[ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Ajas Mohammed
Hi, I was wondering what is the ideal memory you prefer on an CF Production server? We are running Intel Xeon CPU E 5450 @ 3.00 GHZ, 4GB RAM. Any suggestions as far as If 4gb memory is good enough or it should be greater than that for a production server? Thanks, Ajas Mohammed /

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Troy Jones
It could be. I'd be interested to know how many sites, what kind of traffic each site brings, that kind of thing. But, if I had 4gb of memory, I'd set my heap size to 1024mb. That is good enough usually unless you have a relatively high-load server environment.

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Ajas Mohammed
About 20 sites and high traffic site. I am not sure how many users though. I guess there is a limit of 4gb memory on 32 bit systems. I noticed lsass.exe is taking 600,000K of memory and jrun.exe is taking 193,604K of memory. So lsass.exe is using thrice as much. Any suggestions? Ajas Mohammed /

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Troy Jones
Are you currently experiencing memory issues? Judging by what you say here, there may be some other issue going on besides what jrun.exe is using. But, if you're not having memory issues and you've got it to spare, I'd say go ahead and bump it up. BTW, what version of CF?

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Ajas Mohammed
We are on CF 7 windows server 2003. We are experiencing frequent slowness and the only option left to us is restart CF service every now and then. Ajas Mohammed / http://ajashadi.blogspot.com We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. No matter what, find a way. Because thats

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Troy Jones
Then, yes, I would definitely set the heap up to 1024mb if it's not there already. That should alleviate most, if not all, of the slowness. On that note, one thing I've run into is that the session scope can become quite obtrusive under load. Sites that carry a lot of session information with

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Ajas Mohammed
Yeah, we are planning to use Fusion Reactor to monitor our apps. In our case, its client variables used throughout i.e. no session variables at all. I will definitely monitor pages that are running slow to see what is going on but knowing hardware setup is also important. So I was just trying to

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Wes Byrd
One thing to note, CF on a 32 bit Windows server can only be allocated 1280MB of RAM... even if the server has 4 GB of RAM... you can only allocate 1280MB. Anything higher than that, the service will not start. This is not true for CF 8.01 running on 64 bit operating systems. Wes From:

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Troy Jones
It won't improve the speed per se, but it will stop the slowness and loss of http response caused by reaching your heap size maximum allowance. It will also free you up from having to watch it so closely and keep you from having to interrupt your client's service while you restart jrun.exe. It

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread axunderwood
One thing to think about along this line of thinking is if you set up CF in a multiserver instance, you can allocate more ram to your heavy hitter by putting it in its own instance, and then group your light sites under another instance and allocate them their own memory as well.

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Ajas Mohammed
yeah, thats a good idea. Unfortunately, we are so far down the road that I doubt the management would not be willing to do separate instances. I love that idea as it saves other sites from issues. Wonder if someone chose that route after having issues with sites. It would take lot of effort and

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread shawn gorrell
32 bit Windows cannot even fully address 4GB of RAM to begin with. The actual addressable amount is somewhere in the 3 1/2 ballpark. By the time you add in the other services allocations on there, it makes sense for the CF allocation to be around what Wes stated. From: Ajas Mohammed

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Teddy R. Payne
Google is your friend: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=maximum+coldfusion+heap+size+windows+32 Teddy R. Payne, ACCFD Google Talk - teddyrpa...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, shawn gorrell chees...@yahoo.com wrote: 32 bit Windows cannot even fully address 4GB of RAM to begin with. The

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Ajas Mohammed
So, everyone here is pretty much on 64 bit systems? Just curious. Thanks Teddy for the link. Ajas Mohammed / http://ajashadi.blogspot.com We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. You can't improve what you don't

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
Wow, guys, I would offer significant caution about a lot of the assertions here. It's NOT always true that increasing memory will improve performance. Not at all. Indeed, there are times when increasing the heap could cause MORE problems (and even just raising it from 512 to 768). It's too much

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Derrick Peavy
Charlie: I have seen those errors before and would in the past, adjust both java Vm settings and heap size in the BD admin console, as well as MySQL settings. I did that over many months a few years back. Using the same system today. The settings I use now yielded the best results - no

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
To be clear, I wasn't referring at all to anything about you or setup Derrick. :-) Still, as you're saying, yes there are also those kinds of issues that can cause problems as well. Good that you've isolated a lot of them. That said, as for your moving to BD, I will argue that when some have

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Derrick Peavy
I for one appreciate your efforts! OT - was asked yesterday during a bus dev call what is your site built in/with that old saw. When I said cold fusion they chuckled. This from a 26 year old. No matter. He asked what other sites are built with CF. That old saw. Used to be a list but I am