Vergara 
<vi...@georepublic.de<mailto:vi...@georepublic.de>> het volgende geschreven:

I would like to second this nomination.
I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that Jeff has for 
being in the board.
His energy is contagious.
His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met


Vicky



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
<nicolas.bo...@gmail.com<mailto:nicolas.bo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors 
election.

Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i would 
probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions over the 
years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long involvement in 
the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the Solz Katz Award in 
2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may really not know Jeff yet, 
the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read before you vote.

Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding of 
both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced with 
OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and people. 
He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.

Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i believe 
he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all welcome Jeff 
back at the Board!


Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
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to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the nomination 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Jeff McKenna]

Thank you for the support Silvia!  It was so great to see you at 
FOSS4G-Paris.  Can't wait to see you again and have a laugh together! -jeff




On 2017-10-09 3:28 AM, Silvia Franceschi wrote:

Absolutely agree with this nomination!

+1 for Jeff

Silvia


On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:20 AM, 林博文 > wrote:


I support the nomination of Jeff McKenna and I agree with Nicholas's
Recommendation.

For a long time, he contributed to the spread of FOSS4G Softeware to
Asia and Europe.
Tributaries Everyone in the Japanese community loves Jeff.
He is widely known to the world after contemplating the MS4W. When
the OSGeo began, MapServer and MS4W played a contribution that could
be said to be indispensable to WebGIS at the time.
And all that he experienced from that time to now forms his OSGeo mind.

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2017-10-09 7:38 GMT+09:00 Vicky Vergara >:

I would like to second this nomination.
I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that
Jeff has for being in the board.
His energy is contagious.
His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met


Vicky



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon
> wrote:


It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board
of Directors election.

Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything
OSGeo, and i would probably be mistaken trying to summarize
his countless contributions over the years, at every level
of our Foundation. His leadership and long involvement in
the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of
you who may really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna
wiki page is a good read before you vote.

Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
understanding of both the director role and the current
OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced with OSGeo governance and
bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and people. He
is always ready to help build locally and to represent
globally.

Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community
leader, and i believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director
again. Please let us all welcome Jeff back at the Board!


Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
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the nomination directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO,
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nomination. The Board Nominations page still need to be
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[Jeff McKenna]

Thank you for the support Hayashi-san.   I have really tried to spread 
FOSS4G and OSGeo all over Asia and Europe, as you mentioned.  I also 
truly love the OSGeo-Japan community, I feel like I am a long-time 
member of OSGeo-JP, and that a huge part of my growth as a person and a 
community member is due to the kindness and appreciation shown to me 
from so many OSGeo-JP members.


I miss you dearly and I am sure that I will see you soon in person at a 
FOSS4G event somewhere! -jeff




On 2017-10-09 3:20 AM, 林博文 wrote:
I support the nomination of Jeff McKenna and I agree with Nicholas's 
Recommendation.


For a long time, he contributed to the spread of FOSS4G Softeware to 
Asia and Europe.

Tributaries Everyone in the Japanese community loves Jeff.
He is widely known to the world after contemplating the MS4W. When the 
OSGeo began, MapServer and MS4W played a contribution that could be said 
to be indispensable to WebGIS at the time.

And all that he experienced from that time to now forms his OSGeo mind.

Hayashi.


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2017-10-09 7:38 GMT+09:00 Vicky Vergara >:


I would like to second this nomination.
I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that Jeff
has for being in the board.
His energy is contagious.
His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met


Vicky



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon
> wrote:


It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
Directors election.

Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything
OSGeo, and i would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his
countless contributions over the years, at every level of our
Foundation. His leadership and long involvement in the OSGeo and
FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the Solz Katz Award in
2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may really not
know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
before you vote.

Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
understanding of both the director role and the current OSGeo
strategic plan. Experienced with OSGeo governance and bylaws,
Jeff also knows a lot about projects and people. He is always
ready to help build locally and to represent globally.

Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader,
and i believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again.
Please let us all welcome Jeff back at the Board!


Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna And Sanghee Shin

[Jeff McKenna]

Thank you for the support Marc.  Indeed this class of Board volunteers 
is amazing, a really tough decision as each and every nominee is a true 
leader for OSGeo.   A great problem to have!  -jeff




On 2017-10-09 2:10 AM, Marc Vloemans wrote:

+1 Jeff And Sanghee

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


Op 9 okt. 2017 om 00:38 heeft Vicky Vergara > het volgende geschreven:



I would like to second this nomination.
I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that Jeff 
has for being in the board.

His energy is contagious.
His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met


Vicky



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon > wrote:



It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
Directors election.

Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo,
and i would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
contributions over the years, at every level of our Foundation.
His leadership and long involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G
communities made him the Winner of the Solz Katz Award in 2016,
and i cannot add more. For those of you who may really not know
Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read before
you vote.

Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
understanding of both the director role and the current OSGeo
strategic plan. Experienced with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff
also knows a lot about projects and people. He is always ready to
help build locally and to represent globally.

Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader,
and i believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please
let us all welcome Jeff back at the Board!


Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
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nomination directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it
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[Jeff McKenna]

Thank you for the kind support Vicky, looking forward to seeing you soon 
and having long OSGeo talks at FOSS4G-Sotm-Argentina (continued from our 
great talks at FOSS4G-Seoul).  I'll bring the old OSGeo banner, so we 
can help setup a little OSGeo booth there (on my to-do is to order an 
updated banner, as I go to so many local FOSS4G events it's a good 
investment for me, to help promote OSGeo), and we can print your Summer 
of Code flyers there as well.  See you soon!


PS. my goal is to respond to all nomination messages today, lots to do 
for OSGeo always ha!


-jeff



On 2017-10-08 7:38 PM, Vicky Vergara wrote:

I would like to second this nomination.
I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that Jeff has 
for being in the board.

His energy is contagious.
His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met


Vicky



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon > wrote:



It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
Directors election.

Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo,
and i would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
contributions over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His
leadership and long involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities
made him the Winner of the Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add
more. For those of you who may really not know Jeff yet, the
User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read before you vote.

Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
understanding of both the director role and the current OSGeo
strategic plan. Experienced with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff
also knows a lot about projects and people. He is always ready to
help build locally and to represent globally.

Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and
i believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let
us all welcome Jeff back at the Board!


Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the
nomination directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids
Jeff to confirm to himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board
Nominations page still need to be updated, could you please Vasile ?
Sorry for shortening the nomination process in this special case.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

Hi Venka,

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
 wrote:
> Hi Eli,
>
> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.

Yes, thanks Jorge.

>
> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
>
> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
> their last meeting,
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
> of no concern to the Board.
>
>
> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did not
> arise
> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.

Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
unknown.

>
> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
> process.

Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
making noise and allow the proper process to work.

Best regards, Eli

>
> Best
>
> Venka
>
>
>
>
> On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>
> Hi Eli,
>
> I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
>
> I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and me.
> --
> Jorge Sanz
> https://jorgesanz.net
>
> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos
>
> El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Eli,
> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
>
> co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
>
> I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
> for pointing it out to me.
>
> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
>
> he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
>
> Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
> for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
> proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
> their last meeting,
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
> of no concern to the Board.
>
> Best regards, Eli
>
> Best regards,
>
> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
>
>
> Gérald Fenoy
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>
> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
>
> Nicolas,
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
>
> wrote:
>
> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
>
> Directors
>
> election.
>
> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
>
> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
>
> contributions
>
> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and
>
> long
>
> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of
>
> the
>
> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who
>
> may
>
> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good
>
> read
>
> before you vote.
>
> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
>
> understanding of
>
> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan.
>
> Experienced
>
> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects
>
> and
>
> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent
>
> globally.
>
> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas Bozon
>
>
> ---
> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the
>
> nomination
>
> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to
>
> confirm to
>
> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page
>
> still
>
> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
> nomination process in this special case.
> ---
>
> The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
> the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
> counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
> the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
> doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
> nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
> appointment as CRO.  Maybe we 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Venkatesh Raghavan]

Hi Eli,

First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
and fixing the CRO alias promptly.

Regarding your other comment reproduced below;

The Board did not appear to review this topic at
their last meeting,
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
of no concern to the Board.


The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did 
not arise

as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.

I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
process.

Best

Venka



On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:

Hi Eli,

I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.

I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and me.
--
Jorge Sanz
https://jorgesanz.net

Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos

El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:


On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald 
wrote:

Dear Eli,
as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of

co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].

I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
for pointing it out to me.


Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but

he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
their last meeting,
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
of no concern to the Board.

Best regards, Eli


Best regards,

[1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html


Gérald Fenoy
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay


Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :

Nicolas,

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon 

wrote:

It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of

Directors

election.

I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.


Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless

contributions

over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and

long

involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of

the

Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who

may

really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good

read

before you vote.

Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep

understanding of

both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan.

Experienced

with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects

and

people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent

globally.

Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
welcome Jeff back at the Board!


Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the

nomination

directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to

confirm to

himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page

still

need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
nomination process in this special case.
---

The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
CRO is a difficult job and much credit to those who do it.  Also,
someone (other than me) should be paying attention to the basic
process and raise these issues.

Best regards, Eli



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Jorge Sanz]

Hi Eli,

I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.

I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and me.
--
Jorge Sanz
https://jorgesanz.net

Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos

El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:

> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald 
> wrote:
> > Dear Eli,
> > as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
> co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
>
> I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
> for pointing it out to me.
>
> >
> > Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
> he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
> >
>
> Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
> for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
> proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
> their last meeting,
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
> of no concern to the Board.
>
> Best regards, Eli
>
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
> >
> >
> > Gérald Fenoy
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
> >
> >> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
> >>
> >> Nicolas,
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
> Directors
> >>> election.
> >>
> >> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
> >> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
> >> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
> >> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
> >>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
> contributions
> >>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and
> long
> >>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of
> the
> >>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who
> may
> >>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good
> read
> >>> before you vote.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
> understanding of
> >>> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan.
> Experienced
> >>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects
> and
> >>> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent
> globally.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
> >>> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
> >>> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Nicolas Bozon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the
> nomination
> >>> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to
> confirm to
> >>> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page
> still
> >>> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
> >>> nomination process in this special case.
> >>> ---
> >>
> >> The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
> >> the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
> >> counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
> >> the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
> >> doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
> >> nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
> >> appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
> >> CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
> >> CRO is a difficult job and much credit to those who do it.  Also,
> >> someone (other than me) should be paying attention to the basic
> >> process and raise these issues.
> >>
> >> Best regards, Eli
> >>
> >>
> >>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald  wrote:
> Dear Eli,
> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of co-CRO 
> when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].

I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
for pointing it out to me.

>
> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but he is 
> no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
>

Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
their last meeting,
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
of no concern to the Board.

Best regards, Eli

>
> Best regards,
>
> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
>
>
> Gérald Fenoy
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>
>> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
>>
>> Nicolas,
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors
>>> election.
>>
>> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
>> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
>> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
>> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
>>
>>>
>>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
>>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions
>>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long
>>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
>>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may
>>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
>>> before you vote.
>>>
>>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding of
>>> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced
>>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and
>>> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.
>>>
>>> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
>>> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
>>> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Nicolas Bozon
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination
>>> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm to
>>> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still
>>> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
>>> nomination process in this special case.
>>> ---
>>
>> The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
>> the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
>> counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
>> the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
>> doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
>> nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
>> appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
>> CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
>> CRO is a difficult job and much credit to those who do it.  Also,
>> someone (other than me) should be paying attention to the basic
>> process and raise these issues.
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>>
>>>
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>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Fenoy Gerald]

Dear Eli,
as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of co-CRO when 
accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].

Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but he is no 
more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.

Best regards,

[1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html


Gérald Fenoy
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay

> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
> 
> Nicolas,
> 
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon  wrote:
>> 
>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors
>> election.
> 
> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
> 
>> 
>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions
>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long
>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may
>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
>> before you vote.
>> 
>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding of
>> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced
>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and
>> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.
>> 
>> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
>> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
>> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Nicolas Bozon
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination
>> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm to
>> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still
>> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
>> nomination process in this special case.
>> ---
> 
> The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
> the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
> counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
> the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
> doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
> nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
> appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
> CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
> CRO is a difficult job and much credit to those who do it.  Also,
> someone (other than me) should be paying attention to the basic
> process and raise these issues.
> 
> Best regards, Eli
> 
> 
>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

Nicolas,

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon  wrote:
>
> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors
> election.

I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.

>
> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions
> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long
> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may
> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
> before you vote.
>
> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding of
> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced
> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and
> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.
>
> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas Bozon
>
>
> ---
> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination
> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm to
> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still
> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
> nomination process in this special case.
> ---

The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
CRO is a difficult job and much credit to those who do it.  Also,
someone (other than me) should be paying attention to the basic
process and raise these issues.

Best regards, Eli


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Cameron Shorter]

Jeff,

I've had a number of people correct me to note that you have resigned 
twice from the board. Also from the conference committee and FOSS4G 
mentoring role as the global FOSS4G China was facing very hard decisions 
based on low registration numbers.


References:

Resignation from board in 2015: 
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-December/008820.html


Resignation from board and conference committee in 2012: 
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-February/004544.html


Stepping back from mentoring FOSS4G China: 
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/004514.html


Lessons Learned from FOSS4G China: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2012_Lessons_Learned




On 9/10/17 10:01 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:


Jeff,

While I agree with others that you have been very enthusiastic toward 
OSGeo ideals, I'm also believe that there are some unanswered 
questions which should be addressed.


In particular, a while back you stepped down from the OSGeo Board 
mid-term, while you were in the position of OSGeo president. I don't 
think a public explanation was provided, but I was aware that there 
was some passionate discussion happening in public email lists at the 
time.


If you are considering sitting on the board again, I think an 
explanation should be provided.


Regards, Cameron


On 9/10/17 8:48 am, nicolas bozon wrote:


It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of 
Directors election.


Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and 
i would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless 
contributions over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His 
leadership and long involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities 
made him the Winner of the Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add 
more. For those of you who may really not know Jeff yet, the 
User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read before you vote.


Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep 
understanding of both the director role and the current OSGeo 
strategic plan. Experienced with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff 
also knows a lot about projects and people. He is always ready to 
help build locally and to represent globally.


Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i 
believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us 
all welcome Jeff back at the Board!



Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


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Sorry for shortening the nomination process in this special case.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Cameron Shorter]

Jeff,

While I agree with others that you have been very enthusiastic toward 
OSGeo ideals, I'm also believe that there are some unanswered questions 
which should be addressed.


In particular, a while back you stepped down from the OSGeo Board 
mid-term, while you were in the position of OSGeo president. I don't 
think a public explanation was provided, but I was aware that there was 
some passionate discussion happening in public email lists at the time.


If you are considering sitting on the board again, I think an 
explanation should be provided.


Regards, Cameron


On 9/10/17 8:48 am, nicolas bozon wrote:


It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of 
Directors election.


Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and 
i would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless 
contributions over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His 
leadership and long involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities 
made him the Winner of the Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add 
more. For those of you who may really not know Jeff yet, the 
User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read before you vote.


Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep 
understanding of both the director role and the current OSGeo 
strategic plan. Experienced with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff 
also knows a lot about projects and people. He is always ready to help 
build locally and to represent globally.


Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i 
believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us 
all welcome Jeff back at the Board!



Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the 
nomination directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids 
Jeff to confirm to himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board 
Nominations page still need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? 
Sorry for shortening the nomination process in this special case.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna And Sanghee Shin

[Suchith Anand]

+ for Jeff, Sanghee and Dirk. 

Best wishes,

Suchith


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+1 Jeff And Sanghee

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


Op 9 okt. 2017 om 00:38 heeft Vicky Vergara 
<vi...@georepublic.de<mailto:vi...@georepublic.de>> het volgende geschreven:

I would like to second this nomination.
I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that Jeff has for 
being in the board.
His energy is contagious.
His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met


Vicky



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
<nicolas.bo...@gmail.com<mailto:nicolas.bo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors 
election.

Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i would 
probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions over the 
years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long involvement in 
the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the Solz Katz Award in 
2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may really not know Jeff yet, 
the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read before you vote.

Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding of 
both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced with 
OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and people. 
He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.

Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i believe 
he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all welcome Jeff 
back at the Board!


Best regards,

Nicolas Bozon


---
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

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I support the nomination of Jeff McKenna and I agree with Nicholas's
Recommendation.

For a long time, he contributed to the spread of FOSS4G Softeware to Asia
and Europe.
Tributaries Everyone in the Japanese community loves Jeff.
He is widely known to the world after contemplating the MS4W. When the
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2017-10-09 7:38 GMT+09:00 Vicky Vergara :

> I would like to second this nomination.
> I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that Jeff has
> for being in the board.
> His energy is contagious.
> His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
> His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met
>
>
> Vicky
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors
>> election.
>>
>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions
>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long
>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may
>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
>> before you vote.
>>
>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding
>> of both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced
>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and
>> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.
>>
>> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
>> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
>> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Nicolas Bozon
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination
>> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm
>> to himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still
>> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
>> nomination process in this special case.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna And Sanghee Shin

[Marc Vloemans]

+1 Jeff And Sanghee

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 9 okt. 2017 om 00:38 heeft Vicky Vergara  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I would like to second this nomination.
> I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that Jeff has for 
> being in the board.
> His energy is contagious.
> His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
> His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met
> 
> 
> Vicky
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors 
>> election.
>> 
>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i 
>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions 
>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long 
>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the 
>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may 
>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read 
>> before you vote.
>> 
>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding of 
>> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced 
>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and 
>> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally. 
>> 
>> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i 
>> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all 
>> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Nicolas Bozon
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination 
>> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm to 
>> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still 
>> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the 
>> nomination process in this special case.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Vicky Vergara]

I would like to second this nomination.
I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that Jeff has
for being in the board.
His energy is contagious.
His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met


Vicky



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
wrote:

>
> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors
> election.
>
> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions
> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long
> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may
> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
> before you vote.
>
> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding
> of both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced
> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and
> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.
>
> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas Bozon
>
>
> ---
> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination
> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm
> to himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still
> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
> nomination process in this special case.
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