Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] URL

2008-08-11 Thread Mateusz Loskot

Paul Ramsey wrote:

project.osgeo.org

During ColabNet days, we had this scheme, but it was dropped when we
moved. Was there a reason for it? I personally feel some love for it,
since it allows things like bringing the Mapserver site into osgeo.org
with a simple URL change.


Paul,

I'm not sure, but AFAIU the current scheme, it look like this:

project.osgeo.org - project website with detailed info about docs, 
downloads, mailing lists, dedicated menu, etc.


osgeo.org/project - short info sheet about a project that is hosted 
externally, under its own domain


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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] URL

2008-08-11 Thread Jason Birch
I don't think that it was specifically dropped, it just wasn't made a
requirement for new projects coming into OSGeo.  

There are project pages on the OSGeo site (like
http://www.osgeo.org/grass - just product info fliers) but from there
the project URL can be anything from external host-based (like
http://grass.osgeo.org/ - which is non-canonical, this seems to be the
same as grass.itc.it) to hosted host-based (http://mapguide.osgeo.org/)
to dedicated domains (like http://www.qgis.org/).

I don't think that projects should be _required_ to use
project.osgeo.org, but I believe that SAC is typically happy to set
these host records up for projects if they want them.

Domain/url changes are never simple if you want to retain your search
engine results, and marketing is an important part of any OS project.
Here is some very good advice to follow when doing so:

http://tinyurl.com/5s2w3q

A bit specific to Google, but it can be extrapolated out to the other
engines too.

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Paul Ramsey
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] URL

project.osgeo.org

During ColabNet days, we had this scheme, but it was dropped when we
moved. Was there a reason for it? I personally feel some love for it,
since it allows things like bringing the Mapserver site into osgeo.org
with a simple URL change.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] URL

2008-08-11 Thread Markus Neteler
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Jason Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't think that it was specifically dropped, it just wasn't made a
 requirement for new projects coming into OSGeo.

 There are project pages on the OSGeo site (like
 http://www.osgeo.org/grass - just product info fliers) but from there
 the project URL can be anything from external host-based (like
 http://grass.osgeo.org/ - which is non-canonical, this seems to be the
 same as grass.itc.it)

Jason,

grass.itc.it and others are the mirror sites of http://grass.osgeo.org/ (which
is the master site).

@All:
I would appreciate to see all projects using the project.osgeo.org
scheme, even only with a redirection. Just to apply a generic scheme
and provide transparency to our users...

Markus
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] URL

2008-08-11 Thread Paul Ramsey
+1

It's a useful mnemonic, and with 304 redirection the search engines
will still provide link karma to links that use the *.osgeo.org
scheme.

P.

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Mateusz Loskot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Markus Neteler wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Jason Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I don't think that it was specifically dropped, it just wasn't made a
 requirement for new projects coming into OSGeo.

 There are project pages on the OSGeo site (like
 http://www.osgeo.org/grass - just product info fliers) but from there
 the project URL can be anything from external host-based (like
 http://grass.osgeo.org/ - which is non-canonical, this seems to be the
 same as grass.itc.it)

 Jason,

 grass.itc.it and others are the mirror sites of http://grass.osgeo.org/
 (which
 is the master site).

 @All:
 I would appreciate to see all projects using the project.osgeo.org
 scheme, even only with a redirection. Just to apply a generic scheme
 and provide transparency to our users...


 +1

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] URL

2008-08-11 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO:


+1



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Markus Neteler wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Jason Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I don't think that it was specifically dropped, it just wasn't made a
 requirement for new projects coming into OSGeo.

 There are project pages on the OSGeo site (like
 http://www.osgeo.org/grass - just product info fliers) but from there
 the project URL can be anything from external host-based (like
 http://grass.osgeo.org/ - which is non-canonical, this seems to be the
 same as grass.itc.it)
 
 Jason,
 
 grass.itc.it and others are the mirror sites of http://grass.osgeo.org/ 
(which
 is the master site).
 
 @All:
 I would appreciate to see all projects using the project.osgeo.org
 scheme, even only with a redirection. Just to apply a generic scheme
 and provide transparency to our users...


+1

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