Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-29 Thread pablolie
This is the exact same thing as Apple no longer supporting upgrades for a first gen iPad and then those users seem happy enough to upgrade to new models that guarantee forward compatibility. And as great as the Squeezebox ecosystem is, let's not forget that Logitech abandoned it way before

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-28 Thread castalla
I've started a thread as a brief intro for any sonos refugees. I haven't published the url at sonos community (!). Any interested parties should find it. Any other helpful posts (basic level, I suggest) are welcome from community members. LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-28 Thread johnas
I've been lurking some of the discussion as I own a few Sonos boxes. The hurricane of hate is still category 5, might be category 4 in a few days. I see I number of posters saying "they won't buy a locked ecosystem again" and then day they are looking at Bluesound/Bose/Musicast.[emoji2357]

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-28 Thread castalla
The sonos fiasco continues unabated. The main thread has now over 2700 posts (the original thread which was closed reached about 2000) !!! I can't understand the psychology of many users who are off looking for alternative/replacement proprietary systems at huge cost. Bose seems the top

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-25 Thread dolodobendan
castalla wrote: > The sonos devices are upnp/dlna enabled - you can use philippe's > UPNPbridge plugin - there's a configuration profile already set up for > sonos. His airplay plugin doesn't handle airplay2 (as far as I know). > The sonos devices appear as players to LMS. > > You lose none

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-25 Thread castalla
BuddyRich wrote: > Gotta admit I made the move to Sonos about 1 year ago, retiring LMS and > my Pi2 and PiCorePlayer setup. Actually sold a nice Bryston amp and > Audiolabs DAC/Pre combo and bought the Sonos Amp to replace it all. > > I then lost some brain cells and retired my AVR and old

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-25 Thread Paul Webster
BuddyRich wrote: > I am curious - if it ever came to it, how would I use Sonos devices with > LMS (as player endpoints I assume). Some have airplay 1/2 so could be > bridged via that plugin. Are Sonos devices also upnp/dnla compatible as > well? Would that plugin work. Would it be better

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-25 Thread BuddyRich
Gotta admit I made the move to Sonos about 1 year ago, retiring LMS and my Pi2 and PiCorePlayer setup. Actually sold a nice Bryston amp and Audiolabs DAC/Pre combo and bought the Sonos Amp to replace it all. I then lost some brain cells and retired my AVR and old discreet 5.1 setup in my

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread slartibartfast
Apesbrain wrote: > Sonos backtracking: > https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/1/23/21079269/sonos-ceo-patrick-spence-apology-legacy-products-software-updatesNot > really.. Still the same outcome. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread Apesbrain
Sonos backtracking: https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/1/23/21079269/sonos-ceo-patrick-spence-apology-legacy-products-software-updates Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread FatPete
castalla wrote: > A gentle hint I made yesterday about 'other ways to use Sonos devices' > was promptly put down as 'nonsense' by one of these characters. Let me guess... user "jgatie" ;) Whenever I've tried talking about how I use LMS to get around Sonos' 65K track limit and limited 24 bit

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread slartibartfast
castalla wrote: > I could but probably won't!Yup it would probably attract more abuse. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread castalla
slartibartfast wrote: > You could post a link to the relevant thread on here. There only seems > to be one member over there who thinks it is "nonsense". > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I could but probably won't! LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch,

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread castalla
chill wrote: > Well done for spreading the word in such an environment. I saw your > post demonstrating the integration of your Sonos Beam, and as others > have noted, this could be a good time to pick up 'legacy' Sonos speakers > for use with LMS. Can you comment on your experience using

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread slartibartfast
castalla wrote: > 1 out of thousanda! > > Some others have gone off on a hunt for 'alternatives' - most of which > seem to be in github 'cold-storage' and appear amazingly complex to > implement. > Quite bizarre. > > Bluesound and Bose come up quite frequently as replacement systems.You could

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread chill
castalla wrote: > > The Sonos forum and community is a strange and often unwelcoming > phenomenon! There is a substantial number of 'fanboys' who will attack > anyone who has even constructive criticism to offer. A gentle hint I > made yesterday about 'other ways to use Sonos devices' was

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread castalla
slartibartfast wrote: > One of the forum users seemed to be interested. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk 1 out of thousanda! Some others have gone off on a hunt for 'alternatives' - most of which seem to be in github 'cold-storage' and appear amazingly complex to implement. Quite

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread slartibartfast
castalla wrote: > I've done that many times (including yesterday) ... surprisingly little > interest. > > The Sonos forum and community is a strange and often unwelcoming > phenomenon! There is a substantial number of 'fanboys' who will attack > anyone who has even constructive criticism to

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-22 Thread castalla
slartibartfast wrote: > I think someone should comment on the Sonos forum that the legacy > products can still be used with LMS [emoji3] > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I've done that many times (including yesterday) ... surprisingly little interest. The Sonos forum and community is

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-22 Thread slartibartfast
Paul Webster wrote: > The music is the same but the delivery mechanism for Internet-accessible > music has been changing ... e.g. more https, higher bit rate services, > other protocols (eg hls). > LMS is able to hide much of that for our devices but Sonos works in a > different way. > I could

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-22 Thread Paul Webster
The music is the same but the delivery mechanism for Internet-accessible music has been changing ... e.g. more https, higher bit rate services, other protocols (eg hls). LMS is able to hide much of that for our devices but Sonos works in a different way. I could believe that their old devices

Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-22 Thread FredFredrickson
"some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power." Has music somehow dramatically changed in the past few years? Bad day to be a sonos fanatic. 1 Touch 2 Receivers 1 Controller 2 Radios