Re: [slim] Integrate existing squeezeboxes as chromecast players

2018-01-02 Thread drmatt

There is a project to control a squeeze ecosystem from Alexa, but that
still won't route Cast audio to your squeezebox devices. Another
solution is just buy Bluetooth enabled amplifiers for each end point...


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Re: [slim] Integrate existing squeezeboxes as chromecast players

2018-01-02 Thread philippe_44

ModelCitizen wrote: 
> I've used Chromecast audio and TV devices for a while. The audio devices
> are run by both LMS an Google tech. I've now got a Google home and my
> family are becoming so comfortable with voice control that I've ordered
> a couple of minis. Google Home/Assistant poses the biggest threat to my
> Squeezebox stuff yet, and as it becomes more feature rich and easier to
> use it's possible that pressing buttons might start to seem a bit old
> hat. So I'm very interested in being able to control LMS via voice, but
> Philip affirms my belief that this is probably not possible. However, I
> mentioned Google Home here before and a guy replied stating that he was
> developing some voice functionality for Amazon's Alexa and gave the
> impression he might consider extending it to Google tech in future
> so I still have some small hope it might be possible.

What you're asking here is different. It's likely possible to command
LMS players using Google Home. I think the dev of the Alexa version said
he will work on it

bpa wrote: 
> It''s been a while since I looked at Cast protocols but IIRC Cast player
> acts as single page browser running Javascript which are loaded by
> Google servers. Google server only trust recognised players to act as
> cast players (i.e.trust means content won't be copied/saved by player) .
> So to make cast 2 squeeze work would require an computing intermediary
> device which then has to be recognised by Google which is a complicated
> solution and solution is probably dearer than a Chromecast audio device.

Absolutely - you potentially could mimic a CC for the "default receiver'
w/o that "fake" being approved by Google (in fact you need to
re-implement the cast protocol, which is what I did in squeeze2cast, but
need to do the other side) but that will still be limited to cases where
the app running on Android/iOS wants to use the "default receiver". This
is unlikey the case (I think) for Spotify and any app that wants DRM.

So, at the end, many cases where it would not work and little motivation
from me as I'm not a big Android user (only a few devices) and as you
said @bpa, one must the 1st user of what one does for free



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Re: [slim] Integrate existing squeezeboxes as chromecast players

2018-01-02 Thread bpa

minscof wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to get the opposite of squeeze2cast : a cast2squeeze, so I
> can reuse my squeezeboxes from my google home. Are there any people
> interested in this ? Do you think it's the same difficulty to do it as
> squeezecast ?

It''s been a while since I looked at Cast protocols but IIRC Cast player
acts as single page browser running Javascript which are loaded by
Google servers. Google server only trust recognised players to act as
cast players (i.e.trust means content won't be copied/saved by player) .
So to make cast 2 squeeze work would require an computing intermediary
device which then has to be recognised by Google which is a complicated
solution and solution is probably dearer than a Chromecast audio device.



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Re: [slim] Integrate existing squeezeboxes as chromecast players

2018-01-02 Thread ModelCitizen

I've used Chrome cast audio and TV devices for a while. The audio
devices are run by both LMS an Google tech. I've now got a Google home
and my family are becoming so comfortable with voice control that I've
ordered a couple of minis. It's possible Google Home/Assistant poses the
biggest threat to my Squeezebox stuff yet, and as it becomes more
feature rich and easier to use it's possible pressing buttons might
start to seem a bit old hat. So I'm very interested in being able to
control LMS via voice, but Philip affirms my belief that this is
probably not possible. However, I mentioned Google Home here before and
a guy replied stating that he was developing some voice functionality
for Amazon's Alexa and gave the impression he might extend it to Google
tech in future so I still have a small hope it might be possible.



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Re: [slim] Integrate existing squeezeboxes as chromecast players

2018-01-02 Thread philippe_44

minscof wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to get the opposite of squeeze2cast : a cast2squeeze, so I
> can reuse my squeezeboxes from my google home. Are there any people
> interested in this ? Do you think it's the same difficulty to do it as
> squeezecast ?
> 
> Thanks

It cannot work in most cases, unfortunately, due to the way a CC device
works



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ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi
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