Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
84tiger wrote: > Thanks Michael - your help and knowledge is much appreciated. I'll > update if I have any more buffering issues. Check that you have "Stream through Proxy" ticked in soundsettings. This often solves buffer issuses. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Receiver - S.M.S.L DAC, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Office: Transporter, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
Thanks Michael - your help and knowledge is much appreciated. I'll update if I have any more buffering issues. 84tiger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
I have a question about LastMix - is there any bias towards pulling tracks
from the local library vs the streaming service if the track is available
in both?
Totally OT here, but yes, LastMix would prefer the local track if
available. But as the matching is done on track title and artist name
only, this often fails due to different spelling, additional information
in the name ("ft. xyz" vs. "(feat. xyz)" etc.). Please continue
discussion in the LastMix thread if needed.
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Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
Today I streamed 125 tracks starting from a 5 track seed playlist created from my local library using my setup with DSTM and LastMix. Over 8 hours of music without any buffering issues. Everything in the log file looks fine to me. Perhaps the upgrade to 7.9.1 solved the problem. I'm back to wondering if short internet dropouts were responsible for the rebuffering issues I was having. I have a question about LastMix. Is there any bias towards adding tracks from the local library vs the streaming service if the track is available in both? I ask because on occasion I have seen the same track (same song, artist, and album) added from Tidal that is available in my local library. I see in the info log for LastMix that there is a "checkTrack" function that looks at the local library for the artist but it doesn't seem to do that check for every track. 84tiger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
84tiger wrote: > Set LastMix to INFO only, or it'll flood your log files... And once > you've reproduced the issue make sure to reset those settings. There's a > > choice for this in that dropdown you mentioned. > > -- > > Michael Ok - I will experiment with this tomorrow. Tidal streamed flac perfectly today on a long playlist that I stopped before DSTM had a chance to add any tracks. Today I streamed 125 tracks starting with a seed playlist of 5 tracks chosen from my local library using my setup with DSTM and LastMix. Over 8 hours of music without any buffering issues. Approximately 60% of the tracks were Tidal flac files. Everything in the server log looks fine to me. Perhaps the upgrade to 7.9.1 was the solution. I'm back to wondering if short internet dropouts are to blame for the rebuffering I was experiencing. I have a question about LastMix - is there any bias towards pulling tracks from the local library vs the streaming service if the track is available in both? I ask because on occasion I will see a track added from Tidal that I have in my local library - same song, artist, and album. I noticed in the info log for lastmix that there is a "checktrack" function that looks at the local library for the artist name but it doesn't appear to do this check for every track. 84tiger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
84tiger wrote: > I run LMS at my home and have a second setup at my vacation property - > at home running Windows 10 on a desktop and at the other place Windows > 10 on a laptop. My LMS settings are pretty much identical on both. I > have experienced the Tidal rebuffering on both setups. I should add I just upgraded my home system to 7.9.1 a couple of nights ago. The laptop version is still running 7.9.0. 84tiger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
mherger wrote: > What platform are you running LMS on anyway? > > -- > > Michael I run LMS at my home and have a second setup at my vacation property - at home running Windows 10 on a desktop and at the other place Windows 10 on a laptop. My LMS settings are pretty much identical on both. I have experienced the Tidal rebuffering on both setups. 84tiger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
What platform are you running LMS on anyway? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
Set LastMix to INFO only, or it'll flood your log files... And once you've reproduced the issue make sure to reset those settings. There's a choice for this in that dropdown you mentioned. -- Michael Ok - I will experiment with this tomorrow. Tidal streamed flac perfectly today on a long playlist that I stopped before DSTM had a chance to add any tracks. 84tiger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
I'm using LastMix - Don't Stop The Music support using Last.fm. I have selected Tidal, DSTM, and LastMix for debug. Set LastMix to INFO only, or it'll flood your log files... And once you've reproduced the issue make sure to reset those settings. There's a choice for this in that dropdown you mentioned. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
mherger wrote: > > Hmmm, I have to test this. I use Don't Stop the Music regularly - > > perhaps that's the culprit. > > That would be very surprising to me. What mixer are you using with DSTM? > > You might want to enable some logging for DSTM and the mixer used to see > > whether their activity coincide with the hiccups. > > -- > > Michael I'm using LastMix - Don't Stop The Music support using Last.fm. I have selected Tidal, DSTM, and LastMix for debug. I'm very much a novice with regards to logging and evaluating the results. Do I need to make a selection on the first item of the logging menu "Please Select a log set"? Thanks. 84tiger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
Hmmm, I have to test this. I use Don't Stop the Music regularly - perhaps that's the culprit. That would be very surprising to me. What mixer are you using with DSTM? You might want to enable some logging for DSTM and the mixer used to see whether their activity coincide with the hiccups. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
bpa wrote: > First thing would be to upgrade to a version of LMS newer than 7.9.0 > which is March 2017 - 2 years old - lots of small bug fixes since then,Copy > that. On it. Thanks Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk doctor_big's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15196 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
doctor_big wrote: > As an aside, tidal seems to buffer more when it's been playing for a > while via Don't Stop the Music. > > Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk Hmmm, I have to test this. I use Don't Stop the Music regularly - perhaps that's the culprit. Today 74 tracks into a 105 song playlist created on Tidal with no issues at all. FWIW, I also updated LMS to 7.9.1 from 7.9.0 last night so perhaps that helped. 84tiger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
First thing would be to upgrade to a version of LMS newer than 7.9.0 which is March 2017 - 2 years old - lots of small bug fixes since then, bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
As an aside, tidal seems to buffer more when it's been playing for a while via Don't Stop the Music. Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk doctor_big's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15196 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
I recently upgraded my Tidal account to flac and I've experienced some of the same problems with Tidal buffering. I'm streaming wireless to an SB3 using proxied streaming. LMS on a Windows 10 desktop running 7.9 hardwired to router. All local flac files stream fine, Radio Paradise flac streams fine and Tidal directly to my laptop works fine. I typically access Tidal through ickStream - not sure if that matters or not. The problem is intermittent - hours of Tidal streaming with no issues at all and then rebuffering. Generally after rebuffering it will jump to the next track on the playlist and stream fine for some period of time. I'm somewhat suspicious of short internet dropouts causing the problems - someone on the forum mentioned the SB3's have a small buffer so even short dropouts could cause streaming issues. Not sure why it would only impact Tidal streams and not other streaming services. I need to install an uptime monitor on my laptop to try to see if there is a correlation between dropouts and streaming problems. FWIW, I have the exact same setup at a vacation property with LMS on a Windows 10 laptop with the same issues. 84tiger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14908 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Tidal Buffering Issue
Hey all, It's been a smooth year for me and my Squeezeboxen, but I'm experiencing a problem now that I can't debug - thought I'd ask the community for assistance. Like it says in the title, Tidal, using the Tidal v1.2 plugin buffers. Not all the time, but more often than not. Once it starts, nothing I can do will resolve it. I have no issues streaming local music, nor do I have an issue with Radio Paradise streaming FLAC files via the RP plugin.. Further, Tidal streaming directly to my laptop on the same network has no issues. I'm running LMS 7.9.0 - 1488878280 on a WHS v1 machine. Taskmgr shows no overt load, nor any more than .0.% networking activity. I'm streaming to a SB Touch that's connected via ethernet powerline adapter. Any thoughts? TIA all! doctor_big's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15196 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
